WEBVTT 00:00:00.541 --> 00:00:02.436 ways to address some of these barriers; 00:00:03.019 --> 00:00:07.302 just generally, trans leadership and recentering trans narratives, 00:00:07.302 --> 00:00:09.171 so: not tokenizing people; 00:00:09.171 --> 00:00:12.412 allowing people to have the opportunity to both tell their own stories 00:00:12.412 --> 00:00:15.533 but produce and direct and design for their own stories 00:00:15.830 --> 00:00:18.766 and within that is also not allowing, not assuming 00:00:18.766 --> 00:00:22.169 that a play by a trans playwright or a play about a trans experience 00:00:22.169 --> 00:00:24.534 has to be about people's trauma with their gender; 00:00:25.021 --> 00:00:27.841 that there is much more nuance and diversity in experience. 00:00:28.877 --> 00:00:31.303 Ok. Coming off. That'll be great. 00:00:32.489 --> 00:00:37.153 The other thing that was talked about in terms of institutional is actually 00:00:37.459 --> 00:00:38.328 (should have been on this one; 00:00:38.328 --> 00:00:40.499 this is what happens when you try and hold and write at the same time) 00:00:40.980 --> 00:00:42.141 Casting policy: 00:00:42.417 --> 00:00:45.392 so an example that got brought up with Shakespeare Santa Cruz 00:00:45.392 --> 00:00:47.344 and, like, an intentional effort of being, like, 00:00:47.344 --> 00:00:48.654 we're going to cast fifty 00:00:48.654 --> 00:00:53.007 -- acknowledging there isn't necessarily, like, a policy right now in terms of 00:00:53.007 --> 00:00:55.293 trans- or gender non-conforming or non-binary folks -- 00:00:55.293 --> 00:00:57.794 but a policy that does exist is a commitment to cast 00:00:57.794 --> 00:01:00.347 fifty percent women, fifty percent people of color 00:01:00.347 --> 00:01:02.731 and what we talked about for strategies are what are strategies 00:01:02.731 --> 00:01:04.546 that people are already doing for equity 00:01:04.546 --> 00:01:09.179 that could be then targeted towards or engaged towards other populations. 00:01:09.829 --> 00:01:11.920 Within that was also training staff 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:14.437 to prepare with the co... to engage with the content. 00:01:14.503 --> 00:01:16.792 So, not just the artists that are going to be on stage 00:01:16.792 --> 00:01:18.893 but your marketing folks, your box office folks, 00:01:18.893 --> 00:01:20.653 anybody that's going to have to talk about the work 00:01:20.653 --> 00:01:22.729 or engage with the public about the work. 00:01:23.616 --> 00:01:25.805 And then another thing within the kind of... 00:01:26.218 --> 00:01:28.506 is engaging trans- arts organizations. 00:01:28.506 --> 00:01:30.738 So both, like, reaching out 00:01:30.738 --> 00:01:32.977 in terms of performers and designers and directors 00:01:32.977 --> 00:01:34.916 but also advocating for them 00:01:34.916 --> 00:01:37.804 so they get the resources they need to do their own work. 00:01:38.036 --> 00:01:40.334 So it's a very...like, so it's a reciprocal relationship 00:01:40.334 --> 00:01:41.247 and not just being, like, 00:01:41.247 --> 00:01:44.204 "Hey give us your performers and we're not going to do anything back" 00:01:44.204 --> 00:01:46.341 and really developing a thriving arts ecosystem 00:01:46.341 --> 00:01:47.910 that supports more trans- artists. 00:01:48.265 --> 00:01:51.498 And within that is paying trans actors more than you pay non-trans actors. 00:01:51.498 --> 00:01:52.734 So one of the examples, like, 00:01:52.734 --> 00:01:55.193 if you have one trans- role every four years 00:01:55.193 --> 00:01:57.836 you can afford to pay somebody a little bit more. 00:01:58.876 --> 00:02:00.498 So that's what we had. 00:02:00.839 --> 00:02:01.944 Cool. 00:02:03.111 --> 00:02:04.990 You want help holding your giant whiteboard? 00:02:08.983 --> 00:02:09.986 One more. 00:02:19.728 --> 00:02:22.540 You should have a mic over there as well. or we can share. 00:02:24.821 --> 00:02:31.689 So we had thirty minutes to have a really complicated conversation 00:02:32.073 --> 00:02:38.541 and this board sort of reflects the journey of that in that space. 00:02:40.192 --> 00:02:43.534 So we actually are not going to go through each of the individual things, 00:02:43.534 --> 00:02:45.082 and we're going to ask for folks to come up here 00:02:45.082 --> 00:02:48.950 and engage with this, you know, as you're in the space today. 00:02:49.596 --> 00:02:51.902 The main things that Jack and I wanted to say 00:02:51.902 --> 00:02:53.374 -- please feel free to jump in, Jack -- 00:02:53.811 --> 00:02:55.248 errh, you know, we talked... 00:02:55.248 --> 00:02:58.400 most of this work that we talked about is for allies. 00:02:58.642 --> 00:03:01.065 It's allies -- work that allies need to do. 00:03:01.455 --> 00:03:04.704 We talked a lot about the internal work that we need from leadership 00:03:04.902 --> 00:03:06.781 and then we talked a lot about 00:03:07.323 --> 00:03:12.264 more like external, systemic, cultural changes as well 00:03:12.437 --> 00:03:18.445 and a lot of that is represent... (blank audio) 00:03:18.458 --> 00:03:26.076 this is for all the, how, you know, (blank audio) 00:03:26.076 --> 00:03:28.840 to have a lot more time to talk about these things 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.367 and create a plan of action. 00:03:38.874 --> 00:03:46.925 It was good. It was really good and I'm not sure how to summarize. 00:03:47.302 --> 00:03:49.100 It was good... I'm just going to speak from the heart. 00:03:49.824 --> 00:03:51.526 We need more spaces like this. 00:03:53.645 --> 00:03:58.889 I've never, like SK said, seen so many trans-identified folks 00:03:59.230 --> 00:04:02.143 in the arts or in theater in the room together. 00:04:02.143 --> 00:04:03.400 That alone... 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:05.509 even the way we began was, like, 00:04:05.810 --> 00:04:11.326 we could spend the whole 30 minutes just on the first part of the workshop, 00:04:11.326 --> 00:04:12.972 which is "Welcome"; 00:04:13.222 --> 00:04:16.094 welcoming each other, that we could be in that space. 00:04:16.349 --> 00:04:17.947 There were so many things 00:04:17.947 --> 00:04:20.058 that we could have shared and needed to 00:04:20.058 --> 00:04:22.580 and just that alone, 00:04:22.580 --> 00:04:25.896 that we got to see each other and look at each other, 00:04:25.896 --> 00:04:28.995 and rush, and not have enough time. 00:04:29.316 --> 00:04:32.001 This messiness is our reality 00:04:32.393 --> 00:04:35.657 and the very embodied, manifested love 00:04:35.657 --> 00:04:37.960 that we've all come to share together. 00:04:37.960 --> 00:04:40.398 So I know that didn't, like, 00:04:40.398 --> 00:04:43.315 conceptually summarize that but... 00:04:43.315 --> 00:04:46.064 It needed to be said. Beautiful. Great. 00:04:46.898 --> 00:04:49.830 So then we have one more share out from you all, is that true? 00:04:49.861 --> 00:04:51.210 Institutional. 00:04:51.442 --> 00:04:52.615 We can just put it up. 00:04:52.890 --> 00:04:54.360 Yeah, I think for time reasons. 00:04:54.581 --> 00:04:55.014 OK. 00:04:55.014 --> 00:04:56.095 We're putting it up for people to respond. 00:04:58.507 --> 00:05:00.039 Great, so it's me and Jack. 00:05:00.521 --> 00:05:01.514 Great. 00:05:01.514 --> 00:05:05.011 So I think I would love to just say thank you all 00:05:05.011 --> 00:05:07.436 for participating in these conversations 00:05:07.436 --> 00:05:09.292 and really engaging with this work... 00:05:09.782 --> 00:05:11.935 super grateful for every single person 00:05:11.935 --> 00:05:15.011 that is in the room and is at things. 00:05:15.259 --> 00:05:16.329 Say that again. 00:05:16.951 --> 00:05:18.274 Oh, sure. 00:05:18.441 --> 00:05:20.530 We're about to break out into some... 00:05:20.530 --> 00:05:23.829 We'll take a half an hour break to have some wine and some food 00:05:23.829 --> 00:05:26.034 and folks that are coming just for the staged readings 00:05:26.034 --> 00:05:27.424 are going to join us as well 00:05:27.424 --> 00:05:28.950 and it might be a nice time just take a breather. 00:05:28.950 --> 00:05:31.295 I don't know about you all but this turtleneck is making me hot. 00:05:33.393 --> 00:05:38.984 but, Lisa has some you know, programs, some evaluations to pass out. 00:05:38.984 --> 00:05:40.721 If you have a second please fill one out. 00:05:40.721 --> 00:05:43.478 This is definitely one of Cal Shakes civic dialogues, 00:05:43.478 --> 00:05:45.168 and we're super grateful for their support 00:05:46.054 --> 00:05:49.003 and with that I just encourage you all to keep the conversations going. 00:05:49.624 --> 00:05:53.407 We have half an hour and we'll meet back here at six 00:05:53.693 --> 00:05:55.633 to see some art some really cool art 00:05:55.633 --> 00:05:57.295 by some trans- playwrights of color 00:05:58.288 --> 00:05:59.361 and we'll leave it at that. 00:05:59.361 --> 00:06:01.922 Thanks so much. Cheers. 00:06:05.298 --> 00:06:07.413 If you don't want to put your name on this 00:06:07.413 --> 00:06:09.234 that's one thing I forgot to say now, 00:06:09.234 --> 00:06:12.697 but if you can put what city you are from that would be super helpful. 00:06:13.099 --> 00:06:16.277 Shows the people who give us money what they paid for.