[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not quite sure whether I really want to see Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.00,0:00:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a snare drum at nine o'clock or so in the morning. Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.00,0:00:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But anyway, it's just great to see such a full theater, Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.00,0:00:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really I must thank Herbie Hancock Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.00,0:00:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his colleagues for such a great presentation. (Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.00,0:00:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the interesting things, Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.00,0:00:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course, is the combination of that raw hand on the instrument Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.00,0:00:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and technology, and of course what he said about listening to our young people. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.00,0:00:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, my job is all about listening, Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.00,0:00:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my aim, really, is to teach the world to listen. Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.00,0:00:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's my only real aim in life. Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.00,0:00:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it sounds quite simple, but actually it's quite a big, big job. Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.00,0:01:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you know, when you look at a piece of music -- for example, Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.00,0:01:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I just open my little motorbike bag -- we have here, hopefully, Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.00,0:01:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a piece of music that is full of little black dots on the page. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.00,0:01:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know, we open it up and I read the music. Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.00,0:01:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So technically, I can actually read this. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.00,0:01:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will follow the instructions, the tempo markings, the dynamics. Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.00,0:01:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will do exactly as I'm told. Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.00,0:01:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so therefore, because time is short, Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.00,0:01:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I just play you literally the first maybe two lines or so. It's very straightforward. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.00,0:01:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's nothing too difficult about the piece. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.00,0:01:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here I'm being told that the piece of music is very quick. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.00,0:01:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm being told where to play on the drum. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.00,0:02:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm being told which part of the stick to use. Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.00,0:02:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm being told the dynamic. Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.00,0:02:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm also being told that the drum is without snares. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.00,0:02:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Snares on, snares off. Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.00,0:02:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So therefore, if I translate this piece of music, we have this idea. (Music) Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.00,0:02:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so on. My career would probably last about five years. Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.00,0:03:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, what I have to do as a musician is do everything that is not on the music. Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.00,0:03:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything that there isn't time to learn from a teacher, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.00,0:03:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to talk about, even, from a teacher. Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.00,0:03:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's the things that you notice when you're not actually with your instrument Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.00,0:03:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in fact become so interesting, and that you want to explore Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.00,0:03:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through this tiny, tiny surface of a drum. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.00,0:03:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there, we experience the translation. Now we'll experience the interpretation. (Music) (Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.00,0:04:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now my career may last a little longer! Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.00,0:04:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in a way, you know, it's the same if I look at you and I see Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.00,0:04:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a nice bright young lady with a pink top on. Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.00,0:04:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see that you're clutching a teddy bear, etc., etc. Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.00,0:04:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I get a basic idea as to what you might be about, what you might like, Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.00,0:04:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you might do as a profession, etc., etc. Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.00,0:05:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, that's just, you know, the initial idea I may have that we all get Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.00,0:05:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we actually look, and we try to interpret, Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.00,0:05:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually it's so unbelievably shallow. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.00,0:05:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the same way, I look at the music; I get a basic idea; Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.00,0:05:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder what technically might be hard, or, you know, what I want to do. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.00,0:05:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just the basic feeling. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.00,0:05:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, that is simply not enough. Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.00,0:05:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think what Herbie said -- please listen, listen. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.00,0:05:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to listen to ourselves, first of all. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.00,0:05:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I play, for example, holding the stick -- where literally I do not let go of the stick -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.00,0:05:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll experience quite a lot of shock coming up through the arm. Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.00,0:05:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you feel really quite -- believe it or not -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.00,0:05:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,detached from the instrument and from the stick, Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.00,0:05:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though I'm actually holding the stick quite tightly. Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.00,0:05:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By holding it tightly, I feel strangely more detached. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.00,0:06:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I just simply let go and allow my hand, my arm, to be more of a support system, Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.00,0:06:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suddenly I have more dynamic with less effort. Much more. Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.00,0:06:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just feel, at last, one with the stick and one with the drum. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.00,0:06:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm doing far, far less. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.00,0:06:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in the same way that I need time with this instrument, Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.00,0:06:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need time with people in order to interpret them. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.00,0:06:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not just translate them, but interpret them. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.00,0:06:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If, for example, I play just a few bars of a piece of music Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.00,0:06:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for which I think of myself as a technician -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.00,0:06:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is, someone who is basically a percussion player ... (Music) Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.00,0:07:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so on. If I think of myself as a musician ... (Music) Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.00,0:07:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so on. There is a little bit of a difference there that is worth just -- (Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.00,0:07:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- thinking about. Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.00,0:07:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I remember when I was 12 years old, Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.00,0:07:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I started playing tympani and percussion, and my teacher said, Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.00,0:07:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, how are we going to do this? You know, music is about listening." Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.00,0:07:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Yes, I agree with that. So what's the problem?" Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.00,0:07:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Well, how are you going to hear this? How are you going to hear that?" Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.00,0:08:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Well, how do you hear it?" Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.00,0:08:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Well, I think I hear it through here." Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.00,0:08:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Well, I think I do too -- but I also hear it through my hands, Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.00,0:08:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through my arms, cheekbones, my scalp, my tummy, my chest, my legs and so on." Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.00,0:08:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we began our lessons every single time tuning drums -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.00,0:08:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in particular, the kettle drums, or tympani -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.00,0:08:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to such a narrow pitch interval, so something like ... Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.00,0:08:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that of a difference. Then gradually ... and gradually ... Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.00,0:08:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's amazing that when you do open your body up, Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.00,0:08:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and open your hand up to allow the vibration to come through, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.00,0:08:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in fact the tiny, tiny difference ... Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.00,0:09:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be felt with just the tiniest part of your finger, there. Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.00,0:09:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so what we would do is that I would put my hands on the wall Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.00,0:09:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the music room, and together we would "listen" to the sounds of the instruments, Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.00,0:09:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really try to connect with those sounds Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.00,0:09:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,far, far more broadly than simply depending on the ear. Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.00,0:09:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of course, the ear is, I mean, subject to all sorts of things. Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.00,0:09:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The room we happen to be in, the amplification, the quality of the instrument, Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.00,0:09:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the type of sticks ... etc., etc. Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.00,0:09:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all different. Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.00,0:09:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Same amount of weight, but different sound colors. Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.00,0:09:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's basically what we are. We're just human beings, Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.00,0:09:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we all have our own little sound colors, as it were, Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.00,0:09:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that make up these extraordinary personalities Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.00,0:10:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and characters and interests and things. Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.00,0:10:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I grew older, I then auditioned for the Royal Academy of Music in London, Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.00,0:10:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they said, "Well, no, we won't accept you, because we haven't a clue, Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.00,0:10:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, of the future of a so-called 'deaf' musician." Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.00,0:10:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just couldn't quite accept that. Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.00,0:10:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so therefore, I said to them, "Well, look, if you refuse -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.00,0:10:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you refuse me through those reasons, Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.00,0:10:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as opposed to the ability to perform and to understand and love Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.00,0:10:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the art of creating sound -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.00,0:10:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we have to think very, very hard about the people you do actually accept." Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.00,0:10:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as a result -- once we got over a little hurdle, and having to audition twice -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.00,0:10:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they accepted me. And not only that -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.00,0:11:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what had happened was that it changed the whole role Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.00,0:11:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the music institutions throughout the United Kingdom. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.00,0:11:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Under no circumstances were they to refuse any application whatsoever on the basis of Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.00,0:11:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether someone had no arms, no legs -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.00,0:11:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they could still perhaps play a wind instrument if it was supported on a stand. Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.00,0:11:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No circumstances at all were used to refuse any entry. Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.00,0:11:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And every single entry had to be listened to, experienced and then Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.00,0:11:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on the musical ability -- then that person could either enter or not. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.00,0:11:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So therefore, this in turn meant that there was an extremely interesting Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.00,0:11:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bunch of students who arrived in these various music institutions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.00,0:11:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have to say, many of them now Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.00,0:11:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the professional orchestras throughout the world. Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.00,0:12:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The interesting thing about this as well, though -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.00,0:12:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.00,0:12:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is quite simply that not only were people connected with sound -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.00,0:12:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is basically all of us, and we well know that music really is our daily medicine. Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.00,0:12:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say "music," but actually I mean "sound." Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.00,0:12:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you know, some of the extraordinary things I've experienced Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.00,0:12:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a musician, when you may have a 15-year-old lad Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.00,0:12:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who has got the most incredible challenges, Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.00,0:12:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who may not be able to control his movements, Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.00,0:12:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who may be deaf, who may be blind, etc., etc. -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.00,0:12:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suddenly, if that young lad sits close to this instrument, Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.00,0:12:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and perhaps even lies underneath the marimba, Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.00,0:12:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you play something that's so incredibly organ-like, almost -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.00,0:12:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't really have the right sticks, perhaps -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.00,0:13:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but something like this. Let me change. (Music) Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.00,0:13:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something that's so unbelievably simple -- Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.00,0:14:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he would be experiencing something that I wouldn't be, Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.00,0:14:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'm on top of the sound. Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.00,0:14:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have the sound coming this way. Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.00,0:14:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He would have the sound coming through the resonators. Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.00,0:14:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there were no resonators on here, we would have ... (Music) Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.00,0:14:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he would have a fullness of sound that those of you in the front few rows Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.00,0:14:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn't experience, those of you in the back few rows wouldn't experience either. Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.00,0:14:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every single one of us, depending on where we're sitting, Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.00,0:14:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will experience this sound quite, quite differently. Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.00,0:14:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, being the participator of the sound, Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.00,0:14:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is starting from the idea of what type of sound I want to produce -- Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.00,0:14:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example, this sound. Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.00,0:14:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you hear anything? Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.00,0:14:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exactly. Because I'm not even touching it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.00,0:15:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But yet, we get the sensation of something happening. Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.00,0:15:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the same way that when I see tree moves, Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.00,0:15:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I imagine that tree making a rustling sound. Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.00,0:15:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see what I mean? Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.00,0:15:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever the eye sees, then there's always sound happening. Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.00,0:15:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's always, always that huge -- Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.00,0:15:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, just this kaleidoscope of things to draw from. Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.00,0:15:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So all of my performances are based on entirely what I experience, Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.00,0:15:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not by learning a piece of music, putting on someone else's interpretation of it, Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.00,0:15:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buying all the CDs possible of that particular piece of music, and so on and so forth. Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.00,0:15:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that isn't giving me enough of something that is so raw and so basic, Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.00,0:15:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and something that I can fully experience the journey of. Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.00,0:16:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it may be that, in certain halls, this dynamic may well work. (Music) Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.00,0:16:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may be that in other halls, they're simply not going to experience that Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.00,0:16:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at all and so therefore, my level of soft, Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.00,0:16:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gentle playing may have to be ... (Music) Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.00,0:16:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see what I mean? So, because of this explosion in access to sound, Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.00,0:16:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially through the deaf community, Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.00,0:16:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this has not only affected how music institutions, Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.00,0:17:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how schools for the deaf treat sound -- and not just as a means of therapy -- Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.00,0:17:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although of course, being a participator of music, Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.00,0:17:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that definitely is the case as well. Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.00,0:17:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's meant that acousticians have had to really think about the types of halls Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.00,0:17:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they put together. There are so few halls in this world Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.00,0:17:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that actually have very good acoustics, Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.00,0:17:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dare I say. But by that I mean where you can absolutely do anything you imagine. Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.00,0:17:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tiniest, softest, softest sound to something that is so broad, Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.00,0:17:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so huge, so incredible! There's always something -- Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.00,0:17:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it may sound good up there, may not be so good there. Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.00,0:17:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,May be great there, but terrible up there. Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.00,0:17:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe terrible over there, but not too bad there, etc., etc. Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.00,0:17:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So to find an actual hall is incredible Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.00,0:17:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- for which you can play exactly what you imagine, Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.00,0:18:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without it being cosmetically enhanced. Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.00,0:18:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so therefore, acousticians are actually in conversation with people who are Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.00,0:18:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hearing impaired, and who are participators of sound. Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.00,0:18:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is quite interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.00,0:18:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I cannot, you know, give you any detail as far as what is actually happening Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.00,0:18:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with those halls, but it's just the fact that they are going to a group of people Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.00,0:18:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for whom so many years we've been saying, Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.00,0:18:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, how on Earth can they experience music? You know, they're deaf." Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.00,0:18:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We just -- we go like that, and we imagine that that's what deafness is about. Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.00,0:18:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or we go like that, and we imagine that's what blindness is about. Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.00,0:18:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we see someone in a wheelchair, we assume they cannot walk. Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.00,0:18:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may be that they can walk three, four, five steps. That, to them, means they can walk. Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.00,0:18:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a year's time, it could be two extra steps. Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.00,0:19:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In another year's time, three extra steps. Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.00,0:19:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are hugely important aspects to think about. Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.00,0:19:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when we do listen to each other, Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.00,0:19:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's unbelievably important for us to really test our listening skills, Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.00,0:19:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to really use our bodies as a resonating chamber, to stop the judgment. Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.00,0:19:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, as a musician who deals with 99 percent of new music, Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.00,0:19:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's very easy for me to say, "Oh yes, I like that piece. Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.00,0:19:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh no, I don't like that piece." And so on. Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.00,0:19:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you know, I just find that I have to give those pieces of music real time. Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.00,0:19:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may be that the chemistry isn't quite right between myself and that particular piece of music, Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.00,0:19:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that doesn't mean I have the right to say it's a bad piece of music. Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.00,0:19:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you know, it's just one of the great things about being a musician, Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.00,0:19:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it is so unbelievably fluid. Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.00,0:20:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there are no rules, no right, no wrong, this way, that way. Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.00,0:20:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I asked you to clap -- maybe I can do this. Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.00,0:20:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I can just say, "Please clap and create the sound of thunder." Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.00,0:20:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm assuming we've all experienced thunder. Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.00,0:20:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I don't mean just the sound; Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.00,0:20:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean really listen to that thunder within yourselves. Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.00,0:20:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And please try to create that through your clapping. Try. Just -- please try. Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.00,0:20:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.00,0:20:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very good! Snow. Snow. Have you ever heard snow? Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.00,0:20:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Audience: No. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.00,0:20:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Evelyn Glennie: Well then, stop clapping. (Laughter) Try again. Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.00,0:20:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Try again. Snow. Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.00,0:20:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, you're awake. Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.00,0:21:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rain. Not bad. Not bad. Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.00,0:21:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the interesting thing here, though, is that I asked a group of kids Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.00,0:21:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not so long ago exactly the same question. Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.00,0:21:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now -- great imagination, thank you very much. Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.00,0:21:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, not one of you got out of your seats to think, Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.00,0:21:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Right! How can I clap? OK, maybe ... (Claps) Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.00,0:21:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe I can use my jewelry to create extra sounds. Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.00,0:21:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe I can use the other parts of my body to create extra sounds." Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.00,0:21:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not a single one of you thought about clapping in a slightly different way Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.00,0:21:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other than sitting in your seats there and using two hands. Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.00,0:21:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the same way that when we listen to music, Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.00,0:21:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we assume that it's all being fed through here. Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.00,0:21:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is how we experience music. Of course it's not. Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.00,0:21:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We experience thunder -- thunder, thunder. Think, think, think. Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.00,0:22:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Listen, listen, listen. Now -- what can we do with thunder? Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.00,0:22:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember my teacher. When I first started, my very first lesson, Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.00,0:22:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was all prepared with sticks, ready to go. Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.00,0:22:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And instead of him saying, "OK, Evelyn, please, feet slightly apart, Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.00,0:22:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arms at a more-or-less 90 degree angle, sticks in a more-or-less V shape, Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.00,0:22:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep this amount of space here, etc. Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.00,0:22:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please keep your back straight, etc., etc., etc." -- Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.00,0:22:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I was probably just going to end up absolutely rigid, frozen, Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.00,0:22:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would not be able to strike the drum, Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.00,0:22:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was thinking of so many other things -- he said, Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.00,0:22:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Evelyn, take this drum away for seven days, and I'll see you next week." Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.00,0:22:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, heavens! What was I to do? I no longer required the sticks; Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.00,0:22:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't allowed to have these sticks. Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.00,0:22:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to basically look at this particular drum, Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.00,0:22:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see how it was made, what these little lugs did, what the snares did. Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.00,0:23:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Turned it upside down, experimented with the shell, experimented with the head. Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.00,0:23:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Experimented with my body, experimented with jewelry, Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.00,0:23:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experimented with all sorts of things. Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.00,0:23:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, I returned with all sorts of bruises and things like that -- Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.00,0:23:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but nevertheless, it was such an unbelievable experience, Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.00,0:23:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because then, where on Earth are you going to experience that in a piece of music? Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.00,0:23:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where on Earth are you going to experience that in a study book? Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.00,0:23:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we never, ever dealt with actual study books. Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.00,0:23:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So for example, one of the things that we learn Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.00,0:23:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we are dealing with being a percussion player, as opposed to a musician, Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.00,0:23:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is basically straightforward single stroke rolls. Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.00,0:24:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like that. And then we get a little faster and a little faster and a little faster. Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.00,0:24:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so on and so forth. What does this piece require? Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.00,0:24:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Single stroke rolls. So why can't I then do that whilst learning a piece of music? Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.00,0:24:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's exactly what he did. Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.00,0:24:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And interestingly, the older I became, and when I became a full-time student Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.00,0:24:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a so called "music institution," all of that went out of the window. Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.00,0:24:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had to study from study books. Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.00,0:24:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And constantly, the question, "Well, why? Why? What is this relating to? Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.00,0:24:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need to play a piece of music." "Oh, well, this will help your control!" Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.00,0:24:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, how? Why do I need to learn that? I need to relate it to a piece of music. Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.00,0:24:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know. I need to say something. Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.00,0:24:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Why am I practicing paradiddles? Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.00,0:25:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it just literally for control, for hand-stick control? Why am I doing that? Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.00,0:25:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need to have the reason, Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.00,0:25:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the reason has to be by saying something through the music." Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.00,0:25:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by saying something through music, which basically is sound, Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.00,0:25:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we then can reach all sorts of things to all sorts of people. Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.00,0:25:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't want to take responsibility of your emotional baggage. Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.00,0:25:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's up to you, when you walk through a hall. Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.00,0:25:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that then determines what and how we listen to certain things. Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.00,0:25:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I may feel sorrowful, or happy, or exhilarated, or angry when I play Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.00,0:25:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain pieces of music, but I'm not necessarily Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.00,0:25:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanting you to feel exactly the same thing. Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.00,0:25:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So please, the next time you go to a concert, Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.00,0:25:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just allow your body to open up, allow your body to be this resonating chamber. Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.00,0:25:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be aware that you're not going to experience the same thing as the performer is. Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.00,0:26:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The performer is in the worst possible position for the actual sound, Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.00,0:26:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're hearing the contact of the stick on the drum, Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.00,0:26:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the mallet on the bit of wood, or the bow on the string, etc., Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.00,0:26:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the breath that's creating the sound from wind and brass. Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.00,0:26:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're experiencing that rawness there. Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.00,0:26:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But yet they're experiencing something so unbelievably pure, Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.00,0:26:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is before the sound is actually happening. Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.00,0:26:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please take note of the life of the sound after the actual initial strike, Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.00,0:26:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or breath, is being pulled. Just experience the whole journey of that sound Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.00,0:26:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the same way that I wished I'd experienced the whole journey Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.00,0:26:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this particular conference, rather than just arriving last night. Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.00,0:26:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I hope maybe we can share one or two things as the day progresses. Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.00,0:26:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But thank you very much for having me! Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.00,0:27:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)