1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Greetings! Dr. Mark Winton here and this 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is one of the videos that I''l be making 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for our class on serial murder and 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the criminal justice system. 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What I'd like to do is introduce you 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to the textbook and some of the areas 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that we'll be covering. 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We have an excellent textbook. It's a 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 great resource that you could use 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 throughout your career: 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Serial Murderers and their Victims, 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 6th Edition, written by Professor 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Eric W. Hickey. 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And Dr. Hickey does a superb job of 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 comprehensively addressing serial murder. 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So I think you'll find a variety of 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 areas of interest as we progress 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 through the semester. 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In Chapter 1, Introduction to Phenomena 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of Serial Murder, we begin to explore 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 some of the myths related to serial 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murder and how those have been created 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 by society and the media and the general 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 public. And then we move on to looking 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 at basically the definitions of the 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 different types of criminal activities 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 related to serial murder and murder in 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 general, and then we take a look at the difference 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 between mass murder and serial murder. 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We try to get some estimates of how 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 much serial murder and mass murder 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 occur in the United States. And then 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we look at some of the cases. You'll find 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a wealth of cases for comparative 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 analysis within your textbook. 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There are a lot of different areas that 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you can also bridge this material in 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 your work, whether you work in cases 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of serial murder or not or you work in 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 some type of investigatory capacity 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or in the legal system or if you have 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 an interest or if you want to find out 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 really the information and compare and 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 contrast the research findings to what 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you see in the media and what you hear 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about in general public to see what's 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 accurate and what's inaccurate. 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So there's a variety of reasons why 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 people have taken this course -- some for 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 their interest, others for their interest 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and their professional development, and 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 others to learn about a topic that they 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 like to explore in their future work, and 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 some who may be investigating a variety 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of crimes, violent crimes, and will 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 find this information useful in their 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 own work. Of course, if you're conducting 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 research, there will be a lot of 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 useful information as well. 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So basically murder is the illegal 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 taking of another's life. And a lot of times 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you will see that when we talk abut 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murder, the big features that come into 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 play is intent. So someone who comes up to s 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 someone and gets in an argument and 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 stabs them with a knife and had planned 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to do this because they had some type 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of disagreement is very different from 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 someone who's walking down the street and 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they accidentally bump into someone who 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 falls, bumps their head and dies. So we have 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a lot of different situations, and I'm 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 sure that you can see how in the press 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and in the courtroom these definitions 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are often debated. 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And so you can see the different types of 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murder: premeditated murder, for example, 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 justifiable homicide, manslaughter, 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 involuntary manslaughter, and then you 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 can see the different other types of 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 homicide related basically to age and 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 relationship, for example, the killing of 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 newborns or infants or siblings or 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 parents and then you can see that we 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 move into a variety of other definitions 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 related to mass murder and serial murder 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and your author provides some cases. 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Holmes comes up with a classification 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of mass murder, and that's kind of an 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 interesting feature to look at because then 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you start to look at the whole idea of 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 classification and how we actually do that. 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And so that would be relevant to look at. 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But let me back up a moment and let me 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 define mass murder according to the FBI. 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And mass murder is the killing of 4 or 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 more persons at one time. And so there 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we have a definition of mass murder. What 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you will see here when we start 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 differentiating different types of 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murders that the number and whether or not 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there's a cooling off period becomes 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 very relevant. So mass murder is 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 basically killing 4 or more persons 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 at one time. There's been a bunch of 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 examples of mass murder, and one that 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is being discussed in the press right now 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is Dr. Hassan, the psychiatrist at Fort 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Hood, who in 2009 shot over 40 military 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 personnel, killing 13. That would be 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from at least, your textbook classifies 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that as a mass murder. 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Dr. Amy Bishop, in 2010 in the state 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of Alabama, shot 6 faculty members, killing 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 3 at her university. So that is a profile 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of mass murder in your textbook, but then you 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 say, "Okay, killing 4 or more persons is the 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 FBI definition" and so you know, we have 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to see that there are some 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 inconsistencies. So we will stick to some 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the general themes, but you'll see that 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 different researchers and organizations may 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 have different definitions. And Holmes, 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for example, starts looking at mass 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murder classifications and comes up with, 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for example, the family slayer or 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 annihilator and the murder for profit, 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murder for sex, the pseudo commando, and the 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 set and run killer. So here again, you look 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 at these types of classifications and 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you see that not only does it relate to 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 how many people are killed in the time 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 period, but also the major motive, 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the motivating factor for the killing. 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Additionally, for example, the psychotic 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 killer, the disgruntled employee, the 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 disciple-type killer, the ideological 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 mass murderer who may be involved in some 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 type of cult, and institutional mass 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murderers. And in my own research, one of my 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 specialty areas is genocide, and a lot 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of my studies focus on mass murder conducted 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 by those engaging in genocidal regimes. And 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'll discuss more of that and my research 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 as we progress in the semester. But that 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 would be kind of an institutional mass murder 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 type. 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What's interesting about the mass murderers 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is that they usually don't seem to have 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a great concern about being captured 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or being killed and some may be killed by 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 police and others kill themselves, commit 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 suicide once they complete their massacre. 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And some simply just wait for the police and 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then are arrested. And we'll see that 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that dramatically differs from serial 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 killers. 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And in some cases of mass murder, mass 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 killings, the offender may commit murders in 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 one location and then move to another 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 location, another building or another 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 address and that is bifurcation and so we 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 see that split into two places. But there's 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 NOT a cooling off period. There will be one 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 cooling off period in the case of serial 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murder, but not in cases of mass murder. 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And, um, we have many case studies in our 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 textbook. One thing that we find is that 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 mass murderers are usually caught by the 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 police or as I mentioned before killed by 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the police or commit suicide. And we've seen 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of course, the media attention to the mass 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murders. Mass murderer is, again, either 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 going to get caught or die, while serial 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 killers focus their attention on preventing 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 being caught or captured and may commit 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murders for years and years and years 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and years. Um, a spree murder, as your author 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 points out, we get into that problem of 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 defining the cooling off period that 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 occurs between killings, that mass 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murderers usually within, let's say, minutes 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or hours; the serial killer, the 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 differentiation of time would be days, 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 weeks, months, or years. And then, we get 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 into that area where we're not very clear and 187 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 then we might see some difficulty there 188 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 agreeing. 189 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Serial murder, in contrast, is defined 190 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 by the FBI as the unlawful killing of two 191 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or more victims by the same offenders in 192 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 separate events. Okay, so we will of course 193 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 say, "Well, what do you mean by separate 194 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 events?" There's a cooling off period. 195 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So you might say, "Well, what about 196 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 someone who, you know, kills 2 people in a 197 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 home and then goes home and waits for a day 198 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because there's a snowstorm before going 199 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to another home down the street and 200 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 continuing the killing?" Is that mass 201 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murder? Is that, you know, serial killing, 202 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 serial murder, or something else? And so 203 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there is some issue with the definitions. 204 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Of course on exams, I'll keep it very 205 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 straightforward. 206 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So the FBI definition of serial murder is 207 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the unlawful killing of 2 or more victims 208 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 by the same offenders in separate events. 209 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now, we get into some of the myths of serial 210 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murder. 211 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 One is that serial murderers are almost 212 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 all the time white. That's actually 213 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 not the case. 214 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That serial murderers are men, even though 215 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the majority may be male, there are 216 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 female serial killers. It's a myth that 217 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 serial murderers are insane. Some may be, 218 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but many are not. Many are not judged to be 219 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 legally insane. And again, insanity is 220 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 not really a mental health term; it's a 221 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 legal term. For practical purposes, we say 222 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that the person is out of touch with reality 223 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and cannot tell the difference between 224 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 right or wrong, and then the cases we will 225 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they knew what they were doing was illegal, 226 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they knew what they were doing would 227 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 be considered wrong by society. Some argue 228 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that serial murderers tend to be very 229 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 highly intelligent. Some are. Some are of 230 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 average or low intelligence. Some argue ta 231 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there's a sexual motive for all serial 232 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murders. That's not necessarily the case. 233 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Some believe that serial murderers tend 234 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to kill alone. Some do but some choose to 235 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 kill in pairs or small groups. Some say 236 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they cannot stop the killing, but we see 237 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that actually many serial murderers may 238 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 stop killing for long periods of time, and 239 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we'll see some case studies where that is 240 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the case. Some believe they have some type 241 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of a conscious desire to be caught. That 242 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is not the case because many are not 243 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 caught for many, many years or are never 244 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 caught. 245 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And so, for example, one study found 17% 246 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of serial murderers were female. The majority 247 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of them are male, but 17% is a relatively 248 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 large number if you were going to say "most" 249 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or "all" are men, that's not true. And so, 250 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the statistics also show that a very small 251 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 percentage are legally insane. They say 252 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 under 5%, and so that's important to 253 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 recognize. Some believe that serial killers 254 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 kill hundreds, but we see that most kill 255 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 under 10 victims. And many of the serial 256 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murders occur in a particular geographical 257 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 location, and as I mentioned, there may be 258 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 several years between the murders and 259 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we see a variety of factors that are open 260 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you know, for debate. But we also find some 261 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 clear patterns that begin to emerge. So 262 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the major motivating factors that are 263 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 described in your textbook for serial murder 264 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 relate to anger, criminal enterprise, 265 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 financial gain, ideological belief systems, 266 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 power/thrill, sexual motive, or a motive 267 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 based on some type of psychosis. And through 268 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this course we can look at the different 269 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 types as we progress through the semester 270 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and into more detail. 271 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The FBI has this organized/disorganized 272 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 dichotomy, to look at the organized serial 273 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 killer and the disorganized serial killer, 274 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and there's a lot of debate about that 275 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because many seem to fall somewhere in 276 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 between, where there's some organization 277 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 aspects to the killing and some very 278 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 disorganized. And sometimes you see a serial 279 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murder where it's very disorganized, other 280 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 times very organized, the person, that is, 281 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and other times you see somewhere in between. 282 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, um, there may be difficulty in using 283 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this typology unless you're looking at just 284 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the extremes. 285 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Holmes again develops typologies of serial 286 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 murder, such as the visionary, the mission- 287 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 oriented, the hedonistic, and the 288 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 power/control oriented. So a variety are 289 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 very useful information there. 290 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And so I think Chapter 1 starts to give you 291 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this general overview of the extent, and we 292 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 can see that, again, we're really not 293 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 sure -- these estimates vary widely -- how 294 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 much serial murders actually occur, how 295 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 many are actually caught because again we 296 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 run into these definitional problems, these 297 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 linkage problems, that there may be some 298 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 serial killers who over a period of time 299 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 lapses or are never linked or they may kill 300 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in different areas, and that may be an 301 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 issue. And of course, the media aspects of 302 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 mass murder, serial murder, are clearly 303 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there, especially with the 24/7 news that 304 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we see what has happened recently with 305 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 serial killers or mass murderers that are 306 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 portrayed in the media. I can tell you my 307 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 own perception, when I first became aware of 308 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 serial killing that was back in the 60s 309 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when I was a youngster in California. And 310 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the Zodiac was killing people in the Bay Area 311 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I got a little better information about 312 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that -- not that much because I was 313 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 relatively young, but I knew something bad 314 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 was happening. I knew someone was going 315 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 around killing people and from what I could 316 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 gather from the press, I don't remember 317 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 seeing much of that on television when I 318 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 watched television, probably because the 319 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 news was on once a day and probably tried 320 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to avoid watching that back when I was 321 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 young and there wasn't much discussion. My 322 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 friends would just say to stay in groups 323 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 don't go out at night. We tended to know 324 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 our neighbors. But that fear is always 325 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there. What I do remember is that at some 326 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 point, a knife with blood on it and clothes 327 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 were found in the wooded area near where 328 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we lived and that was the last time I was 329 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 able to go out there in the woods by my 330 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 self or with friends. And no one knows, 331 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or I don't know, certainly, what became 332 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of that knife with blood on it and clothes 333 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so on because no one ever explained, 334 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but shortly thereafter we moved to a very 335 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 safe state where there was no crime, Florida, 336 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and everything was fine. But I can r 337 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 remember over the years though, even seeing 338 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 cases, I'd work with agencies over the 339 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 years in my capacity as a sociologist 340 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and a counselor. I've never been in law 341 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 enforcement before, and I've never 342 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 investigated cases of serial murder or 343 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 anything like that from a police 344 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 perspective, but I've worked with 345 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 agencies that assisted in a variety of 346 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 investigations. And so I kind of have some 347 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 background in information from there, and I 348 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 can say that over the years things have 349 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 changed dramatically. When I first started 350 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 working in the field, we did not even have 351 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 computers at that time. We had tape 352 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 recorders to do dictating of our notes, and 353 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we had typewriters, and if we made mistakes 354 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we had to start over. We had to use some 355 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 chemical called White Out, which led to a 356 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 lot of controversy because apparently 357 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 people would sniff it, and then they'd 358 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 make more mistakes with their typing and 359 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they had to take that chemical out. And so 360 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there's lots of changes, basically. And I 361 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 want you to think about those changes 362 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that have occurred over the years when you 363 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are reading these cases, think about the 364 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 cultural climate, the historical time 365 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 period, what was going on, the politics, 366 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the community, the investigatory abilities, 367 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then think about even in the future, how 368 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we'll see investigations proceed. 369 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So welcome to the course, and I hope you're 370 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 able to learn a lot about different types 371 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of serial murder and different types of 372 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 violent crimes during this course that will