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ways to address some of these barriers;

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just generally, trans leadership and[br]recentering trans narratives,

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so: not tokenizing people;

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allowing people to have the opportunity[br]to both tell their own stories

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but produce and direct and design[br]for their own stories

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and within that is also not allowing, [br]not assuming

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that a play by a trans playwright[br]or a play about a trans experience

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has to be about people's trauma[br]with their gender;

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that there is much more [br]nuance and diversity in experience.

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Ok. Coming off. That'll be great.

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The other thing that was talked about[br]in terms of institutional is actually

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(should have been on this one;

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this is what happens when you try [br]and hold and write at the same time)

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Casting policy:

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so an example that got brought up[br]with Shakespeare Santa Cruz

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and, like, an intentional effort[br]of being, like,

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we're going to cast fifty

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-- acknowledging there isn't necessarily, [br]like, a policy right now in terms of

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trans- or gender non-conforming [br]or non-binary folks --

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but a policy that does exist[br]is a commitment to cast

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fifty percent women, [br]fifty percent people of color

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and what we talked about for strategies[br]are what are strategies

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that people are already doing for equity

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that could be then targeted towards[br]or engaged towards other populations.

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Within that was also training staff

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to prepare with the co...[br]to engage with the content.

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So, not just the artists[br]that are going to be on stage

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but your marketing folks,[br]your box office folks,

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anybody that's going to have [br]to talk about the work

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or engage with the public about the work.

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And then another thing [br]within the kind of...

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is engaging trans- arts organizations.

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So both, like, reaching out

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in terms of performers[br]and designers and directors

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but also advocating for them

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so they get the resources they need[br]to do their own work.

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So it's a very...like,[br]so it's a reciprocal relationship

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and not just being, like,

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"Hey give us your performers[br]and we're not going to do anything back"

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and really developing [br]a thriving arts ecosystem

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that supports more trans- artists.

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And within that is paying trans actors[br]more than you pay non-trans actors.

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So one of the examples, like,

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if you have one trans- role [br]every four years

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you can afford to pay somebody [br]a little bit more.

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So that's what we had.

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Cool.

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You want help holding your giant whiteboard?

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One more.

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You should have a mic over there as well.[br]or we can share.

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So we had thirty minutes to[br]have a really complicated conversation

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and this board sort of reflects[br]the journey of that in that space.

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So we actually are not going to[br]go through each of the individual things,

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and we're going to ask for folks [br]to come up here

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and engage with this, you know,[br]as you're in the space today.

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The main things that Jack and I [br]wanted to say

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-- please feel free to jump in, Jack --

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errh, you know, we talked...

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most of this work that we talked about[br]is for allies.

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It's allies -- work that allies need to do.

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We talked a lot about the internal work[br]that we need from leadership

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and then we talked a lot about

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more like external, systemic, [br]cultural changes as well

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and a lot of that is represent...[br](blank audio)

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this is for all the, how, you know,[br](blank audio)

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to have a lot more time[br]to talk about these things

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and create a plan of action.

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It was good. It was really good and[br]I'm not sure how to summarize.

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It was good...[br]I'm just going to speak from the heart.

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We need more spaces like this.

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I've never, like SK said,[br]seen so many trans-identified folks

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in the arts or in theater[br]in the room together.

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That alone...

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even the way we began was, like,

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we could spend the whole 30 minutes[br]just on the first part of the workshop,

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which is "Welcome";

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welcoming each other,[br]that we could be in that space.

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There were so many things

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that we could have shared[br]and needed to

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and just that alone,

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that we got to see each other[br]and look at each other,

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and rush, and not have enough time.

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This messiness is our reality

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and the very embodied, manifested love

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that we've all come to share together.

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So I know that didn't, like,

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conceptually summarize that but...

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It needed to be said. Beautiful. Great.

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So then we have one more share out [br]from you all, is that true?

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Institutional.

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We can just put it up.

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Yeah, I think for time reasons.

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OK.

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We're putting it up for people to respond.

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Great, so it's me and Jack.

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Great.

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So I think I would love[br]to just say thank you all

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for participating in these conversations

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and really engaging with this work...

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super grateful[br]for every single person

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that is in the room[br]and is at things.

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Say that again.

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Oh, sure.

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We're about to break out into some...

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We'll take a half an hour break to[br]have some wine and some food

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and folks that are coming [br]just for the staged readings

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are going to join us as well

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and it might be a nice time[br]just take a breather.

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I don't know about you all[br]but this turtleneck is making me hot.

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but, Lisa has some you know, programs,[br]some evaluations to pass out.

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If you have a second please fill one out.

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This is definitely one of[br]Cal Shakes civic dialogues,

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and we're super grateful for their support

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and with that I just encourage you all[br]to keep the conversations going.

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We have half an hour[br]and we'll meet back here at six

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to see some art[br]some really cool art

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by some trans- playwrights of color

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and we'll leave it at that.

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Thanks so much.[br]Cheers.

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If you don't want to put your name on this

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that's one thing I forgot to say now,

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but if you can put what city you are from[br]that would be super helpful.

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Shows the people who give us money[br]what they paid for.