WEBVTT 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:04.376 So when I decided to create an art piece in Manshiyat Naser, 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:07.376 the neighborhood of the Cairo garbage collectors in Egypt, 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:09.216 I never thought this project would be 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:11.920 the most amazing human experience that I would ever live. 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:15.336 As an artist, I had this humanist intention 00:00:15.360 --> 00:00:17.736 of beautifying a poor and neglected neighborhood 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:22.840 by bringing art to it and hopefully shining light on this isolated community. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:27.616 The first time I heard about this Christian Coptic community 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:33.056 was in 2009 when the Egyptian authorities under the regime of Hosni Mubarak 00:00:33.080 --> 00:00:38.880 decided to slaughter 300,000 pigs using the pretext of H1N1 virus. 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:41.496 Originally, they are pig breeders. 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.696 Their pigs and other animals are fed with the organic waste 00:00:44.720 --> 00:00:46.696 that they collect on a daily basis. 00:00:46.720 --> 00:00:48.480 This event killed their livelihood. 00:00:49.080 --> 00:00:52.536 The first time I entered Manshiyat Naser, it felt like a maze. 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:56.256 I was looking for the St. Simon Monastery on the top of the Muqattam Mountain. 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.456 So you go right, then straight, then right again, then left 00:00:59.480 --> 00:01:01.176 to reach all the way to the top. 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:05.616 But to reach there, you must dodge between the trucks overpacked with garbage 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:07.216 and slalom between the tuk-tuks, 00:01:07.240 --> 00:01:10.440 the fastest vehicle to move around in the neighborhood. 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:14.176 The smell of the garbage unloaded from those trucks was intense, 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.576 and the noise of the traffic was loud and overbearing. 00:01:17.600 --> 00:01:22.280 Add to it the din created by the crushers in those warehouses along the way. 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:27.360 From outside it looks chaotic, but everything is perfectly organized. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:28.600 --> 00:01:31.056 The Zaraeeb, that’s how they call themselves, 00:01:31.080 --> 00:01:32.616 which means the pig breeders, 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:35.016 have been collecting the garbage of Cairo 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:37.816 and sorting it in their own neighborhood for decades. 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:39.976 They have developed one of the most efficient 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:43.296 and highly profitable systems on a global level. 00:01:43.320 --> 00:01:47.936 Still, the place is perceived as dirty, marginalized and segregated 00:01:47.960 --> 00:01:50.040 because of their association with the trash. 00:01:51.080 --> 00:01:53.936 So my initial idea was to create an anamorphic piece, 00:01:53.960 --> 00:01:56.816 a piece that you can only see from one vantage point. 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:01.176 I wanted to challenge myself artistically by painting over several buildings 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:06.336 and having it only fully visible from one point on the Muqattam Mountain. 00:02:06.360 --> 00:02:08.936 The Muqattam Mountain is the pride of the community. 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:11.416 This is where they built the St. Simon Monastery, 00:02:11.440 --> 00:02:16.560 a 10,000-seat cave church that they carved into the mountain itself. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:17.200 --> 00:02:21.256 So, the first time I stood on top of the mountain 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:22.896 and I looked at the neighborhood, 00:02:22.920 --> 00:02:25.816 I asked myself, how on earth will I convince all those owners 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:28.016 to let me paint on their buildings? 00:02:28.040 --> 00:02:29.416 And then Magd came. 00:02:29.440 --> 00:02:31.816 Magd is a guide from the Church. 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:35.936 He told me the only person I needed to convince was Father Samaan, 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.416 who is the leader of the community. 00:02:38.440 --> 00:02:41.656 But to convince Father Samaan, I needed to convince Mario, 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.736 who is a Polish artist who moved to Cairo 20 years ago 00:02:44.760 --> 00:02:48.576 and who created all the artwork of the Cave Church. 00:02:48.600 --> 00:02:51.520 I am really grateful to Mario. He was the key of the project. 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.656 He managed to get me a meeting with Father Samaan, 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:56.416 and surprisingly, he loved the idea. 00:02:56.440 --> 00:02:58.696 He asked me about where I painted before 00:02:58.720 --> 00:03:00.176 and how I will make it happen. 00:03:00.200 --> 00:03:03.400 And he was mainly concerned by what I was going to write. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:04.760 --> 00:03:06.896 In every work that I create, I write messages 00:03:06.920 --> 00:03:08.696 with my style of Arabic calligraphy. 00:03:08.720 --> 00:03:12.456 I make sure those messages are relevant to the place where I am painting 00:03:12.480 --> 00:03:14.100 but have this universal dimension, 00:03:14.124 --> 00:03:16.924 so anybody around the world can relate to it. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:18.816 So for Manshiyat Naser, 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:23.616 I decided to write in Arabic the words of St. Athanasius of Alexandria, 00:03:23.640 --> 00:03:25.576 a Coptic bishop from the third century, 00:03:25.600 --> 00:03:30.176 who said: (Arabic), 00:03:30.200 --> 00:03:31.456 which means in English, 00:03:31.480 --> 00:03:33.616 "Anyone who wants to see the sunlight clearly 00:03:33.640 --> 00:03:35.120 needs to wipe his eyes first." NOTE Paragraph 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:37.576 It was really important for me 00:03:37.600 --> 00:03:40.496 that the community felt connected to the words. 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:43.960 And for me this quote was perfectly reflecting the spirit of the project. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:44.480 --> 00:03:46.896 So Father Samaan blessed the project, 00:03:46.920 --> 00:03:49.880 and his approval brought all the residents on board. 00:03:50.640 --> 00:03:54.936 Hundreds of liters of paint, a dozen blue manual lifts, 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:57.096 several trips back and forth to Cairo, 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:01.256 a strong and solid team from France, North Africa, Middle East and the US, 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:04.736 and after a year of planning and logistics, there we are, 00:04:04.760 --> 00:04:07.376 my team and some members from the local community 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:10.896 creating a piece that will spread over 50 buildings, 00:04:10.920 --> 00:04:13.816 some filling up the space of the calligraphy 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:15.256 that I trace with colors. 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:18.336 Here some blue, there some yellow, there some orange. 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:20.495 Some others carrying some sand bags 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.616 and putting them on the top of the buildings 00:04:22.640 --> 00:04:23.976 to hold those manual lifts, 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.896 and some others assembling and disassembling those same lifts 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:29.120 and moving them around the different buildings. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:30.200 --> 00:04:31.896 At the beginning of the project, 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:35.576 I numbered all those buildings on my sketch, 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:38.096 and there was no real interaction with the community. 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:40.256 People didn’t get the point of all this. 00:04:40.280 --> 00:04:44.776 But fast enough, those building numbers became family names. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.400 The first building was the house of Uncle Ibrahim. 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:50.176 Uncle Ibrahim is such an enthusiastic person. 00:04:50.200 --> 00:04:52.256 He was always singing and making jokes, 00:04:52.280 --> 00:04:56.616 and his daughters and sons saved me from his bull 00:04:56.640 --> 00:04:59.096 who wanted to attack me on the fourth floor. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:00.416 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:05:00.440 --> 00:05:03.736 Actually, the bull saw me from the window and came out on the balcony. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:03.760 --> 00:05:05.096 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:06.320 Yeah. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.336 Uncle Ibrahim was always hanging out on the balcony 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:14.336 and talking to me while I was painting. 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:18.336 I remember him saying that he didn’t go to the mountain for 10 years, 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:20.176 and that he never takes a day off. 00:05:20.200 --> 00:05:23.976 He said that if he stopped working, who will stop the garbage? 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:27.416 But surprisingly, at the end of the project, 00:05:27.440 --> 00:05:30.256 he came all the way to the mountain to look at the piece. 00:05:30.280 --> 00:05:33.056 He was really proud to see his house painted, 00:05:33.080 --> 00:05:36.840 and he said that this project was a project of peace and -- 00:05:38.400 --> 00:05:39.600 sorry -- NOTE Paragraph 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:43.560 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:05:54.400 --> 00:05:55.600 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:56.320 --> 00:06:01.296 He said that it was a project of peace and unity 00:06:01.320 --> 00:06:03.040 and that it brought people together. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:06.896 So his perception towards the project changed, 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:10.816 and my perception towards the community changed also, 00:06:10.840 --> 00:06:12.776 and towards what they do. 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:17.416 All the garbage that everybody is disgusted by is not theirs. 00:06:17.440 --> 00:06:18.936 They just work out of it. 00:06:18.960 --> 00:06:22.216 Actually, they don’t live in the garbage. They live from the garbage. 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:24.456 So I started doubting myself and wondering 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:28.256 what was the real purpose of this whole project? 00:06:28.280 --> 00:06:32.376 It was not about beautifying a place by bringing art to it. 00:06:32.400 --> 00:06:35.456 It was about switching perception and opening a dialogue 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:38.640 on the connection that we have with communities that we don’t know. 00:06:39.520 --> 00:06:40.776 So day after day, 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.176 the calligraphy circle was taking shape, 00:06:43.200 --> 00:06:47.256 and we were always excited to go back on the mountain to look at the piece. 00:06:47.280 --> 00:06:50.416 And standing exactly at this point every day made my realize 00:06:50.440 --> 00:06:53.256 the symbolism behind this anamorphic piece. 00:06:53.280 --> 00:06:55.456 If you want to see the real image of somebody, 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:57.440 maybe you should change your angle. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:58.440 --> 00:07:00.256 There was doubts and difficulties, 00:07:00.280 --> 00:07:01.536 like fears and stress. 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:03.736 It wasn't simple to work in such environments, 00:07:03.760 --> 00:07:05.976 sometimes having pigs under you while you paint 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:08.816 or climbing a stack of garbage to reach a lift. 00:07:08.840 --> 00:07:12.176 But we all got over the fear of the heights, the swinging lifts, 00:07:12.200 --> 00:07:13.456 the strength of the smell 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.616 and also the stress of not finishing on time. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:15.640 --> 00:07:18.880 But the kindness of all those people made us forget everything. 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:23.776 The building number 3 was the house of Uncle Bakheet and Aunty Fareeda. 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:27.056 In Egyptian, they have this expression that says, "Ahsen Nas," 00:07:27.080 --> 00:07:28.616 which means "the best people." 00:07:28.640 --> 00:07:29.896 They were the best people. 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:33.056 We used to take our break in front of their houses, 00:07:33.080 --> 00:07:35.456 and all the kids of the neighborhood 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:36.816 used to join us. 00:07:36.840 --> 00:07:41.176 I was impressed and amazed by the kids of Manshiyat Naser. 00:07:41.200 --> 00:07:45.336 For the first few days, they were always refusing anything we were offering them, 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.416 even a snack or a drink. 00:07:47.440 --> 00:07:49.376 So I asked Aunty Fareeda, "Why is that?" 00:07:49.400 --> 00:07:53.256 And she told me they teach their kids to refuse anything 00:07:53.280 --> 00:07:54.936 from somebody that they don't know 00:07:54.960 --> 00:07:57.520 because maybe this person needs it more than they do. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:58.880 --> 00:08:02.896 So at this exact point I realized actually 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:05.056 the Zaraeeb community was the ideal context 00:08:05.080 --> 00:08:06.680 to raise the topic of perception. 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:10.536 We need to question our level of misconception 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:13.216 and judgment we can have as a society 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.680 upon communities based on their differences. 00:08:16.960 --> 00:08:20.416 I remember how we got delayed on Uncle Ibrahim's house 00:08:20.440 --> 00:08:22.576 when his pigs that are bred on the rooftop 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:25.176 were eating the sand bags that hold the lifts. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:25.200 --> 00:08:26.760 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:08:27.640 --> 00:08:30.576 The house of Uncle Bakheet and Aunty Fareeda 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:32.256 was this kind of meeting point. 00:08:32.280 --> 00:08:34.135 Everybody used to gather there. 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:36.096 I think this is what Uncle Ibrahim meant 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.736 when he said that was a project of peace and unity, 00:08:38.760 --> 00:08:41.559 because I really felt that people were coming together. 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:45.496 Everyone was greeting us with a smile, offering us a drink 00:08:45.520 --> 00:08:49.536 or inviting us into their own house for lunch. 00:08:49.560 --> 00:08:52.576 Sometime, you are at the first level of a building, 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.136 and somebody opens his window and offers you some tea. 00:08:55.160 --> 00:08:57.616 And then the same thing happens on the second floor. 00:08:57.640 --> 00:08:59.656 And you keep going all the way to the top. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:59.680 --> 00:09:00.896 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:09:00.920 --> 00:09:02.376 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:09:02.400 --> 00:09:04.856 I think I never drink as much tea as I did in Egypt. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:04.880 --> 00:09:06.696 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.456 And to be honest with you, we could have finished earlier, 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.656 but I think it took us three weeks because of all those tea breaks. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:12.680 --> 00:09:14.480 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:09:16.520 --> 00:09:20.056 In Egypt, they have another expression, which is "Nawartouna," 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:22.200 which means, "You brought light to us." 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.096 In Manshiyat Naser they were always telling us this. 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:28.256 The calligraphy, actually -- 00:09:28.280 --> 00:09:32.336 I used a white glow-in-the-dark paint for the calligraphy 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:36.536 so at the end of the project, we rented some black light projectors 00:09:36.560 --> 00:09:38.936 and lit up the whole neighborhood, 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:40.336 surprising everybody around. 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:41.616 We wanted to tell them 00:09:41.640 --> 00:09:43.840 that they are the ones who brought light to us. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:46.280 --> 00:09:48.560 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:01.056 The Zaraeeb community are strong, honest, hard workers, 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:02.816 and they know their value. 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:04.976 The people of Cairo call them "the Zabaleen," 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:06.976 which means "the people of the garbage," 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.736 but ironically, the people of Manshiyat Naser 00:10:09.760 --> 00:10:11.616 call the people of Cairo the Zabaleen. 00:10:11.640 --> 00:10:14.576 They say, they are the ones who produce the garbage, not them. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:15.816 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:17.216 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:19.616 The goal was to leave something to this community, 00:10:19.640 --> 00:10:22.776 but I feel that they are the ones who left something in our lives. 00:10:22.800 --> 00:10:24.896 You know, the art project was just a pretext 00:10:24.920 --> 00:10:26.576 for this amazing human experience. 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:29.016 The art piece at some point will disappear, vanish, 00:10:29.040 --> 00:10:31.936 and actually there is somebody who is building a second floor 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:33.616 in front of Uncle Ibrahim's house, 00:10:33.640 --> 00:10:35.496 so it's covering part of the painting, 00:10:35.520 --> 00:10:37.656 so I might need to go back and paint over it. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:37.680 --> 00:10:39.296 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:40.696 It was about the experience, 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:42.136 about the story, 00:10:42.160 --> 00:10:43.440 about the moment. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:44.560 --> 00:10:46.456 From the streets of the neighborhood, 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.100 the painting appears in fragments, 00:10:48.124 --> 00:10:50.016 isolated from one another, 00:10:50.040 --> 00:10:51.296 standing alone. 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:53.496 But connected with the sign of calligraphy 00:10:53.520 --> 00:10:57.376 that today reveals the powerful message that we should all think about 00:10:57.400 --> 00:10:59.080 before we want to judge somebody. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:59.640 --> 00:11:01.776 Anyone who wants to see the sunlight clearly 00:11:01.800 --> 00:11:03.240 needs to wipe his eyes first. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:03.760 --> 00:11:05.176 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:12.961 (Applause)