[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's time for Windows weekly with Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.28,0:00:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul Thurrott and Mary-Jo Foley. Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.46,0:00:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft wants you for life, Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.66,0:00:08.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their ready to kill the nag screen. Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.69,0:00:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul is excited for the new Xbox and Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.75,0:00:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mary-Jo talks about Microsoft's Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.72,0:00:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bad cloud day. Window's Weekly is next. Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.08,0:00:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Pulse wave sounds) Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.56,0:00:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Twit Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.35,0:00:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bandwidth for Windows Weekly is provided Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.100,0:00:35.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by CacheFly at cachefly.com Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.95,0:00:43.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Window's Weekly with Paul Thurrott Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.31,0:00:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Mary-Jo Foley. Episode 484, recorded Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.18,0:00:50.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,September 21, 2016 Microsoft for life! Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.49,0:00:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Window's Weekly is literately brought to Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.91,0:00:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you by Sonic, with 10 gig fiber internet Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.18,0:00:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,service provider. 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Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.23,0:01:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by Audible.com to download a free Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.06,0:01:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,audio book of your choice go to Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.14,0:01:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,www.audible.com/windows Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.27,0:01:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.92,0:01:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rocket Mortgage brings the \Nmortgage process Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.01,0:01:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the 21st century with a fast, easy Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.24,0:01:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and completely online process. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.46,0:01:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Check out Rocket Mortgage today at Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.44,0:01:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,www.quickenloans.com/windows Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.54,0:01:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's time for Windows weekly with \NPaul Thurrott and Mary-Jo Foley. Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.54,0:01:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Father Robert Ballecer in for \NLeo Laporte Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.01,0:01:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is currently looking for the answers Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.32,0:01:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to life, the universe and everything Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.41,0:01:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,acrossed the pond. Of course Paul Thurrott Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.45,0:01:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the guru behind Thurrott.com the Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.50,0:01:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,previewer of news, reviews and analyzes Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.64,0:01:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for tech enthusiasts. Mary-Jo Foley the Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.71,0:01:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mastermind behind ZDnet All About Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.90,0:01:58.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft blog. Together their here to Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.13,0:02:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bring a light to the deep cave of Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.64,0:02:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft news, like a over charged light Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.79,0:02:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bulb battery exploding in the darkness. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.92,0:02:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul, Mary-Jo so good to have ya. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.62,0:02:11.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) thanks for having (Paul) It's \Nlike your introducing Bond villains there. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.39,0:02:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) I know I was like Wow! Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.96,0:02:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The masterminds. Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.37,0:02:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Master of Disaster Mary-Jo Foley. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.33,0:02:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Father Ballecer) Do you have a cat? Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.26,0:02:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and can you do this with your fingers? Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.82,0:02:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I think I need that on a business card. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.04,0:02:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I still used business cards I would. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.12,0:02:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is one of those strange things. Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.51,0:02:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At these conventions that we go to \Nthese shows Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.84,0:02:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we all do the business card thing and Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.91,0:02:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've even got down the whole Asian thing Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.82,0:02:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of handing like this and a bit of a bow. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.50,0:02:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, um, those collect dust afterwards, Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.18,0:02:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I almost never use them. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.48,0:02:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, No! I don't even have one. Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.55,0:02:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I was going to say I think I have some, Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.60,0:02:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I've never brought them anywhere. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.40,0:02:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Wait!, You two go to shows, don't you? Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.99,0:02:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of a thing, it's how you say \Nhello, right? Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.55,0:02:57.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Well now people just say, "where can Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.69,0:02:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find you?" and I just day "All About Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.51,0:03:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft" Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.61,0:03:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Mary-Jo and I just bump our phones Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.42,0:03:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together and say "Power twins activate." Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.36,0:03:05.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo laughs) Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.50,0:03:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, I don't know every once in a while Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.48,0:03:09.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone will hand me a business cards Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.34,0:03:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have a momentary bit of confusion, Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.46,0:03:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like I don't have one of these things, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.41,0:03:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or I don't have it with me. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.54,0:03:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know I feel, it's like a weird moment. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.65,0:03:19.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel like I need to give them something Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.73,0:03:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in return, it's like someone comes over Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.60,0:03:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a gift and you don't have anything\Nto give them. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.10,0:03:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah, that's what it is.\NI know I'm handing Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.30,0:03:28.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out cards like they are candy, but it's Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.25,0:03:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just because I want to give you something. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.33,0:03:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like thank you very much for\Nyour time, Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.39,0:03:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh, here's something, and stop talking Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.38,0:03:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to me now. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.53,0:03:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughing) yes, right! Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.87,0:03:38.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) I've met the social obligation Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.97,0:03:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Father Ballencer) And if you actually \Nwant to see Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.01,0:03:44.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where this is gonna be put up you \Ncan contact Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.23,0:03:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ma at this other wise \NI'm just gonna assume Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.32,0:03:48.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you just don't care \N(Mary-Jo) Yep (laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.54,0:03:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) I needed a resume for something, Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.72,0:03:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, like a year ago or more, I. . . Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.19,0:03:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thurrott.com, what do you mean I...? Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.39,0:04:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughing) I don't keep track of my Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.40,0:04:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accomplishments, I'm not even sure what Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.60,0:04:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would do with that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.09,0:04:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Father Ballencer) Our Field producer, Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.02,0:04:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Colene Goldstein, she's actually Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.80,0:04:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really good LinkedIn. Before she \Nhands over Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.50,0:04:14.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her card, she'll just say can I find \Nyou on Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.19,0:04:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LinkedIn and she's just \Nbuilding up this huge Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.33,0:04:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,network of all these people \Nthat she's connected Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.64,0:04:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to and she says that's far more efficient Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.69,0:04:24.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than trying to take a card and then \Nremember Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.07,0:04:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it came from and who they Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.01,0:04:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,represented six weeks ago. Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.48,0:04:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because remember a lot\Nof the people you Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.43,0:04:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meet don't actually work\Nfor that company Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.34,0:04:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they work for a PR company\Nthat represents Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.22,0:04:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the company that you are \Ntalking to. (Paul) Right. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.22,0:04:37.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you won't remember \Nwho that is unless Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.23,0:04:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you actually write it on the back of \Nthat card Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.94,0:04:40.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even then sometimes you don't remember Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.73,0:04:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I have to look at the lower third to\Nremember Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.52,0:04:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mary-jo's name. (laughing) you know I'm Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.80,0:04:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really not good at that kind of thing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.74,0:04:48.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) He's bad at this thing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.30,0:04:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa. Ballencer) I have to look down here\N Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.71,0:04:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I don't see that? Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.30,0:04:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Hi! I'm Fr. Rob, What does \Nthat say? Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.89,0:05:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughing) Sir Foley, no let's not \Ndo that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.31,0:05:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll right let's get away from social \Nconvention Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.38,0:05:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cuz we've got some pretty spectacular \Nwindows news Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.93,0:05:09.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's got this first one, because\Neventually Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.43,0:05:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft has finally "oh! that's right \Nwe're not Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.91,0:05:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,offering the free version anymore, \Nmaybe we Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.73,0:05:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should kill that nag screen" Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.31,0:05:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mary-Jo - Yeah I can start it off a bit. \NUm, Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.52,0:05:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yesterday, the 20th, Microsoft put out a Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.52,0:05:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KB article that said "Hey we're finally\Ngoing to Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.52,0:05:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,push through Windows update, an update Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.26,0:05:33.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that takes away the Windows, get \NWindows 10 app. Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.94,0:05:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you remember July 29th was the \Nactual day Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.61,0:05:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the offer to get a free Windows 10 ended. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.01,0:05:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at that time they said it might\Ntake us Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.25,0:05:46.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little while to faze this out \Nbecause we've Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.30,0:05:48.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so thoroughly inundated everyone \Nwith this app Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.93,0:05:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the promotion. So actually the real Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.63,0:05:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day when this ended at least when\Nthe app ended Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.69,0:06:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was yesterday. And it's starting to roll Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.03,0:06:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the Windows update. It replaces Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.61,0:06:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the get Windows 10 app and it goes away. Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.11,0:06:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the weird complication \Nnot complication Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.36,0:06:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the weird kind of coincidence is Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.23,0:06:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can actually still get Windows 10 \Nas free upgrade Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.90,0:06:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just have to use your existing \NWindows 7 Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.90,0:06:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or 8.1 product key and you can still \Nunlock the free Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.90,0:06:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upgrade, which is something Microsoft \Nis not Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.09,0:06:28.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actively advertising, but Paul has been \Nverifying it daily. Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.49,0:06:29.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) well weekly Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.78,0:06:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) I've been asking him \Nis it still up Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.64,0:06:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa. Bellencer) Cuz, I was told \Nthat if you do Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.24,0:06:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the get Windows 10 thing and then \Nyou roll it Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.17,0:06:40.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back you're always set you can always \Nre-download it Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.27,0:06:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Oh! yeah, yeah this is for \Nnew installs. Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.36,0:06:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words you have never \Ndone this before Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.16,0:06:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have a key you can do a clean \NWindows 10 Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.94,0:06:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now and it would still work. Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.96,0:06:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa. Bellencer) Wait! What? That's not how Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.19,0:06:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's suppose to work. Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.52,0:06:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-jo) Yep\N(Paul) I know, and by the way Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.26,0:06:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one day it won't, I mean maybe \Nthis weekend Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.64,0:06:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the weekend after that, someday,\NI'm gonna Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.63,0:07:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wake up, I'm gonna test it and\Nit's not gonna work Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.48,0:07:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know it's just.. It's going to \Nhappen eventually. Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.36,0:07:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, um, I wrote an article about this Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.02,0:07:07.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not working probably a month ago\Nin anticipation Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.66,0:07:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of it not working and it's just \Nkept working Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.88,0:07:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the things been sitting here at \Nmy desktop since Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.14,0:07:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,August. (Fa Ballencer) So you just try and Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.12,0:07:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do an update everyday just to make \Nsure it still goes? Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.08,0:07:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) not everyday and least once a week. Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.95,0:07:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Now does this Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.09,0:07:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) Yesterday, I said to him can you Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.99,0:07:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still do it? And he's like, Yep you can! Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.64,0:07:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-So does this now increase the \Nvalue of the Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.93,0:07:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 10 upgrade, because now \Nyou can't get Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.91,0:07:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it except maybe if you know this \Nsuper secret, Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.17,0:07:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now do people actually want it? Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.79,0:07:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) I.. No.. I suppose.. \NI think the issue Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.20,0:07:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is.. Well if you wanted to save some money Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.70,0:07:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I suppose you could go buy Windows 8.1 Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.94,0:07:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,product key and you know, well you Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.98,0:07:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn't actually buy Windows 8.1 Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.91,0:07:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should say, it's possibly you can \Nbuy a copy of it Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.95,0:07:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere cheaper because nobody wants it Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.11,0:07:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anymore and than you could upgrade \Nnow for less money Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.65,0:07:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than buying Windows 10. Or maybe you just Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.20,0:08:01.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had keys for some reason, maybe a \Ncompany that has Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.39,0:08:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keys allotted or you bought the \Npackage version Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.27,0:08:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at some point, maybe you bought \Nthe Windows 7 Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.70,0:08:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family pack back in the day and you \Nonly used Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.88,0:08:10.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two of the three keys and you've got \Nan extra Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.89,0:08:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one sitting around for what ever reason. Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.95,0:08:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have a key, it will work. \NMSDN keys work Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.22,0:08:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got them from TechNet that will work. Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.28,0:08:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um, and someday it won't. So, we'll see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.34,0:08:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Microsoft won't say when they think Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.46,0:08:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it will no longer work in fact they aren't Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.53,0:08:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really publicly saying that it still works Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.26,0:08:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you ask them, they just don't answer Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.26,0:08:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you ask about this. Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.94,0:08:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I assume it's the same thing \Nthat they said Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.43,0:08:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the get Window 10 app Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.05,0:08:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it might take some time for them Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.82,0:08:47.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to shut it off. But the other \Ntheory is they Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.93,0:08:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are just leaving it open for those laggers Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.25,0:08:53.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who didn't get around to updating by \NJuly 29th Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.35,0:08:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they can say to them "You know what, \Npsst Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.74,0:08:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the way." Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.26,0:08:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It doesn't hurt anybody, I think \Nthat's the Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.40,0:09:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point that if they are people out there \Nin the world Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.80,0:09:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Windows 7 install that they've \Nnever done Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.62,0:09:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft would much rather see them be on Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.08,0:09:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 10, if they're going to do a \Nnew Windows Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.27,0:09:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,install. Why wouldn't they want that. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.18,0:09:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I can also see this heading off a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.38,0:09:16.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complaints from people who said "oh man Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.89,0:09:18.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to upgrade and I totally forgot \Nand I Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.100,0:09:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did it in August and it didn't \Nwork anymore" Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.91,0:09:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No that's not actually a valid excuse. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.91,0:09:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Well that argument would work on Aug 20. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.24,0:09:29.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know September 21st, October 21st, Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.85,0:09:32.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's starting to get to the point where Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.09,0:09:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't pretend you've been Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.52,0:09:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,procrastinating and than just forgot \NI mean, Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.99,0:09:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know at some point it's just. . . Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.52,0:09:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their just leaving it open, its fine. Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.41,0:09:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have no problem with this. Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.38,0:09:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This is actually a huge opportunity \Nfor us Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.24,0:09:49.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I know Alex has been trying to Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.37,0:09:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,update the Tri caster to Windows 10 Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.20,0:09:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Person in background) Actually Padre,\NLet me correct you Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.19,0:09:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you shouldn't run Windows update on the Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.18,0:09:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tri caster, New Tech doesn't say \Nyou should Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.96,0:09:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I really hope that nothing. . . Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.59,0:10:00.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh Crap! (Laughing) Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.73,0:10:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This is what happens, You get a \Nnag screen Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.41,0:10:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the middle of Windows weekly Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.54,0:10:08.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's oddly blocking me out entirely, Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.86,0:10:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's different (Mary-Jo) It is Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.82,0:10:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know we're going to have to live \Nwith this Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.98,0:10:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the next 20 -30 minutes because Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.34,0:10:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unfortunately, click the initiated \Nand it'll Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.10,0:10:22.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take that much time to install and Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.45,0:10:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uninstall it. (Mary-Jo) They'll see \Nus though Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.48,0:10:27.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're off to the sides. Not when you zoom Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.31,0:10:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on us, but the big picture you can see us. Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.17,0:10:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) How do I know that this \Ngraphic hasn't Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.46,0:10:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been used more gleefully on \NMacbreak weekly Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.84,0:10:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whatever morning show I'm sure you do? Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.18,0:10:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Ballencer) Uh, this weeks it's Google, Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.29,0:10:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this is actually the \Nnew title card Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.06,0:10:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Floss Weekly. Um Floss Weekly will Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.55,0:10:47.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never reserve your copy. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.23,0:10:50.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Let me just try... - Ops there you see Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.61,0:10:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do either of you still have Windows 7,\N8 & 10 Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.28,0:10:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Machines in your environment? Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.84,0:10:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) Yes, I have 7, Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.55,0:11:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Ballencer) So no 10 at all? Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.40,0:11:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) Yeah I have 10 and 7, but no 8 Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.99,0:11:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Ballencer) Really? I have 7, 8.1 \Nand 10 Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.73,0:11:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) You have all of them. Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.59,0:11:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Ballencer) Well because I mean 10 Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.58,0:11:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does still kill some of my USB devices Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.58,0:11:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so my production machines have to stay 8 Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.64,0:11:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have one laptop and that just works Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.80,0:11:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better at 7. Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.53,0:11:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) I just have the desktop I still Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.97,0:11:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use because it's just an older machine, Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.03,0:11:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Dell that I've had for awhile \NI just left Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.08,0:11:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it on 7, cuz I'm like Eh, when I need to Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.33,0:11:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,replace the machine Ill just get Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.58,0:11:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 10 machine. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.34,0:11:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) But what about all those \Ngotta have it Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.64,0:11:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apps you can't run? Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.94,0:11:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Um?! Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.22,0:11:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Ballencer) Now a quick question, Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.37,0:11:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this really did hurt Microsoft's \Nreputation, Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.89,0:11:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right? I mean Yes, That number of how Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.74,0:11:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many deployments they have of Windows 10 Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.96,0:12:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is forever going to be asterisk. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.60,0:12:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People said "Well how many of those were Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.48,0:12:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accidental upgrades or how many of those Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.56,0:12:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were installs and then rollbacks almost Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.52,0:12:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immediately. This. . Will people \Nforget this Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.49,0:12:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or will Windows 10 upgrade nag screen Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.97,0:12:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be the butt of jokes for the next two Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.15,0:12:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decades. (Paul) Honestly I think they've Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.47,0:12:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,irreparably harmed their reputation with Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.06,0:12:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this and not just Microsoft generally but Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.25,0:12:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the reputation of Windows as well. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.48,0:12:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The forced upgrade thing was a \Nhuge mistake Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.37,0:12:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on their part and a very risky gamble and Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.70,0:12:32.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the recent people aren't going to forget Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.62,0:12:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is because they came out and said we're Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.60,0:12:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to hit a billion within two to three Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.69,0:12:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years and then right before Windows the Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.86,0:12:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,windows ten free upgrade ended they said Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.85,0:12:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what we're not going to make that Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.85,0:12:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goal and so even though they did that they Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.13,0:12:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were unable to you know meet \Nthis reasonable Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.30,0:12:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goal, I thought, of reaching a billion Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.92,0:12:53.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,users in that timeframe.\N Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.33,0:12:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You know Mary Jo there's two ways to Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.12,0:12:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look at this. There's one way and \Nthis would, Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.30,0:12:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this is where Paul lines up, there Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.43,0:13:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was an executive or some marketing person Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.29,0:13:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who said you know what we want to hit a Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.20,0:13:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,billion because it sounds like a \Ngreat number. Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.02,0:13:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's just force this on people. The Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.03,0:13:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other way to think of this is that some Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.73,0:13:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engineers said you know what people Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.72,0:13:13.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will like ten if they just try it if \Nwe just Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.57,0:13:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get it on the machine they will understand Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.63,0:13:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what all the hoopla is about. Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.23,0:13:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which of those do you fall with? Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.34,0:13:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So I also, like Paul, think this was a Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.06,0:13:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,big mistake and the part that really Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.63,0:13:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of riled me the most was when Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.34,0:13:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft was taking the tack of saying Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.75,0:13:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's for users own good that were doing Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.97,0:13:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this and you know I was like wait this is Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.74,0:13:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so paternalistic How can you say what's Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.93,0:13:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for my good or my mother's good who Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.31,0:13:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accidently got Windows ten and \Nlike flipped Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.51,0:13:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out when she got it you know I just think Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.39,0:13:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that argument didn't work. I'm happy. They Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.90,0:13:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made a free upgrade available very easily Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.48,0:13:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to people but I don't think they should Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.36,0:13:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have rammed it down people's throat. \N Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.74,0:13:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's also, I don’t know \Nif it qualifies Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.98,0:14:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as ironic but, You know one of the kind of Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.17,0:14:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contracts you enter into with Microsoft Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.19,0:14:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you do install or get Windows 10 is Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.54,0:14:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're accepting a constant stream of Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.76,0:14:11.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upgrades and you really can't do anything Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.14,0:14:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an individual to prevent that from Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.99,0:14:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happening. Least not elegantly or easily Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.33,0:14:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your introduction to this new world is Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.38,0:14:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft seamlessly and inelegantly Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.92,0:14:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jamming Windows 10 down your throat Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.87,0:14:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know it's it's kind of a nasty preview Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.51,0:14:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what the future holds for you when you Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.73,0:14:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do this and it's just the wrong first step Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.04,0:14:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know to resent, it was a \Nterrible mistake Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.04,0:14:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah and then the hiding of the way Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.04,0:14:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you would actually accept the upgrade Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.83,0:14:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people were closing the window. Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.28,0:14:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was really bad. That made like a bad Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.11,0:14:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situation worse. So yeah not a good look. Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.11,0:14:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- In writing about this topic today Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.19,0:14:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decided not to go back and hit on every Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.74,0:14:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,single little milestone in this because Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.08,0:15:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,frankly it's kind of depressing. Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.04,0:15:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, when you go back to look at the Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.03,0:15:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sheer amount of stuff that both of us I'm Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.42,0:15:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure have written about this get \NWindows 10 Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.51,0:15:09.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing since last year and the various ways Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.83,0:15:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they changed it silently some Windows Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.14,0:15:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Update, or group of Windows Updates would Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.36,0:15:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go out, some of them would prevent the Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.20,0:15:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blockers from, you know or the un-blockers Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.56,0:15:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess from you know working. Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.67,0:15:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of them would change the way the Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.60,0:15:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dialog looked or worked. You know in the Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.68,0:15:26.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,past when you close the window, it would Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.99,0:15:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just go away but at one point when you\N Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.33,0:15:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,close the window you silently \Nhave accepted Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.49,0:15:35.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the upgrade and that's purposefully evil. Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.29,0:15:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's terrible. Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.48,0:15:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-For me I think that hurt more \Nthan anything Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.71,0:15:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else because I understand wanting to Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.98,0:15:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,force out the update. Especially since Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.16,0:15:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they believe it's going to be much more Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.90,0:15:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,secure, it's going to be much more feature Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.95,0:15:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rich. But the fact that they kept playing Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.53,0:15:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cat and mouse with people who just didn't Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.38,0:15:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to be nagged anymore. That's the Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.53,0:15:59.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reputation strike it's like ok \Nif I went to Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.03,0:16:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the trouble of removing that nag screen Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.32,0:16:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then obviously I'm a savvy user if I can Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.63,0:16:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do that. So the fact that you're trying to Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.89,0:16:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work around what I did. Now I feel as if Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.51,0:16:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're playing Microsoft nanny state. Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.87,0:16:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Right -Yeah, yeah Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.32,0:16:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of times you know they keep saying Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.07,0:16:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what, we're letting people get Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.64,0:16:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around it, if they go in and edit the Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.83,0:16:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,registry settings. I'm like, wait a second Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.99,0:16:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hold on, that's not something most people Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.46,0:16:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should do. In fact, probably very few Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.68,0:16:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should do it. And so when that was Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.75,0:16:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like “Hey were giving you an alternative Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.19,0:16:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get out of it. I was like uh, that's Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.20,0:16:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not a good option. Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.66,0:16:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-That's not an alternative. Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.36,0:16:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–No Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.22,0:16:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I mean the funny thing they get looking Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.75,0:16:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back over a year of articles \Nfor this topic. Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.72,0:16:45.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I reminded myself of was in late June Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.37,0:16:48.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one month before the free offer ended. Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.54,0:16:51.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They finally added something to that Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.29,0:16:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,box that said I don't want this please Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.42,0:16:55.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stop asking me. It took them eleven of Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.73,0:16:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the twelve months to get to that point. Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.63,0:17:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how it should have been on day one. Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.01,0:17:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know it's just uh, you just can't Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.44,0:17:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recover from this. We don't know, we may Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.96,0:17:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never know the psychological impact that Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.04,0:17:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had on what may or may not have been Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.51,0:17:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very good to Microsoft customers that day, Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.63,0:17:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who upon looking for a new computer at Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.86,0:17:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some time in the future may decide they Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.58,0:17:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need, they are going to get a pro book Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.88,0:17:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead or a mac book or well probably not Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.65,0:17:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Linux computer that's crazy. \NBut you know Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.78,0:17:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I'm saying. That they're \Ngoing to look Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.76,0:17:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at an iPad even or something, whatever. Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.46,0:17:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And just make that decision because they Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.72,0:17:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't want to be harassed which is a Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.53,0:17:38.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely reasonable request. You know. Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.78,0:17:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Let's close the book on this bad chapter. Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.96,0:17:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Yeah, yeah I think so. Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.73,0:17:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not a mulligan but it's since you say Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.03,0:17:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK you know what, you kind of hit some Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.34,0:17:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the numbers you wanted not the big one Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.38,0:17:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but now actually show us that our faith in Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.76,0:17:57.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you is not misplaced. But to be fair, we Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.13,0:17:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could look at other companies in the Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.62,0:18:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry, like Google that are doing the Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.87,0:18:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same sort of strong arm tactics. Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.90,0:18:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Google right now is making a big push for Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.19,0:18:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HTTPS, they want everything to be encypted Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.53,0:18:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end to end on the internet, that's a good Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.84,0:18:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goal, but some people feel that their Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.02,0:18:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approach is heavy handed. Now, the new Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.27,0:18:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,updates to Chrome are going \Nto automatically Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.99,0:18:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mark any site that doesn't have \NHTTPS built Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.22,0:18:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into it as insecure so that little icon is Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.48,0:18:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to pop up, warning people that maybe Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.55,0:18:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they shouldn't visit the site. \NPeople think Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.36,0:18:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's heavy handed, but those looking at Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.64,0:18:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it say, "well this is ultimately going to Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.85,0:18:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lead to a better internet." you could make Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.21,0:18:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same call here. You could say "Look, Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.23,0:18:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was heavy handed, this was Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.78,0:18:39.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft being the worst of the nannies, Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.33,0:18:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a more secure OS ultimately is a Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.10,0:18:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better experience." Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.14,0:18:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-All of the goals that Microsoft had for Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.11,0:18:49.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this were valid right. Even the \Nself-serving Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.83,0:18:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ones you know, the notion that we would Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.76,0:18:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all be better off if more of us run the Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.97,0:18:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very latest version of the O. S. and we're Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.83,0:18:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always updated to be on that version would Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.15,0:19:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make us all more secure because it's less Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.07,0:19:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work for Microsoft to do to fix \Nthe problems Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.36,0:19:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, are going to occur down the road Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.54,0:19:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone benefits from that there's no. . Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.91,0:19:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't really dispute it. But the Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.76,0:19:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem is when they say \Noh good, everyone Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.45,0:19:11.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agrees? Good! \NNow you're all getting the Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.100,0:19:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new upgrade is like \Nwhoa whoa hold on a Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.70,0:19:15.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,second, you know, you mention for example Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.39,0:19:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you have U.S.B. devices\Nthat don't Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.22,0:19:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work on Windows 10. I'm sure anyone. Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.88,0:19:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listening to this has some examples of Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.10,0:19:22.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some things whatever might be, uh… Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.98,0:19:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that don't work you know or some reason Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.60,0:19:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever it may be that they couldn't Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.64,0:19:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upgrade. I mean you can't. . . I don't Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.31,0:19:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe you can I mean they \Ntried you can't Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.32,0:19:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really just jam this kind of thing down Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.43,0:19:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people's throats. Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.67,0:19:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-And for our few fruit flans in \Nthe chat room Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.87,0:19:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now. Why is it that Microsoft trying Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.94,0:19:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to force Windows 10 on people was a Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.20,0:19:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,boondoggle. Whereas another company's Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.89,0:19:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decision to remove a standard \Nport was brave? Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.68,0:19:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo laughs) Courage Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.35,0:19:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Good marketing. Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.82,0:19:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa. Ballencer) Maybe this was just Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.11,0:19:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft’s courage, and we’re all just Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.30,0:19:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,misunderstanding it. Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.82,0:20:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Uhm –Ok (Laughter) -Well OK\N Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.97,0:20:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) It was courageous of them \Nto attempt. Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.97,0:20:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa. Ballencer) It was, it was. Although Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.24,0:20:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will say something I really don't like Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.51,0:20:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the fact that they've disabled \Nsomething Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.86,0:20:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from 8 because if you do Windows stacked Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.38,0:20:18.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,side by side it's pretty seamless but if Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.55,0:20:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do one on top of the other there's Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.59,0:20:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always a hard break as you move between Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.90,0:20:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screens. In 8 you used to be able to Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.21,0:20:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disable that sticky window, you just move Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.67,0:20:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right through it. You can do the same Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.08,0:20:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,registry edit in 10 but it doesn't fix it. Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.88,0:20:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That never goes away and that's why I Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.43,0:20:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't understand that, Go figure. \NAll right. Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.75,0:20:41.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we come back. We need to talk about Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.49,0:20:43.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something a bit more cheery because we've Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.97,0:20:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've been hammering on Microsoft \Nso rather Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.34,0:20:48.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than talking about a forced \NWindows 10 update Dialogue: 0,0:20:48.19,0:20:50.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think maybe we should talk about some Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.63,0:20:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Layoffs -Yeah. (laughter)\N-Oh boy! Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.84,0:20:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Yay let’s get pumped. But first let's go Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.65,0:20:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ahead and take a moment to thank the first Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.90,0:21:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sponsor of this episode of Windows weekly. Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.47,0:21:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey folks do you worry about bandwidth Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.16,0:21:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we don't because here at the new Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.51,0:21:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eastside studio. We've got 10gig. Yeah Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.86,0:21:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly 10gig provided to us by Sonic. Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.80,0:21:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sonics 10gig fiber internet service \Nis what Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.58,0:21:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we use to get out to the Internet and in Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.97,0:21:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other words some sponsors we say the show Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.22,0:21:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was brought to you by them. This was Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.22,0:21:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally brought to you by \NSonic if you're Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.31,0:21:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching the show right now. You're Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.04,0:21:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching us over a sonic connection Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.10,0:21:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because well we just love them. Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.59,0:21:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Internet infrastructure in the Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.21,0:21:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,United States needs\Nfixing and Sonic Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.89,0:21:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understands that they're not \Njust a company Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.95,0:21:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that wants to sell you something \Nevery month. Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.10,0:21:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're a company that wants to roll out Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.25,0:21:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,service where service doesn't exist they Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.62,0:21:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deliver fast affordable internet phone and Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.76,0:21:47.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,T.V. to homes and businesses all over Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.100,0:21:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,California now their mission is to bring Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.24,0:21:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Internet freedom to all with unlimited Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.54,0:21:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uncapped Internet they deliver Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.79,0:21:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,residential and business fiber to the Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.81,0:21:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,premise networks with gigabit connectivity Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.88,0:22:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in San Francisco the North. Bay and the Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.89,0:22:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,East Bay They've got internet service that Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.04,0:22:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,includes fifteen email accounts and one Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.13,0:22:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gigabyte of storage personal web hosting Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.44,0:22:09.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a new domain and fax line service Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.43,0:22:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for those people \Nwho still need that. Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.20,0:22:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now for only $40 a month Sonic offers Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.41,0:22:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you download speeds of up to one gigabit Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.74,0:22:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's one thousand megabits per second. Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.99,0:22:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Compare that to whoever you have right Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.33,0:22:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now a home phone connection \Nwith unlimited Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.79,0:22:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,local and long distance calling \Nis included Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.86,0:22:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in all of their service \Nand switching from Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.88,0:22:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your current carrier is easy and you can Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.82,0:22:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep your existing phone number just with Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.09,0:22:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the flick of a button. Now by standing up Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.43,0:22:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for privacy, friendly and local customer Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.68,0:22:38.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support uncapped bandwidth an affordable Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.11,0:22:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pricing for all Sonic's\Ncustomer advocates Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.94,0:22:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paving the way for a better state of Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.04,0:22:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,internet access in America. As we've seen Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.45,0:22:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,throughout the industry in these last few Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.40,0:22:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years when you have a provider who is Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.60,0:22:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,willing to invest who is willing to come Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.67,0:22:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a market that was previously closed Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.60,0:22:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off who is willing to will be an advocate Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.84,0:22:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for customers. Everybody benefits and Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.91,0:23:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's why we just love our sonic service Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.46,0:23:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Join the Internet revolution today visit Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.70,0:23:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sonic.com/TWIT that’s Sonic.com/TWIT Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.12,0:23:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and receive your first month of \NSonic Internet Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.86,0:23:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and phone service for free. Plus bundle Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.38,0:23:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Dish and save $120 off your Sonic\Nbill Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.24,0:23:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,visit sonic.com/TWIT once again that's Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.90,0:23:21.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sonic.com/TWIT. And we thank Sonic Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.67,0:23:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their support of Windows Weekly. Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.43,0:23:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK this is one of these stories that it Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.15,0:23:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost feels as if a \Ncontinuation of stories Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.30,0:23:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've already covered but who Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.78,0:23:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wants to talk about the bad news for Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.96,0:23:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pink slips over at Microsoft. Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.57,0:23:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) Oh wait, can we talk about the \NSkype thing first. Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.97,0:23:42.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Bellencer) OK sure. OK You know Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.99,0:23:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what that's hold off on the super awesome Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.77,0:23:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) I mean it's related but we can Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.84,0:23:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could kind of mix it up a little. \N Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.60,0:23:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-The people getting pink slips got \Nthem over Skype. (laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.56,0:23:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) That would have been interesting Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.56,0:23:56.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Which explains why some of them Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.36,0:23:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been home. Some of them got it \Nseventeen times. (laughing) Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.38,0:24:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) Burn, burn\N(Fa Bellencer) ok Skype, let’s do Skype. Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.24,0:24:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Ok so this um, Paul should the S.M.S. \Nrelate because you, I think you've Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.24,0:24:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually looked at it, right? Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.18,0:24:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-No, well not exactly, so, Err,\Nhow do I explain this, Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.18,0:24:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but earlier this year Microsoft announced\Na feature that was going to come Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.19,0:24:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Windows 10 anniversary\Nupdate called messaging everywhere Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.08,0:24:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the idea is that you have a Windows \NPhone or an Android phone Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.19,0:24:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can use your computer to send\Ntext messages and receive text messages Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.19,0:24:34.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right like you can do in a Mac if you\Nhave an iPhone as well. Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.03,0:24:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everyone was really excited about it, \Nsome insiders started testing it Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.67,0:24:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then very late in the game they said\Nyou know what. Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.46,0:24:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually we're not going to put\Nthis in Windows 10. Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.90,0:24:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This makes more sense for Skype\Nwe'll put it in the Skype preview app Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.14,0:24:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but sometime later in the year they \Nyanked it out of Windows 10 Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.16,0:24:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some people were disappointed you \Nknow because they were using it Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.26,0:24:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you know I think we can agree that\Na messaging feature makes more sense for Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.26,0:25:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft's messaging solution than it \Ndoes for Windows specifically so Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.07,0:25:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's going to be part of Skype. So\Nin the most recent Windows insider build Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.60,0:25:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was released last week I think \NMicrosoft's added this feature in for Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.60,0:25:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first time and now they're calling it\NS.M.S. relay actually been calling Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.20,0:25:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about for some time but it's a slightly \Nmore technical and less interesting name Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.01,0:25:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the functionality is supposed to work \Nthe same way in this initial version Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.73,0:25:22.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however you need to have the latest fast \Nring version of Windows 10 from Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.73,0:25:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,windows insiders. I think 14 9 23 or \Nsomething like that. And you also need Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.41,0:25:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have that same build on Windows 10 \Nmobile it only works on those two systems Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.02,0:25:36.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I have both of these things \Nbut I couldn't get it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.03,0:25:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not seeing it on my phone \NI don't know why. Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.37,0:25:43.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the idea again is that you can from \Nthe Skype preview app on Windows 10 Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.47,0:25:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for P.C.'s send and receive text messages\Nand so if your phone is over the corner Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.20,0:25:52.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,charging somebody sends you a text message\Nyou get a notification on your P.C. Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.22,0:25:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,click on it you can reply to it right \Nthere. It sends out over your phone Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.22,0:25:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you would expect so it's coming. \N Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.48,0:26:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it will come as part of Skype, right?\NSo we won't have Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.20,0:26:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to wait for the next major version\Nof Windows 10 to get it.\N Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.26,0:26:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which by the way is another one of \Nthe advantages of putting it on Skype. Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.38,0:26:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You know what's weird though I think I \Nmessaged you about this that I have an Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.23,0:26:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Android phone. I have a Windows 10 P.C. \Nand I am seeing my text messages Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.23,0:26:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from my phone show up on my Windows 10 \NP.C. and I'm not on Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.23,0:26:26.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the insider program right! \N–Which is really interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.24,0:26:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah, So I think it's because of Cortana \Nthough because I have Cortana on both Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.24,0:26:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I believe that also gives you some of \Nthat functionality but that then Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.25,0:26:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like OK So is this in the future \Ngoing to be taken out of Cortana? Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.72,0:26:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yes so, right. Actually it's kind of \Nconfusing because this is hum, Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.80,0:26:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wrote a book about Windows 10 that I'm\Nstill updating for the anniversary update Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.37,0:26:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of the things I put off literally\Nto the very end that I will wrote right Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.37,0:26:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the last of all the new content is \Nphone integration because it's actually a Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.61,0:27:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little convoluted there are three ways \Nright now that you can get information Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.55,0:27:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back and forth from your phone through \NWindows 10 as I understand it. One is this Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.55,0:27:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new S.M.S. relay feature in the Skype\Npreview. One is the thing you're seeing Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.55,0:27:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the Cortana integration but \Nthere's also like a Windows phone Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.93,0:27:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,integration I will get Windows Phone \Nnotifications in Action Center on Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.64,0:27:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 10 that are notifications that\Ncame from Windows 10 in the phone and so Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.64,0:27:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they could be about anything it will be \Nlike Facebook updates. Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.29,0:27:30.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know different things from different \Napps on the phone and those things will Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.29,0:27:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually surface in Windows 10 of my P.C. \N Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.29,0:27:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well. So I'm still trying to kind of.. Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.66,0:27:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where and how all these things happen\Nand why you know it's interesting I have Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.66,0:27:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three different phones, so I have and \NAndroid phone like you do and I have the Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.66,0:27:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows Phone and also an iPhone\NSo the iPhone doesn't really do anything Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.09,0:27:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the expectation is that you'll have a \Npretty decent level of functionality Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.80,0:27:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through Android if you have Windows 10\Nand then obviously if you have Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.04,0:27:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 10 mobile you would have\Nthe best experience Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.49,0:28:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because those two things would\Nbe tightly integrated. Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.44,0:28:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You know that's something in a \Nfeature I actually would really like Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.69,0:28:08.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something in Windows that shows me how\Nthe various services integrate because Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.69,0:28:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's always an crapshoot for me about what\Nnotifications I get on what devices like Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.69,0:28:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you I've got I.O.'s devices I've got \NWindows devices I've got Android I think Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.25,0:28:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows Mobile and it always, I’m never\Nreally sure what is syncing and what's not Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.36,0:28:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-It's like a roulette wheel and I just was\Nspeaking Skype specifically, this morning Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.53,0:28:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was chatting with Brad on Skype & we're\Nyou know we're texting back and forth Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.53,0:28:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he writes, I write you know five minutes \Ngoes by, 15 minutes and all of a sudden Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.54,0:28:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of my three phones in this case it \Nwas my iPhone the screen lights up and Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.80,0:28:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I look over and it's a Skype notification\Nof something. Brad had written me on Skype Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.50,0:28:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about two minutes earlier. And so for\Nsome reason that one version of the app Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.81,0:28:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on that one phone lit up. It was like all\Nmy devices or weight are in the back and Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.20,0:28:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of those are like I got it. I got it, Dialogue: 0,0:28:59.21,0:29:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it just kind of like I'm having an \N Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.16,0:29:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,active conversation in Skype on Windows. Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.69,0:29:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know why? Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.56,0:29:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why would these other \Nthings? You know how it is, if I go to my Dialogue: 0,0:29:11.95,0:29:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Android phone and I turn them on right \Nnow and I go into Skype. You know thus Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.09,0:29:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,waking it up which is a mistake. It's like\NJason from Friday the 13th or something Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.09,0:29:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if I do wake it up briefly it will \Nflash those one two three conversations Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.11,0:29:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are marked unread the conversations\NI had earlier with Brad actually this one Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.12,0:29:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Twit and the conversations I had \Nwith Mary Jo according to this version of Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.35,0:29:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the app these conversations are unread.\N Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.47,0:29:45.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I know, that happens to me too. Yet when \NI when I've had my Windows 10 Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.23,0:29:49.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,laptop off for a while I turn on you know \Nthey all the messages filtered through Dialogue: 0,0:29:49.25,0:29:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then some show up as unread \Nand some show up as read. Dialogue: 0,0:29:52.94,0:29:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yep. Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.67,0:29:57.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-So I'm not sure what makes \Nboth of those things happen. Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.71,0:30:02.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah I ended up going into Windows 10 \Nnotification I just turning off everything Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.08,0:30:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was so tired of \Nreceiving the same notifications 15 times Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.12,0:30:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yep Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.65,0:30:14.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Actually there's something else that I\Ndo love the syncing across accounts Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.47,0:30:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that actually does work nicely except\Nfor the fact that at home. I've got this Dialogue: 0,0:30:18.22,0:30:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,monster set up with two 4K. monitors\Nand a bunch of little monitors around the Dialogue: 0,0:30:22.24,0:30:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,periphery and it tries to import those \Npreferences into my laptop and it doesn't Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.51,0:30:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matter how many times I tell it not to do\Nthat it. There's always an update in the, Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.56,0:30:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the switch gets turned back on & suddenly\Nall the text on my laptop is tiny. Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.58,0:30:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's adjusting with what it thinks\NI want to the desktop, which that's again Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.59,0:30:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want some sort of central control panel\Nthat shows all my devices and which Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.35,0:30:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,settings are moving between which devices.\NIt sounds like that's an absolute Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.41,0:30:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessity now with all the different\Ndevices that we use. And with all the Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.41,0:30:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,syncing that Microsoft trying to build\Ninto the products. That's a necessity. Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.86,0:31:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah you know obviously Microsoft doesn't\Nhave a big presence slash Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.58,0:31:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any presence in Mobile and so one of the \Nconcerns that they have that maybe Apple Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.12,0:31:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't have and Google only has to a \Nlesser extent say with IOS Devices is the Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.32,0:31:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cross-platform stuff you know Bart W on \NTwitter's ask Mary-Jo and I if S.M.S. Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.34,0:31:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relay is coming to the Skype apps on IOS\Nand Android as Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.91,0:31:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well and it's a reasonable expectation\Nthat it would but Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.59,0:31:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know of course on Android you have\Na Microsoft has a Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.36,0:31:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much easier way of getting into the\Nsystem and making Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.92,0:31:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this more seamless whereas in IOS, \Nif you think about how Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.05,0:31:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cortana works you kind of have to go \Nin and run the app Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.04,0:31:46.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some things to happen. You know it's \Nnever going to be as. . Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.09,0:31:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though it can you know, it can sort \Nof run in the background a little bit Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.97,0:31:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can never be sure that it will always\Nbe there. This is more easily done on Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.97,0:31:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Android and Windows Phone So if you… \NMary-Jo do you know off the top you head Dialogue: 0,0:31:57.97,0:32:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has Microsoft ever spoke to S.M.S relay \Non IOS Android? \N Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.58,0:32:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I don't remember them saying that. Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.08,0:32:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–It seems like it would have to the right? Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.53,0:32:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) I know it does seemed \Nlike it would have to Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.42,0:32:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-What would be the point of S.M.S relay Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.50,0:32:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Windows 10 mobile? Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.69,0:32:15.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Right. Dialogue: 0,0:32:15.59,0:32:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Mary Jo I've got an enterprise question Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.86,0:32:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you. Do we know how many versions of Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.48,0:32:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,messaging Windows has.. uh Microsoft has Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.97,0:32:25.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you've got Skype. You've got Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.37,0:32:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skype for business. You've got Skype for \N Dialogue: 0,0:32:27.45,0:32:29.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,broadcast and then you've got the link \N Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.27,0:32:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff which was actually supposed to take \N Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.23,0:32:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over for the Skype stuff but then that \N Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.44,0:32:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seems to be flipped. Now that we've got \Nthe Dela Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.85,0:32:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you see what's in the strategy going Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.54,0:32:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forward or we just keep getting fractured Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.96,0:32:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off into different types of Skype \Nand do they still have Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.65,0:32:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that artificial delineation \Nbetween consumer and enterprise? Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.52,0:32:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-They do. They still have the delineation Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.59,0:32:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is still Skype consumer and Skype Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.65,0:32:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for business are not the same product Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.48,0:32:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though they're both called Skype and \Nyou're right. Link is still kind of Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.30,0:32:58.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hanging around for some on premises Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.97,0:33:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff but ultimately Link, the Link name Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.34,0:33:03.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will totally go away and link will be Dialogue: 0,0:33:03.74,0:33:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely superseded by Skype for \Nbusiness that will happen. Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.91,0:33:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Because that was going the other way. I \Nmean Skype was going to go to go away and Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.81,0:33:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were going to keep Link and so now \Nthey've reversed on that. Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.96,0:33:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes So I think they're being pretty Dialogue: 0,0:33:15.77,0:33:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consistent on length being supplanted by \NSkype for business. Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.96,0:33:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-OK. Dialogue: 0,0:33:19.67,0:33:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I think next week which is Microsoft Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.78,0:33:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ignite we might hear some new things Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.64,0:33:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Skype for business and kind of Dialogue: 0,0:33:26.90,0:33:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where that's going because every time we Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.08,0:33:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ask Microsoft about Skype they'll answer Dialogue: 0,0:33:31.22,0:33:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skype consumer questions but they won't Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.10,0:33:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk at all about Skype for business. And Dialogue: 0,0:33:35.60,0:33:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think next week's show because it's a Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.48,0:33:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very IT pro focus show \Nwe probably will Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.34,0:33:41.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hear some new things about Skype for Dialogue: 0,0:33:41.100,0:33:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business and hopefully about how it's Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.05,0:33:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be syncing soon with OneDrive Dialogue: 0,0:33:46.42,0:33:48.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and OneDrive for business. That's Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.78,0:33:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something people are really waiting Dialogue: 0,0:33:51.06,0:33:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anxiously for and last we heard that was Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.24,0:33:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to happen in the final calendar Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.43,0:33:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quarter of this year. So we're almost in \Nthe final calendar quarter. Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.14,0:34:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seems like we should get some new\NNews on that next week. Dialogue: 0,0:34:01.87,0:34:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Wait Skype for business will sync with \NOneDrive? Dialogue: 0,0:34:04.63,0:34:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-With OneDrive for business, yes! Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.36,0:34:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-How does that.. Wait what is it syncing? Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.45,0:34:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They’ll be integration. Sorry. Am I \Nsaying OneDrive business or Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.37,0:34:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,am I thinking Share Point. \NI’m thinking about Share Point. Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.14,0:34:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-OK, OK that makes sense Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.46,0:34:18.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Sorry I'm thinking about Share Point Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.57,0:34:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I'm saying OneDrive for business but Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.70,0:34:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um, it may, Microsoft talked about Share \NPoint and OneDrive business being able to Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.04,0:34:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually have better sync across those Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.01,0:34:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two products and they said that was going Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.67,0:34:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to counter Q four and I think that's what Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.29,0:34:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we might hear about next week. But yeah Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.74,0:34:37.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know every time we ask about Skype. Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.81,0:34:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know we've heard recently that Skype Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.71,0:34:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is moving to this new kind of universal Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.66,0:34:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,next generation client and when I asked Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.93,0:34:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft you know does that also mean Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.74,0:34:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skype for businesses is going to be on Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.56,0:34:49.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that same universal client. Dialogue: 0,0:34:49.13,0:34:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said we're not really talking\Nabout Skype for Business. Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.96,0:34:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You're like whoa. Dialogue: 0,0:34:53.29,0:34:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Don't get ahead of yourself here. Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.80,0:34:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And don't forget the upcoming Skype for Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.46,0:35:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Web R.T.C. because I mean that's also Dialogue: 0,0:35:00.62,0:35:03.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another universal client and universal, \Nuniversal. Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.57,0:35:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-But we should talk about this thing that Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.58,0:35:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surfaced this week called Skype for life. \NSpeaking of . Dialogue: 0,0:35:13.39,0:35:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Oh good I was just hoping we would have \Nanother Skype. Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.34,0:35:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Speaking of Jason from Friday the 13th. \N(laughing) Dialogue: 0,0:35:19.33,0:35:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-OK what is Skype For Life? Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.83,0:35:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-OK So ARS Technica Dr Pizza over there Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.80,0:35:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got a tip from one of his sources or Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.02,0:35:31.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe multiple sources that Microsoft was Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.35,0:35:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working on a product called Skype For \NLife and he and a lot of us have first Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.35,0:35:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of thought maybe this was a name for Dialogue: 0,0:35:38.60,0:35:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the universal Skype client that would Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.92,0:35:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work across all different platforms that Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.30,0:35:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be kind of like what Microsoft has Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.79,0:35:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,described as the universal Windows Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.87,0:35:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,platform equivalent but for the other Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.05,0:35:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,platforms like IOS and Android. But then Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.25,0:35:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul dug around a little and thought it Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.51,0:35:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through and he says no but that is not \Nwhat that it is. Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.70,0:36:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-No! No Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.61,0:36:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean I talked to Peter about it. Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.06,0:36:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skype, ironically. Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.36,0:36:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't doubt that he was told this Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.70,0:36:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't doubt that the person who Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.72,0:36:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told him saw this and thought that they Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.45,0:36:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understood what they were seeing but you Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.94,0:36:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know I talked to the Skype guys back in Dialogue: 0,0:36:20.15,0:36:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,June or July about the strategy Mary Jo Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.80,0:36:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just discussed where they're moving to a Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.56,0:36:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new generation clients they have updated \N Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.88,0:36:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their back end infrastructure they Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.78,0:36:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temporarily have to maintain the old Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.08,0:36:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,P.D.P. infrastructure for certain Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.15,0:36:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applications or services but that's going Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.27,0:36:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be going away. The combination of Dialogue: 0,0:36:38.41,0:36:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these two back end services explains the Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.75,0:36:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skype reliability issues that we've all Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.23,0:36:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seen over the past you know several Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.37,0:36:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,months I was told. And I thought you Dialogue: 0,0:36:48.00,0:36:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know, Skype For Life and making yet again Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.82,0:36:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new, some new client that would somehow Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.66,0:36:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,run across all those platforms didn't Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.14,0:36:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make any sense to me and if you look at Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.64,0:37:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that next to their previously stated Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.23,0:37:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strategy it's clear to me that Skype For Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.46,0:37:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Life is just a marketing term and what Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.62,0:37:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're describing internally I think is Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.64,0:37:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the culmination of that previous existing Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.94,0:37:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strategy that the new infrastructures Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.13,0:37:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,switched over to their new clients are Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.14,0:37:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all available. They all interact and all Dialogue: 0,0:37:17.12,0:37:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have the new features and it's not that Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.99,0:37:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's one client's I mean obviously Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.73,0:37:23.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows will have P.W.P. clients, IOS and Dialogue: 0,0:37:23.03,0:37:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Android will have native apps there, Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.09,0:37:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Linux will have what they have and there Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.18,0:37:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be the web version as well. And Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.19,0:37:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these things will have some baseline of Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.52,0:37:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,functionality that works across all of Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.60,0:37:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them on this new infrastructure that's \Nthe point of it. Dialogue: 0,0:37:36.79,0:37:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You know what I'm going to still be a Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.10,0:37:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doubter here. OK I don't think, I think Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.26,0:37:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more I think about this the more I Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.40,0:37:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think you're right that it isn't a new Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.05,0:37:48.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,totally new Skype client. I think that Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.100,0:37:51.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would just be crazy and kind of going Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.43,0:37:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back to what they just got away from but Dialogue: 0,0:37:53.76,0:37:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think Skype For Life is something else Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.07,0:37:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the reason I'm thinking that it's a Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.35,0:38:01.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,marketing slogan but, maybe it's Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.33,0:38:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something like you know they call Skype Dialogue: 0,0:38:03.37,0:38:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,translator a feature of Skype like that. Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.81,0:38:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how they brand that and Skype for Dialogue: 0,0:38:08.01,0:38:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teams which is what they're going to be Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.09,0:38:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing to compete with Slack. I also think Dialogue: 0,0:38:12.11,0:38:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they'll call that a feature of Skype. I Dialogue: 0,0:38:14.08,0:38:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't think they'll call of a new version Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.20,0:38:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Skype. So I'm thinking Skype For Life Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.69,0:38:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be something like using Skype to Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.12,0:38:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,improve your life in some way. So maybe Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.46,0:38:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like I don't know I'm just I'm Dialogue: 0,0:38:25.79,0:38:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,totally reaching here but Skype like Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.03,0:38:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe Skype and the Microsoft Health Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.21,0:38:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,platforms somehow connected or you know Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.61,0:38:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skype being used for some specific thing Dialogue: 0,0:38:35.55,0:38:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's more about health and welfare and Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.95,0:38:40.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe a very specific almost like a Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.70,0:38:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vertical I'm just guessing here again but Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.33,0:38:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's something else. Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.96,0:38:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I mean that seems very far reaching. It Dialogue: 0,0:38:49.49,0:38:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be simpler that you know it's funny Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.58,0:38:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were just kind of joking around and Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.68,0:38:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slash complaining about how you know Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.80,0:38:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skype will ring on various devices and Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.45,0:39:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever because we have various devices Dialogue: 0,0:39:01.55,0:39:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're nerds and so Skype For Life Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.96,0:39:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be as simple as what I think of a \N Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.11,0:39:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skype everywhere this this feature you Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.64,0:39:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know that a normal person with a computer Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.86,0:39:13.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a phone or a tablet and a phone would Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.35,0:39:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to get messages everywhere and Dialogue: 0,0:39:15.46,0:39:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the For Life. In other words. Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.21,0:39:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever your life is whatever your Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.22,0:39:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,habits are whatever devices you choose to \Nuse Skype will be there. You know. Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.22,0:39:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-That could be Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.50,0:39:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I just you know regardless of what it is Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.93,0:39:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean I think it's mostly a marketing Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.93,0:39:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,term. Right. Not so much a product. And Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.19,0:39:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's almost just a way to describe \Nfunctionality to normal people. Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.19,0:39:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I'd be down with the marketing term. I \Nspoke with a rep a Microsoft rep over at Dialogue: 0,0:39:43.23,0:39:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,IFA in Berlin last month and or no this Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.80,0:39:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,month and of course didn't want to talk Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.54,0:39:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about it but what he was describing was Dialogue: 0,0:39:53.00,0:39:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this is Skype UC this is the unified Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.01,0:40:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communication promised the idea of we Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.07,0:40:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't want Skype to be an app. It \N Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.81,0:40:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shouldn't be something you start up it Dialogue: 0,0:40:03.62,0:40:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be something that is just Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.48,0:40:07.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everywhere. They're using Microsoft Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.15,0:40:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,products. You should be able to say Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.88,0:40:10.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cortana call Paul Thurrott and it will Dialogue: 0,0:40:10.95,0:40:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,automatically kick out Skype and it Dialogue: 0,0:40:13.48,0:40:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't even call a Skype it just Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.64,0:40:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connects. Hum, and I can see that I mean Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.58,0:40:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that UC promises has been something Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.49,0:40:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's been around for ten years maybe Dialogue: 0,0:40:21.31,0:40:23.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is Microsoft finally saying let's do. Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.67,0:40:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Or saying we finally have enough pieces Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.01,0:40:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in place for it makes sense right. I mean Dialogue: 0,0:40:28.17,0:40:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even the things like integrating Skype Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.41,0:40:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into Outlook.com and OneDrive.com on the Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.84,0:40:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,web or the Outlook 2016 Mail clients in Dialogue: 0,0:40:36.84,0:40:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,office 2016 which you know depending on Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.84,0:40:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your view of things you might find Dialogue: 0,0:40:42.72,0:40:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incredibly useful or incredibly annoying Dialogue: 0,0:40:45.62,0:40:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it certainly on the web, they Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.92,0:40:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't do a good job with that but Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.81,0:40:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that these things are all part of Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.24,0:40:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… how do you describe a bunch of little Dialogue: 0,0:40:55.23,0:40:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things? It's a.. what's the theme? You Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.09,0:41:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know universal communications is how we Dialogue: 0,0:41:00.89,0:41:03.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would say it in the enterprise and maybe Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.25,0:41:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skype For Life is how they want to say it \Nto people. Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.91,0:41:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You know what Padre just gave me a crazy \Nidea another crazy idea. Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.50,0:41:10.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Oh good Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.79,0:41:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-What if Skype For Life is a bot? Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.44,0:41:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Oh Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.11,0:41:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Now they’re intergrading more bots into Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.70,0:41:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skype right and there's been all this Dialogue: 0,0:41:20.80,0:41:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about a concierge bot that Bing was Dialogue: 0,0:41:23.01,0:41:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working on for a while to be kind of like Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.11,0:41:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your personal assistant for life. You Dialogue: 0,0:41:27.56,0:41:29.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know somebody who you could say hey what Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.71,0:41:31.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movies are playing can you get me some Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.98,0:41:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tickets. Maybe this is Skype For Life? Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.00,0:41:36.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-But then Skype for life would have to \Nfight Cortana to the death. Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.98,0:41:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I know. Yeah. BOTS and Cortana they... Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.54,0:41:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think they're siblings I think they're \Nfriends but yeah Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.86,0:41:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Their twins, Skype For Life is the twin Dialogue: 0,0:41:45.22,0:41:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they kept in the closet until he was a Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.46,0:41:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teenager so he’s a little stunted. Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.35,0:41:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've actually got people in the chat \N Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.41,0:41:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,room, we've got ‘hey it's Todd’ who Dialogue: 0,0:41:55.23,0:41:57.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suggested that Skype For Life is actually Dialogue: 0,0:41:57.31,0:41:59.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the name of a new form of judicial Dialogue: 0,0:41:59.51,0:42:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,punishment and then you see the really Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.43,0:42:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really bad, you only get to use Skype \N(Laughing) Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.93,0:42:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-It sounds like a big punishment. Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.92,0:42:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-And a guy could be like oh I’ve been \NSkyped. Dialogue: 0,0:42:10.92,0:42:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Should it just be Skype 10? I mean, Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.05,0:42:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cause that was the whole idea of Windows \N10. It is the last Windows you will ever Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.66,0:42:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own is this Skype 10 is it like look it \Nwill always be this way. Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.87,0:42:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-And what you're supposed to do Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.05,0:42:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything to ensure it. That’s windows. \NGod bless Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.50,0:42:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-The ultimate Skype. Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.87,0:42:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Honestly Windows 10 is a terrible name Dialogue: 0,0:42:29.15,0:42:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right. That should have just been Windows Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.18,0:42:33.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think we need to \Ngo 10 I think if Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.16,0:42:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything we should be stripping the Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.86,0:42:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,numbers off of the products \Nthat still have numbers. Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.38,0:42:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Maybe they really want it to be \NWindows X. Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.91,0:42:43.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Apple's doing that right? Apple's \Nchanging back Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.66,0:42:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-They've kind of moved to the right Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.73,0:42:47.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they still have version numbers Dialogue: 0,0:42:47.80,0:42:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously you have to have the stuff Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.59,0:42:51.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,behind the scenes but you know they talk Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.58,0:42:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the new version MacOS as Sierra. Dialogue: 0,0:42:53.53,0:42:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know and they've been doing that for Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.80,0:42:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years. I guess but they really they \N Dialogue: 0,0:42:57.59,0:42:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emphasize that you know it's a friendly Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.59,0:43:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name and I think that's a nicer approach Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.64,0:43:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than some godly book like H.P. product Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.60,0:43:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,names or version or just not version Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.92,0:43:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,numbers because numbers or even using the Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.37,0:43:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,version number the name is just it's just Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.87,0:43:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's I think that's just old fashioned Dialogue: 0,0:43:15.05,0:43:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.40,0:43:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah it's kind of I mean because you \Nhave to… Dialogue: 0,0:43:19.09,0:43:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I know especially if its the last right Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.79,0:43:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,last version of something, supposedly Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.91,0:43:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-It should have just been Windows \Nultimate, Dialogue: 0,0:43:26.08,0:43:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh wait, we've already used \Nthat. Never mind! Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.22,0:43:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Calling something the last version of Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.08,0:43:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this product is like the worst way to Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.86,0:43:33.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,market something ever invented. You know Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.97,0:43:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the last version\Nwe're ever going Dialogue: 0,0:43:35.97,0:43:37.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make a Windows. Oh know we’re gonna Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.79,0:43:39.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep updating it, but\Nthis is the last one. Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.90,0:43:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–There’ll be some serious\Nupdates to it but no, this is it. Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.61,0:43:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-So it really is just not smart mart. \N(Sigh) I'm going to be… Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.61,0:43:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\NI'm going to change my name to Padre 10. \NI will be the last Padre, you’ll ever know Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.88,0:43:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Actually if you can change it to 10.01. Dialogue: 0,0:43:56.50,0:43:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-There'll be updates to Padre, but this \Nis really the final version.\N Dialogue: 0,0:43:59.96,0:44:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) There will always be that \Nlittle hidden miss. Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.58,0:44:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary-Jo) Padre Hena-versary. Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.12,0:44:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Don't we… the Padre anniversary edition. Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.62,0:44:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's ten pounds lighter but has all the \Nfeatures. (laughing) Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.59,0:44:13.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right, we're going to bog down a bit Dialogue: 0,0:44:13.59,0:44:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too much and it is a fun story, but there Dialogue: 0,0:44:15.85,0:44:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one more story that has so much fun it Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.37,0:44:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has to be dispelled. Paul. There were Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.92,0:44:23.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people screaming all over the Internet Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.21,0:44:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Microsoft is being the big bad by Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.21,0:44:28.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to lock Linux out of new P.C.'s Is \Nthis true? Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.49,0:44:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–No! And that's all we need to say about Dialogue: 0,0:44:31.91,0:44:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that. If I could somehow make a career Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.04,0:44:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of just debunking stupidity. Right. I \Nmean I just… you get into these Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.06,0:44:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conversations of people on Twitter who Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.09,0:44:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see these stories and they.. I think it's Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.61,0:44:48.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way conspiracy theories work right. Dialogue: 0,0:44:48.81,0:44:50.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's.. it hits on your internal beliefs Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.05,0:44:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so you instantly throw common sense Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.52,0:44:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the wind and say oh course their doing Dialogue: 0,0:44:55.86,0:44:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this. Microsoft is evil. It's like guys Dialogue: 0,0:44:57.78,0:45:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not 1998 anymore it could be maybe Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.08,0:45:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upgrade the way we think about Microsoft Dialogue: 0,0:45:02.42,0:45:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their relationship with Linux in Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.21,0:45:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particular. The topic and if you don't Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.47,0:45:09.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know what it is I guess we should Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.47,0:45:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably step back a second and say that Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.56,0:45:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody had discovered that a Lenovo Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.72,0:45:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,P.C. bought from the Microsoft store so Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.08,0:45:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a signature P.C. and thus is running Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.62,0:45:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something called Windows 10 signature Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.75,0:45:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,edition which doesn't exist. Somehow has Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.35,0:45:26.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the magic capability of preventing Linux Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.77,0:45:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from ever being installed in that Dialogue: 0,0:45:28.70,0:45:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,computer. That's not a capability of an Dialogue: 0,0:45:30.60,0:45:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operating system that’s something that Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.84,0:45:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have to be built into the firmware Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.80,0:45:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess of the computer I mean I Dialogue: 0,0:45:36.98,0:45:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously there's always going to be some Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.11,0:45:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way to brute stall anything on there but Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.96,0:45:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, read it happens. There’s one of Dialogue: 0,0:45:43.17,0:45:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the guys from ZD Net wrote a very calm Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.15,0:45:47.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and collected article but anyway I Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.18,0:45:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appreciated that. But here's the thing, Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.18,0:45:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,signature P.C. is as I describe it. Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.18,0:45:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the smallest province of the Dialogue: 0,0:45:57.34,0:45:59.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,windows empire that exists in Microsoft. Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.95,0:46:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have no power at all the very notion Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.02,0:46:04.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they could require a P.C. maker to Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.51,0:46:06.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do anything is ludicrous. Let alone the Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.55,0:46:09.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world's number one P.C. maker. Microsoft Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.07,0:46:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not the business of blocking Linux. Dialogue: 0,0:46:11.92,0:46:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They never really were. But it's one of Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.45,0:46:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those things like a lot of people kind of Dialogue: 0,0:46:16.40,0:46:18.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like want to believe is the case. Some Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.43,0:46:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guy supposedly from Lenovo got into a Dialogue: 0,0:46:20.44,0:46:22.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support forum somewhere and said Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.61,0:46:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This might this is part of our agreement Dialogue: 0,0:46:24.67,0:46:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Microsoft. That's not true. By the Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.85,0:46:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way because Lenovo came out with a Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.98,0:46:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,statement and said no that's not what's Dialogue: 0,0:46:31.19,0:46:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happening. It's one of those things like Dialogue: 0,0:46:33.31,0:46:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't actually have to know the Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.99,0:46:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answer to know the answer. It's a little Dialogue: 0,0:46:36.91,0:46:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bit like the Skype For Life thing like if Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.94,0:46:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you think it through.\NIt's like this is Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.75,0:46:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not what's happening \Nand so I ... I'm not Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.70,0:46:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one that got \Nthe statement so Dialogue: 0,0:46:44.33,0:46:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's Tech Republic.\NThey've got the Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.34,0:46:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,statement but I did a write \Nup about it and uh debating it… Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.16,0:46:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-This is just secure boot on the UEFI \Nright?. I mean that's all it is. Dialogue: 0,0:46:52.51,0:46:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-It's not exactly but it's that exact Dialogue: 0,0:46:54.34,0:46:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of topic yes but Lenovo has a one Dialogue: 0,0:46:56.44,0:46:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of, it's probably just one Lenovo Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.93,0:47:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,computer actually but there is a Lenovo Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.53,0:47:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,computer that has a very strange raid Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.93,0:47:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,S.S.D. configuration and as people are Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.98,0:47:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discovering if they try to clean install Dialogue: 0,0:47:10.71,0:47:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 10 on that computer it won't work Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.01,0:47:14.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either. It's. It's a very unique Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.81,0:47:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,configuration. It's not part of a secret Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.88,0:47:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cabal with Microsoft to screw Linux users Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.98,0:47:21.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of their new computer but you know I Dialogue: 0,0:47:21.32,0:47:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think I said this to Mary Jo privately or Dialogue: 0,0:47:23.58,0:47:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe Brad we were I was chatting with Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.72,0:47:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody earlier today and so consider Dialogue: 0,0:47:27.66,0:47:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the market out there for people who are Dialogue: 0,0:47:30.06,0:47:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to buy a Windows based computer and Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.32,0:47:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,install Linux on it right and there is Dialogue: 0,0:47:34.33,0:47:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some number it's a small number but the Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.24,0:47:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some group of people do that. And now Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.33,0:47:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's consider the subset of those people Dialogue: 0,0:47:40.29,0:47:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are going to drive to a Microsoft Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.27,0:47:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,store pick it lovingly pick out their… Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.16,0:47:45.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know favorite signature P.C. Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.93,0:47:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,configuration from the store, buy it from Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.07,0:47:49.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft. You know their favorite Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.74,0:47:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,company. And then put Linux on it. I mean Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.23,0:47:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.50,0:47:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not saying it's not going to happen but Dialogue: 0,0:47:56.64,0:47:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,c'mon. I mean and this is Microsoft's. Dialogue: 0,0:47:58.58,0:48:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Path to world domination we're going to Dialogue: 0,0:48:01.70,0:48:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do it through the signature pieces that Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.16,0:48:05.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nobody even knows exists at the stores Dialogue: 0,0:48:06.03,0:48:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can't even find there where you Dialogue: 0,0:48:08.15,0:48:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,live. It's just the whole thing is loaded Dialogue: 0,0:48:10.12,0:48:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just typical. Watching this cascade Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.40,0:48:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across the Internet today. It's just as Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.99,0:48:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depressing. That's just so typical. \NYou know Dialogue: 0,0:48:21.32,0:48:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It destroys your faith in humanity Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.91,0:48:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Or reconfirms my belief that we're all \Nidiots. I mean it's just it's sad. Dialogue: 0,0:48:31.21,0:48:34.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-And he thought Lenovo did show. I mean I Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.31,0:48:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't remember what they call it it's Dialogue: 0,0:48:36.57,0:48:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like software services but then on boot Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.82,0:48:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up you actually get the option of what Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.83,0:48:46.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,packages you want to install. So you \Ncould make it a signature… Dialogue: 0,0:48:46.85,0:48:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You mean..? Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.89,0:48:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-All the crapware. Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.35,0:48:52.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-That’s interesting. So Lenovo not the Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.05,0:48:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only P.C. makers starting to do that kind Dialogue: 0,0:48:55.39,0:48:56.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a thing and I really like this Dialogue: 0,0:48:56.95,0:48:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approach it's because it's something P.C. Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.31,0:49:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makers are not familiar with called \Ncustomer centricity. Dialogue: 0,0:49:01.73,0:49:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know H.P.’s newer machines will do Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.38,0:49:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same thing and in the past you get a Dialogue: 0,0:49:06.79,0:49:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bunch of utilities and things running in Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.96,0:49:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the tray and whatever was. Now you have Dialogue: 0,0:49:11.64,0:49:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to seek out those applications and at the \N Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.98,0:49:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time that you run it. It says hey we have Dialogue: 0,0:49:16.07,0:49:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this tray thing we can put it and you Dialogue: 0,0:49:18.62,0:49:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to use it and if you say no that's Dialogue: 0,0:49:21.39,0:49:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the end of it you know and that's the Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.81,0:49:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way things should be you know don't you \Nthink. Yeah so. Dialogue: 0,0:49:27.81,0:49:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Well it sure beats me having to spend the Dialogue: 0,0:49:30.31,0:49:32.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first thirty minutes of my new P.C.’s life Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.33,0:49:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uninstalling everything that came \Npre-installed. Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.42,0:49:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yes right. Actually we will never be Dialogue: 0,0:49:39.42,0:49:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deemed intelligent beings by future Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.39,0:49:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,civilizations because of things like this. Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.41,0:49:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like when you buy an electronic Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.34,0:49:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,device and spend the first thirty minutes Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.29,0:49:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,updating the software or when you buy a Dialogue: 0,0:49:50.16,0:49:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smartphone and you \Ninstall apps and you Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.03,0:49:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spend the next seven days removing or Dialogue: 0,0:49:53.89,0:49:55.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changing notifications or like what you Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.75,0:49:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just said you buy a new P.C. and the Dialogue: 0,0:49:57.48,0:49:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first thing you do is take things away Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.33,0:50:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from it. It's like this is so counter Dialogue: 0,0:50:01.04,0:50:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intuitive and counterproductive and Dialogue: 0,0:50:03.20,0:50:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet we just sort of sort of accept that Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.55,0:50:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the way it is you know. Dialogue: 0,0:50:07.26,0:50:09.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-That's what makes me so sad that Dialogue: 0,0:50:09.40,0:50:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,signature seems to be kind of not an Dialogue: 0,0:50:11.70,0:50:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emphasis anymore because I Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.37,0:50:15.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remember when I got my Acer S7 it Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.39,0:50:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came to me as a signature device and I Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.25,0:50:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't even know it was going to and it Dialogue: 0,0:50:19.11,0:50:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was such a different experience. Dialogue: 0,0:50:20.73,0:50:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Oh yes by the way. So let's see four Dialogue: 0,0:50:22.97,0:50:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years ago this month. Microsoft opened Dialogue: 0,0:50:25.36,0:50:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their store in Boston and I bought the Dialogue: 0,0:50:28.27,0:50:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very first computer that was sold at that Dialogue: 0,0:50:30.46,0:50:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,store which is a fifteen inch \NSamsung Ultra Book. Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.11,0:50:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was one of the last Windows 7 computers Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.53,0:50:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they sold right because Windows 8 \Ncame out. Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.85,0:50:42.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thirty or forty five days later \Nand to this day Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.19,0:50:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I restore that thing and it goes back Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.41,0:50:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to that clean Windows 7 signature edition Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.60,0:50:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing with beautiful wallpaper and you Dialogue: 0,0:50:50.78,0:50:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know no crap anywhere it's still like this Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.85,0:50:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calming almost transcendental moment like Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.86,0:50:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you open the thing up\NAnd you’re like nice! Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.78,0:51:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know and that's not the reaction Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.62,0:51:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,typically happen with P.C. right? \NIt's too bad Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.37,0:51:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I mean seriously there is something about Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.98,0:51:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having to do a hard restore where you to Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.59,0:51:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go back to the factory disks and you know Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.85,0:51:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah when any time you do that there's Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.70,0:51:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be hours and hours if not days of Dialogue: 0,0:51:15.75,0:51:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,updates it's going to \Nhave to go through Dialogue: 0,0:51:17.66,0:51:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,round & round \N& round but that's not Dialogue: 0,0:51:19.84,0:51:21.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the infuriating part for me because that I Dialogue: 0,0:51:21.87,0:51:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can just leave off in the corner. Dialogue: 0,0:51:23.28,0:51:25.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The infuriating part is I know I'm already Dialogue: 0,0:51:25.58,0:51:27.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to have an anti-virus it's going to Dialogue: 0,0:51:27.90,0:51:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take five restarts to fully get rid of Dialogue: 0,0:51:29.82,0:51:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it just sticks in there and you Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.15,0:51:34.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to do a little bit \Nof registry editing Dialogue: 0,0:51:34.24,0:51:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get rid of the stuff that doesn't\Nuninstall at all. Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.79,0:51:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I know we've talked about this on the pod Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.13,0:51:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cast whatever. You know some months ago Dialogue: 0,0:51:41.55,0:51:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as part of the Windows 10 anniversary Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.76,0:51:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,update there's a new tool\Nit's not actually Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.90,0:51:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,included in the O. S. but it's linked to Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.89,0:51:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the O. S. And so I think people are Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.89,0:51:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably familiar with the reset your P.C. Dialogue: 0,0:51:51.89,0:51:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,functionality of that they viewed \Nin Windows 8 Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.08,0:51:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also available in Windows 10. Thing is if Dialogue: 0,0:51:56.21,0:51:58.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you use that on a P.C. that came from a Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.53,0:52:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,P.C. maker which is you know most P.C.'s. Dialogue: 0,0:52:00.85,0:52:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The P.C. maker can edit that image that's Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.35,0:52:08.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,installed so the crap all comes back right Dialogue: 0,0:52:08.35,0:52:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you reset the P.C. you get the crap. Dialogue: 0,0:52:10.71,0:52:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's a separate tool called refresh Dialogue: 0,0:52:13.23,0:52:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows it's linked to from the same place Dialogue: 0,0:52:15.22,0:52:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the settings up in Windows 10 with the Dialogue: 0,0:52:17.34,0:52:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anniversary update. You download the tool Dialogue: 0,0:52:19.69,0:52:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it downloads Windows 10 \Nit's a clean version Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.07,0:52:24.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Windows 10 and then you can install Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.17,0:52:26.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that and then so instead of getting the Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.41,0:52:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crapware laden version you might get from Dialogue: 0,0:52:28.37,0:52:30.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say whatever peace maker Dell, HP, Lenovo Dialogue: 0,0:52:30.58,0:52:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever you get Microsoft's clean image Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.91,0:52:34.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right. And so the pro there is you don't Dialogue: 0,0:52:34.91,0:52:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get the stuff you're talking about \Nlike the Anti-Virus Dialogue: 0,0:52:37.60,0:52:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever stupid utilities \Npeople put on there. Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.79,0:52:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The minus side is you may not get the Dialogue: 0,0:52:42.06,0:52:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,driver you know Lenovo, HPNO and probably Dialogue: 0,0:52:44.69,0:52:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dell have decent utilities for keeping Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.01,0:52:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that particular machine up to date with Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.88,0:52:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drivers for example you \Ndon't get that thing. Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.02,0:52:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so you might have to do a little bit Dialogue: 0,0:52:52.93,0:52:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of extra work if you want some of that Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.73,0:52:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff or if you need it you know if you Dialogue: 0,0:52:56.59,0:52:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look in device manager and some of your Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.46,0:53:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff hasn't been recognized you know you Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.42,0:53:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might find yourself going to the HP\N Dialogue: 0,0:53:02.19,0:53:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or Dell or Lenovo or whatever website and Dialogue: 0,0:53:04.18,0:53:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,downloading the drivers but at least you Dialogue: 0,0:53:06.31,0:53:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have that option now. \NAnd so I think that's Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.44,0:53:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot closer to a signature P.C. \Ntype experience Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.78,0:53:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except that it's not fine tuned for YOUR Dialogue: 0,0:53:15.78,0:53:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exact computer which was the Dialogue: 0,0:53:17.88,0:53:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point of signature. Dialogue: 0,0:53:22.45,0:53:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-If anyone wants an almost \NSignature Series Dialogue: 0,0:53:25.28,0:53:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just buy the retail version of the Dialogue: 0,0:53:28.04,0:53:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operating system and that's what you get Dialogue: 0,0:53:30.46,0:53:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yeah it sounds stupid but it really Dialogue: 0,0:53:32.56,0:53:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is something that is so nice about Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.73,0:53:36.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starting the P.C. and realizing the only Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.67,0:53:39.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing on here is the bare O. S. everything Dialogue: 0,0:53:39.17,0:53:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that gets added on is my choice. Dialogue: 0,0:53:42.43,0:53:44.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-And that's by the way another thing I Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.75,0:53:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think we all do with these devices doesn't Dialogue: 0,0:53:47.05,0:53:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matter what you're talking about a phone, Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.16,0:53:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tablet, computer. That first day you Dialogue: 0,0:53:51.15,0:53:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,install the things you know you need right Dialogue: 0,0:53:53.15,0:53:54.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just the absolute necessity. Dialogue: 0,0:53:54.88,0:53:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah for example I need to\Ninstall chrome. Dialogue: 0,0:53:57.78,0:54:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yes exactly which I believe it’s the only Dialogue: 0,0:54:00.98,0:54:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reason it exist. Over time as you use the Dialogue: 0,0:54:03.99,0:54:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,device whatever it is you know P.C. tablet Dialogue: 0,0:54:06.33,0:54:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever you realize oh wait I need this Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.17,0:54:11.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing too and it spirals right so over Dialogue: 0,0:54:11.59,0:54:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time you fill the thing up and you. You Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.79,0:54:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know there's a bunch of junk on there but Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.79,0:54:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those first couple days are wonderful. Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.66,0:54:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like the. You know the out of box Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.03,0:54:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing is kind of like it should be. I mean Dialogue: 0,0:54:22.25,0:54:24.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not always with the P.C. If you get Dialogue: 0,0:54:24.23,0:54:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the wrong kind but you know\Nthat's what it is. Dialogue: 0,0:54:26.92,0:54:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we kind of try to recapture that magic Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.39,0:54:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every once in a while. \NLet's reset it back a little. Dialogue: 0,0:54:34.48,0:54:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-But we do have to talk about the layoffs Dialogue: 0,0:54:36.87,0:54:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at some point because it is a big story Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.78,0:54:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's not it's not it's not \Ntotally unexpected right? Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.95,0:54:45.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Right! -We saw this. Dialogue: 0,0:54:45.86,0:54:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah we did and you know I think a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.44,0:54:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people forgot but in July Microsoft Dialogue: 0,0:54:50.35,0:54:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,announced during S.E.C. filing\Nthat they're Dialogue: 0,0:54:53.48,0:54:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be laying off. Almost 3,000 Dialogue: 0,0:54:55.96,0:54:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more people this fiscal year which is Dialogue: 0,0:54:58.64,0:55:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their fiscal 2017. Over the weekend there Dialogue: 0,0:55:01.47,0:55:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a report by the Financial Times that Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.02,0:55:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft was closing Skype London and I Dialogue: 0,0:55:06.63,0:55:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saw some people report this says and Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.24,0:55:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,laying off 400 people but actually the Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.97,0:55:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number that Microsoft is laying off is Dialogue: 0,0:55:14.23,0:55:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,closer to 230, I think?! I called them and Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.23,0:55:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asked them how many people is it and they Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.85,0:55:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said it's about 230 and that's a \Ncombination Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.00,0:55:26.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people who work for both \NSkype and Yammer in London. Dialogue: 0,0:55:26.23,0:55:28.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people be moved to the Paddington Dialogue: 0,0:55:28.86,0:55:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,office some are just going to be let go. Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.13,0:55:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They also last week. Paul and I kinda were Dialogue: 0,0:55:33.88,0:55:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,catching bits and pieces of this through Dialogue: 0,0:55:36.21,0:55:38.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Facebook because we saw different people Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.57,0:55:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we knew posting to Facebook that they had Dialogue: 0,0:55:40.55,0:55:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been cut but they cut another 300 people Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.64,0:55:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on top of that mostly from the Puget Sound Dialogue: 0,0:55:45.07,0:55:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Redmond area and a few people from other Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.34,0:55:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,geographies around the world. These 500+ Dialogue: 0,0:55:51.06,0:55:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,layoffs that happened last week are part Dialogue: 0,0:55:55.06,0:55:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of that 2850 that they announced in July. Dialogue: 0,0:55:58.69,0:56:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This isn't a new group of people who Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.04,0:56:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't you know who Microsoft said and Dialogue: 0,0:56:03.48,0:56:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we’re adding another 500. These are people Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.76,0:56:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all different divisions not \Nall concentrated Dialogue: 0,0:56:08.18,0:56:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in one division. Except for the Skype and Dialogue: 0,0:56:10.24,0:56:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yammer part that are being let go across Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.48,0:56:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the company. Microsoft's definitely Dialogue: 0,0:56:15.18,0:56:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continuing to tighten, you know belt Dialogue: 0,0:56:17.59,0:56:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tight, doing belt tightening across the Dialogue: 0,0:56:19.72,0:56:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,company getting rid of people before the Dialogue: 0,0:56:21.64,0:56:23.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,layoffs were largely Windows phone related Dialogue: 0,0:56:23.69,0:56:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Windows Mobile these new ones are not Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.96,0:56:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they pretty much laid off all of Dialogue: 0,0:56:28.32,0:56:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those people originally it was a bunch of Dialogue: 0,0:56:30.73,0:56:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Microsoft sales people because they Dialogue: 0,0:56:32.53,0:56:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a sales reorg this year when Kevin Dialogue: 0,0:56:34.38,0:56:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Turner left. Now we're getting into the Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.30,0:56:38.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,product areas some people in Windows, Dialogue: 0,0:56:38.11,0:56:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some in Office , people across \Ndifferent parts of Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.62,0:56:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the company. So if you hear \Nabout layoffs that Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.06,0:56:45.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happened recently that is what happened. Dialogue: 0,0:56:46.50,0:56:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah a lot of my Microsoft contacts are Dialogue: 0,0:56:48.61,0:56:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heads down right now. Not necessarily Dialogue: 0,0:56:50.85,0:56:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're fearing this round but Dialogue: 0,0:56:52.99,0:56:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they realize you know what Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.94,0:56:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft is actually, they're not doing Dialogue: 0,0:56:57.20,0:56:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cutthroat competition anymore but they Dialogue: 0,0:56:59.88,0:57:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are looking to the various departments and Dialogue: 0,0:57:02.82,0:57:04.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding out “Do you have any personnel Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.85,0:57:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have not really contributed anything Dialogue: 0,0:57:07.03,0:57:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the last five years?” Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.46,0:57:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I think the H.R. term for these\Npeople is dead wood?! Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.100,0:57:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah and it's always difficult to talk Dialogue: 0,0:57:13.08,0:57:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about someone like that but if you've been Dialogue: 0,0:57:15.92,0:57:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a company for twenty years. And you Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.96,0:57:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,haven't really been challenged or maybe Dialogue: 0,0:57:20.96,0:57:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've become really really cynical it Dialogue: 0,0:57:22.79,0:57:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be time to move on. I've seen that. Dialogue: 0,0:57:24.90,0:57:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-In over the past year or two as we talk Dialogue: 0,0:57:27.20,0:57:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about layoffs obviously there's the human Dialogue: 0,0:57:29.18,0:57:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,side to it. It's always very tragic people Dialogue: 0,0:57:31.22,0:57:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to lose their jobs but looking at the Dialogue: 0,0:57:33.36,0:57:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,company from sort of a Microsoft watching Dialogue: 0,0:57:35.53,0:57:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perspective I think Mary Jo would agree Dialogue: 0,0:57:38.01,0:57:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a very big and in some ways still Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.38,0:57:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bloated company with lots of levels of Dialogue: 0,0:57:42.38,0:57:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hierarchy and management so forth and… Dialogue: 0,0:57:44.51,0:57:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know the people I know personally for Dialogue: 0,0:57:48.38,0:57:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft are to one very smart people Dialogue: 0,0:57:50.92,0:57:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they do want to change the world but I Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.30,0:57:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think the system they're in might be a Dialogue: 0,0:57:55.57,0:57:59.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little too big and complex. You know for Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.57,0:58:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things to happen so it's possible that the Dialogue: 0,0:58:02.70,0:58:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dell is making these changes like many of Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.77,0:58:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the changes is made to speed response time Dialogue: 0,0:58:08.74,0:58:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make sure they're focusing on the right Dialogue: 0,0:58:10.88,0:58:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things and all that kind of stuff so. Dialogue: 0,0:58:12.81,0:58:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-SCR 1 in the chat room is saying how all Dialogue: 0,0:58:15.58,0:58:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their downsizing their way to success and Dialogue: 0,0:58:17.99,0:58:19.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know it's very easy to see it that way Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.91,0:58:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there's another view and if you take a Dialogue: 0,0:58:21.91,0:58:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,step back. You can actually see it. I know Dialogue: 0,0:58:23.95,0:58:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mary Jo and Paul you've both seen this is Dialogue: 0,0:58:25.98,0:58:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you cover Microsoft so deeply but Dialogue: 0,0:58:28.27,0:58:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially during the Bomber years. There Dialogue: 0,0:58:31.24,0:58:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were little fiefdoms that developed in Dialogue: 0,0:58:33.82,0:58:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft and the fiefdoms were all about Dialogue: 0,0:58:36.33,0:58:38.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how many employees were under your Dialogue: 0,0:58:38.35,0:58:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thumb and so you had these…\N(Paul) That was awesome wasn’t it? Dialogue: 0,0:58:41.25,0:58:43.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You had these little princes who are Dialogue: 0,0:58:43.29,0:58:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accumulating kingdoms not really caring Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.35,0:58:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the productivity they were getting Dialogue: 0,0:58:47.47,0:58:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of people they were just cared about Dialogue: 0,0:58:49.46,0:58:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how many people they were in charge \Nof and .. Dialogue: 0,0:58:51.97,0:58:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-There's actually another side to this Dialogue: 0,0:58:54.25,0:58:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with power comes the ability to influence Dialogue: 0,0:58:58.25,0:59:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,direction and I always think back to this Dialogue: 0,0:59:01.24,0:59:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one example. I'm not saying that this Dialogue: 0,0:59:03.48,0:59:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,product would have been successful but at Dialogue: 0,0:59:05.81,0:59:08.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time when Steven Sinofsky was running Dialogue: 0,0:59:08.13,0:59:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Office group there was a project that Dialogue: 0,0:59:10.31,0:59:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came up from I don't \Nremember what group Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.25,0:59:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was but it was in Office\Nbut it was basically Dialogue: 0,0:59:14.51,0:59:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an attempt to put Office\Nin the Cloud at Dialogue: 0,0:59:16.39,0:59:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time they didn’t it\Ncalled the cloud Dialogue: 0,0:59:18.26,0:59:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's called Net docs and he killed it Dialogue: 0,0:59:20.24,0:59:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it competed with Office right and Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.72,0:59:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the theory here is that Microsoft might Dialogue: 0,0:59:25.20,0:59:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have come out with something that was Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.44,0:59:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Google Docs and all that stuff \Nyears earlier. Dialogue: 0,0:59:29.94,0:59:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they just hadn't been so or \Nif the people Dialogue: 0,0:59:32.68,0:59:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in power hadn't been so concerned about Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.30,0:59:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protecting their products. You know that Dialogue: 0,0:59:37.84,0:59:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you couldn't compete with something like Dialogue: 0,0:59:40.14,0:59:42.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows or Office if you did that you were Dialogue: 0,0:59:42.54,0:59:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out you had to support that right. Now, Dialogue: 0,0:59:45.10,0:59:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's possible and probable that Net Docs Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.60,0:59:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a joke that it was based on Active-X. Dialogue: 0,0:59:49.90,0:59:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it was stupid. Whatever I don't know Dialogue: 0,0:59:51.86,0:59:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you know but that's the type of thing Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.82,0:59:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that happens in that kind of organization. Dialogue: 0,0:59:56.09,0:59:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Plus you know we've talked about this a Dialogue: 0,0:59:58.04,0:59:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot but the emphasis of Microsoft these Dialogue: 0,0:59:59.90,1:00:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,days is very different from the\Nold Microsoft you know Dialogue: 0,1:00:02.44,1:00:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows was the main cash cow of Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.38,1:00:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft for years now everything has to Dialogue: 0,1:00:07.00,1:00:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be about the Cloud for them and the Dialogue: 0,1:00:08.93,1:00:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shareholders want that, The Wall Street Dialogue: 0,1:00:11.44,1:00:13.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,analysts want that. \NSo if you're working Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.57,1:00:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a group that's Windows related. You Dialogue: 0,1:00:15.66,1:00:17.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know they're definitely kind of putting Dialogue: 0,1:00:17.57,1:00:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the squeeze to you. I think. And if you're Dialogue: 0,1:00:19.69,1:00:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing something that's more Cloud focus Dialogue: 0,1:00:21.69,1:00:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Enterprise focused. Something that's about Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.21,1:00:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collaboration teamwork that kind of gives Dialogue: 0,1:00:26.72,1:00:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you an edge and I think it's \Nalso just about Dialogue: 0,1:00:29.43,1:00:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,job kind of… not restructuring but more Dialogue: 0,1:00:33.43,1:00:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like changing of the emphasis set at Dialogue: 0,1:00:36.66,1:00:38.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what matters. And what's going to Dialogue: 0,1:00:38.91,1:00:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make the money for Microsoft right. Dialogue: 0,1:00:40.87,1:00:43.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So some of that's a play too. Dialogue: 0,1:00:43.73,1:00:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You know I think we talked about this on Dialogue: 0,1:00:45.94,1:00:47.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows weekly. The notion you know the Dialogue: 0,1:00:47.93,1:00:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new newer surface devices\Nsay Microsoft on Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.00,1:00:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the right. And this one Microsoft notion Dialogue: 0,1:00:52.14,1:00:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're moving forward as one company Dialogue: 0,1:00:54.33,1:00:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not as the you know the guns pointed at Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.98,1:00:59.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each other all the little fiefdoms that we Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.23,1:01:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were just talking about you know \Nit's a new way for Dialogue: 0,1:01:01.68,1:01:04.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft. You know a new \Nway of doing things Dialogue: 0,1:01:04.39,1:01:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Right and that's why I actually still I'm Dialogue: 0,1:01:06.47,1:01:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very bullish on Microsoft I love what Dialogue: 0,1:01:08.48,1:01:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nadella has done that idea of taking down Dialogue: 0,1:01:10.62,1:01:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ramparts and making the little princes Dialogue: 0,1:01:12.94,1:01:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually work with one another. Yeah it Dialogue: 0,1:01:15.02,1:01:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't work any other way. Although… Dialogue: 0,1:01:17.12,1:01:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Change is hard though because you Dialogue: 0,1:01:19.48,1:01:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know externally. I agree with you right. Dialogue: 0,1:01:21.76,1:01:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this stuff is necessary.\NIt's exciting for Microsoft as Dialogue: 0,1:01:25.76,1:01:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a company that in many ways to become so Dialogue: 0,1:01:28.44,1:01:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calcified you know for to see \Nthem reacting Dialogue: 0,1:01:31.64,1:01:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to things quickly and moving quickly as it Dialogue: 0,1:01:34.40,1:01:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's very exciting in hitting that the \Nright Dialogue: 0,1:01:37.02,1:01:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,products and things but I know from Dialogue: 0,1:01:39.60,1:01:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personal experience with different people Dialogue: 0,1:01:42.20,1:01:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this change is very hard for some of Dialogue: 0,1:01:45.12,1:01:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people there's. And not just the ones Dialogue: 0,1:01:47.34,1:01:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who've been let go now. But just people Dialogue: 0,1:01:50.10,1:01:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who see projects just disappearing. Dialogue: 0,1:01:53.30,1:01:55.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-But then there's some other people who Dialogue: 0,1:01:55.67,1:01:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the opposites true like they've been Dialogue: 0,1:01:57.91,1:01:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chomping at the bit for ever to like work Dialogue: 0,1:01:59.87,1:02:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with teams across teams and they're like Dialogue: 0,1:02:02.19,1:02:04.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh finally they're letting us talk to each Dialogue: 0,1:02:04.22,1:02:05.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other before and that wasn't really Dialogue: 0,1:02:05.91,1:02:07.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encouraged or even allowed right. Dialogue: 0,1:02:07.88,1:02:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So those people are really happy. Dialogue: 0,1:02:09.88,1:02:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Not to hammer on Steven Sinofsky Dialogue: 0,1:02:12.08,1:02:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what the heck. \NYou know when they did Dialogue: 0,1:02:14.08,1:02:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 8, right. They went to the Windows Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.10,1:02:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Phone team and said show us the Metro Dialogue: 0,1:02:17.88,1:02:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff and they say here you go and for the Dialogue: 0,1:02:19.88,1:02:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows Phone perspectives thought great! Dialogue: 0,1:02:21.86,1:02:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to collaborate with these guys Dialogue: 0,1:02:23.87,1:02:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're going to come out with this cohesive Dialogue: 0,1:02:25.89,1:02:27.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system. Nope they never talked again you Dialogue: 0,1:02:27.82,1:02:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know the Windows Phone guys are always Dialogue: 0,1:02:29.64,1:02:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the B. team to the Windows guys now in Dialogue: 0,1:02:31.46,1:02:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 10 with him gone and you know Dialogue: 0,1:02:33.61,1:02:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different people in place that is what's Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.52,1:02:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happening but it happens. \NThree to five years too late. Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.30,1:02:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is stuff that should have happened Dialogue: 0,1:02:40.75,1:02:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on day one. These thing should have Dialogue: 0,1:02:42.76,1:02:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evolved together. You know you could have Dialogue: 0,1:02:44.91,1:02:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made the case back in I guess we're Dialogue: 0,1:02:47.16,1:02:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking 2010 -2011, 2012 certainly that Dialogue: 0,1:02:50.04,1:02:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows Phone had been in market at Dialogue: 0,1:02:53.30,1:02:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mature to some point. If you're going to Dialogue: 0,1:02:56.13,1:02:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go to market with an R. T. style\Ntablet device. Dialogue: 0,1:02:58.99,1:03:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It should have been Windows Phone O.S. Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.41,1:03:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was already there. It had to Apps. It Dialogue: 0,1:03:03.54,1:03:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was all there but no they started over Dialogue: 0,1:03:05.46,1:03:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from scratch. They created another Windows Dialogue: 0,1:03:08.08,1:03:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system that ran out arm. Instead of you Dialogue: 0,1:03:10.52,1:03:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know basing it on the thing they really \Nhad very strange. Dialogue: 0,1:03:14.74,1:03:17.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-About ten years ago I had a contact in Dialogue: 0,1:03:17.37,1:03:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Xbox division and a contact in the Dialogue: 0,1:03:20.31,1:03:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows division and we had a weird Dialogue: 0,1:03:23.04,1:03:25.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exchange of the course of six weeks where Dialogue: 0,1:03:25.35,1:03:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically they were using me as an Dialogue: 0,1:03:27.25,1:03:29.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intermediary to pass messages. I was like Dialogue: 0,1:03:29.53,1:03:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you work literally 400 yards away \Nfrom each other Dialogue: 0,1:03:33.08,1:03:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's going on here? Dialogue: 0,1:03:34.63,1:03:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Oh by the way if they're still there and Dialogue: 0,1:03:36.75,1:03:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on same teams they all work for the same Dialogue: 0,1:03:38.69,1:03:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guy I know -Exactly, exactly. Dialogue: 0,1:03:40.29,1:03:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-That's one organization now. Dialogue: 0,1:03:41.67,1:03:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-That's why they were emailing through me. Dialogue: 0,1:03:43.72,1:03:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're like we can't be seen \Nto be emailing Dialogue: 0,1:03:45.72,1:03:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one another. Someone will see it and get Dialogue: 0,1:03:47.69,1:03:49.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really upset I was thinking that is so Dialogue: 0,1:03:49.72,1:03:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dysfunctional. That is the worst kind of \Ntriangulation ever. Dialogue: 0,1:03:53.35,1:03:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Even you know like Ray Ozzie remember Dialogue: 0,1:03:55.83,1:03:58.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he was the chief scientist \Nor whatever Dialogue: 0,1:03:58.29,1:04:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the chief software architect. Dialogue: 0,1:04:01.12,1:04:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know he allowed teams to compete on Dialogue: 0,1:04:04.72,1:04:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know file sync technologies and things Dialogue: 0,1:04:07.91,1:04:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that and instead of determining you Dialogue: 0,1:04:11.32,1:04:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know that you're the best ideas from each Dialogue: 0,1:04:13.86,1:04:15.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,group let's make one thing you know you Dialogue: 0,1:04:15.99,1:04:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allow this internal competition to occur Dialogue: 0,1:04:18.12,1:04:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what happens on the outside is you see Dialogue: 0,1:04:20.81,1:04:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they have three different file sync Dialogue: 0,1:04:23.04,1:04:25.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solutions at the time or four and which Dialogue: 0,1:04:25.35,1:04:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one do I take a bet on and why are there Dialogue: 0,1:04:28.12,1:04:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so many and doesn't the show a lack of Dialogue: 0,1:04:30.50,1:04:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leadership. You know and I'm sure there Dialogue: 0,1:04:32.99,1:04:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are management strategies or theories that Dialogue: 0,1:04:35.97,1:04:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a good way to do things but we Dialogue: 0,1:04:38.96,1:04:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know from experience with this particular Dialogue: 0,1:04:41.55,1:04:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subject that you know that didn't go very Dialogue: 0,1:04:44.00,1:04:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well. And eventually it all became \NOneDrive Dialogue: 0,1:04:47.04,1:04:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know but for several years there were Dialogue: 0,1:04:49.33,1:04:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many, many different solutions. Dialogue: 0,1:04:51.44,1:04:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-There were. I remember when all those Dialogue: 0,1:04:53.28,1:04:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think engines were out there and it was Dialogue: 0,1:04:55.16,1:04:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like it was a time I should think you like Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.17,1:04:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which one are they talking about right now Dialogue: 0,1:04:59.20,1:05:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I'm not going to remember all of them. Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.10,1:05:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-No there are a lot Dialogue: 0,1:05:02.36,1:05:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I mean now there is Windows Live Sync, \Nand uhh.. Dialogue: 0,1:05:04.75,1:05:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-There’s a Sequel one, Sequel team was Dialogue: 0,1:05:07.24,1:05:08.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing a whole different sync thing. Dialogue: 0,1:05:08.97,1:05:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You know it's like a mosh pits theory of Dialogue: 0,1:05:11.64,1:05:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,management like let them fight it out Dialogue: 0,1:05:16.46,1:05:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I prefer the days of active sync where \N Dialogue: 0,1:05:18.90,1:05:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was active sync and then active sync Dialogue: 0,1:05:20.97,1:05:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for mobile and active scene for enterprise Dialogue: 0,1:05:23.07,1:05:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,active sync for exchange because\Nthat really Dialogue: 0,1:05:25.98,1:05:28.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made it. You know very easy to understand. Dialogue: 0,1:05:28.55,1:05:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-What do you call it when you reuse an Dialogue: 0,1:05:30.91,1:05:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,acronym? What is that called? Uh, You Dialogue: 0,1:05:32.87,1:05:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,double it up or whatever it's like they Dialogue: 0,1:05:34.89,1:05:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did that with active sync was which is Dialogue: 0,1:05:36.78,1:05:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over used. You know as a term. Dialogue: 0,1:05:38.87,1:05:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Someone just thought it sounded like a Dialogue: 0,1:05:40.87,1:05:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really cool name so they wanted to use it Dialogue: 0,1:05:42.82,1:05:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on as many products as possible and it Dialogue: 0,1:05:45.05,1:05:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,took me a while to realize that \Ntwo products Dialogue: 0,1:05:47.34,1:05:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were called Active Sync actually Dialogue: 0,1:05:49.11,1:05:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had… it was no sharing of the code \Nbase between them Dialogue: 0,1:05:51.60,1:05:53.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Those guys probably hated each other. Dialogue: 0,1:05:53.95,1:05:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yes. Well because it was the exchange Dialogue: 0,1:05:55.92,1:05:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,side and then it was the mobile side \Nand they didn't, Dialogue: 0,1:05:58.34,1:06:00.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, they were competing \Nwith each other. Dialogue: 0,1:06:00.85,1:06:02.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I remember the spinning green circle \N Dialogue: 0,1:06:02.73,1:06:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very well I still have nightmares about \Nit. (Laughing) Dialogue: 0,1:06:07.18,1:06:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what happens when you build a Dialogue: 0,1:06:09.42,1:06:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dysfunctional company. All right. When we Dialogue: 0,1:06:11.95,1:06:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come back. What's going to be? Wearables? Dialogue: 0,1:06:14.03,1:06:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ignite?. What do we want to talk about?\N Dialogue: 0,1:06:16.26,1:06:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Ignite? You mean like the Note 7? Dialogue: 0,1:06:17.96,1:06:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah (Laughing) It's too soon, \Ntoo soon man. Dialogue: 0,1:06:21.67,1:06:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I think, let's do wearables because Dialogue: 0,1:06:23.85,1:06:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody wants to know what's\Ngoing on with the Band Dialogue: 0,1:06:26.40,1:06:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Of course. So we'll be banding up in Dialogue: 0,1:06:28.78,1:06:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just a bit but first let's go and take Dialogue: 0,1:06:31.04,1:06:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another break. Because we need to thank Dialogue: 0,1:06:33.07,1:06:34.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another sponsor of Windows Weekly.\N Dialogue: 0,1:06:34.95,1:06:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey folks, do you read? Of course you Dialogue: 0,1:06:37.33,1:06:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,read but you probably don't read as much Dialogue: 0,1:06:39.71,1:06:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you want to. I know I don't. Dialogue: 0,1:06:41.90,1:06:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There came a time when my schedule just Dialogue: 0,1:06:44.44,1:06:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got so full that I don't have those free Dialogue: 0,1:06:46.58,1:06:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evenings to curl up with a book I can't Dialogue: 0,1:06:48.72,1:06:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do that hour of reading in the mid-day. Dialogue: 0,1:06:50.90,1:06:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't have the breaks. I'd like to, to Dialogue: 0,1:06:52.85,1:06:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pick up my favorite pieces of fiction and Dialogue: 0,1:06:54.82,1:06:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nonfiction. Well there's a new way to Dialogue: 0,1:06:56.66,1:06:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,read with your ears. That's right, it's Dialogue: 0,1:06:58.77,1:07:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called Audible. Now I spend a lot of time Dialogue: 0,1:07:00.77,1:07:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the car probably about two hours every Dialogue: 0,1:07:03.38,1:07:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day coming up and down from San Francisco Dialogue: 0,1:07:06.02,1:07:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Petaluma and I spend a lot of time in Dialogue: 0,1:07:08.29,1:07:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the air in fact I just spent 27 hours in Dialogue: 0,1:07:10.73,1:07:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the air coming going to and from \NIFA in Berlin. Dialogue: 0,1:07:13.87,1:07:16.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to spend another 30 hours Dialogue: 0,1:07:16.12,1:07:18.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going over to Rome at the \Nend of this month. Dialogue: 0,1:07:18.31,1:07:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's nice to have my favorite books, Dialogue: 0,1:07:20.63,1:07:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the books that I want to read that are on Dialogue: 0,1:07:22.97,1:07:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my wish list ready to go with a touch Dialogue: 0,1:07:25.09,1:07:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a button. Well that's exactly Dialogue: 0,1:07:26.86,1:07:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you get with Audible. Dialogue: 0,1:07:28.62,1:07:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Audible is a leading provider of audio \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:30.73,1:07:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,books across all types of literature \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:32.51,1:07:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including fiction nonfiction and \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:34.45,1:07:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,periodicals they offer a language \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:36.27,1:07:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instruction in foreign language course in \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:38.38,1:07:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,audio book format so you can always be \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:40.36,1:07:42.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,improving yourself no matter what you're \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:42.37,1:07:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing. No matter where you're going no \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:44.20,1:07:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matter how busy your schedule might be. \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:46.19,1:07:48.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For listeners of Windows Weekly Audible \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:48.26,1:07:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is offering a free audio book to give you \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:50.45,1:07:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a chance to try out their service. Dialogue: 0,1:07:52.43,1:07:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One audio book that I absolutely \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:54.52,1:07:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recommend, I recommended to everybody, in \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:56.61,1:07:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fact I've been recommending it since it \N Dialogue: 0,1:07:58.49,1:08:00.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first came out and that is The Martian by \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:00.45,1:08:02.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Andy Weir. This book is absolutely \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:02.93,1:08:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantastic. If you liked the movie you \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:05.95,1:08:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will love the audio book. I'm actually \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:08.10,1:08:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,addicted to this. I do a lot of trips \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:10.12,1:08:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the last Vegas and this is just \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:12.11,1:08:14.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the right length to get me from \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:14.33,1:08:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here to there. It's all about a man \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:17.02,1:08:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to survive on his own with nothing \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:19.31,1:08:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but his wits and his biology skills. Dialogue: 0,1:08:21.94,1:08:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to find out what it's like to Dialogue: 0,1:08:24.40,1:08:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,live on the red planet, if you want to \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:26.35,1:08:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listen to a premise that is fresh that is \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:28.37,1:08:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not based off of a comic book that is not \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:30.73,1:08:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based off of a series. You've got to try \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:32.94,1:08:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Martian it's free. Because you're a \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:35.35,1:08:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listener of Windows Weekly. Now to \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:37.50,1:08:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,download this audio book for free or \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:39.58,1:08:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another one of your choice you can go to \Naudible.com/windows. Dialogue: 0,1:08:42.87,1:08:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's audible.com/windows, of course, Dialogue: 0,1:08:44.92,1:08:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to give you just my pick. Dialogue: 0,1:08:47.05,1:08:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know this is supposed to come later Dialogue: 0,1:08:49.04,1:08:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the show but Paul, you're a big Dialogue: 0,1:08:51.04,1:08:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,audio book listener as well, Yes? Dialogue: 0,1:08:52.94,1:08:55.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Maybe?! (Fa Bellencer) Maybe?! Dialogue: 0,1:08:55.16,1:08:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were teasing me with a pick that was \N Dialogue: 0,1:08:58.10,1:08:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to change my life.\N Dialogue: 0,1:08:59.35,1:09:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Well you know I liked, uh, I like \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personal tech industry picks from \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible there really aren't that many \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really good ones. We talked about \NMasters of Doom, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is story about the ID software Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guys read by Wil Wheaton, which \Nis fantastic. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had recommended that one sometime ago. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone who listened to it loved it, and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recommended one back to me, I bought it.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I haven't actually started it yet but \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the next book it's called \NConsole Wars. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sega, Nintendo and the battle that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to find a generation and if you think \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back to the history of video games in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particular I think the, I think, I mean \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe I'm wrong here but the Nintendo \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sega stuff of the late 80’s, early 90's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is kind of the second major generation of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video games you know Atari, Odyssey, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Intellivision, Coleco Vision, etc being \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first generation. And so it's the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,story of these companies and you know how \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nintendo and then eventually, uh, Sega \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and assume Sony you know kind of just \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changed things through the early 90’s.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well there you have it. You've got an \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,older fiction pick for me. You've got a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nonfiction pick for Paul you can pretty \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much find everything in between at \NAudible.com. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now this offer works for one credit \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,books there are very few that are two \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,credit that won't work with the software \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you want to try out Paul's book, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you want to try out mine. You need to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try Audible.com and we thank Audible for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their support of Windows Weekly. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, So we've got some Wearables I did see \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few of these in Berlin and they looked, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they looked wearable, they looked \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting. But should I be\Nexcited Mary Jo? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I you know I still I'm, I don't have a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smart watch. I did use the Microsoft band \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a bit of time and I thought it was \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, I use the band too but I'm I still \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,haven't really seen any wearable device \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm like, Yes, I would pay that, I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would wear that. And now if you are a fan \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Microsoft band. We talked last week on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the show that we had heard some rumors \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Microsoft may be no longer making \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the band after band two. Right after the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show ended, a day later we found out that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft was rebranding the Microsoft \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Health application to Band. So people who \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are downloading the Microsoft updates to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Microsoft Health application for IOS, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Android and Windows, were seeing suddenly Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it was called Band instead of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Health. Microsoft hasn't really said \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's going on with that but my sources \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said to me that what they think is that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft's rebranding Health to Band \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because right now Microsoft, the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft health app that exists really \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just is meant to sync with the Band. It's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supposed to work with Microsoft band. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think what they're going to do is \Ncome out \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with another new app that will be called \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft Health. And that will work with \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Microsoft Health Service on all \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different kinds of devices not just the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Band. They'll be able to work with. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Android devices different kinds of phone \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,platforms and all, all different kinds of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things and I think the reason they're \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing this is Microsoft's priority going \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forward in the space is the health, the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health service and the health \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applications and not so much the actual \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,band hardware which has been something \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a lot of people love but has had \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of mixed success. And in fact the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Band 2 a lot of people have had problems \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with it splitting and they've had to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,return it and I just, I just think Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft's kind of in a place right now \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where maybe they're thinking about a new \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wearable at some point maybe it'll be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another kind of a fitness band that'll be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,branded Surface someday but I think the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Band line as we know it is done and now \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're going to see them talk about how \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the health service and the help app and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not so much the Band. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Bellencer) I think are going to call\Nit Band For Life. I think is… Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-No don't give them any ideas please.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) How did you find out about our \Nsecret plans? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Actually, maybe Mary Jo is right. Maybe \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Band is now called Skype For Life. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're going to wear Skype. Because that \Nmakes sense. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do either of you wear a band? I like the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,band, I did try it out. But do you \Nwear it on a daily basis? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) No\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) I mean well I switched to Fit Bit Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three months ago ish. I mean you know I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really I like the Microsoft Band for what \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is I think it makes a great \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compromise. Compromise? Is the wrong \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,phrase. It's a nice middle ground between \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an expensive and complex smartwatch and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a lower end kind of fitness tracker \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right it I think it's got the right mix \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of functionality. I think the thing that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really kills it be on the reliability \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issues which you know came to light over \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time is just you looking at one day \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,battery life. That's the problem with the\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apple Watch, it's a problem with a lot of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these devices. You know a FitBit, Ulta. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think is the one I have the thing lasts \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for seven or eight days on a charge it's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incredible and. It accomplishes the same \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basic things that I like the most about \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wearables today which is somebody texts \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you and you can see what it is you get \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know reminders to get up and move \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around. It's it does the fitness tracking \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of stuff so I think I think they \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just running into a marketing issue and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the one hand where you know no one \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even knew this thing existed they didn't \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do good job of selling it and just a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,battery life limitation you know an Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apple. I know wanted to put solar kind of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activity on the new Apple Watch and they \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't because of the battery life stuff \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was no way to cram a thing \Nin there make it work. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well let's, let's not say that because \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Samsung did. So Samsung’s got their new \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gear S3, which does have a cell radio in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it, and Bluetooth and WiFi and it runs \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for four days. So it’s posssible\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) What I meant was Apple \Ncouldn't do it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Apple couldn’t do it, Right!\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So uhm, one of the things that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft did with the original Microsoft \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Band that was pretty impressive was just \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put that much in there in a sensor sense \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there were eleven sensors in the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first device. You know the second one \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,added one or two other sensors you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were Barometer for altitude and so \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forth you know that kind of data \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collection is really exciting you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's see what we can do with that, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promise. They never really did much with \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it. You know and of course we don't do a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good job of selling it and then as Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mary Jo pointed out sadly the second one Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the same exact reliability issues as Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first and that's if there was this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of the end of it right there. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-They also at least at some point were at \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of contemplating the idea of putting \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows, some variant of Windows 10 \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inside the Band. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Bands, the Band on and two both had \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,firmware inside. It was not Windows \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inside. And right before..\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) It’s basically Linux by the way.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Is it really? (Paul) Yeah\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um right before we get all these tips \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Microsoft, maybe ceasing work on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Band I had heard from one of my \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contacts that they are the team that was \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put to try to get Windows 10 to work on Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Band had been disbanded. So I think. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So yeah I think I think you know that the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,idea was let's make this part of the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 10 family right. Like everything \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else has everything else is running what \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the core of Windows 10 the Common Core. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why not have the band do that too but \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for whatever reasons they decided that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was going to work not feasible. And so \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe it's they go back to the drawing \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,board. Now come up with a new wearable \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is Windows 10 core from the get go.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Yeah I was thinking as you were \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about other wearables which Brad \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who I work with has heard as well. I was \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking you know they have to be looking \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Window 10 this is the point you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the universal platform that they can add Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to the list of targets you can have \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a developer. I think that has to…\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) Me too!\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'm just I'm still not really sold on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the wearable tech and I've covered it \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extensively. I’ve had a bunch of really \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good pieces of tech in my lab but \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ultimately I don't want anything on my \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrist in fact this is you mentioned \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,battery life this is the problem with \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the technology that was \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generously donated by Leo Laporte. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically because I waited for him to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remove things from his office to go on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the free table and I just followed ‘em \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got myself a modem 360. It's a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantastic piece of tech but because I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take it off and because you have to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,charge it on that little awkward docking \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,station. I sometimes forget it \Non my lap table. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So you were just saying do you have a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,band and I went upstairs and change I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually took the FitBit off and left it \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up to my bedroom. So I actually normally \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have it on but right now it's not. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's just a coincidence but the problem \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have with that exact advice you're \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about. I have one as well. The \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Moto 360 or the Apple Watch is that these \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you would get you would get used to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it because if you just use the one device \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's as a kind of a strap that you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have. Kind of connected everything it's a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fairly you know you balance the thing on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your wrist and you turn to try and not \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know it it's because I test different \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,devices like I sometimes don't spend \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough time with any one device like the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fitbit is very simple to class the Apple \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watch I find in the Moto 360. You know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to get used to it right. It's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of like tying shoes you have to do \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it a bunch of times you know so you can \Nget good at it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I have to think adventurously I would \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get used to it because I wore a watch for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first 20 years of my life but since \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I just I don't want to hitting on my \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrist it just feels weird even, even \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after a couple of hours of it being on my \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrist I still feel it there. I still want \Nto take it off. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I wear regular watch still and I feel \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weird when I don't have it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) What do you do with that?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I actually use it to tell time. I know \Nwhat a thought. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-And I thought watches only do things \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like give you really abbreviated versions \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the text messages so that you have to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reach in your pocket to take out \Nyour phone Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) And that’s why I don’t need one\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I used to, you know. When people got \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,laptops and then smart phones. You know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get into that kind of meeting joke \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where like people are sitting there doing \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their own thing on their devices and not \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paying attention to whatever the person \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is speaking or saying. And that's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,considered rude it might be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unprofessional whatever and so you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the big defenses about a wearable \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is like you know if you're a smart watch \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can casually glance down at your \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watch it’s not as obvious or as terrible \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as looking at like a phone screen or \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tablet or a P.C. or whatever but you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think nothing signals to the people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're talking to that your not attention \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than when you do this kind of thing, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like really. And now you know I mean it's \Njust…\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Or it looks like you're bored right and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're like ugh is this over yet?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-We almost done here? We'll\Nwrap this up soon. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I do. I love sitting at a table when \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone's wearing a smartwatch and I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think, you could tell they don't want to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be rude but their eyes keep going down in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their wrists like this, you know like I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know what you're doing just take out \Nyour phone man. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You should just start asking Siri \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,questions. (laughing) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Siri delete that e-mail. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah. As my daughter once did she walked \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into my office and she said Xbox off. \N(laughing) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-And actually across the Internet there \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are cries of anguish because people are \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching Windows Weekly while playing \NGears Of War. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Cortana, What’s the weather? \N(laughing) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Oh, no! You know, I don’t know. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understand that wearables have a bright \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,future I understand that it's a big \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,profit center. I understand it has to be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a part of any cloud strategy because it's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a great way to get data metrics but I'm \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still not completely sold. Go figure! \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anything else about wearables or should \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,move on to Cloud?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Sorry I was just looking at my \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smart watch I missed what you just said. \N(laughing) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's about right. Are we done \Nwith wearables? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah, let's talk cloud Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Let's talk cloud because this actually \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is exciting interesting and worthy of a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,post-mortem. What happened?. Microsoft \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suffered a major cloud hic up and a few \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people picked up on it quickly and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually Mary Jo, you were one of the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very first who was able to confirm that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was outages of various Azure \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,services. What happened?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah I didn't, it wasn't any kind of a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great, great thing that I did. Also I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came on Twitter last Thursday morning and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody was tweeting to me like as \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Azure is down. It's a huge outage so I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looked at the status page and they were \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having a giant D.M.S. outage for Azure So \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that took down ended up taking down like \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost every Azure service or at least Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,limiting service on it. I mean everything \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was going down as Azure media services, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Azure search HDInsight, everything, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything was it was like a cascading \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing and then there were no workarounds \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being posted and people were just saying \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can’t do anything. I'm like totally \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuck. I cannot do anything. I'm just \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sitting here twiddling my thumbs. So \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after a couple of hours. Microsoft got \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DNS back up but then in the central part \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the United States. People were still \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having sequel outages. Then after \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything seemed to be solved. I started \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting people tweeting me about OneDrive \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being down and I don't know if the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OneDrive part was connected to the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,original DNS outage because parts of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OneDrive do run on Azure. I never could \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confirm that was connected but it seemed \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be right around the same time and that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outage hit a number of people in Europe \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the US, I think also India for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number, a number of hours and Microsoft \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn't say anything about that one and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't get anything just that we know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some customers are experiencing problems \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're working on it. That's it. So if \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you if you want to know more about the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifics about what happened and what \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft saying they're going to do \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going forward to try to prevent this. If \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you go to the as Azure status page that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could you could just search for that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as your status page and you look up in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the history September 15th. You'll be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to see the whole poll postmortem and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dissection of what went wrong and what \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they intend to do to try to sure that up \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going forward. It wasn't a good day.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It wasn't a good day and I think the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,official position was that it was a spike \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Network traffic that brought down DNS \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I mean suspiciously sounds like \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's was attacked and that's what \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially some people thought. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Some people thought that. Some people \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were like it must be a denial service? \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m like well I don't know if it is but \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're not saying it that's what it is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but who knows? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'm with you at the far more \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting part of the story is not that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there could have been a denial of service \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against Microsoft DNS because that could \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happen anywhere. The more interesting \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part is the services that are actually \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,linked together by Azure. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-It does give you a sneak peek into some Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the inner workings that Microsoft Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been very recalcitrant to explain. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) Right. We know there are tons Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of services available on Azure if you go Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on at the Azure page you can see they Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have so many different products now Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working on Azure plus a bunch of other Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,services that are parts of things like not Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of Xbox Live runs on Azure but some Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pieces of it do to so when Azure has a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,major problem. It affects pretty much Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything. Office 365. I mean they're Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connected in there too, so you know when Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have something like a DNS outage Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pretty dire and something they needed to\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fix as quickly as possible. I will give \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them credit that they were giving people\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very regular updates but the updates \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weren't very encouraging. It's like yeah\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know this is down and we're trying \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to fix it. That was kind of it. Least, at\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,least they were acknowledging they knew\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were working on it because \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes the health dashboard goes down\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to in Azure then you, it looks, when you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look at it like everything's good. But \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing's working so at least this time. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was not the case. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Right and the thing about Azure is, it \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a self healing network and it should \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be able to route around problems and the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fact that it did come back up relatively \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quickly for such a large network that is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a testament to the technology but there \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is no such thing as a network that cannot \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be brought down. There's always going to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be and as long as it's using the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,networking protocols that we have today. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can take it down, if you want if you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had enough resources but, but Paul let me \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ask you about this. There was a saying in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the early days of cloud computing in the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,early days of say like the Google \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chromebook that. Oh this sounds like a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good idea to move everything into the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cloud until you lose internet Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connectivity and then that one bad day \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes the entire investment worthless. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was the bad day. This was business \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the middle of the workday not being \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to access Office 365, their OneDrive \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to different degrees. Does this, did this \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kill it, did this make it an incredibly \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bad day and now it makes the \Ninvestment useless? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-No I, you know the thing that's always \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lost in these discussions is that. Cloud \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,computing is not an all or nothing affair \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you talk about things like e-mail or \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously if it's cloud hosted I mean it \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Cloud Hosted, even before we had a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cloud. If that thing is down, its down. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s nothing to do about that but you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know your data should be synced to your \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,client, your application should be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running on your P.C. I mean as an \NOffice 365 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,user you should have access to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,functionality and so it's not that it's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not all or nothing. You know and I still \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that the promise of the cloud is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,met by today's infrastructure you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that it can only get better with more \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pervasive contact of it sort of course Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I don't know. Honestly for all of the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of Chicken Little stuff that goes on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with cloud computing even today these \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things are kind of rare aren't they. I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean we don't really have weekly \NOffice 365 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or Gmail outages it doesn't really \Nwork that way. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-No. I think one thing the bug a bunch of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people in Europe about this one last week \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the week before that there had been a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pretty not, not as pervasive but another \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outage that affected Azure and people \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like wow twice and two weeks what the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heck Microsoft you know come on. So I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agree it isn't something happens every \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day and I don't think it's a reason to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just abandon cloud computing or say oh \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's why I'm not doing the cloud \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you know your own company's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,servers go down to it if you're running \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your own servers. But I think I think the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fact that those two things happen back to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back got some of the people especially in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Europe kind of agitated and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understandably so. Yeah. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You know this is why you've got a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,company like VMware which has admittedly \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had some bad years as they've, as people \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been moving away from virtual machines \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into containers. But they're betting \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything on their N S X platform and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the NSX platform ensures a way for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enterprises to be able to do hybrid \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deployment so On-Premise and not just \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On-Premise and cloud but On-Premise and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in multi cloud in other words they want \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make it as easy to run in Azure and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AWS and Google Web services and the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,premise at the same time so that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theoretically as long as your network is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up has some sort of connectivity. You \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should still be able to continue working \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I, you know I think we're going to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see more of the big players including \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft who will take that that view of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will let you run your Azure services \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on another web service to give you that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measure of security that you will always Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be able to get to it even if one of these \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,services goes, goes down. I see that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being becoming popular. Or no? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah, I hadn’t heard about that actually \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that's kind of an interesting thing \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something to listen for next week. See if \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft talks about that at Ignited\Nat all. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah it will be uh. It will be a brave, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brave new world. Speaking of a brave new \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world. There was a story that we actually \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talked about the last time I stepped in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Leo I think it was back in June of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft announcing a new Azure service \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was in Germany and the big news \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about that was it would be entirely in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Germany. So all the data would be stored \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Germany they would never allow any of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the data to go to a data center that was \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not in Germany because Germany has really \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good privacy laws and Microsoft is saying \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will not even have access to it. We're \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to give everything to a caretaker \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,third party in Germany. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Can I say Ick bin ein Berliner \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Ick bin ein.. yeah if you were a citizen \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the cloud you were a citizen of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Germany and I say to you, Ick bin ein \NAzurler. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Azulier (laughing)\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-But Paul what's…what’s this all about. \NIt's finally out?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This is..oh I don't, I have no idea \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what this is. This is Mary\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah this is me.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) I’ve heard of Germany Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-So right. You've heard of Germany. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughing) So today is the day that this \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new Microsoft region in Germany. There's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two data centers that and that it \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually was turned on an open for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business. So um, yeah it's a big data \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sovereignty story like you just said \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Padre it's something you know Microsoft \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hasn't been able to completely block \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,access to customer's data from \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,governments when requested and that's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what their whole Ireland case is about \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they've been fighting there but \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're trying to kind of get around this \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in different ways and this German data \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,center idea where T. systems which is a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deutsche Telecom subsidiary is acting as \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the data trustee in this data center is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming to play. So if you, you can decide \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want Microsoft to be the one \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accessing the data there or you can say \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no I don't even want Microsoft in here. I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want, I want T systems to be my \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,administration here in Germany. So any \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Azure service that can run in these data \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,centers is going to have the same \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protection. So for example IOT. IOT is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running in these data centers I believe \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Office 365 also so you'll still have that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,benefit an offer of having an external \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trustee be the one administering your \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,data and the data will stay on premises \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there in Germany. So kind of cool, kind \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of like a workaround for Microsoft to try \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say you know what we're taking your Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,privacy seriously people and here's what \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're trying to do to get to kind of. Not \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get around the law but find another \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creative way to ensure data sovereignty. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I don't think they're getting around \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the law. I think they're trying to fill \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the void where the law has \Nnot caught up Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) Exactly! Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The great some very high profile cases \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involving Microsoft and data security \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the most high profile of them would \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be the case in Ireland about whether or \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not a U.S. court could compel Microsoft \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give them information that was stored \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a server that was on the land of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another sovereign country. And Ireland \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a little bit iffy because they were \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going back and forth about what was \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowed by treaty and what was not but \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Germany. It's very clear. You cannot \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,step onto German sovereign soil and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demand something from a data center and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's why Microsoft's set this up. But \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's going to, who's going to buy this? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who's, who's going to want the service? \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who's going to demand the service? \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I think a lot of customers in Europe, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right? For sure. I've even had people \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asking me if I'm not based in Germany \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could I transfer my data from another \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,data center to this one and I don't know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the answer to that I think I did ask \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft that but I haven't heard back. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So people, I think people are very Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested and curious about \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how that's going to work.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'd be surprised a lot. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) I would too but, yeah we’ll see\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Actually P.S. chops in the chat room \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has an interesting point. He says as the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,law catches up. We could have a data \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,privacy Cold War you have different Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,countries saying well I mean if you let \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them into the data for our citizens we’ll \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let them into the data for your citizens. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh I would say right. It will also have \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a situation where who's going to be the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cayman Islands of or the Switzerland of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know data storage Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Bellencer) Data’s the new curtsey. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–They not gonna let anyone in. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-And then you'll have, you'll have the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,country saying well if we didn't do this. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another country would so we're just \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,providing a service that's necessary . \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wait did we just come up with a new data \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,laundering scheme?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah -I think we did\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Will I have to declare my data for a, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for tax purposes? Is this is how this is \Ngoing to work? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-They may. -I don't like this. All right. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what we talked enough about \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enterprise I want to get into some gaming \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and only, if only there was a member of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this panel who knew something \Nabout gaming. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I'm ready. Let's go. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– Go, Mary Jo I understand you're \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a big uh, Gears of War fan right Mary Jo? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh yes I am Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-You're all about the shooting and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what weapons do they have in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gears of War? I don't even know this game.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) What weapons? -I'm assuming \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's some guns and some knifes right?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) Cats. I think there are cats.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I get Cats. Cats are ultimate weapon. \NNo but Paul... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) And some chainsaws.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Can you tell me a little bit about the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Xbox S and their Minecraft bundle because \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft has been conquering the\Nworld with Minecraft. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Mine.. Yes they are. You know since the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Xbox One S. came out in early August \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've been kind of bulking out the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lineup with different bundles you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have a Gears of War 4 bundle for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example which is ridiculous looking but \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Minecraft one looks really good \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually. Especially if you haven't \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bought into this yet in the Microsoft \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ecosystem because it's no much. It's no \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more expensive than the normal console. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you get the game for free. Obviously \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an Xbox 1, you get the game for free on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 10 and then you get a bunch of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,favorites and builders packs just you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know downloadable content that you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,normally would have to pay for. All \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bundled into this thing and so for $300 \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bucks I mean this is actually it's a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great deals and then Minecraft is amazing \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so if you've never experienced \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Minecraft I mean this is a great way to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get into it. So that's kind of a cool \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one. And then the Gears of War 4 news is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the game was completed this week. So \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's gone gold. It's being released in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,October and if you preorder it. You can \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,play it. I think it's four days early so \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe it comes out on October 11th \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and those who preordered it. I don't know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if probably digitally obviously. Can \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start playing it on the 7th and so this \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a new kind of a rejiggering of the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,story you know so there was a trilogy of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gears of War games that came out on Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Xbox 360 was made by a third party Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developer Who, why can’t I think of the\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name of the company? That's crazy! \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't matter they sold\Nit to Microsoft Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so now Microsoft and using this. \NSay again? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Oh Mojang Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-No Gears of War – Oh Gears of War, Oh!\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wasn’t that just 360 studios? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–No it was the Cliff Bleszinski guys. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh it kills me when I can’t think of stuff Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) \NBungee? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–No, Bungee’s Halo Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–I’m just guessing.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Oh, um was it the same studio that did \NBio Shock? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Nope. (laughing) this is embarrassing. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So anyway whoever it was. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) Let’s just keep guessing. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Bellencer) Atari? \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) Epic games? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Wow! Epic Games. So they did the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,original trilogy on the 360, it was \Na 360 exclusive. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well it was a Microsoft, it's a, the first Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gears of War game actually shipped on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows and then they did the 360 version \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so now on the Xbox 1, we have the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,original game is available remastered the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other games are available backwards Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compatibility and now we're getting a new \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forth game which takes place you know 20 \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years later there's you know, you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the story. All hell breaks loose etc, etc Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's a pretty big deal because \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know exclusives kind of drive console \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sells and so forth so Microsoft has had \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Halo and Gears two and so Gears have a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new series of Gears games coming out for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Xbox 1 is kind of a big deal. So we \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shall see. Someone included with us in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,software. Nope!\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's kind of interesting that's \NOctober 11th Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's also a big day for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dynamics 365. I’m just saying. \N-Yikes. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah I'm sure that's not coincidental. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'm sure it's not. (laughing)\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Well I mean dynamics is one of the most \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,profitable division in Microsoft \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,currently has. So, I mean naturally. ou \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see the tie in, right? Well let me ask\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you this we're thinking about doing a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little Gears of War thing here at the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,studio because Lee has got his Xbox. I've \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually got an Xbox 1S on its way along \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Gears of War when it comes out but I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be in Rome. So it's shipping to me \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Rome. We're all going to have our \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little Kingston Gears of War branded \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headsets. I think we need a death match. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah OK. I'm not great at death match I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will say um.. Gears of War, those games, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the single player stuff has been really \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good, a story has been good for the most \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part. The death match stuff, if you're \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really used to the fast moving kind of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twitchy. You know Call of Duty type stuff \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a little more grounded. They've got \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it a little bit more vertical over the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years but you know especially the first \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game, you kinda crouch low to the ground \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was pretty much where you stayed \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I'm not I'm not great at it but. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Well I mean if you play with us. I'll \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try to get Pope Francis on the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,controller. I've heard that he can frag \Nlike nobody else. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I just want to hear him swear like a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sailor. That will be the best part. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Gears of War is pretty good but the one \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was most impressed with at E3 and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one that I really, really want to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,play is Cup Head because that looks \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantastic. And I know, I know Paul that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you love that game. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well actually I will say even Mary Jo \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is looking forward to it.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I was curious about that one, actually.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I kind of you know like forty style \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,animation. Things like that.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's steam boat Willy.\N–Yeah \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- There were a few. There was the ship of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thieves or ship of, yeah ship of,\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ship of Thieves or Sea of Thieves?! Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) I’m not sure. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-There were a few at E3 that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually were kind of interesting. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) -3D Realms. No it wasn't 3D Realms,\Nsorry. (laughing) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Are we back to just naming off studios?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Yeah I don’t know Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-All right, well when we come back it's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time for tips and picks to close out the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show but first let's go ahead and thank \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another sponsor of this episode of \NWindows Weekly. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now let me ask a question. Do you need Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,money? of course you need money. Everyone \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needs money maybe it's to buy a new \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,house. Maybe it's to start a business and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way that you normally get that is by \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leveraging what you already own with a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mortgage. Now a mortgage is the most fun \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will ever have No I'm just kidding it \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a horrible process. The idea of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gathering together all your receipts, all Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you little financial transactions. So Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you could bring them into a bank lay Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them out on a desk and try to prove to a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passionate bank manager that you're a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good investment that you're worthy of a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mortgage that's probably the worst \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible thing that you could do with a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weekend. Well folks don't do that anymore \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there's a new way and that way is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. Now \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rocket Mortgage brings the mortgage \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approval process into the 21st century. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all, it's fast, it's powerful \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's completely online I mean this is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way that it should be Rocket Mortgages\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taken all of the complicated time \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consuming parts of applying for a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mortgage out of the equation. Do you hate \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,searching for those stacks of old files \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and paperwork? You don't have to do with \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rocket mortgage you can easily share your \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bank statements and your pay stubs a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,touch of a button. It helps you get \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approval in minutes instead of days, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weeks and months that gives you a custom \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mortgage solution that's been tailored \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you. No longer do you have to fit \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into this cookie cutter template of what \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a mortgage will be. Rocket Mortgage looks \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at your finances and helps you find the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mortgage that works for you. Now even \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better with Rocket Mortgage you can do \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of this on your phone or your tablet \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you get to work where you want to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work. It's a quick online process that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can manage from the convenience of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your couch. If you are looking at doing a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mortgage and you're not using Rocket \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mortgage, you're working too hard. Folks \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you need to refinance your mortgage or \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buy a home check out Rocket Mortgage \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today at QuickenLoans.com/windows\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's QuickenLoans.com/windows \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Equal Housing Lender, licensed \Nin all 50 states Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NMLSconsumeraccess.org number 30 30 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we thank Rock Mortgage by \NQuicken Loans Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their support of Windows Weekly. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright. I always get confused by \Nthe Q. and A Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's the Q. and who does the A.? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I don't even know if we need to \Ndo a Q. and A today Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we have so much in the picks.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh yeah actually I love your picks this \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was an interesting one. I saw this and I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was wondering where we were going to go \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with it but let’s just find out. D. Apple \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find your iPhone, I don't even know\Nwhat that means. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh well let me explain. \NI'm a Microsoft guy Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously right? I’ve been writing \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Microsoft technology products for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,20 something years. I approached things \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from kind of a Microsoft standpoint but I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think it's fair to say that in the \Nmobile world. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things have gone in a slightly \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different direction and so like Microsoft \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,itself you know we kind of have to adapt \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know before Microsoft shipped \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows Phone I was an iPhone user \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Windows Mobile was so terrible. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used Windows phone for several years \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously things have kind of fallen \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apart over the past couple years and so \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've spent a lot of time looking at \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Android and iPhone and I would say to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who are Microsoft people you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft fans, or Microsoft users, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,customers whatever. Android is probably \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the closest thing you're going to get to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Microsoft type experience but more \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important because the system can be, you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know adapted and customize so much you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can change the lock screen, the launcher \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screen. I mean it basically everything \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about it. It affords you the opportunity \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have a real Microsoft experience Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Microsoft makes lock screens and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,launchers and you know keyboards and all \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kinds of things for Android so you can \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a real Microsoft experience on the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,internet but people who use iPhones do so \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a reason. There are good reasons to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own an iPhone you might get one from \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work, you might have to have one and so \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been using an iPhone for years \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really. In fact I've owned I've owned \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost every iPhone model that Apple has \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever ship I've only didn't purchase two \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of them but I've always worked very hard \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to kind of keep the distance from some of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Apple products and services. I don't \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use things like Apple music or iCloud or \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Siri or any of that kind of stuff and so \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wrote an article about this but I've \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been doing a series of tips about using \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Android from kind of the perspective of a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft guy. I have written a few \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,articles like this for iPhone but not Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nearly as many and so recently I kind of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,summarized a bunch of thoughts around \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it's like to use an iPhone from a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows or Microsoft user perspective and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know again you can't, there's not \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much, you can't change the launcher \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screen, you can't, you know there's no \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft lock screen that you can \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,install you kind of stuck with some \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aspects of it because that's you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what Apple does but actually iOS is open \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up you can change the keyboard you can do \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,swift key which Microsoft owns you want \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do that and Microsoft, all of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft's high profile apps are on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,iPhone as well. And so the point of this \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just that you don't have to give up \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your soul. Per se to use an iPhone. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-No I think buying an iPhone you kind of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gave it up already. But I’m just saying. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Actually, so by the way that's more fair \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than ever because with this version of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the iPhone the availability was so \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,limited that I had to get a gold version \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh I can tell you that was not a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,proud moment. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Rose gold or just plain gold? \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-No I didn’t go rose gold but I do end up \Nbuying gold. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Isn’t that actually part of the price? \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You do give your credit card and a piece \Nof your soul.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–And a piece of your soul, yeah I guess. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Literally one pound you know. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-How much does the human soul weigh? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) One pound. – Is it one pound? Well Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good because I know I can give away a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couple of grams and still be good. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yeah mine's a little fatty. But it's \Ngood eating. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Actually I just got all my \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blood work back and I am surprisingly in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good health and I didn't expect that. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) That's good. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Except for my triglycerides I guess \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pork rinds are really bad for you. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) I'm somewhat surprised by that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you eat them in like a cheese bath or ?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,– No, I bathe in them. (Paul) Oh,yes!\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I sleep in a bed of pork rinds. (laughing)\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) That's it's good for the skin. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-It's for that fresh pork smell you know. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right so we've got a D. Apple find \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your iPhone. We've got an app pick of the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,week. Who's got fire watch? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) I do. So, I have a bunch of epics. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the big one is yes fire watch. So fire Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watch is a game that ship like I think Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,last year on PlayStation 4 and also in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,P.C. through Steam. I played through day \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one on Raphael’s PlayStation just to kind \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of give it a shot. I really, really enjoy \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this game and so just today. Literally it \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shipped on Xbox 1 you can get it now on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft's platform and so same exact \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game it's a wonderful game it's kind of a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's kind of a like interactive adventure \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically it is there's a mystery and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's got beautiful graphics and you know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immersive sound and all that kind of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff but it's I mention that when I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talked about this on the podcast just a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,few weeks ago I said I'm going to try to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get my wife and daughter to play this I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think this is a game that would, is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compelling to people who don't play video \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,games in the same way that a you know a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mystery series or something which is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting to people I think people can \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get into this. So it's a great, great \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,story. It's a really neat game and the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Xbox One version has some unique stuff as \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an audio tour and when you finish the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game you can actually free roam around \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the environment you can see the whole \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world that they created for the game. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa. Bellencer) This looks a little like \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mist. It's got, it's looks like it's got \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that same sort of artistic. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Don't ever compare this\Nto mist again. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughing) No it’s a.. OK well I guess \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I would say is, you know mist for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the day was seemed photo realistic Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess I'm sure we would look\Nat the quite \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same way today. This obviously has a bit \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a I don't want to say cartoon but it's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clearly graphics like they don't attempt Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pull you into thinking that this is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know real photograph quality graphics \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that the graphics are beautiful. It's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a beautiful game. You know really really \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well done the whole thing, the whole \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presentation is great .\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa. Bellencer) It's not a horror\Ngame is it?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul ) No but this is a mystery. It's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, it's the type of thing where you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know you show up at your new job out in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the woods and you go investigate what's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going on when you come back. Someone has \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ransacked the tower that you live in and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know the music kind of kicks in like \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tick, tick, tick, you know. You can tell \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like it's getting a little stressful \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like what's going on here. And so it's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just it's a mystery that you uncover.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Bellencer) As long as the Slender man \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn’t jump out. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Well it's sort of, sort of does.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Oh really? (Paul laughs) Not exactly. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just a few other things I want to throw \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out for apps because a bunch of stuff \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happened this week. I do an app race and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mobile app pick of the week, and a Skype \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preview app. We’ve already talked about \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this but if you're on the insider program \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's certainly worth looking at. I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,haven't gotten it to work but I know \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people have if you're interested in the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SMS relay stuff that is available if you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have both Windows 10 and Windows 10 \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mobile. Microsoft has also updated a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bunch of its mobile apps on the Internet \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,IOS and so on Android, Word, Excel and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Power Point, the kind of the core apps \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have much simpler sharing capabilities \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now and also I can’t … here and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collaboration features and in OneDrive. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't actually, it's funny I read the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,description of the new OneDrive app on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,IOS and I don't think the graph. I don't \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think graphically looks any different. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That they're calling it a file centric \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,U.I. or whatever but it looks the same to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me but there's a new me tab and a U.I. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that lets you access all of your account \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,information and a bunch of other stuff Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was just hidden away before so \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's kind of cool and then the new \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Outlook.com which by the way I still \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't have I think I'm on what are we on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the day 457 or something. If you have it. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know Mary Jo does. They've added Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,integrated support for a Google Drive and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Facebook photos meaning that if you're \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to, if you're sending out an e-mail \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Hey I just went on this great vacation. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here are some photos.” You can pull those \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,photos in from other services now include \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know the Google Drive and Facebook \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,photo. I'd love to test that feature \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft. If you're listening. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-They're calling it OneDrive For Life. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Yep. (laughing)\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) You're going to be the last one \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the very, very last one to get \Nthe new Outlook. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Now that you've asked for it, that's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how that works. Sorry it's a rule. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) Yep\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) I observed on Twitter, the other \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day that hearing that other people have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new Outlook.com is like when you're Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at war and you find out that the buddy \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're in a foxhole with is going home \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're happy for him and in one way \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you're also like you're really upset \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with him you know because he's leaving \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're not you know I mean it's the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same kind of weird mixed feeling.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-So what Paul is telling us is if any of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get the new outlook. He will Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul and Fa Bellencer) Shoot you\Nin the back. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) He wants to know immediately. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-This is good. This is good to know good \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,information. Mary Jo fully your \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enterprise picks of the week. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-OK so my enterprise pick is going to be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what to think about and look for next \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,week at the Ignite show that Microsoft's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having in Atlanta. Paul and I are going Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be there a lot of other journalists Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be there but looking ahead I'll tell Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you what I think we're going to hear a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot about. So it's very interesting to, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Ignite this year, there is only one \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day of keynotes. The morning keynote \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starts at 9:00 A.M. on Monday \NSeptember 26th. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It goes till 10:30. Microsoft's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be webcasting that and then \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's an afternoon keynote which is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 to 5 on the same day. That's it for \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keynotes. So there's going to be a lot of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recording of all the different sessions \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Ignite and it'll be up on Channel Nine Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft Channel Nine. I think we're Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to hear this is this is kind of a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no brainer. A lot about \NWindows Server 2016 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there because that's where \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft's going to quote launch the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,product. It won't be available that week, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is next week but right after it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you know first second week of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,October. You'll see it starting to be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generally available. So expect a lot of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows Server 2016 all the new stuff \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's happening with containers in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows 7 2016 we’ll hear a lot. We’ll \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably also hear a lot about nano \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,server which is a new role for a stripped \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down role in Windows 7 2016 next week. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to hear a lot about Azure \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stack. Azure stack is basically Azure \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can run in your own data center \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that your club provider can run in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their data center for you. I think maybe Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'll hear about Technical Preview two of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Azure stack next week it will be around \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the right time and Microsoft said \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recently that Azure stack won't actually \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be available until mid-2017. So it's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running late. But I think, I think they \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do want to get the Technical Preview out \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there there's a lot of sessions about \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Azure stack. I think there's going to be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some meet ups and they'll be a big \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,representation for Azure stack. Also we \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,haven't said this word on Windows Weekly \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lately, Data Lake's I know every wanted \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hear it. So I think next week. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exactly. You're going to hear a lot about \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Data Lakes. Everyone drink! Data Lake is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the big data repository technology that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft had in previews since last Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,September. I think maybe at Ignite we're \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to hear them talk about Data Lake \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies being generally available so \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'll hear a lot of big data talk a lot \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Hadoop talk probably will be tied in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with some of the data summit \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presentations that are happening \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simultaneously with that Ignite in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Atlanta next week. More probably more \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Microsoft's data scientists degree \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,program which they gave a little sneak \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peek of at the world wide Partner \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Conference. I think the first class they \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,graduated from that degree program is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be announced or somehow \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,represented at Ignite. That's my guess, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Microsoft said that that group of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people would be graduating in September. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're in September. Still I think that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could happen next week and then there's a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing that I've talked about before in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the show called open mind studio which I \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think is kind of like Visual Studio \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except for machine learning. I would be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very surprised if we don't hear about \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that next week too. So all of these \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things and more. I'm sure. Probably a lot \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of office Content Officer 365, Office \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Crack, Share Point all your favorite \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Office topics will be there as well and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've said this before. Paul and I are \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing Windows Weekly live next week with \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Padre from Ignite at our usual time\N2:00 P.M. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on September 28th, 2:00 P.M. Eastern \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we finally know a better meet up Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or meet up is going to be held on the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,28th right after the show. It's going to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be 5:00 to 8:00 P.M. It's at a bar craft \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beer bar called Argosy A R G O S Y in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Atlanta. And I guess it's the Argosy East \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,version of Argosy So if even if you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aren't at Ignite and you don't have a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,badge you can still come to our meet up \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at 5:00 to 8:00 P.M We've tweeted out \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about it a couple times more about it. So \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,definitely if you're an Atlanta or near. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can come and join us there. And while \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking about events. I want to throw \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one more Paul and I also are going to be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Las Vegas the last week of October. At \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a couple of shows that are held together \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called DEVintersection and IT Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intersection. We're going to be speaking \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there too and probably will have a meet \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up there. If you want to know more about \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there's a lot of really good \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft speakers. Stephen Guggenheim is \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be there. Scott Hanselman and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who else. Brad Anderson a lot of big \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft names plus a lot of the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M.V.P.'s and big well known speakers in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the community there. DVEintersection.com \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can find out more there. So that's my \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mega enterprise pick for the week.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That is a lot of picks. Of course we've \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got Ignite coming up. So that's expected. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it close us out we've got the code \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name Pick of the week and the beer pick \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the week which I'm actually looking \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forward to because we're going to be \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing a beer episode of know how. I may \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not drink beer but I do like the smell. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughing) OK so, should I do \Nthe code name now? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Do it\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Code name pick of the week is \NProject Bletchley Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yes it is named after that Bletchley Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you know what I'm talking \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about here. Let's see the one in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bletchley Park in England. So this, what \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,project Bletchley is… is Microsoft's code \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name for Azure block chain as a service \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,middleware. So, since last year, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft's been trying to work out a way \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make Azure blocked, Azure block chain \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a service be something that people \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might use in various industries not just \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for bitcoin mining and all but also in a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of enterprises especially banking and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finance because what is blocked chain \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's actually a distributed Ledger Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology so that makes sense in a lot Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of different enterprise type \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applications. What they decided to do was \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to use Azure technologies to make \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it easier for people to build \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applications that could take advantage of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,block chain as a service. So they came up \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this idea of project Bletchley in \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,July. They put out a white paper and said \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“This is how we think this might work.” \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This week they actually put out what they \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are calling version one of project \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bletchley. What it is…is a template. So \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,version one's just a template basically, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's a pretty powerful template. It's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a template that is made to help people \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,figure out how to kind of on board into \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Project Bletchley. I wrote a blog post Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this. I have a whole bunch of links \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with different things about The Cryptlets \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology that's part of the Project \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bletchley, how that works and \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,architectural diagrams for people like \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that stuff. And Microsoft has a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walk-through of how to use this template \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if you want to just start kicking the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tires now and seeing what is this thing \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you're blotching as a service. You can \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start doing that now through this \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,template that is available through the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Azure Resource Manager portal. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the code name. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Whoot, fantastic. And of course we got \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do the beer pick of the week right?\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah so this is a very interesting bear \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pick. Stone Brewing, San Diego area, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes a lot of excellent beers of all \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kinds. They have a very famous series of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beers that they've done called the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vertical Epic series. So every year like \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on February second. The second of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,February which is 2/2/2002 they put out a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beer. That was called the Stone Vertical \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Epic series 2/22 they did one in 3/33, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4/44 and these are huge collector's items \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like people pay hundreds of dollars to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try to get these old very rare beers from \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stone so that they can have different \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taste from the Vertical Epic series so Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stone being the smart burgers that they \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are decided on their 20th anniversary to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remake some of these famous beers that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've brewed over the years and one of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first that they remade is the 2/22 \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vertical Epic. So they call this the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stone 20th anniversary encore series this \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is 2/22 and 2/22 I've had it a couple of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times I've had the original and I've also \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had this remake. It's really good Paul \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would love this. I know strong Belgian \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Golden Ale like all the things you love \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a Belgian beer. It's almost like a \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strong wheat beer. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) It’s pretty much all the\Nthings I love. Period. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Mary Jo) It is pretty much, right? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Orange flavoring very effervescent, very it's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not light like a lot of wheats because \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a strong Belgian but around 7%, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really good really, really good and the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remake I can tell you is equally good. So \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you see this Vertical Epic. Series \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called The Encore Series, definitely give \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it a try and know 88/8 is also available \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now and I think will be others coming out.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-There you have it. All the news that's \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worth having if you're a Microsoft fan. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul Thurrott, Mary Jo Foley, thank you \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very much for making this an entertaining \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enjoyable and very informative two hours. \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul Thurrott of course again behind \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thurrott.com. Paul, what are you working \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on, what should people be heading over \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thurrott.com to find? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) What am I working on? I can't \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell you that. (laughing)\N(Fa Bellencer) Can you hint? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) No I mean I… No. (laughing) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Bellencer) Your silence says it all. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) We’re in the middle of a… \Nwe're rolling out like a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,premium service on the site and so I've \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been a little preoccupied with a bunch of \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that stuff lately so it's coming soon. \NThat's all I can say. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Fa Bellencer) So just go to thurrott.com Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and find everything there is to know Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the man who writes the book. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that would be a slogan. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I were making slogans that would be Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the slogan I would come up for you.\N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Paul) Not quite as good as the Man With \NNo Name but yeah. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- A woman who does have a name \Nis Mary Jo Foley Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course of the “All About…” always Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say Android but it really is Windows Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“All About Windows” blog over at Z.D.Net. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mary Jo you always are my source \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Microsoft happenings in the \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enterprise anything interesting going on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your side that you're particularly\Njazzed about? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I'm just I'm like really jazzed about Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ignite next week because I think they'll \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be some pretty cool enterprise \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,announcements. And it's going to be great \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're right there on the ground with \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the big guys like Mark Russinovich, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Snover all the who's who. So I think \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'll have some really good news stories \Nnext week. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Fantastic! Again thank you for making my \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,job that much easier by being absolutely \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brilliant and entertaining hosts. Don't \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forget that we do Windows Weekly here on \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Twit T.V. every Wednesday at Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,11:00 o'clock P.M. Pacific. 1:00, no\N2:00 Eastern. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not good at this Leo does \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the time zones. All I know is come to \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,live.twit.tv and you can watch and as \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long as you're watching live why not jump \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the chat room at irc.twit.tv \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a good way to talk to the host, \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk to me and just enjoy the experiment \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is Twit T.V. Also don't forget that \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can find us at our show page \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twit.tv/ww In case you want to download \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some back episodes check the show notes \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or maybe even subscribe. If you want to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support the show that really is the best \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way to do it. Of course you can also find \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows Weekly wherever fine podcasts are \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aggregated till next time and Father \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robert Bellencer in for Leo Laporte we're \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be coming to you live from \N Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsoft Ignite next week but until then \Ntake your with Newsweek.