WEBVTT 00:00:26.223 --> 00:00:29.135 My name is Mauri. I come from Helsinki. 00:00:48.029 --> 00:00:52.602 For me everything started when I saw Zeitgeist Addendum online and 00:00:52.663 --> 00:00:55.982 the same evening I went to the global forum. 00:00:55.982 --> 00:00:58.927 I was surprised to see that in Finland there were other people who had seen it 00:00:58.958 --> 00:01:01.630 so I thought: should we start doing something? 00:01:01.661 --> 00:01:08.201 Then I discussed for a while in the forum until there was enough people for a meeting. 00:01:08.201 --> 00:01:12.438 We met and decided to start a chapter in Finland. 00:01:40.980 --> 00:01:44.741 Yeah, we agreed on the global forum to have a meeting 00:01:44.741 --> 00:01:47.710 and I remember how we finally met 00:01:47.772 --> 00:01:51.208 on the railway station and walked together to 00:01:51.285 --> 00:01:54.741 a restaurant to have something to eat. 00:01:54.772 --> 00:01:59.232 In the beginning we glared at each other for an hour or so, clearly thinking what kind of 00:01:59.263 --> 00:02:02.570 people these other folks are, that are they completely sane or something 00:02:02.570 --> 00:02:08.581 and I guess we decided that we need a website and our own discussion forum 00:02:08.581 --> 00:02:12.937 and that we need to organize something for the first Z-day. 00:02:12.937 --> 00:02:18.418 We managed to organize an Addendum screening in a movie theatre. 00:02:52.654 --> 00:02:55.336 What people have probably liked the most, 00:02:55.336 --> 00:02:56.890 of what we have done here in Finland, 00:02:56.890 --> 00:02:59.364 are the kind of real-life happenings. 00:02:59.364 --> 00:03:02.893 One example was when we went to the Kamppi mall and 00:03:02.893 --> 00:03:06.899 organized a "Public Freeze" where everyone stood still at the same time 00:03:06.899 --> 00:03:09.903 for exactly five minutes and in the end 00:03:09.903 --> 00:03:13.574 we opened our palms and dropped huge amounts of five-cent coins on the floor 00:03:13.574 --> 00:03:19.746 that bounced and tinkled on the floor while someone from the upper floor threw a load of fake ten-euro notes 00:03:19.746 --> 00:03:22.833 that had www.zeitgeist.fi written on them. 00:03:23.818 --> 00:03:25.696 Afterwards people were super excited and said 00:03:25.696 --> 00:03:27.693 "Yeah, more of this kind of action" 00:03:27.693 --> 00:03:30.780 "just send me a message and I'll be there!" 00:03:31.442 --> 00:03:34.888 In my opinion these have been the best actions we've done in the Finnish Zeitgeist movement 00:03:34.888 --> 00:03:37.257 this kind of small real-life stunts. 00:03:37.257 --> 00:03:41.889 Apart from those we've had national meetings where we've had 00:03:41.889 --> 00:03:43.544 a good amount of participants. 00:04:55.876 --> 00:04:58.101 I had just returned to Finland from a trip in Asia 00:04:58.101 --> 00:05:00.334 where I had shot with a tiny camera 00:05:00.334 --> 00:05:03.584 how a buffalo takes a shit and other witty material 00:05:03.584 --> 00:05:06.745 and I realized how nice it was to edit it together. 00:05:06.745 --> 00:05:08.700 Since I still had the camera 00:05:08.700 --> 00:05:10.889 I thought I really need to shoot and edit something. 00:05:10.889 --> 00:05:13.855 We were just in a Zeitgeist meeting and I saw how 00:05:13.855 --> 00:05:17.809 the young guns spoke with great conviction: 00:05:17.809 --> 00:05:20.816 "let's make this world a better place" while the comments from outside 00:05:20.816 --> 00:05:27.203 the movement were always that these people are some freaks and conspiracy theorists 00:05:27.203 --> 00:05:28.970 socialists, communists 00:05:28.970 --> 00:05:31.265 so I was pissed off and thinking 00:05:31.265 --> 00:05:35.173 if only you'd see their faces and hear what they have to say 00:05:35.173 --> 00:05:38.905 so the trolling in internet would stop immediately. 00:05:41.104 --> 00:05:46.038 In the beginning our vision was just to have Henkka in front of camera to tell about 00:05:46.038 --> 00:05:50.814 The Zeitgeist Movement, coupled with Yrjö Kallinen videos... 00:05:50.814 --> 00:05:57.285 [he makes a mistake and the shot is re-done] 00:05:57.285 --> 00:06:15.503 ... 00:06:18.103 --> 00:06:19.989 Originally the idea was just that 00:06:19.989 --> 00:06:21.481 we'll shoot Henkka speaking and 00:06:21.481 --> 00:06:23.966 color it with Yrjö Kallinen material 00:06:23.966 --> 00:06:27.338 and maybe some nice music and stuff. 00:06:27.338 --> 00:06:29.976 We had no idea of making a full-length film. 00:06:30.729 --> 00:06:33.359 Then we gathered a core group of people 00:06:33.359 --> 00:06:37.111 and suddenly the whole project started to inflate, 00:06:37.111 --> 00:06:40.010 so many people to interview, that we had to prioritize 00:06:40.010 --> 00:06:42.865 that we just can't take on such a massive production 00:06:42.865 --> 00:06:45.287 because none of us had ever done a documentary film 00:06:45.287 --> 00:06:48.341 but we didn't let it slow us down. 00:07:30.868 --> 00:07:33.616 A huge inspiration for this film 00:07:33.616 --> 00:07:35.611 at least for me personally 00:07:35.611 --> 00:07:37.532 was the fact that I found out about Yrjö Kallinen 00:07:38.362 --> 00:07:39.584 a man who used to live 00:07:39.615 --> 00:07:41.283 long ago before me 00:07:41.621 --> 00:07:43.698 and how he so succintly discussed 00:07:43.698 --> 00:07:47.899 exactly the same topics that The Zeitgeist Movement deals with. 00:07:50.128 --> 00:07:52.505 It was a kind of call to action, that 00:07:52.566 --> 00:07:55.424 yes, even in Finland these matters have been touched upon, and 00:07:55.424 --> 00:08:00.283 now it's up to our generation to bring up the same topics. 00:08:23.372 --> 00:08:29.139 In the beginning we were like "I wonder if we could ask someone to be interviewed in our film?" 00:08:29.169 --> 00:08:32.427 and I was like "I don't know if anyone would be willing". 00:08:32.427 --> 00:08:35.220 But then we just started putting names on paper 00:08:35.220 --> 00:08:37.533 and we noted down some ten names in a day 00:08:37.533 --> 00:08:40.446 and we just started calling them and sending e-mails 00:08:40.446 --> 00:08:42.674 probing for interest. 00:08:42.674 --> 00:08:45.580 To our surprise pretty much everyone agreed 00:08:45.580 --> 00:08:48.044 and wanted to be interviewed. 00:08:48.567 --> 00:08:50.871 Apparently it showed 00:08:50.871 --> 00:08:54.820 that we are genuinely trying to do something good 00:08:54.820 --> 00:09:00.238 and we are not just adhering to some ideology: "buy this and it's a solution to everything" 00:09:00.274 --> 00:09:03.730 but instead: young people are trying their best 00:09:03.730 --> 00:09:07.203 to bring out some light at the end of the tunnel. 00:09:15.789 --> 00:09:17.218 So, the question was 00:09:17.218 --> 00:09:18.855 "well, what do we need?" 00:09:18.870 --> 00:09:21.400 and I was there with my four-hundred-euro camera. 00:09:21.400 --> 00:09:24.579 I thought I have to have a better camera so I bought one. 00:09:24.579 --> 00:09:27.790 Suddenly Vesa comes along 00:09:27.790 --> 00:09:30.664 with his professional equipment and know-how 00:09:30.664 --> 00:09:32.983 and whatever we needed it 00:09:32.983 --> 00:09:35.205 just appeared as if from out of the blue, 00:09:35.205 --> 00:09:37.334 almost like ordered. 00:09:37.334 --> 00:09:39.208 - Whatever it was we needed 00:09:39.208 --> 00:09:41.122 human resources, help in something, 00:09:41.122 --> 00:09:43.203 money, professional knowledge... 00:10:38.089 --> 00:10:39.363 "The Spirit of the Times" became the name 00:10:39.363 --> 00:10:41.425 it wasn't really decided at all 00:10:41.425 --> 00:10:43.369 it was just that we needed something 00:10:43.369 --> 00:10:45.177 I had come up with a home-made trailer 00:10:45.177 --> 00:10:48.469 and we had no idea what the film would be 00:10:48.484 --> 00:10:51.033 but we thought "it needs to have a name". 00:10:51.033 --> 00:10:53.220 So then, of course, I was mulling over "Zeitgeist" 00:10:53.220 --> 00:10:56.458 "Yes, Spirit of the Times, that's good" 00:10:56.458 --> 00:10:58.337 "People will get this." 00:11:41.738 --> 00:11:44.119 We really had no money 00:11:44.119 --> 00:11:45.528 to make the film. 00:11:45.528 --> 00:11:47.943 Nor we had money to spread out 00:11:47.943 --> 00:11:49.659 huge posters everywhere 00:11:49.659 --> 00:11:51.584 advertising an upcoming film 00:11:51.584 --> 00:11:53.615 so we had one guy from The Zeitgeist Movement who 00:11:53.615 --> 00:11:56.580 came up with an ingenious strategy to be implemented in Facebook: 00:11:56.610 --> 00:11:59.142 let's create a group that tells 00:11:59.142 --> 00:12:00.958 the name of the film 00:12:00.958 --> 00:12:03.177 and ask people to invite all their friends in the group. 00:12:03.177 --> 00:12:05.175 Just because we had no money for advertising, yet 00:12:05.175 --> 00:12:06.888 we felt that the content is important. 00:12:06.888 --> 00:12:08.700 What did we get... 00:12:08.700 --> 00:12:10.739 I remember we started the group in the evening, 00:12:10.739 --> 00:12:13.701 and next morning there were 20 000 invited people in it. 00:12:15.224 --> 00:12:19.866 I don't even know how many tens or hundreds of thousands it finally achieved 00:12:20.203 --> 00:12:23.288 but because of this the film was seen by some 00:12:23.288 --> 00:12:25.950 40.000 people during the first day 00:12:25.950 --> 00:12:30.190 which totally caught us all unawares. 00:12:34.729 --> 00:12:37.890 So far media has not taken interest in the topic. 00:12:37.890 --> 00:12:41.120 I've approached some reporters just for the kicks 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:42.537 and mentioned that 00:12:42.537 --> 00:12:46.973 "Hey, this is potentially the most-viewed Finnish documentary film in history" 00:12:47.173 --> 00:12:49.253 "so, I was thinking, would you like to write about it?" 00:12:50.253 --> 00:12:52.283 They've been pretty positive about it. 00:12:52.283 --> 00:12:55.815 They just haven't been aware that something like this has been done 00:12:55.815 --> 00:12:59.192 and then they've wanted to cover it. 00:13:14.609 --> 00:13:16.743 It was mostly the Zeitgeist folks who 00:13:16.743 --> 00:13:18.615 kind of promoted the film 00:13:18.615 --> 00:13:20.416 and knew that it's in the works. 00:13:20.416 --> 00:13:22.532 They encouraged and helped a lot. 00:13:23.055 --> 00:13:27.891 Without the Zeitgeist network this film would have never been made. 00:13:27.891 --> 00:13:31.666 Pretty much anything we needed we would just ask from the email list 00:13:31.666 --> 00:13:33.453 or Facebook or somewhere 00:13:33.453 --> 00:13:35.061 and said we needed help 00:13:35.061 --> 00:13:37.176 asking who'd know this and that 00:13:37.176 --> 00:13:40.771 and exactly because of this Zeitgeist network 00:13:40.771 --> 00:13:43.373 we found the right people to help. 00:15:59.064 --> 00:16:02.573 What has been the most important factor in The Zeitgeist Movement 00:16:02.573 --> 00:16:05.283 are indeed the people 00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:09.787 who have the same basis and understanding of the current society, 00:16:09.787 --> 00:16:13.173 and drive, a definite drive, to do something. 00:16:14.789 --> 00:16:16.970 I've gained a lot of good friends 00:16:16.970 --> 00:16:18.930 from The Zeitgeist Movement. 00:16:19.254 --> 00:16:21.254 Whatever I wish to do in the future 00:16:21.254 --> 00:16:22.890 to make this world a better place 00:16:22.890 --> 00:16:24.899 and whatever projects I might want to take part in 00:16:24.899 --> 00:16:27.204 I know that the network from 00:16:27.204 --> 00:16:30.117 The Zeitgeist Movement is still there 00:16:30.117 --> 00:16:32.382 and from there I will find excited help 00:16:32.382 --> 00:16:35.694 if I have anything reasonable to do. 00:16:37.155 --> 00:16:39.962 Now I've personally wanted to focus more on 00:16:39.962 --> 00:16:41.618 this Occupy Movement. 00:16:41.618 --> 00:16:43.755 It feels like immediate action, 00:16:43.755 --> 00:16:45.414 not mere theorizing, 00:16:46.152 --> 00:16:50.197 mulling over theories and discussing 00:16:50.197 --> 00:16:53.970 common themes that are not obvious to everyone. 00:16:54.831 --> 00:16:58.239 This is at least something practical to do. 00:18:05.616 --> 00:18:10.363 What's going on in the world is a very strong process of change. 00:18:11.716 --> 00:18:14.112 Above all, it's a process. 00:18:14.112 --> 00:18:16.022 We don't know where it leads, 00:18:16.022 --> 00:18:17.445 what will we have after that, 00:18:17.445 --> 00:18:19.979 will there be the next character of authority, 00:18:19.979 --> 00:18:23.060 perhaps we learned nothing in our day and age 00:18:23.736 --> 00:18:26.869 and we'll need some masculine character to save us once again? 00:18:27.961 --> 00:18:30.015 But the process is running 00:18:30.015 --> 00:18:32.142 and we can all be part of it, 00:18:32.142 --> 00:18:35.206 share with others what we've learned 00:18:35.206 --> 00:18:38.279 regarding this life and about us humans. 00:18:39.741 --> 00:18:42.576 I'm sure that as long as we cooperate with one another 00:18:42.576 --> 00:18:48.217 we will reach a future worth living in. 00:19:23.221 --> 00:19:26.131 The biggest challenge from moving away 00:19:26.131 --> 00:19:28.137 from this current state-of-mind and system 00:19:28.137 --> 00:19:32.452 apart from the solutions from the authority 00:19:32.452 --> 00:19:34.699 - see, we can be given solutions - 00:19:35.822 --> 00:19:38.375 The largest obstacle to our development is of course 00:19:39.636 --> 00:19:43.386 this certain dream state in which we are living in. 00:19:44.368 --> 00:19:46.611 The authority tells us something - 00:19:46.611 --> 00:19:48.782 - in some school some great person teaches us - 00:19:48.782 --> 00:19:50.823 - and we start repeating it as a truth. 00:19:50.823 --> 00:19:52.336 Then we repeat it over and over again 00:19:52.336 --> 00:19:54.587 and view the world, demanding: 00:19:54.587 --> 00:19:59.702 "Give me proof that what I'm repeating is true". 00:19:59.702 --> 00:20:02.579 Like that we feign ourselves and make believe 00:20:04.009 --> 00:20:06.061 that the dream state is real. 00:20:07.553 --> 00:20:11.616 People need some personal experience, 00:20:12.616 --> 00:20:15.219 for instance something that shatters their world view, 00:20:16.034 --> 00:20:19.415 to see that what you've taken for granted is now, for the first time 00:20:20.061 --> 00:20:22.040 nothing but an illusion. 00:20:22.609 --> 00:20:25.288 It might be, for instance, a close encounter with death 00:20:25.288 --> 00:20:26.743 - your own or someone close to you - 00:20:27.327 --> 00:20:30.205 that awakens the basic questions of life: 00:20:30.666 --> 00:20:32.024 "Who am I?" 00:20:32.470 --> 00:20:34.260 "What is my relationship to others?" 00:20:34.813 --> 00:20:38.288 "What is my relationship with this planet?" 00:21:40.771 --> 00:21:45.307 Never stop dreaming!