1 00:00:00,381 --> 00:00:04,604 "Even in purely non-religious terms, 2 00:00:04,604 --> 00:00:10,659 homosexuality represents a misuse of the sexual faculty. 3 00:00:10,659 --> 00:00:15,285 It is a pathetic little second-rate substitute for reality -- 4 00:00:15,285 --> 00:00:17,685 a pitiable flight from life. 5 00:00:17,685 --> 00:00:21,508 As such, it deserves no compassion, 6 00:00:21,508 --> 00:00:24,070 it deserves no treatment 7 00:00:24,070 --> 00:00:26,837 as minority martyrdom, 8 00:00:26,837 --> 00:00:33,515 and it deserves not to be deemed anything but a pernicious sickness." 9 00:00:33,515 --> 00:00:38,737 That's from Time magazine in 1966, when I was three years old. 10 00:00:38,737 --> 00:00:42,651 And last year, the president of the United States 11 00:00:42,651 --> 00:00:45,234 came out in favor of gay marriage. 12 00:00:45,234 --> 00:00:52,683 (Applause) 13 00:00:52,683 --> 00:00:58,385 And my question is, how did we get from there to here? 14 00:00:58,385 --> 00:01:03,125 How did an illness become an identity? 15 00:01:03,125 --> 00:01:06,085 When I was perhaps six years old, 16 00:01:06,085 --> 00:01:09,018 I went to a shoe store with my mother and my brother. 17 00:01:09,018 --> 00:01:11,425 And at the end of buying our shoes, 18 00:01:11,425 --> 00:01:15,217 the salesman said to us that we could each have a balloon to take home. 19 00:01:15,217 --> 00:01:20,883 My brother wanted a red balloon, and I wanted a pink balloon. 20 00:01:20,883 --> 00:01:25,798 My mother said that she thought I'd really rather have a blue balloon. 21 00:01:25,798 --> 00:01:28,934 But I said that I definitely wanted the pink one. 22 00:01:28,934 --> 00:01:34,353 And she reminded me that my favorite color was blue. 23 00:01:34,353 --> 00:01:39,143 The fact that my favorite color now is blue, but I'm still gay -- 24 00:01:39,143 --> 00:01:42,251 (Laughter) -- 25 00:01:42,251 --> 00:01:46,623 is evidence of both my mother's influence and its limits. 26 00:01:46,623 --> 00:01:48,690 (Laughter) 27 00:01:48,690 --> 00:01:55,557 (Applause) 28 00:01:55,557 --> 00:01:58,098 When I was little, my mother used to say, 29 00:01:58,114 --> 00:02:02,650 "The love you have for your children is like no other feeling in the world. 30 00:02:02,650 --> 00:02:05,995 And until you have children, you don't know what it's like." 31 00:02:05,995 --> 00:02:09,189 And when I was little, I took it as the greatest compliment in the world 32 00:02:09,189 --> 00:02:12,009 that she would say that about parenting my brother and me. 33 00:02:12,009 --> 00:02:14,637 And when I was an adolescent, I thought 34 00:02:14,637 --> 00:02:18,001 that I'm gay, and so I probably can't have a family. 35 00:02:18,001 --> 00:02:20,378 And when she said it, it made me anxious. 36 00:02:20,378 --> 00:02:21,904 And after I came out of the closet, 37 00:02:21,904 --> 00:02:25,104 when she continued to say it, it made me furious. 38 00:02:25,104 --> 00:02:29,245 I said, "I'm gay. That's not the direction that I'm headed in. 39 00:02:29,245 --> 00:02:32,290 And I want you to stop saying that." 40 00:02:35,013 --> 00:02:40,070 About 20 years ago, I was asked by my editors at The New York Times Magazine 41 00:02:40,070 --> 00:02:42,511 to write a piece about deaf culture. 42 00:02:42,511 --> 00:02:44,348 And I was rather taken aback. 43 00:02:44,348 --> 00:02:46,543 I had thought of deafness entirely as an illness. 44 00:02:46,543 --> 00:02:48,269 Those poor people, they couldn't hear. 45 00:02:48,269 --> 00:02:51,043 They lacked hearing, and what could we do for them? 46 00:02:51,043 --> 00:02:53,160 And then I went out into the deaf world. 47 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,551 I went to deaf clubs. 48 00:02:55,551 --> 00:02:59,471 I saw performances of deaf theater and of deaf poetry. 49 00:02:59,471 --> 00:03:05,682 I even went to the Miss Deaf America contest in Nashville, Tennessee 50 00:03:05,682 --> 00:03:09,526 where people complained about that slurry Southern signing. 51 00:03:09,526 --> 00:03:13,782 (Laughter) 52 00:03:13,782 --> 00:03:17,709 And as I plunged deeper and deeper into the deaf world, 53 00:03:17,709 --> 00:03:20,715 I become convinced that deafness was a culture 54 00:03:20,715 --> 00:03:23,077 and that the people in the deaf world who said, 55 00:03:23,077 --> 00:03:26,444 "We don't lack hearing, we have membership in a culture," 56 00:03:26,444 --> 00:03:29,021 were saying something that was viable. 57 00:03:29,021 --> 00:03:30,526 It wasn't my culture, 58 00:03:30,526 --> 00:03:33,244 and I didn't particularly want to rush off and join it, 59 00:03:33,244 --> 00:03:36,075 but I appreciated that it was a culture 60 00:03:36,075 --> 00:03:38,210 and that for the people who were members of it, 61 00:03:38,210 --> 00:03:44,499 it felt as valuable as Latino culture or gay culture or Jewish culture. 62 00:03:44,499 --> 00:03:49,499 It felt as valid perhaps even as American culture. 63 00:03:49,499 --> 00:03:52,913 Then a friend of a friend of mine had a daughter who was a dwarf. 64 00:03:52,913 --> 00:03:54,392 And when her daughter was born, 65 00:03:54,392 --> 00:03:56,708 she suddenly found herself confronting questions 66 00:03:56,723 --> 00:03:59,510 that now began to seem quite resonant to me. 67 00:03:59,510 --> 00:04:03,377 She was facing the question of what to do with this child. 68 00:04:03,377 --> 00:04:06,837 Should she say, "You're just like everyone else but a little bit shorter?" 69 00:04:06,837 --> 00:04:10,052 Or should she try to construct some kind of dwarf identity, 70 00:04:10,052 --> 00:04:12,599 get involved in the Little People of America, 71 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:15,392 become aware of what was happening for dwarfs? 72 00:04:15,392 --> 00:04:16,993 And I suddenly thought, 73 00:04:16,993 --> 00:04:19,212 most deaf children are born to hearing parents. 74 00:04:19,212 --> 00:04:22,011 Those hearing parents tend to try to cure them. 75 00:04:22,011 --> 00:04:26,177 Those deaf people discover community somehow in adolescence. 76 00:04:26,177 --> 00:04:28,526 Most gay people are born to straight parents. 77 00:04:28,526 --> 00:04:30,974 Those straight parents often want them to function 78 00:04:30,974 --> 00:04:33,244 in what they think of as the mainstream world, 79 00:04:33,244 --> 00:04:36,848 and those gay people have to discover identity later on. 80 00:04:36,848 --> 00:04:38,464 And here was this friend of mine 81 00:04:38,464 --> 00:04:41,793 looking at these questions of identity with her dwarf daughter. 82 00:04:41,793 --> 00:04:43,569 And I thought, there it is again: 83 00:04:43,569 --> 00:04:46,135 A family that perceives itself to be normal 84 00:04:46,135 --> 00:04:48,505 with a child who seems to be extraordinary. 85 00:04:48,505 --> 00:04:53,017 And I hatched the idea that there are really two kinds of identity. 86 00:04:53,017 --> 00:04:54,941 There are vertical identities, 87 00:04:54,941 --> 00:04:57,923 which are passed down generationally from parent to child. 88 00:04:57,923 --> 00:05:03,526 Those are things like ethnicity, frequently nationality, language, often religion. 89 00:05:03,526 --> 00:05:08,004 Those are things you have in common with your parents and with your children. 90 00:05:08,004 --> 00:05:10,277 And while some of them can be difficult, 91 00:05:10,277 --> 00:05:12,471 there's no attempt to cure them. 92 00:05:12,471 --> 00:05:15,883 You can argue that it's harder in the United States -- 93 00:05:15,883 --> 00:05:17,857 our current presidency notwithstanding -- 94 00:05:17,857 --> 00:05:19,690 to be a person of color. 95 00:05:19,690 --> 00:05:22,389 And yet, we have nobody who is trying to ensure 96 00:05:22,389 --> 00:05:26,277 that the next generation of children born to African-Americans and Asians 97 00:05:26,277 --> 00:05:29,666 come out with creamy skin and yellow hair. 98 00:05:29,666 --> 00:05:33,943 There are these other identities which you have to learn from a peer group. 99 00:05:33,943 --> 00:05:36,241 And I call them horizontal identities, 100 00:05:36,241 --> 00:05:39,136 because the peer group is the horizontal experience. 101 00:05:39,136 --> 00:05:41,704 These are identities that are alien to your parents 102 00:05:41,704 --> 00:05:45,889 and that you have to discover when you get to see them in peers. 103 00:05:45,889 --> 00:05:48,974 And those identities, those horizontal identities, 104 00:05:48,974 --> 00:05:52,690 people have almost always tried to cure. 105 00:05:52,690 --> 00:05:55,358 And I wanted to look at what the process is 106 00:05:55,358 --> 00:05:57,575 through which people who have those identities 107 00:05:57,575 --> 00:06:00,303 come to a good relationship with them. 108 00:06:00,303 --> 00:06:04,556 And it seemed to me that there were three levels of acceptance 109 00:06:04,556 --> 00:06:05,995 that needed to take place. 110 00:06:05,995 --> 00:06:11,544 There's self-acceptance, there's family acceptance, and there's social acceptance. 111 00:06:11,544 --> 00:06:13,491 And they don't always coincide. 112 00:06:13,491 --> 00:06:17,627 And a lot of the time, people who have these conditions are very angry 113 00:06:17,627 --> 00:06:20,691 because they feel as though their parents don't love them, 114 00:06:20,691 --> 00:06:24,990 when what actually has happened is that their parents don't accept them. 115 00:06:24,990 --> 00:06:28,156 Love is something that ideally is there unconditionally 116 00:06:28,156 --> 00:06:31,203 throughout the relationship between a parent and a child. 117 00:06:31,203 --> 00:06:34,469 But acceptance is something that takes time. 118 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:36,704 It always takes time. 119 00:06:36,704 --> 00:06:41,596 One of the dwarfs I got to know was a guy named Clinton Brown. 120 00:06:41,596 --> 00:06:44,998 When he was born, he was diagnosed with diastrophic dwarfism, 121 00:06:44,998 --> 00:06:46,776 a very disabling condition, 122 00:06:46,776 --> 00:06:50,182 and his parents were told that he would never walk, he would never talk, 123 00:06:50,182 --> 00:06:52,157 he would have no intellectual capacity, 124 00:06:52,157 --> 00:06:54,856 and he would probably not even recognize them. 125 00:06:54,856 --> 00:06:58,277 And it was suggested to them that they leave him at the hospital 126 00:06:58,277 --> 00:07:00,491 so that he could die there quietly. 127 00:07:00,491 --> 00:07:02,455 And his mother said she wasn't going to do it. 128 00:07:02,455 --> 00:07:04,222 And she took her son home. 129 00:07:04,222 --> 00:07:07,856 And even though she didn't have a lot of educational or financial advantages, 130 00:07:07,856 --> 00:07:09,804 she found the best doctor in the country 131 00:07:09,804 --> 00:07:12,003 for dealing with diastrophic dwarfism, 132 00:07:12,003 --> 00:07:14,169 and she got Clinton enrolled with him. 133 00:07:14,169 --> 00:07:16,250 And in the course of his childhood, 134 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:19,323 he had 30 major surgical procedures. 135 00:07:19,323 --> 00:07:21,510 And he spent all this time stuck in the hospital 136 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:23,203 while he was having those procedures, 137 00:07:23,203 --> 00:07:25,611 as a result of which he now can walk. 138 00:07:25,611 --> 00:07:29,961 And while he was there, they sent tutors around to help him with his school work. 139 00:07:29,961 --> 00:07:32,790 And he worked very hard because there was nothing else to do. 140 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:34,537 And he ended up achieving at a level 141 00:07:34,537 --> 00:07:38,112 that had never before been contemplated by any member of his family. 142 00:07:38,112 --> 00:07:41,442 He was the first one in his family, in fact, to go to college, 143 00:07:41,442 --> 00:07:44,824 where he lived on campus and drove a specially-fitted car 144 00:07:44,824 --> 00:07:47,608 that accommodated his unusual body. 145 00:07:47,608 --> 00:07:50,571 And his mother told me this story of coming home one day -- 146 00:07:50,571 --> 00:07:52,336 and he went to college nearby -- 147 00:07:52,336 --> 00:07:55,423 and she said, "I saw that car, which you can always recognize, 148 00:07:55,423 --> 00:07:59,846 in the parking lot of a bar," she said. (Laughter) 149 00:07:59,846 --> 00:08:04,456 "And I thought to myself, they're six feet tall, he's three feet tall. 150 00:08:04,456 --> 00:08:06,756 Two beers for them is four beers for him." 151 00:08:06,756 --> 00:08:09,369 She said, "I knew I couldn't go in there and interrupt him, 152 00:08:09,369 --> 00:08:13,557 but I went home, and I left him eight messages on his cell phone." 153 00:08:13,557 --> 00:08:15,042 She said, "And then I thought, 154 00:08:15,042 --> 00:08:17,142 if someone had said to me when he was born 155 00:08:17,142 --> 00:08:22,755 that my future worry would be that he'd go drinking and driving with his college buddies -- " 156 00:08:22,755 --> 00:08:31,537 (Applause) 157 00:08:31,537 --> 00:08:33,576 And I said to her, "What do you think you did 158 00:08:33,576 --> 00:08:38,036 that helped him to emerge as this charming, accomplished, wonderful person?" 159 00:08:38,036 --> 00:08:42,723 And she said, "What did I do? I loved him, that's all. 160 00:08:42,723 --> 00:08:45,859 Clinton just always had that light in him. 161 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:52,272 And his father and I were lucky enough to be the first to see it there." 162 00:08:52,272 --> 00:08:55,310 I'm going to quote from another magazine of the '60s. 163 00:08:55,310 --> 00:09:01,004 This one is from 1968 -- The Atlantic Monthly, voice of liberal America -- 164 00:09:01,004 --> 00:09:03,808 written by an important bioethicist. 165 00:09:03,808 --> 00:09:07,616 He said, "There is no reason to feel guilty 166 00:09:07,616 --> 00:09:10,921 about putting a Down syndrome child away, 167 00:09:10,921 --> 00:09:15,980 whether it is put away in the sense of hidden in a sanitarium 168 00:09:15,980 --> 00:09:19,889 or in a more responsible, lethal sense. 169 00:09:19,889 --> 00:09:24,837 It is sad, yes -- dreadful. But it carries no guilt. 170 00:09:24,837 --> 00:09:28,937 True guilt arises only from an offense against a person, 171 00:09:28,937 --> 00:09:33,538 and a Down's is not a person." 172 00:09:33,538 --> 00:09:37,479 There's been a lot of ink given to the enormous progress that we've made 173 00:09:37,479 --> 00:09:39,606 in the treatment of gay people. 174 00:09:39,606 --> 00:09:43,642 The fact that our attitude has changed is in the headlines every day. 175 00:09:43,642 --> 00:09:48,338 But we forget how we used to see people who had other differences, 176 00:09:48,338 --> 00:09:50,476 how we used to see people who were disabled, 177 00:09:50,476 --> 00:09:53,389 how inhuman we held people to be. 178 00:09:53,389 --> 00:09:55,267 And the change that's been accomplished there, 179 00:09:55,267 --> 00:09:57,093 which is almost equally radical, 180 00:09:57,093 --> 00:09:59,969 is one that we pay not very much attention to. 181 00:09:59,969 --> 00:10:03,921 One of the families I interviewed, Tom and Karen Robards, 182 00:10:03,921 --> 00:10:07,649 were taken aback when, as young and successful New Yorkers, 183 00:10:07,649 --> 00:10:11,104 their first child was diagnosed with Down syndrome. 184 00:10:11,104 --> 00:10:15,190 They thought the educational opportunities for him were not what they should be, 185 00:10:15,190 --> 00:10:19,043 and so they decided they would build a little center -- 186 00:10:19,043 --> 00:10:22,707 two classrooms that they started with a few other parents -- 187 00:10:22,707 --> 00:10:25,170 to educate kids with D.S. 188 00:10:25,170 --> 00:10:29,070 And over the years, that center grew into something called the Cooke Center, 189 00:10:29,070 --> 00:10:31,227 where there are now thousands upon thousands 190 00:10:31,227 --> 00:10:35,004 of children with intellectual disabilities who are being taught. 191 00:10:35,004 --> 00:10:38,142 In the time since that Atlantic Monthly story ran, 192 00:10:38,142 --> 00:10:42,315 the life expectancy for people with Down syndrome has tripled. 193 00:10:42,315 --> 00:10:47,074 The experience of Down syndrome people includes those who are actors, 194 00:10:47,074 --> 00:10:53,127 those who are writers, some who are able to live fully independently in adulthood. 195 00:10:53,127 --> 00:10:55,002 The Robards had a lot to do with that. 196 00:10:55,002 --> 00:10:56,536 And I said, "Do you regret it? 197 00:10:56,536 --> 00:10:59,139 Do you wish your child didn't have Down syndrome? 198 00:10:59,139 --> 00:11:00,988 Do you wish you'd never heard of it?" 199 00:11:00,988 --> 00:11:03,355 And interestingly his father said, 200 00:11:03,355 --> 00:11:05,942 "Well, for David, our son, I regret it, 201 00:11:05,942 --> 00:11:09,322 because for David, it's a difficult way to be in the world, 202 00:11:09,322 --> 00:11:12,070 and I'd like to give David an easier life. 203 00:11:12,070 --> 00:11:17,170 But I think if we lost everyone with Down syndrome, it would be a catastrophic loss." 204 00:11:17,170 --> 00:11:20,601 And Karen Robards said to me, "I'm with Tom. 205 00:11:20,601 --> 00:11:24,542 For David, I would cure it in an instant to give him an easier life. 206 00:11:24,542 --> 00:11:29,978 But speaking for myself -- well, I would never have believed 23 years ago when he was born 207 00:11:29,978 --> 00:11:31,988 that I could come to such a point -- 208 00:11:31,988 --> 00:11:36,336 speaking for myself, it's made me so much better and so much kinder 209 00:11:36,336 --> 00:11:39,370 and so much more purposeful in my whole life, 210 00:11:39,370 --> 00:11:45,779 that speaking for myself, I wouldn't give it up for anything in the world." 211 00:11:45,779 --> 00:11:50,164 We live at a point when social acceptance for these and many other conditions 212 00:11:50,164 --> 00:11:51,902 is on the up and up. 213 00:11:51,902 --> 00:11:53,738 And yet we also live at the moment 214 00:11:53,738 --> 00:11:56,629 when our ability to eliminate those conditions 215 00:11:56,629 --> 00:11:59,237 has reached a height we never imagined before. 216 00:11:59,237 --> 00:12:02,381 Most deaf infants born in the United States now 217 00:12:02,396 --> 00:12:04,189 will receive Cochlear implants, 218 00:12:04,189 --> 00:12:09,004 which are put into the brain and connected to a receiver, 219 00:12:09,004 --> 00:12:14,022 and which allow them to acquire a facsimile of hearing and to use oral speech. 220 00:12:14,022 --> 00:12:18,321 A compound that has been tested in mice, BMN-111, 221 00:12:18,321 --> 00:12:23,374 is useful in preventing the action of the achondroplasia gene. 222 00:12:23,374 --> 00:12:26,119 Achondroplasia is the most common form of dwarfism, 223 00:12:26,119 --> 00:12:30,086 and mice who have been given that substance and who have the achondroplasia gene, 224 00:12:30,086 --> 00:12:32,004 grow to full size. 225 00:12:32,004 --> 00:12:34,555 Testing in humans is around the corner. 226 00:12:34,555 --> 00:12:36,811 There are blood tests which are making progress 227 00:12:36,811 --> 00:12:42,306 that would pick up Down syndrome more clearly and earlier in pregnancies than ever before, 228 00:12:42,306 --> 00:12:47,535 making it easier and easier for people to eliminate those pregnancies, 229 00:12:47,550 --> 00:12:48,870 or to terminate them. 230 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:53,537 And so we have both social progress and medical progress. 231 00:12:53,537 --> 00:12:55,389 And I believe in both of them. 232 00:12:55,389 --> 00:12:59,444 I believe the social progress is fantastic and meaningful and wonderful, 233 00:12:59,444 --> 00:13:02,540 and I think the same thing about the medical progress. 234 00:13:02,540 --> 00:13:06,903 But I think it's a tragedy when one of them doesn't see the other. 235 00:13:06,903 --> 00:13:08,974 And when I see the way they're intersecting 236 00:13:08,974 --> 00:13:11,188 in conditions like the three I've just described, 237 00:13:11,188 --> 00:13:14,838 I sometimes think it's like those moments in grand opera 238 00:13:14,838 --> 00:13:17,442 when the hero realizes he loves the heroine 239 00:13:17,442 --> 00:13:21,889 at the exact moment that she lies expiring on a divan. 240 00:13:21,889 --> 00:13:24,688 (Laughter) 241 00:13:24,688 --> 00:13:28,570 We have to think about how we feel about cures altogether. 242 00:13:28,570 --> 00:13:31,436 And a lot of the time the question of parenthood is, 243 00:13:31,436 --> 00:13:33,288 what do we validate in our children, 244 00:13:33,288 --> 00:13:35,040 and what do we cure in them? 245 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,211 Jim Sinclair, a prominent autism activist, said, 246 00:13:39,211 --> 00:13:43,865 "When parents say 'I wish my child did not have autism,' 247 00:13:43,865 --> 00:13:48,724 what they're really saying is 'I wish the child I have did not exist 248 00:13:48,724 --> 00:13:52,743 and I had a different, non-autistic child instead.' 249 00:13:52,743 --> 00:13:57,535 Read that again. This is what we hear when you mourn over our existence. 250 00:13:57,535 --> 00:14:00,737 This is what we hear when you pray for a cure -- 251 00:14:00,737 --> 00:14:02,642 that your fondest wish for us 252 00:14:02,642 --> 00:14:05,021 is that someday we will cease to be 253 00:14:05,021 --> 00:14:10,576 and strangers you can love will move in behind our faces." 254 00:14:10,576 --> 00:14:13,642 It's a very extreme point of view, 255 00:14:13,642 --> 00:14:17,771 but it points to the reality that people engage with the life they have 256 00:14:17,771 --> 00:14:22,336 and they don't want to be cured or changed or eliminated. 257 00:14:22,336 --> 00:14:25,556 They want to be whoever it is that they've come to be. 258 00:14:25,556 --> 00:14:29,356 One of the families I interviewed for this project 259 00:14:29,356 --> 00:14:34,610 was the family of Dylan Klebold who was one of the perpetrators of the Columbine massacre. 260 00:14:34,610 --> 00:14:37,405 It took a long time to persuade them to talk to me, 261 00:14:37,405 --> 00:14:40,169 and once they agreed, they were so full of their story 262 00:14:40,169 --> 00:14:41,868 that they couldn't stop telling it. 263 00:14:41,868 --> 00:14:44,485 And the first weekend I spent with them -- the first of many -- 264 00:14:44,485 --> 00:14:47,606 I recorded more than 20 hours of conversation. 265 00:14:47,606 --> 00:14:49,869 And on Sunday night, we were all exhausted. 266 00:14:49,869 --> 00:14:52,755 We were sitting in the kitchen. Sue Klebold was fixing dinner. 267 00:14:52,755 --> 00:14:55,276 And I said, "If Dylan were here now, 268 00:14:55,276 --> 00:14:58,121 do you have a sense of what you'd want to ask him?" 269 00:14:58,121 --> 00:15:00,489 And his father said, "I sure do. 270 00:15:00,489 --> 00:15:04,038 I'd want to ask him what the hell he thought he was doing." 271 00:15:04,038 --> 00:15:07,676 And Sue looked at the floor, and she thought for a minute. 272 00:15:07,676 --> 00:15:09,855 And then she looked back up and said, 273 00:15:09,855 --> 00:15:13,918 "I would ask him to forgive me for being his mother 274 00:15:13,918 --> 00:15:18,342 and never knowing what was going on inside his head." 275 00:15:18,342 --> 00:15:21,310 When I had dinner with her a couple of years later -- 276 00:15:21,310 --> 00:15:23,237 one of many dinners that we had together -- 277 00:15:23,237 --> 00:15:26,647 she said, "You know, when it first happened, 278 00:15:26,647 --> 00:15:30,455 I used to wish that I had never married, that I had never had children. 279 00:15:30,455 --> 00:15:33,947 If I hadn't gone to Ohio State and crossed paths with Tom, 280 00:15:33,947 --> 00:15:37,589 this child wouldn't have existed and this terrible thing wouldn't have happened. 281 00:15:37,589 --> 00:15:42,104 But I've come to feel that I love the children I had so much 282 00:15:42,104 --> 00:15:45,407 that I don't want to imagine a life without them. 283 00:15:45,407 --> 00:15:50,336 I recognize the pain they caused to others, for which there can be no forgiveness, 284 00:15:50,336 --> 00:15:53,800 but the pain they caused to me, there is," she said. 285 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,592 "So while I recognize that it would have been better for the world 286 00:15:57,592 --> 00:16:00,102 if Dylan had never been born, 287 00:16:00,102 --> 00:16:05,584 I've decided that it would not have been better for me." 288 00:16:05,584 --> 00:16:12,068 I thought it was surprising how all of these families had all of these children with all of these problems, 289 00:16:12,068 --> 00:16:15,101 problems that they mostly would have done anything to avoid, 290 00:16:15,101 --> 00:16:18,920 and that they had all found so much meaning in that experience of parenting. 291 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,121 And then I thought, all of us who have children 292 00:16:22,121 --> 00:16:24,813 love the children we have, with their flaws. 293 00:16:24,813 --> 00:16:29,069 If some glorious angel suddenly descended through my living room ceiling 294 00:16:29,069 --> 00:16:31,279 and offered to take away the children I have 295 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:37,873 and give me other, better children -- more polite, funnier, nicer, smarter -- 296 00:16:37,873 --> 00:16:42,978 I would cling to the children I have and pray away that atrocious spectacle. 297 00:16:42,978 --> 00:16:44,970 And ultimately I feel 298 00:16:44,970 --> 00:16:48,548 that in the same way that we test flame-retardant pajamas in an inferno 299 00:16:48,548 --> 00:16:53,020 to ensure they won't catch fire when our child reaches across the stove, 300 00:16:53,020 --> 00:16:57,088 so these stories of families negotiating these extreme differences 301 00:16:57,088 --> 00:16:59,769 reflect on the universal experience of parenting, 302 00:16:59,769 --> 00:17:03,903 which is always that sometimes you look at your child and you think, 303 00:17:03,903 --> 00:17:06,092 where did you come from? 304 00:17:06,092 --> 00:17:08,546 (Laughter) 305 00:17:08,546 --> 00:17:13,521 It turns out that while each of these individual differences is siloed -- 306 00:17:13,521 --> 00:17:16,066 there are only so many families dealing with schizophrenia, 307 00:17:16,066 --> 00:17:18,703 there are only so many families of children who are transgender, 308 00:17:18,703 --> 00:17:20,897 there are only so many families of prodigies -- 309 00:17:20,897 --> 00:17:23,181 who also face similar challenges in many ways -- 310 00:17:23,181 --> 00:17:25,871 there are only so many families in each of those categories -- 311 00:17:25,871 --> 00:17:27,303 but if you start to think 312 00:17:27,303 --> 00:17:30,869 that the experience of negotiating difference within your family 313 00:17:30,869 --> 00:17:32,899 is what people are addressing, 314 00:17:32,899 --> 00:17:36,636 then you discover that it's a nearly universal phenomenon. 315 00:17:36,636 --> 00:17:41,271 Ironically, it turns out, that it's our differences, and our negotiation of difference, 316 00:17:41,271 --> 00:17:43,699 that unite us. 317 00:17:43,699 --> 00:17:49,013 I decided to have children while I was working on this project. 318 00:17:49,013 --> 00:17:52,129 And many people were astonished and said, 319 00:17:52,129 --> 00:17:53,977 "But how can you decide to have children 320 00:17:53,977 --> 00:17:58,083 in the midst of studying everything that can go wrong?" 321 00:17:58,083 --> 00:18:01,313 And I said, "I'm not studying everything that can go wrong. 322 00:18:01,313 --> 00:18:04,404 What I'm studying is how much love there can be, 323 00:18:04,404 --> 00:18:09,129 even when everything appears to be going wrong." 324 00:18:09,129 --> 00:18:14,764 I thought a lot about the mother of one disabled child I had seen, 325 00:18:14,764 --> 00:18:18,536 a severely disabled child who died through caregiver neglect. 326 00:18:18,536 --> 00:18:21,346 And when his ashes were interred, his mother said, 327 00:18:21,346 --> 00:18:29,380 "I pray here for forgiveness for having been twice robbed, 328 00:18:29,380 --> 00:18:35,436 once of the child I wanted and once of the son I loved." 329 00:18:35,436 --> 00:18:40,072 And I figured it was possible then for anyone to love any child 330 00:18:40,072 --> 00:18:42,604 if they had the effective will to do so. 331 00:18:42,604 --> 00:18:47,629 So my husband is the biological father of two children 332 00:18:47,629 --> 00:18:50,390 with some lesbian friends in Minneapolis. 333 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:56,214 I had a close friend from college who'd gone through a divorce and wanted to have children. 334 00:18:56,214 --> 00:18:58,112 And so she and I have a daughter, 335 00:18:58,112 --> 00:19:00,323 and mother and daughter live in Texas. 336 00:19:00,323 --> 00:19:03,562 And my husband and I have a son who lives with us all the time 337 00:19:03,562 --> 00:19:05,946 of whom I am the biological father, 338 00:19:05,946 --> 00:19:09,866 and our surrogate for the pregnancy was Laura, 339 00:19:09,881 --> 00:19:12,929 the lesbian mother of Oliver and Lucy in Minneapolis. 340 00:19:12,929 --> 00:19:21,584 (Applause) 341 00:19:21,584 --> 00:19:27,048 So the shorthand is five parents of four children in three states. 342 00:19:27,048 --> 00:19:30,404 And there are people who think that the existence of my family 343 00:19:30,404 --> 00:19:35,069 somehow undermines or weakens or damages their family. 344 00:19:35,069 --> 00:19:38,697 And there are people who think that families like mine 345 00:19:38,697 --> 00:19:40,381 shouldn't be allowed to exist. 346 00:19:40,381 --> 00:19:46,036 And I don't accept subtractive models of love, only additive ones. 347 00:19:46,036 --> 00:19:49,562 And I believe that in the same way that we need species diversity 348 00:19:49,562 --> 00:19:51,813 to ensure that the planet can go on, 349 00:19:51,813 --> 00:19:56,014 so we need this diversity of affection and diversity of family 350 00:19:56,014 --> 00:20:00,695 in order to strengthen the ecosphere of kindness. 351 00:20:00,695 --> 00:20:03,065 The day after our son was born, 352 00:20:03,065 --> 00:20:07,637 the pediatrician came into the hospital room and said she was concerned. 353 00:20:07,637 --> 00:20:10,770 He wasn't extending his legs appropriately. 354 00:20:10,770 --> 00:20:13,679 She said that might mean that he had brain damage. 355 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:17,040 In so far as he was extending them, he was doing so asymmetrically, 356 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,903 which she thought could mean that there was a tumor of some kind in action. 357 00:20:20,903 --> 00:20:25,686 And he had a very large head, which she thought might indicate hydrocephalus. 358 00:20:25,686 --> 00:20:27,316 And as she told me all of these things, 359 00:20:27,316 --> 00:20:31,311 I felt the very center of my being pouring out onto the floor. 360 00:20:31,311 --> 00:20:33,654 And I thought, here I had been working for years 361 00:20:33,654 --> 00:20:36,203 on a book about how much meaning people had found 362 00:20:36,203 --> 00:20:39,736 in the experience of parenting children who are disabled, 363 00:20:39,736 --> 00:20:43,636 and I didn't want to join their number. 364 00:20:43,636 --> 00:20:46,331 Because what I was encountering was an idea of illness. 365 00:20:46,331 --> 00:20:48,581 And like all parents since the dawn of time, 366 00:20:48,581 --> 00:20:51,927 I wanted to protect my child from illness. 367 00:20:51,927 --> 00:20:55,138 And I wanted also to protect myself from illness. 368 00:20:55,138 --> 00:20:57,698 And yet, I knew from the work I had done 369 00:20:57,698 --> 00:21:01,805 that if he had any of the things we were about to start testing for, 370 00:21:01,805 --> 00:21:04,878 that those would ultimately be his identity, 371 00:21:04,878 --> 00:21:09,112 and if they were his identity they would become my identity, 372 00:21:09,112 --> 00:21:13,269 that that illness was going to take a very different shape as it unfolded. 373 00:21:13,269 --> 00:21:16,300 We took him to the MRI machine, we took him to the CAT scanner, 374 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:20,298 we took this day-old child and gave him over for an arterial blood draw. 375 00:21:20,298 --> 00:21:21,492 We felt helpless. 376 00:21:21,492 --> 00:21:22,970 And at the end of five hours, 377 00:21:22,970 --> 00:21:25,194 they said that his brain was completely clear 378 00:21:25,194 --> 00:21:28,204 and that he was by then extending his legs correctly. 379 00:21:28,204 --> 00:21:31,136 And when I asked the pediatrician what had been going on, 380 00:21:31,136 --> 00:21:35,471 she said she thought in the morning he had probably had a cramp. 381 00:21:35,471 --> 00:21:39,036 (Laughter) 382 00:21:39,036 --> 00:21:46,869 But I thought how my mother was right. 383 00:21:46,869 --> 00:21:50,364 I thought, the love you have for your children 384 00:21:50,364 --> 00:21:53,694 is unlike any other feeling in the world, 385 00:21:53,694 --> 00:21:59,858 and until you have children, you don't know what it feels like. 386 00:21:59,858 --> 00:22:02,179 I think children had ensnared me 387 00:22:02,179 --> 00:22:05,705 the moment I connected fatherhood with loss. 388 00:22:05,705 --> 00:22:07,637 But I'm not sure I would have noticed that 389 00:22:07,637 --> 00:22:13,162 if I hadn't been so in the thick of this research project of mine. 390 00:22:13,162 --> 00:22:16,394 I'd encountered so much strange love, 391 00:22:16,394 --> 00:22:20,179 and I fell very naturally into its bewitching patterns. 392 00:22:20,179 --> 00:22:26,906 And I saw how splendor can illuminate even the most abject vulnerabilities. 393 00:22:26,906 --> 00:22:30,712 During these 10 years, I had witnessed and learned 394 00:22:30,712 --> 00:22:34,204 the terrifying joy of unbearable responsibility, 395 00:22:34,204 --> 00:22:37,736 and I had come to see how it conquers everything else. 396 00:22:37,736 --> 00:22:42,037 And while I had sometimes thought the parents I was interviewing were fools, 397 00:22:42,037 --> 00:22:46,987 enslaving themselves to a lifetime's journey with their thankless children 398 00:22:46,987 --> 00:22:49,936 and trying to breed identity out of misery, 399 00:22:49,936 --> 00:22:54,572 I realized that day that my research had built me a plank 400 00:22:54,572 --> 00:22:57,986 and that I was ready to join them on their ship. 401 00:22:57,986 --> 00:22:59,803 Thank you. 402 00:22:59,803 --> 00:23:05,454 (Applause)