0:00:01.063,0:00:04.700 I'm not quite sure whether[br]I really want to see a snare drum 0:00:04.724,0:00:06.796 at nine o'clock or so in the morning. 0:00:06.820,0:00:08.218 (Laughter) 0:00:08.242,0:00:12.312 But anyway, it's just great[br]to see such a full theater, 0:00:12.336,0:00:15.621 and really, I must thank[br]Herbie Hancock and his colleagues 0:00:15.645,0:00:18.149 for such a great presentation. 0:00:18.173,0:00:21.244 (Applause) 0:00:21.268,0:00:23.454 One of the interesting things, of course, 0:00:23.478,0:00:30.431 is the combination of that raw hand[br]on the instrument and technology, 0:00:30.911,0:00:35.551 and what he said about listening[br]to our young people. 0:00:35.575,0:00:39.273 Of course, my job is all about listening. 0:00:40.094,0:00:46.039 And my aim, really,[br]is to teach the world to listen. 0:00:46.063,0:00:49.648 That's my only real aim in life. 0:00:50.394,0:00:56.531 And it sounds quite simple,[br]but actually, it's quite a big, big job. 0:00:56.555,0:01:01.825 Because you know, when you look[br]at a piece of music, for example, 0:01:01.849,0:01:05.308 if I just open my little motorbike bag -- 0:01:06.647,0:01:09.655 we have here, hopefully, 0:01:09.679,0:01:15.304 a piece of music that is full[br]of little black dots on the page. 0:01:16.494,0:01:20.260 And, you know, we open it up ... 0:01:22.732,0:01:24.006 And I read the music. 0:01:24.554,0:01:28.268 So technically, I can actually read this. 0:01:29.000,0:01:32.976 I will follow the instructions,[br]the tempo markings, the dynamics. 0:01:33.586,0:01:36.771 I will do exactly as I'm told. 0:01:37.717,0:01:41.109 And so therefore, because time is short, 0:01:41.133,0:01:48.032 if I just played you, literally,[br]the first, maybe, two lines or so -- 0:01:48.738,0:01:52.234 It's very straightforward; there's nothing[br]too difficult about the piece. 0:01:52.258,0:01:55.566 But here, I'm being told[br]that the piece of music is very quick. 0:01:56.550,0:01:59.556 I'm being told where to play on the drum. 0:01:59.580,0:02:02.496 I'm being told which part[br]of the stick to use. 0:02:03.847,0:02:06.445 And I'm being told the dynamic. 0:02:06.469,0:02:11.070 And I'm also being told[br]that the drum is without snares. 0:02:11.094,0:02:14.106 Snares on, snares off. 0:02:14.130,0:02:19.982 So therefore, if I translate[br]this piece of music, 0:02:20.006,0:02:22.006 we have this idea. 0:02:23.074,0:02:25.278 (Drum sounds) 0:02:50.823,0:02:53.242 (Drum sounds end) 0:02:53.266,0:02:54.533 And so on. 0:02:54.557,0:02:58.039 My career would probably last[br]about five years. 0:02:58.063,0:02:59.067 (Laughter) 0:02:59.091,0:03:03.614 However, what I have to do as a musician 0:03:03.638,0:03:07.746 is do everything that is not on the music; 0:03:07.770,0:03:12.774 everything that there isn't time[br]to learn from a teacher, 0:03:12.798,0:03:16.358 or to talk about, even, from a teacher. 0:03:16.382,0:03:21.235 But it's the things you notice when[br]you're not actually with your instrument 0:03:21.259,0:03:26.506 that, in fact, become so interesting,[br]and that you want to explore 0:03:26.530,0:03:29.998 through this tiny, tiny surface of a drum. 0:03:30.022,0:03:32.723 So there, we experience the translation. 0:03:32.747,0:03:36.217 Now we'll experience the interpretation. 0:03:37.082,0:03:38.852 (Drum sounds) 0:04:18.976,0:04:20.976 (Drum sounds end) 0:04:22.513,0:04:29.513 (Applause) 0:04:30.058,0:04:32.769 Now my career may last a little longer. 0:04:32.793,0:04:34.120 (Laughter) 0:04:34.144,0:04:37.429 But in a way, you know,[br]it's the same if I look at you 0:04:37.453,0:04:41.793 and I see a nice, bright young lady[br]with a pink top on. 0:04:41.817,0:04:45.235 I see that you're clutching[br]a teddy bear, etc., etc. 0:04:45.259,0:04:49.817 So I get a basic idea[br]as to what you might be about, 0:04:49.841,0:04:54.209 what you might like, what you might do[br]as a profession, etc., etc. 0:04:54.642,0:05:01.003 However, that's just the initial idea[br]I may have that we all get 0:05:01.027,0:05:04.609 when we actually look[br]and we try to interpret. 0:05:04.633,0:05:06.933 But actually it's so unbelievably shallow. 0:05:06.957,0:05:09.862 In the same way, I look[br]at the music; I get a basic idea; 0:05:09.886,0:05:14.180 I wonder what technically might be hard,[br]or, you know, what I want to do. 0:05:14.204,0:05:15.694 Just the basic feeling. 0:05:15.718,0:05:18.381 However, that is simply not enough. 0:05:18.405,0:05:22.719 And I think what Herbie said:[br]please listen, listen. 0:05:22.743,0:05:26.379 We have to listen[br]to ourselves, first of all. 0:05:26.403,0:05:30.148 If I play, for example,[br]holding the stick -- 0:05:30.172,0:05:33.225 where literally I do not let go[br]of the stick -- 0:05:33.249,0:05:35.814 (Drum sound) 0:05:35.838,0:05:39.655 you'll experience quite a lot[br]of shock coming up through the arm. 0:05:39.679,0:05:42.004 And you feel really quite --[br]believe it or not -- 0:05:42.028,0:05:45.271 detached from the instrument[br]and from the stick, 0:05:45.295,0:05:49.417 even though I'm actually holding[br]the stick quite tightly. 0:05:49.441,0:05:50.866 (Drum sound) 0:05:50.890,0:05:54.847 By holding it tightly,[br]I feel strangely more detached. 0:05:54.871,0:05:56.588 If I just simply let go 0:05:56.612,0:06:01.807 and allow my hand, my arm,[br]to be more of a support system, 0:06:01.831,0:06:03.029 suddenly -- 0:06:03.053,0:06:05.067 (Drum sound) 0:06:05.091,0:06:08.548 I have more dynamic with less effort. 0:06:08.572,0:06:09.747 Much more -- 0:06:09.771,0:06:11.522 (Drum sound) 0:06:11.546,0:06:14.479 and I just feel, at last,[br]one with the stick 0:06:14.503,0:06:16.162 and one with the drum. 0:06:16.186,0:06:18.299 And I'm doing far, far less. 0:06:18.323,0:06:21.735 So in the same way that I need[br]time with this instrument, 0:06:21.759,0:06:27.086 I need time with people[br]in order to interpret them. 0:06:27.110,0:06:29.798 Not just translate them,[br]but interpret them. 0:06:29.822,0:06:36.009 If, for example, I play just[br]a few bars of a piece of music 0:06:37.289,0:06:42.679 for which I think of myself[br]as a technician -- 0:06:42.703,0:06:46.959 that is, someone who is basically[br]a percussion player -- 0:06:46.983,0:06:49.229 (Marimba sounds) 0:06:57.973,0:06:59.870 (Marimba sounds end) 0:06:59.894,0:07:03.082 And so on, if I think of myself[br]as a musician -- 0:07:03.106,0:07:05.174 (Marimba sounds) 0:07:22.867,0:07:24.910 (Marimba sounds end) 0:07:24.934,0:07:26.108 And so on. 0:07:26.132,0:07:29.994 There is a little bit of a difference[br]there that is worth just -- 0:07:30.018,0:07:32.569 (Applause) 0:07:32.593,0:07:33.976 thinking about. 0:07:34.000,0:07:37.909 And I remember when I was 12 years old, 0:07:37.933,0:07:41.051 and I started playing timpani[br]and percussion, 0:07:41.075,0:07:43.505 and my teacher said, 0:07:43.529,0:07:49.182 "Well, how are we going to do this?[br]You know, music is about listening." 0:07:49.206,0:07:53.877 And I said, "Yes, I agree with that,[br]so what's the problem?" 0:07:53.901,0:07:56.320 And he said, "Well,[br]how are you going to hear this? 0:07:56.344,0:07:57.902 How are you going to hear that?" 0:07:57.926,0:08:00.008 And I said, "Well, how do you hear it?" 0:08:00.507,0:08:03.976 He said, "Well, I think[br]I hear it through here." 0:08:04.000,0:08:09.374 And I said, "Well, I think I do too,[br]but I also hear it through my hands, 0:08:09.398,0:08:12.937 through my arms, cheekbones, my scalp, 0:08:12.961,0:08:15.978 my tummy, my chest, my legs and so on." 0:08:16.002,0:08:20.834 And so we began our lessons[br]every single time 0:08:20.858,0:08:24.800 tuning drums, in particular,[br]the kettle drums, or timpani 0:08:24.824,0:08:29.837 to such a narrow pitch interval,[br]so something like -- 0:08:30.606,0:08:33.218 (Marimba sounds) 0:08:35.040,0:08:36.213 that of a difference. 0:08:36.237,0:08:37.439 Then gradually: 0:08:37.463,0:08:38.620 (Marimba sounds) 0:08:38.644,0:08:39.824 And gradually: 0:08:39.848,0:08:41.639 (Marimba sounds) 0:08:41.663,0:08:45.722 And it's amazing that when you do[br]open your body up, 0:08:45.746,0:08:49.721 and open your hand up to allow[br]the vibration to come through, 0:08:49.745,0:08:52.068 that in fact the tiny, tiny difference -- 0:08:52.092,0:08:54.151 (Marimba sounds) 0:08:54.175,0:09:00.257 can be felt with just the tiniest[br]part of your finger, there. 0:09:00.281,0:09:03.147 And so what we would do[br]is that I would put my hands 0:09:03.171,0:09:05.486 on the wall of the music room, 0:09:05.510,0:09:10.704 and together, we would "listen"[br]to the sounds of the instruments, 0:09:10.728,0:09:14.564 and really try to connect[br]with those sounds 0:09:14.588,0:09:18.981 far, far more broadly[br]than simply depending on the ear. 0:09:19.005,0:09:23.648 Because of course, the ear[br]is subject to all sorts of things. 0:09:23.672,0:09:26.641 The room we happen to be in,[br]the amplification, 0:09:26.665,0:09:29.400 the quality of the instrument,[br]the type of sticks -- 0:09:29.424,0:09:31.505 (Marimba sounds) 0:09:35.844,0:09:37.791 (Marimba sounds end) 0:09:37.815,0:09:39.634 Etc., etc., they're all different. 0:09:39.658,0:09:41.658 (Marimba sounds) 0:09:44.117,0:09:46.214 (Marimba sounds end) 0:09:46.238,0:09:50.823 Same amount of weight,[br]but different sound colors. 0:09:50.847,0:09:53.751 And that's basically what we are;[br]we're just human beings, 0:09:53.775,0:09:56.940 but we all have our own[br]little sound colors, as it were, 0:09:56.964,0:10:00.613 that make up these extraordinary[br]personalities and characters 0:10:00.637,0:10:02.510 and interests and things. 0:10:02.534,0:10:05.534 And as I grew older, I then auditioned 0:10:05.558,0:10:07.976 for the Royal Academy of Music in London, 0:10:08.000,0:10:12.274 and they said, "Well, no, we won't[br]accept you, because we haven't a clue, 0:10:12.298,0:10:16.951 you know, of the future[br]of a so-called 'deaf musician.'" 0:10:16.975,0:10:21.502 And I just couldn't quite accept that. 0:10:21.526,0:10:28.094 And so therefore, I said to them,[br]"Well, look, if you refuse -- 0:10:28.118,0:10:31.443 if you refuse me through those reasons, 0:10:31.467,0:10:36.235 as opposed to the ability to perform 0:10:36.259,0:10:42.976 and to understand and love[br]the art of creating sound -- 0:10:43.000,0:10:49.239 then we have to think very, very hard[br]about the people you do actually accept." 0:10:49.263,0:10:53.521 And as a result,[br]once we got over a little hurdle, 0:10:53.545,0:10:55.554 and having to audition twice, 0:10:55.578,0:10:57.793 they accepted me. 0:10:57.817,0:10:59.183 And not only that, 0:10:59.207,0:11:04.850 what had happened was that it changed[br]the whole role of the music institutions 0:11:04.874,0:11:06.826 throughout the United Kingdom. 0:11:06.850,0:11:10.798 Under no circumstances were they to refuse 0:11:10.822,0:11:14.737 any application whatsoever 0:11:14.761,0:11:18.269 on the basis of whether someone[br]had no arms, no legs -- 0:11:18.293,0:11:22.821 they could still perhaps play a wind[br]instrument if it was supported on a stand. 0:11:23.368,0:11:29.623 No circumstances at all[br]were used to refuse any entry. 0:11:29.647,0:11:34.485 And every single entry[br]had to be listened to, experienced, 0:11:34.509,0:11:37.066 and then, based on the musical ability, 0:11:37.090,0:11:42.342 then that person[br]could either enter or not. 0:11:42.366,0:11:45.520 And so therefore, this in turn meant 0:11:45.544,0:11:49.181 that there was an extremely[br]interesting bunch of students 0:11:49.205,0:11:52.555 who arrived in these various[br]music institutions, 0:11:52.579,0:11:57.068 and I have to say, many of them now[br]in the professional orchestras 0:11:57.092,0:11:59.071 throughout the world. 0:11:59.095,0:12:01.781 The interesting thing[br]about this as well, though -- 0:12:01.805,0:12:05.976 (Applause) 0:12:06.000,0:12:12.790 is quite simply that not only were people[br]connected with sound -- 0:12:12.814,0:12:14.325 which is basically all of us -- 0:12:14.349,0:12:19.271 we well know that music[br]really is our daily medicine. 0:12:19.295,0:12:21.976 I say "music," but actually[br]I mean "sound." 0:12:22.000,0:12:26.625 Because some of the extraordinary[br]things I've experienced as a musician -- 0:12:26.649,0:12:30.788 when you may have a 15-year-old lad 0:12:30.812,0:12:35.541 who has got the most[br]incredible challenges, 0:12:35.565,0:12:38.302 who may not be able[br]to control his movements, 0:12:38.326,0:12:41.339 who may be deaf,[br]who may be blind, etc., etc. -- 0:12:41.363,0:12:47.393 suddenly, if that young lad[br]sits close to this instrument, 0:12:47.417,0:12:50.228 and perhaps even lies[br]underneath the marimba, 0:12:50.252,0:12:55.976 and you play something[br]that's so incredibly organ-like, almost -- 0:12:56.000,0:12:58.860 I don't really have[br]the right sticks, perhaps -- 0:12:58.884,0:13:02.707 but something like this --[br]let me change -- 0:13:04.935,0:13:07.473 (Soft marimba sounds) 0:13:50.167,0:13:52.802 (Soft marimba sounds end) 0:13:52.826,0:13:55.708 Something that's so unbelievably simple -- 0:13:55.732,0:14:00.052 but he would be experiencing[br]something that I wouldn't be, 0:14:00.076,0:14:02.494 because I'm on top of the sound. 0:14:02.518,0:14:04.784 I have the sound coming this way. 0:14:04.808,0:14:08.366 He would have the sound[br]coming through the resonators. 0:14:08.390,0:14:11.525 If there were no resonators[br]on here, we would have: 0:14:11.894,0:14:16.967 (Marimba sounds) 0:14:18.106,0:14:20.425 So he would have a fullness of sound 0:14:20.449,0:14:23.447 that those of you in the front few rows[br]wouldn't experience, 0:14:23.471,0:14:26.616 those of you in the back few rows[br]wouldn't experience, either. 0:14:26.640,0:14:29.733 Every single one of us,[br]depending on where we're sitting, 0:14:29.757,0:14:33.534 will experience this sound[br]quite, quite differently. 0:14:33.558,0:14:36.428 And of course, being[br]the participator of the sound, 0:14:36.452,0:14:41.278 and that is, starting from the idea[br]of what type of sound 0:14:41.302,0:14:44.587 I want to produce,[br]for example, this sound: 0:14:45.000,0:14:47.000 (No sound) 0:14:51.171,0:14:52.335 Can you hear anything? 0:14:54.108,0:14:56.854 Exactly -- because[br]I'm not even touching it. 0:14:56.878,0:14:58.403 (Laughter) 0:14:58.427,0:15:03.054 But yet, we get the sensation[br]of something happening. 0:15:03.078,0:15:05.637 In the same way[br]that when I see a tree moves, 0:15:05.661,0:15:09.879 then I imagine that tree[br]making a rustling sound. 0:15:09.903,0:15:11.129 Do you see what I mean? 0:15:11.153,0:15:15.270 Whatever the eye sees,[br]then there's always sound happening. 0:15:15.294,0:15:19.489 So there's always, always that huge -- 0:15:19.513,0:15:23.799 I mean, just this kaleidoscope[br]of things to draw from. 0:15:23.823,0:15:29.792 So all of my performances[br]are based on entirely what I experience, 0:15:29.816,0:15:32.312 and not by learning a piece of music, 0:15:32.336,0:15:34.538 putting on someone else's[br]interpretation of it, 0:15:34.562,0:15:37.741 buying all the CDs possible[br]of that particular piece of music, 0:15:37.765,0:15:39.131 and so on and so forth, 0:15:39.155,0:15:45.507 because that isn't giving me enough[br]of something that is so raw and so basic, 0:15:45.531,0:15:50.658 and something that I can fully[br]experience the journey of. 0:15:50.682,0:15:54.909 So it may be that, in certain halls, 0:15:54.933,0:15:59.701 this dynamic may well work. 0:16:00.169,0:16:02.461 (Soft marimba sounds) 0:16:07.370,0:16:09.372 (Soft marimba sounds end) 0:16:09.396,0:16:10.928 It may be that in other halls, 0:16:10.952,0:16:14.187 they're simply not going[br]to experience that at all, 0:16:14.211,0:16:18.419 and so therefore, my level of soft,[br]gentle playing may have to be -- 0:16:18.443,0:16:21.602 (Marimba sounds) 0:16:40.470,0:16:42.471 (Marimba sounds end) 0:16:42.495,0:16:43.837 Do you see what I mean? 0:16:43.861,0:16:50.119 So, because of this explosion[br]in access to sound, 0:16:50.143,0:16:52.654 especially through the Deaf community, 0:16:52.678,0:16:57.105 this has not only affected[br]how music institutions, 0:16:57.129,0:17:03.898 how schools for the deaf treat sound,[br]and not just as a means of therapy -- 0:17:03.922,0:17:06.535 although, of course,[br]being a participator of music, 0:17:06.559,0:17:09.157 that definitely is the case as well -- 0:17:09.181,0:17:14.280 but it's meant that acousticians[br]have had to really think 0:17:14.304,0:17:18.326 about the types of halls[br]they put together. 0:17:18.350,0:17:20.814 There are so few halls in this world 0:17:20.838,0:17:26.155 that actually have[br]very good acoustics, dare I say. 0:17:26.179,0:17:31.764 But by that I mean, where you can[br]absolutely do anything you imagine. 0:17:31.788,0:17:36.606 The tiniest, softest, softest sound[br]to something that is so broad, 0:17:36.630,0:17:39.352 so huge, so incredible. 0:17:39.376,0:17:40.770 There's always something: 0:17:40.794,0:17:43.298 it may sound good up there,[br]may not be so good there; 0:17:43.322,0:17:45.465 it may be great there,[br]but terrible up there; 0:17:45.489,0:17:49.673 maybe terrible over there,[br]but not too bad there, etc., etc. 0:17:49.697,0:17:54.119 So to find an actual hall is incredible -- 0:17:54.143,0:17:58.219 for which you can play[br]exactly what you imagine, 0:17:58.243,0:18:01.350 without it being cosmetically enhanced. 0:18:01.374,0:18:06.431 So therefore, acousticians[br]are actually in conversation 0:18:06.455,0:18:09.750 with people who are hearing impaired, 0:18:09.774,0:18:14.625 and who are participators of sound. 0:18:14.649,0:18:16.476 And this is quite interesting. 0:18:16.500,0:18:20.487 I cannot give you any detail 0:18:20.511,0:18:24.248 as far as what is actually happening[br]with those halls, 0:18:24.272,0:18:28.380 but it's just the fact[br]that they are going to a group of people 0:18:28.404,0:18:32.350 for whom so many years, we've been saying, 0:18:32.374,0:18:35.715 "Well, how on earth can they experience[br]music? They're deaf." 0:18:35.739,0:18:39.054 We go like that, and we imagine[br]that's what deafness is about. 0:18:39.078,0:18:42.214 Or we go like that, and we imagine[br]that's what blindness is about. 0:18:42.238,0:18:46.060 If we see someone in a wheelchair,[br]we assume they cannot walk. 0:18:46.084,0:18:49.608 It may be that they can walk[br]three, four, five steps. 0:18:49.632,0:18:52.483 That, to them, means they can walk. 0:18:53.594,0:18:56.633 In a year's time,[br]it could be two extra steps. 0:18:57.299,0:19:00.052 In another year's time, three extra steps. 0:19:00.076,0:19:04.779 Those are hugely important[br]aspects to think about. 0:19:04.803,0:19:08.976 So when we do listen to each other, 0:19:09.000,0:19:12.689 it's unbelievably important for us 0:19:12.713,0:19:17.331 to really test our listening skills, 0:19:17.355,0:19:20.827 to really use our bodies[br]as a resonating chamber, 0:19:20.851,0:19:22.500 to stop the judgment. 0:19:22.524,0:19:26.395 For me, as a musician who deals[br]with 99 percent of new music, 0:19:26.419,0:19:28.343 it's very easy for me to say, 0:19:28.367,0:19:31.968 "Oh yes, I like that piece.[br]No, I don't like that piece," and so on. 0:19:31.992,0:19:37.121 And I just find that I have to give[br]those pieces of music real time. 0:19:37.145,0:19:40.418 It may be that the chemistry[br]isn't quite right between myself 0:19:40.442,0:19:42.219 and that particular piece of music, 0:19:42.243,0:19:46.725 but that doesn't mean I have the right[br]to say it's a bad piece of music. 0:19:47.077,0:19:52.177 And you know, one of the great things[br]about being a musician 0:19:52.201,0:19:55.757 is that it is so unbelievably fluid. 0:19:55.781,0:20:00.185 So there are no rules, no right,[br]no wrong, this way, that way. 0:20:00.209,0:20:05.037 If I asked you to clap --[br]maybe I can do this. 0:20:05.061,0:20:11.435 If I can just say, "Please clap[br]and create the sound of thunder." 0:20:11.459,0:20:14.758 I'm assuming we've all[br]experienced thunder. 0:20:14.782,0:20:16.364 Now, I don't mean just the sound; 0:20:16.388,0:20:21.305 I mean really listen[br]to that thunder within yourselves. 0:20:21.329,0:20:23.787 And please try to create that[br]through your clapping. 0:20:23.811,0:20:25.760 Try, just -- please try. 0:20:25.784,0:20:29.053 (Loud clapping sounds) 0:20:33.561,0:20:34.711 (Clapping ends) 0:20:35.103,0:20:36.461 Snow. 0:20:36.485,0:20:38.621 (Laughter) 0:20:38.645,0:20:39.813 Snow. 0:20:39.837,0:20:42.073 (Soft clapping sounds) 0:20:42.097,0:20:43.642 Have you ever heard snow? 0:20:43.666,0:20:44.817 Audience: No. 0:20:44.841,0:20:46.999 Evelyn Glennie: Well, then, stop clapping. 0:20:47.023,0:20:48.422 (Laughter) 0:20:48.446,0:20:51.651 Try again. Try again: snow. 0:20:52.016,0:20:55.060 (No sound) 0:20:55.822,0:20:57.426 See, you're awake. 0:20:58.095,0:20:59.342 Rain. 0:20:59.714,0:21:01.403 (Light clapping sounds) 0:21:01.887,0:21:03.340 EG: (Laughs) 0:21:04.354,0:21:07.084 Not bad. Not bad. 0:21:07.108,0:21:11.864 The interesting thing here, though,[br]is that I asked a group of kids 0:21:11.888,0:21:13.591 not so long ago 0:21:13.615,0:21:15.780 exactly the same question. 0:21:15.804,0:21:19.183 Now -- great imagination,[br]thank you very much. 0:21:19.207,0:21:22.029 However, not one of you got out[br]of your seats to think, 0:21:22.053,0:21:23.720 "Right! How can I clap? 0:21:23.744,0:21:24.966 OK, maybe: 0:21:24.990,0:21:27.499 (Clapping sounds) 0:21:27.523,0:21:30.355 Maybe I can use my jewelry[br]to create extra sounds. 0:21:30.379,0:21:34.415 Maybe I can use the other parts[br]of my body to create extra sounds." 0:21:34.439,0:21:39.832 Not a single one of you thought[br]about clapping in a slightly different way 0:21:39.856,0:21:42.974 other than sitting in your seats[br]there and using two hands. 0:21:42.998,0:21:45.143 In the same way, when we listen to music, 0:21:45.167,0:21:49.108 we assume that it's all being[br]fed through here. 0:21:49.132,0:21:51.676 This is how we experience music. 0:21:51.700,0:21:53.371 Of course, it's not. 0:21:53.395,0:21:56.218 We experience thunder, thunder, thunder. 0:21:56.242,0:21:57.439 Think, think, think. 0:21:57.463,0:21:59.353 Listen, listen, listen. 0:21:59.852,0:22:03.599 Now, what can we do with thunder? 0:22:04.266,0:22:09.660 I remember my teacher, when I first[br]started, my very first lesson, 0:22:09.684,0:22:13.069 I was all prepared[br]with sticks, ready to go. 0:22:13.093,0:22:17.889 And instead of him saying,[br]"OK, Evelyn, please, feet slightly apart, 0:22:17.913,0:22:23.753 arms at a more or less 90-degree angle,[br]sticks in a more or less V shape, 0:22:23.777,0:22:26.821 keep this amount of space here, etc. 0:22:26.845,0:22:29.399 Please keep your back straight,[br]etc., etc., etc." -- 0:22:29.423,0:22:33.587 where I was just probably going to end up[br]absolutely rigid, frozen, 0:22:33.611,0:22:35.620 and I would not be able to strike the drum 0:22:35.644,0:22:37.864 because I was thinking[br]of so many other things, 0:22:37.888,0:22:40.451 he said, "Evelyn, take this drum[br]away for seven days, 0:22:40.475,0:22:42.260 and I'll see you next week." 0:22:42.284,0:22:44.689 So -- heavens! What was I to do? 0:22:44.713,0:22:47.191 I no longer required the sticks. 0:22:47.215,0:22:49.363 I wasn't allowed to have these sticks. 0:22:49.387,0:22:53.024 I had to basically look[br]at this particular drum, 0:22:53.048,0:22:54.721 see how it was made, 0:22:54.745,0:22:57.761 what these little lugs did,[br]what the snares did. 0:22:57.785,0:23:00.737 Turned it upside down,[br]experimented with the shell. 0:23:00.761,0:23:02.474 (Drum sounds) 0:23:02.498,0:23:03.844 Experimented with the head. 0:23:03.868,0:23:05.330 (Drum sounds) 0:23:05.354,0:23:07.134 Experimented with my body. 0:23:07.158,0:23:08.952 (Drum sounds) 0:23:08.976,0:23:10.800 Experimented with jewelry. 0:23:10.824,0:23:12.912 Experimented with all sorts of things. 0:23:12.936,0:23:16.315 (Drum sounds) 0:23:19.356,0:23:21.832 (Drum sounds end) 0:23:23.182,0:23:26.382 And of course, I returned[br]with all sorts of bruises. 0:23:26.406,0:23:27.657 (Laughter) 0:23:27.681,0:23:31.041 But nevertheless, it was such[br]an unbelievable experience, 0:23:31.065,0:23:35.767 because where on earth are you going[br]to experience that in a piece of music? 0:23:35.791,0:23:39.777 Where on earth are you going[br]to experience that in a study book? 0:23:39.801,0:23:43.506 So we never, ever dealt[br]with actual study books. 0:23:43.530,0:23:46.186 So for example,[br]one of the things that we learn 0:23:46.210,0:23:50.894 when we are dealing[br]with being a percussion player 0:23:50.918,0:23:52.277 as opposed to a musician, 0:23:52.301,0:23:55.906 is basically, straightforward[br]single-stroke rolls. 0:23:55.930,0:23:59.554 (Drum sounds) 0:23:59.578,0:24:01.688 Like that, and then[br]we get a little faster -- 0:24:01.712,0:24:02.880 (Drum sounds) 0:24:02.904,0:24:04.100 and a little faster -- 0:24:04.124,0:24:05.302 (Drum sounds) 0:24:05.326,0:24:07.808 and a little faster,[br]and so on and so forth. 0:24:07.832,0:24:09.271 What does this piece require? 0:24:09.295,0:24:10.670 Single-stroke rolls. 0:24:10.694,0:24:13.893 (Drum sound) 0:24:13.917,0:24:17.379 So why can't I then do that[br]whilst learning a piece of music? 0:24:17.403,0:24:20.221 And that's exactly what he did. 0:24:20.245,0:24:25.595 And interestingly, the older I became,[br]and when I became a full-time student 0:24:25.619,0:24:30.877 at a so-called "music institution,"[br]all of that went out of the window. 0:24:30.901,0:24:33.642 We had to study from study books. 0:24:33.666,0:24:37.767 And constantly, the question, "Well, why?[br]Why? What is this relating to? 0:24:37.791,0:24:39.391 I need to play a piece of music." 0:24:39.415,0:24:41.172 "Well, this will help your control." 0:24:41.196,0:24:43.755 "Well, how? Why do I need to learn that? 0:24:43.779,0:24:46.284 I need to relate it to a piece of music. 0:24:46.308,0:24:48.870 You know, I need to say something. 0:24:48.894,0:24:51.000 Why am I practicing paradiddles? 0:24:51.024,0:24:55.006 (Drum sounds) 0:24:55.030,0:24:58.897 Is it just literally for control,[br]for hand-stick control? 0:24:58.921,0:25:00.305 Why am I doing that? 0:25:00.329,0:25:02.729 I need to have the reason, 0:25:02.753,0:25:08.334 and the reason has to be by saying[br]something through the music." 0:25:08.358,0:25:12.851 And by saying something through music,[br]which basically is sound, 0:25:12.875,0:25:17.247 we then can reach all sorts[br]of things to all sorts of people. 0:25:17.271,0:25:21.520 But I don't want to take responsibility[br]of your emotional baggage. 0:25:21.544,0:25:23.768 That's up to you,[br]when you walk through a hall, 0:25:23.792,0:25:29.126 because that then determines[br]what and how we listen to certain things. 0:25:29.150,0:25:34.431 I may feel sorrowful, or happy,[br]or exhilarated, or angry 0:25:34.455,0:25:36.243 when I play certain pieces of music, 0:25:36.267,0:25:41.144 but I'm not necessarily wanting you[br]to feel exactly the same thing. 0:25:41.168,0:25:44.272 So please, the next time[br]you go to a concert, 0:25:44.296,0:25:47.941 just allow your body to open up, 0:25:47.965,0:25:51.047 allow your body to be[br]this resonating chamber. 0:25:51.071,0:25:54.348 Be aware that you're not going[br]to experience the same thing 0:25:54.372,0:25:56.078 as the performer is. 0:25:56.102,0:25:59.842 The performer is in the worst possible[br]position for the actual sound, 0:25:59.866,0:26:03.422 because they're hearing[br]the contact of the stick -- 0:26:03.446,0:26:04.958 (Drum sound) 0:26:04.982,0:26:07.851 on the drum, or the mallet[br]on the bit of wood, 0:26:07.875,0:26:10.062 or the bow on the string, etc., 0:26:10.086,0:26:14.224 or the breath that's creating[br]the sound from wind and brass. 0:26:14.248,0:26:16.769 They're experiencing that rawness there. 0:26:16.793,0:26:20.641 But yet they're experiencing[br]something so unbelievably pure, 0:26:20.665,0:26:24.495 which is before the sound[br]is actually happening. 0:26:24.519,0:26:31.075 Please take note of the life of the sound[br]after the actual initial strike, 0:26:31.099,0:26:33.504 or breath, is being pulled. 0:26:33.528,0:26:37.776 Just experience the whole[br]journey of that sound 0:26:37.800,0:26:41.398 in the same way that I wished[br]I'd experienced the whole journey 0:26:41.422,0:26:45.851 of this particular conference,[br]rather than just arriving last night. 0:26:45.875,0:26:50.532 But I hope maybe we can share[br]one or two things as the day progresses. 0:26:50.556,0:26:53.295 But thank you very much for having me! 0:26:53.319,0:26:56.553 (Applause) 0:26:59.262,0:27:00.960 (Applause ends) 0:27:12.957,0:27:15.979 (Music) 0:31:37.631,0:31:39.901 (Music ends) 0:31:43.244,0:31:50.244 (Applause)