[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.66,0:00:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to tell you about why I became a sculptor, Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.78,0:00:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you may think that sculptors, Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.84,0:00:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, they deal with meta, they deal with objects, Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.12,0:00:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they deal with bodies, Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.08,0:00:19.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think, really, what I care about most Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.63,0:00:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is making space, and that's what I've called this talk: Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.67,0:00:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Making Space. Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.28,0:00:30.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Space that exists within us, Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.69,0:00:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and without us. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.76,0:00:36.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when I was a child, Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.93,0:00:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how many of you grew up in the '50s, Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.94,0:00:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I was sent upstairs for an enforced rest. (Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.35,0:00:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a really bad idea. I mean, after lunch, you're, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.70,0:00:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're six, and you want to go and climb a tree. Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.78,0:00:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I had to go upstairs, this tiny little room Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.67,0:00:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was actually made out of an old balcony, Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.44,0:00:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it was incredibly hot, small and light, Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.60,0:01:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had to lie there. It was ridiculous. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.01,0:01:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But anyway, for some reason, I promised myself Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.62,0:01:07.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I wasn't going to move, Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.87,0:01:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was going to do this thing that Mummy Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.81,0:01:11.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted me to do. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.74,0:01:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there I was, lying there in this tiny space, Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.41,0:01:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hot, dark, claustrophobic, matchbox-sized, behind my eyes, Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.80,0:01:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was really weird, like, after this went on Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.86,0:01:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for days, weeks, months, that space would get bigger Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.58,0:01:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and darker and cooler Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.24,0:01:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until I really looked forward to that half an hour Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.11,0:01:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of enforced immobility and rest, Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.22,0:01:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I really looked forward to going to that place Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.87,0:01:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of darkness. Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.43,0:01:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you mind if we do something completely different? Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.89,0:01:56.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we all just close our eyes for a minute? Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.93,0:01:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, this isn't going to be freaky. Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.57,0:02:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It isn't some cultic thing. (Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.20,0:02:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just, it's just, I just would like us all to go there. Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.44,0:02:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm going to do it too. We'll all be there together. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.59,0:02:09.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So close your eyes for a minute. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.43,0:02:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here we are, in a space, Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.54,0:02:20.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the subjective, collective space of the darkness of the body. Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.01,0:02:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think of this as the place of imagination, Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.06,0:02:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of potential, Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.36,0:02:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what are its qualities? Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.26,0:02:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is objectless. There are no things in it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.56,0:02:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is dimensionless. It is limitless. Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.51,0:02:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is endless. Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.10,0:02:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, open your eyes. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.65,0:02:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the space that I think sculpture -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.86,0:02:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a bit of a paradox, sculpture that is about Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.92,0:02:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making material propositions -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.27,0:03:01.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think that's the space Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.39,0:03:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sculpture can connect us with. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.06,0:03:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, imagine we're in the middle of America. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.24,0:03:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're asleep. You wake up, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.12,0:03:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and without lifting your head from the earth Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.46,0:03:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on your sleeping bag, you can see for 70 miles. Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.90,0:03:25.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a dry lake bed. Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.15,0:03:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was young. I'd just finished art school. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.39,0:03:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to do something that was working Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.56,0:03:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directly with the world, directly with place. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.72,0:03:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was a wonderful place, because it was a place Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.78,0:03:41.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you could imagine that you were the Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.100,0:03:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first person to be there. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.33,0:03:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a place where nothing very much had happened. Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.24,0:03:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, bear with me. Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.48,0:03:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I picked up a hand-sized stone, Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.27,0:03:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,threw it as far as I was able, Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.36,0:04:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was about 22 meters. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.43,0:04:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I then cleared all the stones within that radius Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.77,0:04:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and made a pile. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.57,0:04:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was the pile, by the way. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.98,0:04:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, I stood on the pile, Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.48,0:04:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and threw all of those rocks out again, Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.34,0:04:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here is rearranged desert. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.56,0:04:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could say, well, it doesn't look very different Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.54,0:04:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from when he started. Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.66,0:04:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.86,0:04:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's all the fuss about? Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.50,0:04:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, Chris was worried and said, Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.86,0:04:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Look, don't show them that slide, Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.26,0:04:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're just going to think you're another one of Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.22,0:04:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those crazy modern artists who doesn't do much. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.88,0:04:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.25,0:04:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the fact is, this is evidence Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.96,0:04:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a living body on other bodies, Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.50,0:04:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rocks that have been the subject of geological formation, Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.34,0:05:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,erosion, the action of time on objects. Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.35,0:05:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a place, in a way, that I just Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.87,0:05:09.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would like you to, in a way, look at differently Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.35,0:05:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of this event that has happened in it, Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.02,0:05:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a human event, Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.08,0:05:18.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in general, it just asks us to look again Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.63,0:05:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at this world, so different from, in a way, Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.19,0:05:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world that we have been sharing with each other, Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.46,0:05:26.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the technological world, Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.89,0:05:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look again at the elemental world. Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.58,0:05:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The elemental world that we all live in is that space Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.29,0:05:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we all visited together, the darkness of the body. Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.68,0:05:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to start again with that environment, Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.34,0:05:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the environment of the intimate, subjective space Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.01,0:05:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that each of us lives in, but from the other side Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.84,0:05:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of appearance. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.45,0:05:57.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here is a daily activity of the studio. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.87,0:06:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see I don't do much. I'm just standing there, Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.51,0:06:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again with my eyes closed, and other people Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.24,0:06:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are molding me, evidential. Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.76,0:06:12.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is an indexical register of a lived moment Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.41,0:06:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a body in time. Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.60,0:06:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we map that space, using the language of neutrinos Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.32,0:06:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or cosmic rays, taking the bounding condition of the body Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.10,0:06:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as its limit, but in complete reversal of, in a way, Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.58,0:06:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most traditional Greek idea of pointing? Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.20,0:06:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the old days they used to take a lump of Pentelic marble Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.99,0:06:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and drill from the surface in order to identify the skin, Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.65,0:06:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the appearance, Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.10,0:06:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what Aristotle defined as the distinction Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.36,0:06:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between substance and appearance, Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.38,0:06:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the thing that makes things visible, Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.45,0:06:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but here we're working from the other side. Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.51,0:06:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or can we do it as an exclusive membrane? Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.55,0:07:05.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a lead case made around the space Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.51,0:07:08.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that my body occupied, but it's now void. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.97,0:07:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a work called "Learning To See." Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.85,0:07:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a bit of, well, we could call it night, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.13,0:07:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could call it the 96 percent of gravity Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.58,0:07:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we don't know about, dark matter, Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.14,0:07:30.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,placed in space, anyway, another version of a human space Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.69,0:07:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in space at large, but I don't know if you can see, Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.60,0:07:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the eyes are indicated, they're closed. Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.67,0:07:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called "Learning To See" because it's about an object Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.13,0:07:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that hopefully works reflexively and talks about that Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.46,0:07:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vision or connection with the darkness of the body Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.28,0:07:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I see as a space of potential. Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.26,0:07:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we do it another way, using the language Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.33,0:08:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of particles around a nucleus, and talk about the body Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.52,0:08:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an energy center? Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.45,0:08:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No longer about statues, no longer having to take that Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.51,0:08:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,duty of standing, the standing of a human body, Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.57,0:08:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the standing of a statue, release it, Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.90,0:08:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allow it to be an energy field, a space in space Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.16,0:08:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that talks about human life, between becoming an entropy Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.98,0:08:29.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a sort of concentration of attention, Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.72,0:08:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a human place of possibility in space at large. Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.79,0:08:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there another way? Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.56,0:08:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dark matter now placed against a horizon. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.66,0:08:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If minds live in bodies, if bodies live in clothes, Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.70,0:08:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then in rooms, and then in buildings, Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.83,0:08:57.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then in cities, do they also have a final skin, Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.53,0:09:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is that skin perceptual? Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.16,0:09:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The horizon. Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.79,0:09:05.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And is art about Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.29,0:09:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to imagine what lies beyond the horizon? Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.23,0:09:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we use, in a way, a body as an empty catalyst Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.85,0:09:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a kind of empathy with the experience Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.60,0:09:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of space-time as it is lived, as I am standing here Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.95,0:09:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in front of you trying to feel and make a connection Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.34,0:09:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this space-time that we are sharing, Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.65,0:09:42.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can we use, at it were, the memory of a body, Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.21,0:09:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a human space in space to catalyze Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.03,0:09:48.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an experience, again, firsthand experience, Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.75,0:09:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of elemental time. Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.76,0:09:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Human time, industrial time, tested against Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.28,0:09:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time of the tides, in which these memories Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.28,0:10:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a particular body, that could be any body, Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.24,0:10:09.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multiplied as in the time of mechanical reproduction, Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.13,0:10:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many times, placed over three square miles, Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.52,0:10:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a mile out to sea, Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.17,0:10:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disappearing, in different conditions of day and night. Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.52,0:10:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see this work. It's on the mouth of the Mersey, Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.79,0:10:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just outside Liverpool. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.95,0:10:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there you can see what a Liverpool sea looks like Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.42,0:10:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a typical afternoon. Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.24,0:10:36.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pieces appear and disappear, Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.94,0:10:39.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but maybe more importantly -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.01,0:10:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is just looking north from the center of the installation -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.94,0:10:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they create a field, a field that involves Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.28,0:10:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,living and the surrogate bodies in a kind of relation, Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.04,0:10:57.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a relation with each other and a relation with that limit, Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.100,0:11:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the edge, the horizon. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.74,0:11:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just moving on, is it possible, Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.25,0:11:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking that idea of mind, body, body-building, Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.93,0:11:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to supplant the first body, Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.34,0:11:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the biological body, with the second, Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.32,0:11:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the body of architecture and the built environment. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.23,0:11:21.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a work called "Room for the Great Australian Desert." Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.82,0:11:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's in an undefined location Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.44,0:11:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've never published where it is. Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.52,0:11:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an object for the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.41,0:11:31.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think of it as a 21st-century Buddha. Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.83,0:11:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, the darkness of the body, Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.76,0:11:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now held within this bunker shape Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.83,0:11:40.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the minimum position that a body needs to occupy, Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.31,0:11:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a crouching body. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.43,0:11:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a hole at the anus, penis level. Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.41,0:11:48.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are holes at ears. There are no holes at the eyes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.15,0:11:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a slot for the mouth. It's two and a half inches thick, Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.40,0:11:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concrete with a void interior. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.74,0:11:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, a site found with a completely flat Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.93,0:12:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,360-degree horizon. Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.62,0:12:07.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is just simply asking, again, Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.95,0:12:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if we had arrived for the first time, Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.54,0:12:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is the relationship of the human project Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.67,0:12:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to time and space? Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.78,0:12:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Taking that idiom of, as it were, Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.36,0:12:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the darkness of the body transferred to architecture, Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.35,0:12:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you use architectural space not for living Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.92,0:12:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as a metaphor, Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.64,0:12:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and use its systolic, diastolic Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.42,0:12:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smaller and larger spaces to provide a kind of Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.23,0:12:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,firsthand somatic narrative for a journey through space, Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.91,0:12:52.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,light and darkness? Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.20,0:12:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a work of some proportion and some weight Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.72,0:13:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that makes the body into a city, an aggregation of cells Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.61,0:13:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are all interconnected Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.02,0:13:09.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that allow certain visual access Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.85,0:13:12.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at certain places. Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.65,0:13:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last work that I just wanted to share with you Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.36,0:13:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is "Blind Light," which is perhaps Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.16,0:13:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most open work, Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.42,0:13:28.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in a conference of radical openness, Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.55,0:13:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think maybe this is as radical as I get, Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.56,0:13:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using light and water vapor as my materials. Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.82,0:13:39.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is a box Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.21,0:13:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,filled at one and a half atmospheres of atmospheric pressure, Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.75,0:13:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a cloud and with very bright light. Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.79,0:13:50.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you walk towards the ever-open threshold, Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.21,0:13:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you disappear, both to yourselves and to others. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.12,0:14:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you hold your hand out in front of you, Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.28,0:14:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't see it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.13,0:14:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look down, you can't see your feet. Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.40,0:14:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are now consciousness without an object, Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.40,0:14:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freed from the dimensionful Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.30,0:14:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and measured way in which life links us Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.18,0:14:25.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the obligatory. Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.27,0:14:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this is a space that is actually filled with people, Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.25,0:14:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disembodied voices, Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.22,0:14:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and out of that ambient environment, Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.33,0:14:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when people come close to your own body zone, Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.26,0:14:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very close, they appear to you as representations. Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.32,0:14:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they appear close to the edge, Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.54,0:14:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are representations, representations in which Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.13,0:14:54.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the viewers have become the viewed. Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.100,0:15:00.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, art is not about objects of high monetary exchange. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.85,0:15:06.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about reasserting our firsthand experience Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.25,0:15:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in present time. Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.14,0:15:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As John Cage said, Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.58,0:15:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We are not moving towards some kind of goal. Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.67,0:15:22.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are at the goal, and it is changing with us. Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.35,0:15:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If art has any purpose, it is to open our eyes to that fact." Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.79,0:15:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much. Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.83,0:15:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)