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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.61,0:00:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I worked on a film called "Apollo 13,"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.64,0:00:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when I worked on this film, I discovered something
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.52,0:00:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how our brains work, and how our brains work
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.98,0:00:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that, when we're sort of infused with
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.26,0:00:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either enthusiasm or awe or fondness or whatever,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.51,0:00:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it changes and alters our perception of things.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.92,0:00:18.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It changes what we see. It changes what we remember.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.09,0:00:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as an experiment, because I dauntingly create
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.60,0:00:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a task for myself of recreating a Saturn V launch
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.52,0:00:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this particular movie, because I put it out there,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.94,0:00:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt a little nervous about it, so I need to do an experiment
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.00,0:00:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bring a group of people like this in a projection room
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.61,0:00:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and play this stock footage, and when I played this
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.29,0:00:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stock footage, I simply wanted to find out
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.09,0:00:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what people remembered, what was memorable about it?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.50,0:00:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What should I actually try to replicate?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.51,0:00:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What should I try to emulate to some degree?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.28,0:00:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the footage that I was showing everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.37,0:00:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I discovered is, because of the nature
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.05,0:00:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the footage and the fact that we're doing this film,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.25,0:00:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was an emotion that was built into it
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.20,0:01:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our collective memories of what this launch meant to us
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.28,0:01:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all these various things.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.95,0:01:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I showed it, and I asked, immediately after
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.98,0:01:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the screening was over, what they thought of it,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.78,0:01:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was your memorable shots, they changed them.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.24,0:01:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were -- had camera moves on them.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.62,0:01:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had all kinds of things. Shots were combined,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.30,0:01:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was just really curious, I mean, what the hell
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.28,0:01:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were you looking at just a few minutes ago
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.64,0:01:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how come, how'd you come up with this sort of description?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.49,0:01:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I discovered is, what I should do is not actually
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.34,0:01:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,replicate what they saw, is replicate what they remembered.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.03,0:01:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is our footage of the launch, based on, basically,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.01,0:01:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking notes, asking people what they thought, and then
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.72,0:01:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the combination of all the different shots and all
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.16,0:01:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the different things put together created their sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.09,0:01:45.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collective consciousness of what they remembered
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.13,0:01:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it looked like, but not what it really looked like.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.78,0:01:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is what we created for "Apollo 13."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.77,0:01:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Launch noises)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.24,0:01:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So literally what you're seeing now is the confluence
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.01,0:01:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a bunch of different people, a bunch of different memories,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.07,0:02:02.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including my own, of taking a little bit of liberty
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.37,0:02:04.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the subject matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.09,0:02:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I basically shot everything with short lenses,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.73,0:02:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means that you're very close to the action,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.64,0:02:10.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but framed it very similarly to the long lens shots
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.93,0:02:13.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which gives you a sense of distance, so I was basically
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.57,0:02:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was setting up something that would remind you
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.56,0:02:19.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of something you haven't really quite seen before. (Music)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.03,0:02:21.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I'm going to show you exactly what it is
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.56,0:02:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you were reacting to when you were reacting to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.16,0:02:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Music)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.07,0:02:40.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tom Hanks: Hello, Houston, this is Odyssey.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.19,0:02:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's good to see you again. (Cheers) (Music)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.98,0:02:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob Legato: I pretend they're clapping for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.42,0:02:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.58,0:02:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now I'm in a parking lot. Basically it's a tin can,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.98,0:02:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm basically recreating the launch with
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.81,0:02:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fire extinguishers, fire, I have wax that I threw
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.14,0:03:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in front of the lens to look like ice, and so basically
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.49,0:03:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you believed any of the stuff that I just showed you,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.31,0:03:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you were reacting to, what you're emoting to,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.49,0:03:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something that's a total falsehood, and I found that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.92,0:03:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really kind of fascinating.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.32,0:03:13.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in this particular case, this is the climax of the movie,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.29,0:03:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, you know, the weight of achieving it was simply
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.50,0:03:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take a model, throw it out of a helicopter, and shoot it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.07,0:03:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's simply what I did.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.08,0:03:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's me shooting, and I'm a fairly mediocre operator,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.55,0:03:28.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I got that nice sense of verisimilitude, of a kind of,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.09,0:03:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, following the rocket all the way down,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.92,0:03:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and giving that little sort of edge, I was desperately
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.60,0:03:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to keep it in frame. So then I come up to the next thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.10,0:03:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a NASA consultant who was actually an astronaut,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.70,0:03:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was actually on some of the missions, of Apollo 15,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.70,0:03:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was there to basically double check my science.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.22,0:03:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, I guess somebody thought they needed to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.74,0:03:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.48,0:03:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know why, but they thought they did.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.06,0:03:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we were, he's a hero, he's an astronaut, and
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.21,0:04:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're all sort of excited, and, you know, I gave myself
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.01,0:04:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the liberty of saying, you know, some of the shots I did
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.48,0:04:04.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't really suck that bad.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.89,0:04:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so maybe, you know, we were feeling kind of a little
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.15,0:04:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good about it, so I brought him in here, and he needed
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.61,0:04:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to really check and see what we were doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.15,0:04:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and basically give us our A plus report card,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.13,0:04:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I showed him some shots we were working on,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.10,0:04:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and waiting for the reaction that you hope for,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.21,0:04:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is what I got. (Music) (Launch noises)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.30,0:04:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I showed him these two shots,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.34,0:04:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then he basically told me what he thought.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.75,0:04:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,("That's wrong") (Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.29,0:04:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. (Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.25,0:04:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's what you dream about.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.17,0:04:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.17,0:04:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what I got from him is, he turned to me and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.68,0:04:47.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You would never, ever design a rocket like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.13,0:04:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You would never have a rocket go up
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.38,0:04:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while the gantry arms are going out. Can you imagine
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.44,0:04:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the tragedy that could possibly happen with that?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.50,0:04:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You would never, ever design a rocket like that."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.34,0:04:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was looking at me. It's like, Yeah, I don't know
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.49,0:04:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you noticed, but I'm the guy out in the parking lot
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.50,0:05:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recreating one of America's finest moments with
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.42,0:05:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fire extinguishers.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.08,0:05:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.44,0:05:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not going to argue with you. You're an astronaut,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.37,0:05:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a hero, and I'm from New Jersey, so --
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.65,0:05:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.35,0:05:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just going to show you some footage.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.38,0:05:16.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just going to show you some footage, and tell me what you think.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.99,0:05:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I did kind of get the reaction I was hoping for.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.42,0:05:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I showed him this, and this is actual footage
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.46,0:05:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he was on. This is Apollo 15. This was his mission.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.00,0:05:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I showed him this, and the reaction I got was interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.28,0:05:33.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,("That's wrong too.") (Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.06,0:05:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, and what happened was, I mean, what I sort of intuned
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.30,0:05:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that is that he remembered it differently.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.78,0:05:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He remembered that was a perfectly safe sort of gantry
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.12,0:05:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system, perfectly safe rocket launch, because he's sitting
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.82,0:05:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a rocket that has, like, a hundred thousand pounds
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.05,0:05:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of thrust, built by the lowest bidder.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.32,0:05:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was hoping it was going to work out okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.58,0:05:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) (Applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.34,0:05:55.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he twisted his memory around.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.49,0:05:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, Ron Howard ran into Buzz Aldrin, who was not
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.56,0:06:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the movie, so he had no idea that we were faking
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.88,0:06:03.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any of this footage, and he just responded
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.10,0:06:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as he would respond, and I'll run this.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.93,0:06:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ron Howard: Buzz Aldrin came up to me
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.37,0:06:12.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said, "Hey, that launch footage, I saw some shots
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.81,0:06:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd never seen before. Did you guys, what vault did you find
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.80,0:06:20.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that stuff in?" And I said, "Well, no vault, Buzz,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.26,0:06:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we generated all that from scratch."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.68,0:06:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Huh, that's pretty good. Can we use it?"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.59,0:06:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Explosion) ("Sure") (Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.04,0:06:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RL: I think he's a great American.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.97,0:06:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.75,0:06:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, "Titanic" was, if you don't know the story,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.05,0:06:41.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't end well.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.79,0:06:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.58,0:06:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jim Cameron actually photographed the real Titanic.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.73,0:06:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he basically set up, or basically shattered
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.01,0:06:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the suspension of disbelief, because what he photographed
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.41,0:06:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the real thing, a Mir sub going down, or actually
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.84,0:06:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two Mir subs going down to the real wreck,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.18,0:07:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he created this very haunting footage.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.22,0:07:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really beautiful, and it conjures up all these
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.09,0:07:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,various different emotions, but he couldn't photograph
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.28,0:07:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything, and to tell the story,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.01,0:07:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to fill in the gaps, which is now rather daunting,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.86,0:07:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because now I have to recreate back to back
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.42,0:07:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what really happened and I had, I'm the only one
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.48,0:07:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who could really blow it at that point.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.75,0:07:21.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the footage he photographed,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.79,0:07:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was pretty moving and pretty awe-inspiring.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.44,0:07:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm going to just let it run, so you kind of absorb
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.94,0:07:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this sort of thing, and I'll describe my sort of reactions
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.14,0:07:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was looking at it for the very first time.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.81,0:07:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got the feeling that my brain wanted to basically
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.38,0:07:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see it come back to life.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.76,0:07:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I automatically wanted to see this ship,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.48,0:07:46.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this magnificent ship, basically in all its glory,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.15,0:07:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and conversely, I wanted to see it not in all its glory,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.22,0:07:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically go back to what it looks like.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.67,0:07:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I conjured up an effect that I'm later going to show you
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.13,0:07:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I tried to do, which is kind of the heart of the movie,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.54,0:08:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me, and so that's why I wanted to do the movie,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.14,0:08:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's why I wanted to create the sort of things I created.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.73,0:08:06.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll show you, you know, another thing that I found
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.71,0:08:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting is what we really were emoting to
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.00,0:08:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you take a look at it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.42,0:08:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here's the behind the scenes, a couple of little shots here.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.32,0:08:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when you saw my footage,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.29,0:08:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you were seeing this: basically, a bunch of guys
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.93,0:08:20.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,flipping a ship upside down, and the little Mir subs
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.93,0:08:23.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are actually about the size of small footballs,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.53,0:08:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and shot in smoke.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.56,0:08:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jim went three miles went down, and I went about
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.78,0:08:29.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three miles away from the studio
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.37,0:08:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and photographed this in a garage.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.97,0:08:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, but what you're emoting to, or what you're looking
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.20,0:08:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at, had the same feeling, the same haunting quality,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.32,0:08:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Jim's footage had, so I found it so fascinating
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.56,0:08:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that our brains sort of, once you believe something's real,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.05,0:08:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you transfer everything that you feel about it,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.86,0:08:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this quality you have, and it's totally artificial.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.25,0:08:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's totally make-believe, yet it's not to you,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.98,0:08:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I found that that was a very interesting thing
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.98,0:08:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to explore and use, and it caused me to create the next
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.78,0:09:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effect that I'll show you, which is
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.57,0:09:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this sort of magic transition, and all I was really attempting
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.78,0:09:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do is basically have the audience cue the effect,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.74,0:09:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it became a seamless experience for them,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.39,0:09:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I wasn't showing you my sort of interpretation,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.72,0:09:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was showing you what you wanted to see.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.64,0:09:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the very next shot, right after this --
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.42,0:09:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you can see what I was doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.99,0:09:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So basically, if there's two subs in the same shot,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.78,0:09:28.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I shot it, because where's the camera coming from?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.69,0:09:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when Jim shot it, it was only one sub,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.25,0:09:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he was photographing from the other,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.52,0:09:33.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't remember if I did this or Jim did this.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.23,0:09:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll give it to Jim, because he could use the pat on the back.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.60,0:09:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.92,0:09:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. So now the Titanic transition.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.25,0:09:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is what I was referring to where I wanted to basically
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.40,0:09:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,magically transplant from one state of the Titanic
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.32,0:09:55.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the other. So I'll just play the shot once. (Music)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.27,0:09:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Music)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.71,0:10:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I was hoping for is that it just melts in front of you.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.75,0:10:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gloria Stuart: That was the last time Titanic ever saw daylight.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.30,0:10:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RL: So, what I did is basically I had another
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.08,0:10:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screening room experience where I was basically tracking
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.92,0:10:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I was looking, or where we were looking,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.22,0:10:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course you're looking at the two people on the bow
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.64,0:10:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the ship, and then at some point,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.84,0:10:28.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm changing the periphery of the shot,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.85,0:10:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm changing, it's becoming the rusted wreck,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.18,0:10:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I would run it every day, and then I would find
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.18,0:10:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly the moment that I stopped looking at them
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.25,0:10:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and start noticing the rest of it, and the moment
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.44,0:10:41.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my eye shifted, we just marked it to the frame.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.100,0:10:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The moment my eye shifted, I immediately started
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.38,0:10:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change them, so now somehow you missed
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.71,0:10:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it started and where it stopped.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.05,0:10:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I'll just show it one more time.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.21,0:10:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Music) And it's literally done by using what our brains
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.40,0:10:58.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,naturally do for us, which is, as soon as you shift
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.14,0:11:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your attention, something changes, and then I left
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.09,0:11:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the little scarf going, because it really wanted to be
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.23,0:11:06.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a ghostly shot, really wanted to feel like they were still
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.09,0:11:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the wreck, essentially. That's where they were buried forever.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.42,0:11:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or something like that. I just made that up.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.43,0:11:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.90,0:11:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was, incidentally, the last time I ever saw daylight.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.78,0:11:19.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a long film to work on. (Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.25,0:11:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, "Hugo" was another interesting movie, because
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.53,0:11:23.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the movie itself is about film illusions.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.64,0:11:26.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about how our brain is tricked into seeing a persistence
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.51,0:11:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of vision that creates a motion picture,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.32,0:11:32.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of the things I had to do is, we —
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.100,0:11:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sasha Baron Cohen is a very clever, very smart guy,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.33,0:11:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comedian, wanted to basically do an homage to the kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.48,0:11:40.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Buster Keaton sort of slapstick things, and he wanted
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.70,0:11:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his leg brace to get caught on a moving train.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.01,0:11:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very dangerous, very impossible to do, and particularly
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.13,0:11:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on our stage, because there literally is no way to actually
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.46,0:11:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,move this train, because it fits so snugly into our set.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.32,0:11:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let me show you the scene, and then I basically
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.79,0:12:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,used the trick that was identified by Sergei Eisenstein,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.47,0:12:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is, if you have a camera that's moving with a moving
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.64,0:12:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,object, what is not moving appears to be moving,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.41,0:12:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what is moving appears to be stopped,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.01,0:12:11.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so what you're actually seeing now is the train is not
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.93,0:12:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moving at all, and what is actually moving is the floor.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.01,0:12:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the shot. That's a little video of
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.04,0:12:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you're looking at there, which is our little test,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.32,0:12:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that's actually what you're seeing, and I thought it was
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.90,0:12:28.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of an interesting thing, because it was, part
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.06,0:12:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the homage of the movie itself is coming up with this
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.38,0:12:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of genius trick which I can't take credit for.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.90,0:12:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd love to but I can't, because it was invented
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.56,0:12:41.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like in 1910 or something like that, is I told Marty,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.21,0:12:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's kind of one of those mind things that it's
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.86,0:12:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really hard to really get until you actually see it work,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.24,0:12:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said, you know, what I was going to do, and he said,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.12,0:12:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So, let me see if I can get this straight. The thing with the wheels?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.35,0:12:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That doesn't move."
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.30,0:12:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) (Applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.72,0:12:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And the thing without the wheels, that moves."
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.69,0:13:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Precisely. (Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.17,0:13:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brings me to the next, and final --
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.96,0:13:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Marty's not going to see this, is he? (Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.03,0:13:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This isn't viewed outside of -- (Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.82,0:13:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next illustration is something that, there's like
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.25,0:13:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all one shot theory. It's a very elegant way of telling a story,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.31,0:13:22.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially if you're following somebody on a journey,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.37,0:13:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that journey basically tells something about
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.68,0:13:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their personality in a very concise way,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.92,0:13:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what we wanted to do based on the shot in "Goodfellas,"
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.30,0:13:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is one of the great shots ever,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.18,0:13:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Martin Scorsese film, of basically following Henry Hill
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.56,0:13:36.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through what it feels like to be a gangster walk
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.70,0:13:39.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going through the Copacabana and being treated in a special way.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.26,0:13:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was the master of his universe, and we wanted Hugo
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.77,0:13:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to feel the same way, so we created this shot.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.42,0:13:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Music)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.74,0:13:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's Hugo. (Music)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.77,0:13:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we felt that if we could basically move the camera
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.84,0:13:59.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with him, we would feel what it feels like to be this boy
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.53,0:14:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is basically the master of his universe,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.32,0:14:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his universe is, you know, behind the scenes
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.78,0:14:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the bowels of this particular train station
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.42,0:14:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that only he can actually navigate through
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.73,0:14:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do it this way, and we had to make it feel that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.03,0:14:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is his normal, everyday sort of life,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.34,0:14:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the idea of doing it as one shot was very important,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.90,0:14:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course, in shooting in 3D, which is basically
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.52,0:14:23.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a huge camera that's hanging off of a giant stick,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.53,0:14:27.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so to recreate a steadycam shot was the task,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.05,0:14:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make it feel kind of like what the reaction you got
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.32,0:14:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you saw the "Goodfellas" shot.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.88,0:14:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what you're now going to see is how we actually did it.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.68,0:14:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's actually five separate sets shot at five different times
Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.86,0:14:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with two different boys.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.05,0:14:42.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one on the left is where the shot ends,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.21,0:14:47.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the shot on the right is where it takes over,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.64,0:14:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now we switch boys, so it went from Asa Butterfield,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.14,0:14:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's the star of the show, to his stand-in. (Music)
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.02,0:14:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wouldn't say his stunt double. There's a crazy rig
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.87,0:14:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we built for this. (Music)
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.33,0:15:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this is, and now this is set number three
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.88,0:15:07.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're into, and then we're going to go into, basically
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.26,0:15:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the very last moment of the shot is actually
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.93,0:15:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the steadycam shot. Everything else was shot on cranes
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.21,0:15:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and various things like that, and it literally was done
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.25,0:15:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over five different sets, two different boys, different times,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.55,0:15:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it all had to feel like it was all one shot, and what was
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.38,0:15:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of great for me was it was probably
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.08,0:15:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best-reviewed shot I've ever worked on,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.59,0:15:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, you know, I was kind of proud of it when I was done,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.18,0:15:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is, you should never really be proud of stuff, I guess.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.08,0:15:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I was kind of proud of it, and I went to a friend of mine,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.89,0:15:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said, "You know, this is, you know, kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.81,0:15:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best-reviewed shot I've ever worked on.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.68,0:15:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think was the reason?"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.60,0:15:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Because no one knows
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.00,0:15:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had anything to do with it."
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.97,0:15:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.78,0:15:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, all I can say is, thank you,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.69,0:15:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's my presentation for you. (Applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.89,0:16:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)