1 00:00:00,903 --> 00:00:07,804 (Clicking) 2 00:00:07,804 --> 00:00:12,420 I was born with bilateral retinoblastoma, 3 00:00:12,420 --> 00:00:14,353 retinal cancer. 4 00:00:15,313 --> 00:00:18,419 My right eye was removed 5 00:00:18,419 --> 00:00:21,336 at seven months of age. 6 00:00:21,336 --> 00:00:25,053 I was 13 months when they removed my left eye. 7 00:00:26,003 --> 00:00:31,148 The first thing I did upon awakening from that last surgery 8 00:00:31,148 --> 00:00:34,780 was to climb out of my crib 9 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:38,889 and begin wandering around the intensive care nursery, 10 00:00:39,829 --> 00:00:43,208 probably looking for the one who did this to me. 11 00:00:43,208 --> 00:00:45,066 (Laughter) 12 00:00:46,966 --> 00:00:50,127 Evidently, wandering around the nursery 13 00:00:50,127 --> 00:00:53,702 was not a problem for me without eyes. 14 00:00:53,702 --> 00:00:56,337 The problem was getting caught. 15 00:00:57,557 --> 00:01:00,731 It's impressions about blindness 16 00:01:00,731 --> 00:01:04,221 that are far more threatening 17 00:01:04,221 --> 00:01:07,753 to blind people than the blindness itself. 18 00:01:09,283 --> 00:01:13,230 Think for a moment about your own impressions of blindness. 19 00:01:13,230 --> 00:01:17,296 Think about your reactions when I first came onto the stage, 20 00:01:17,296 --> 00:01:21,347 or the prospect of your own blindness, 21 00:01:21,347 --> 00:01:25,264 or a loved one going blind. 22 00:01:25,264 --> 00:01:30,704 The terror is incomprehensible to most of us, 23 00:01:30,704 --> 00:01:33,159 because blindness 24 00:01:33,159 --> 00:01:38,829 is thought to epitomize ignorance and unawareness, 25 00:01:38,829 --> 00:01:46,630 hapless exposure to the ravages of the dark unknown. 26 00:01:46,630 --> 00:01:48,460 How poetic. 27 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,801 Fortunately for me, my parents were not poetic. 28 00:01:52,801 --> 00:01:54,676 They were pragmatic. 29 00:01:54,676 --> 00:02:01,293 They understood that ignorance and fear were but matters of the mind, 30 00:02:01,293 --> 00:02:05,282 and the mind is adaptable. 31 00:02:05,282 --> 00:02:08,983 They believed that I should grow up 32 00:02:08,983 --> 00:02:13,814 to enjoy the same freedoms and responsibilities as everyone else. 33 00:02:13,814 --> 00:02:16,275 In their own words, I would move out -- 34 00:02:16,275 --> 00:02:19,062 which I did when I was 18 -- 35 00:02:19,062 --> 00:02:21,035 I will pay taxes -- 36 00:02:21,035 --> 00:02:23,875 thanks -- (Laughter) -- 37 00:02:25,605 --> 00:02:30,786 and they knew the difference between love and fear. 38 00:02:30,786 --> 00:02:35,710 Fear immobilizes us in the face of challenge. 39 00:02:35,710 --> 00:02:38,612 They knew that blindness would pose a significant challenge. 40 00:02:38,612 --> 00:02:41,666 I was not raised with fear. 41 00:02:41,666 --> 00:02:45,415 They put my freedom first before all else, 42 00:02:45,415 --> 00:02:48,535 because that is what love does. 43 00:02:48,535 --> 00:02:52,764 Now, moving forward, how do I manage today? 44 00:02:54,044 --> 00:02:57,419 The world is a much larger nursery. 45 00:02:57,419 --> 00:03:01,320 Fortunately, I have my trusty long cane, 46 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,014 longer than the canes used by most blind people. 47 00:03:04,014 --> 00:03:07,357 I call it my freedom staff. 48 00:03:07,357 --> 00:03:08,913 It will keep me, for example, 49 00:03:08,913 --> 00:03:14,529 from making an undignified departure from the stage. (Laughter) 50 00:03:15,279 --> 00:03:17,242 I do see that cliff edge. 51 00:03:18,282 --> 00:03:21,509 They warned us earlier that every imaginable mishap 52 00:03:21,509 --> 00:03:25,100 has occurred to speakers up here on the stage. 53 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:27,121 I don't care to set a new precedent. 54 00:03:28,491 --> 00:03:30,425 But beyond that, 55 00:03:30,425 --> 00:03:33,552 many of you may have heard me clicking as I came onto the stage -- 56 00:03:33,552 --> 00:03:34,619 (Clicking) -- 57 00:03:34,619 --> 00:03:36,488 with my tongue. 58 00:03:36,488 --> 00:03:39,666 Those are flashes of sound 59 00:03:39,666 --> 00:03:44,746 that go out and reflect from surfaces all around me, 60 00:03:44,746 --> 00:03:46,118 just like a bat's sonar, 61 00:03:46,118 --> 00:03:51,738 and return to me with patterns, with pieces of information, 62 00:03:51,738 --> 00:03:54,225 much as light does for you. 63 00:03:55,135 --> 00:03:58,793 And my brain, thanks to my parents, 64 00:03:58,793 --> 00:04:04,098 has been activated to form images in my visual cortex, 65 00:04:04,098 --> 00:04:07,338 which we now call the imaging system, 66 00:04:07,338 --> 00:04:11,288 from those patterns of information, much as your brain does. 67 00:04:11,288 --> 00:04:13,854 I call this process flash sonar. 68 00:04:14,604 --> 00:04:20,322 It is how I have learned to see through my blindness, 69 00:04:20,322 --> 00:04:23,498 to navigate my journey 70 00:04:23,498 --> 00:04:27,538 through the dark unknowns of my own challenges, 71 00:04:27,538 --> 00:04:31,439 which has earned me the moniker 72 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:35,154 "the remarkable Batman." 73 00:04:35,154 --> 00:04:37,708 Now, Batman I will accept. 74 00:04:37,708 --> 00:04:41,098 Bats are cool. Batman is cool. 75 00:04:41,098 --> 00:04:46,766 But I was not raised to think of myself as in any way remarkable. 76 00:04:47,856 --> 00:04:51,884 I have always regarded myself much like anyone else 77 00:04:51,884 --> 00:04:57,300 who navigates the dark unknowns of their own challenges. 78 00:04:57,300 --> 00:05:00,718 Is that so remarkable? 79 00:05:00,718 --> 00:05:04,014 I do not use my eyes, I use my brain. 80 00:05:04,834 --> 00:05:07,317 Now, someone, somewhere, 81 00:05:07,317 --> 00:05:11,144 must think that's remarkable, or I wouldn't be up here, 82 00:05:11,144 --> 00:05:14,183 but let's consider this for a moment. 83 00:05:15,013 --> 00:05:17,739 Everyone out there 84 00:05:17,739 --> 00:05:22,428 who faces or who has ever faced a challenge, 85 00:05:22,428 --> 00:05:24,160 raise your hands. 86 00:05:25,470 --> 00:05:27,490 Whoosh. Okay. 87 00:05:27,490 --> 00:05:30,462 Lots of hands going up, a moment, let me do a head count. 88 00:05:30,462 --> 00:05:32,503 (Clicking) 89 00:05:33,713 --> 00:05:36,731 This will take a while. (Clicking) (Laughter) 90 00:05:36,731 --> 00:05:38,205 Okay, lots of hands in the air. 91 00:05:38,205 --> 00:05:40,609 Keep them up. I have an idea. 92 00:05:40,609 --> 00:05:46,302 Those of you who use your brains to navigate these challenges, 93 00:05:46,302 --> 00:05:49,243 put your hands down. 94 00:05:50,423 --> 00:05:53,024 Okay, anyone with your hands still up 95 00:05:53,024 --> 00:05:58,262 has challenges of your own. (Laughter) 96 00:05:58,262 --> 00:06:00,839 So we all face challenges, 97 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,577 and we all face the dark unknown, 98 00:06:04,577 --> 00:06:08,920 which is endemic to most challenges, which is what most of us fear, okay? 99 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,773 But we all have brains 100 00:06:12,773 --> 00:06:17,069 that allow us, that activate to allow us 101 00:06:17,069 --> 00:06:23,456 to navigate the journey through these challenges. Okay? 102 00:06:24,151 --> 00:06:28,284 Case in point: I came up here 103 00:06:28,284 --> 00:06:35,254 and -- (Clicking) -- they wouldn't tell me 104 00:06:35,254 --> 00:06:38,152 where the lectern was. 105 00:06:38,152 --> 00:06:41,066 So you can't trust those TED folks. 106 00:06:42,796 --> 00:06:44,653 "Find it yourself," they said. 107 00:06:44,653 --> 00:06:48,063 So -- (Laughter) 108 00:06:49,413 --> 00:06:52,525 And the feedback for the P.A. system is no help at all. 109 00:06:52,525 --> 00:06:55,934 So now I present to you a challenge. 110 00:06:55,934 --> 00:06:59,850 So if you'd all close your eyes for just a moment, okay? 111 00:06:59,850 --> 00:07:03,507 And you're going to learn a bit of flash sonar. 112 00:07:03,507 --> 00:07:05,017 I'm going to make a sound. 113 00:07:05,017 --> 00:07:08,562 I'm going to hold this panel in front of me, but I'm not going to move it. 114 00:07:08,562 --> 00:07:11,486 Just listen to the sound for a moment. 115 00:07:13,236 --> 00:07:19,228 Shhhhhhhhhh. 116 00:07:19,228 --> 00:07:21,293 Okay, nothing very interesting. 117 00:07:21,293 --> 00:07:24,032 Now, listen to what happens to that same exact sound 118 00:07:24,032 --> 00:07:25,816 when I move the panel. 119 00:07:27,146 --> 00:07:33,111 Shhhhhhhhhhh. (Pitch getting higher and lower) 120 00:07:38,266 --> 00:07:41,609 You do not know the power of the dark side. 121 00:07:41,609 --> 00:07:43,421 (Laughter) 122 00:07:43,421 --> 00:07:45,812 I couldn't resist. 123 00:07:47,832 --> 00:07:50,479 Okay, now keep your eyes closed 124 00:07:50,479 --> 00:07:52,327 because, did you hear the difference? 125 00:07:52,327 --> 00:07:55,425 Okay. Now, let's be sure. 126 00:07:55,425 --> 00:07:57,224 For your challenge, 127 00:07:57,224 --> 00:08:02,308 you tell me, just say "now" when you hear the panel start to move. 128 00:08:02,308 --> 00:08:05,300 Okay? We'll relax into this. 129 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,823 Shhhhhhh. 130 00:08:11,823 --> 00:08:13,888 Audience: Now. Daniel Kish: Good. Excellent. 131 00:08:13,888 --> 00:08:15,381 Open your eyes. 132 00:08:15,381 --> 00:08:19,915 All right. So just a few centimeters, 133 00:08:19,915 --> 00:08:22,045 you would notice the difference. 134 00:08:22,045 --> 00:08:24,488 You've experienced sonar. 135 00:08:25,528 --> 00:08:28,547 You'd all make great blind people. (Laughter) 136 00:08:28,547 --> 00:08:31,240 Let's have a look at what can happen 137 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,584 when this activation process 138 00:08:34,584 --> 00:08:39,111 is given some time and attention. 139 00:08:39,111 --> 00:08:42,292 (Video) Juan Ruiz: It's like you guys can see with your eyes 140 00:08:42,292 --> 00:08:45,497 and we can see with our ears. 141 00:08:45,497 --> 00:08:48,561 Brian Bushway: It's not a matter of enjoying it more or less, 142 00:08:48,561 --> 00:08:51,487 it's about enjoying it differently. 143 00:08:51,487 --> 00:08:54,529 Shawn Marsolais: It goes across. DK: Yeah. 144 00:08:54,529 --> 00:08:58,337 SM: And then it's gradually coming back down again. 145 00:08:58,337 --> 00:08:59,950 DK: Yes! SM: That's amazing. 146 00:08:59,950 --> 00:09:04,246 I can, like, see the car. Holy mother! 147 00:09:09,981 --> 00:09:12,048 J. Louchart: I love being blind. 148 00:09:12,048 --> 00:09:15,716 If I had the opportunity, honestly, I wouldn't go back to being sighted. 149 00:09:15,716 --> 00:09:19,176 JR: The bigger the goal, the more obstacles you'll face, 150 00:09:19,176 --> 00:09:21,777 and on the other side of that goal 151 00:09:21,777 --> 00:09:23,425 is victory. 152 00:09:23,425 --> 00:09:28,580 [In Italian] 153 00:09:28,580 --> 00:09:38,355 (Applause) 154 00:09:38,355 --> 00:09:42,245 DK: Now, do these people look terrified? 155 00:09:42,245 --> 00:09:44,067 Not so much. 156 00:09:44,067 --> 00:09:46,853 We have delivered activation training 157 00:09:46,853 --> 00:09:50,382 to tens of thousands of blind and sighted people from all backgrounds 158 00:09:50,382 --> 00:09:52,820 in nearly 40 countries. 159 00:09:52,820 --> 00:09:57,302 When blind people learn to see, 160 00:09:57,302 --> 00:10:00,320 sighted people seem inspired 161 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,377 to want to learn to see their way better, more clearly, with less fear, 162 00:10:06,627 --> 00:10:12,533 because this exemplifies the immense capacity within us all 163 00:10:12,533 --> 00:10:19,046 to navigate any type of challenge, through any form of darkness, 164 00:10:19,046 --> 00:10:22,332 to discoveries unimagined 165 00:10:22,332 --> 00:10:27,695 when we are activated. 166 00:10:27,695 --> 00:10:33,709 I wish you all a most activating journey. 167 00:10:33,709 --> 00:10:35,474 Thank you very much. 168 00:10:35,474 --> 00:10:42,695 (Applause) 169 00:10:43,716 --> 00:10:46,162 Chris Anderson: Daniel, my friend. 170 00:10:46,162 --> 00:10:51,297 As I know you can see, it's a spectacular standing ovation at TED. 171 00:10:51,297 --> 00:10:54,281 Thank you for an extraordinary talk. 172 00:10:54,281 --> 00:10:59,530 Just one more question about your world, your inner world that you construct. 173 00:10:59,530 --> 00:11:05,095 We think that we have things in our world that you as a blind person don't have, 174 00:11:05,095 --> 00:11:06,819 but what's your world like? 175 00:11:06,819 --> 00:11:09,582 What do you have that we don't have? 176 00:11:09,582 --> 00:11:12,717 DK: Three hundred and sixty-degree view, 177 00:11:12,717 --> 00:11:16,618 so my sonar works about as well behind me as it does in front of me. 178 00:11:16,618 --> 00:11:18,499 It works around corners. 179 00:11:18,499 --> 00:11:21,238 It works through surfaces. 180 00:11:22,448 --> 00:11:27,229 Generally, it's kind of a fuzzy three-dimensional geometry. 181 00:11:27,229 --> 00:11:31,269 One of my students, who has now become an instructor, 182 00:11:31,269 --> 00:11:34,195 when he lost his vision, after a few months 183 00:11:34,195 --> 00:11:36,447 he was sitting in his three story house 184 00:11:36,447 --> 00:11:40,464 and he realized that he could hear everything going on throughout the house: 185 00:11:40,464 --> 00:11:44,643 conversations, people in the kitchen, people in the bathroom, 186 00:11:44,643 --> 00:11:47,337 several floors away, several walls away. 187 00:11:47,337 --> 00:11:50,889 He said it was something like having x-ray vision. 188 00:11:50,889 --> 00:11:54,511 CA: What do you picture that you're in right now? 189 00:11:54,511 --> 00:11:57,530 How do you picture this theater? 190 00:11:57,530 --> 00:12:03,033 DK: Lots of loudspeakers, quite frankly. 191 00:12:04,453 --> 00:12:08,709 It's interesting. When people make a sound, 192 00:12:08,709 --> 00:12:13,864 when they laugh, when they fidget, when they take a drink or blow their nose 193 00:12:13,864 --> 00:12:16,557 or whatever, I hear everything. 194 00:12:16,557 --> 00:12:19,738 I hear every little movement that every single person makes. 195 00:12:19,738 --> 00:12:22,501 None of it really escapes my attention, 196 00:12:22,501 --> 00:12:24,355 and then, from a sonar perspective, 197 00:12:24,355 --> 00:12:30,209 the size of the room, the curvature of the audience around the stage, 198 00:12:30,209 --> 00:12:33,847 it's the height of the room. 199 00:12:33,847 --> 00:12:37,127 Like I say, it's all that kind of three-dimensional surface geometry 200 00:12:37,127 --> 00:12:38,544 all around me. 201 00:12:38,544 --> 00:12:40,830 CA: Well, Daniel, you have done a spectacular job 202 00:12:40,830 --> 00:12:43,655 of helping us all see the world in a different way. 203 00:12:43,655 --> 00:12:45,825 Thanks so much for that, truly. DK: Thank you. 204 00:12:45,825 --> 00:12:50,214 (Applause)