1 00:00:00,556 --> 00:00:03,994 It's a great time to be a molecular biologist. (Laughter) 2 00:00:03,994 --> 00:00:06,876 Reading and writing DNA code is getting easier 3 00:00:06,876 --> 00:00:08,408 and cheaper. 4 00:00:08,408 --> 00:00:10,578 By the end of this year, we'll be able to sequence 5 00:00:10,578 --> 00:00:12,282 the three million bits of information 6 00:00:12,282 --> 00:00:15,252 in your genome in less than a day 7 00:00:15,252 --> 00:00:17,662 and for less than 1,000 euros. 8 00:00:17,662 --> 00:00:20,492 Biotech is probably the most powerful 9 00:00:20,492 --> 00:00:23,516 and the fastest-growing technology sector. 10 00:00:23,516 --> 00:00:26,818 It has the power, potentially, 11 00:00:26,818 --> 00:00:29,035 to replace our fossil fuels, 12 00:00:29,035 --> 00:00:31,252 to revolutionize medicine, 13 00:00:31,252 --> 00:00:35,463 and to touch every aspect of our daily lives. 14 00:00:35,463 --> 00:00:39,295 So who gets to do it? 15 00:00:39,295 --> 00:00:41,790 I think we'd all be pretty comfortable with 16 00:00:41,790 --> 00:00:45,062 this guy doing it. 17 00:00:45,062 --> 00:00:46,977 But what about 18 00:00:46,977 --> 00:00:49,849 that guy? (Laughter) 19 00:00:49,849 --> 00:00:51,719 (Laughter) 20 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:57,193 In 2009, I first heard about DIYbio. 21 00:00:57,193 --> 00:01:01,306 It's a movement that -- it advocates making biotechnology 22 00:01:01,306 --> 00:01:03,387 accessible to everyone, 23 00:01:03,387 --> 00:01:07,026 not just scientists and people in government labs. 24 00:01:07,026 --> 00:01:10,566 The idea is that if you open up the science 25 00:01:10,566 --> 00:01:13,369 and you allow diverse groups to participate, 26 00:01:13,369 --> 00:01:15,062 it could really stimulate innovation. 27 00:01:15,062 --> 00:01:17,868 Putting technology in the hands of the end user 28 00:01:17,868 --> 00:01:21,057 is usually a good idea because they've got the best idea 29 00:01:21,057 --> 00:01:23,160 of what their needs are. 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,297 And here's this really sophisticated technology 31 00:01:26,297 --> 00:01:29,041 coming down the road, all these associated 32 00:01:29,041 --> 00:01:31,738 social, moral, ethical questions, 33 00:01:31,738 --> 00:01:35,129 and we scientists are just lousy at explaining to the public 34 00:01:35,129 --> 00:01:39,011 just exactly what it is we're doing in those labs. 35 00:01:39,011 --> 00:01:41,739 So wouldn't it be nice 36 00:01:41,739 --> 00:01:44,175 if there was a place in your local neighborhood 37 00:01:44,175 --> 00:01:46,755 where you could go and learn about this stuff, 38 00:01:46,755 --> 00:01:49,078 do it hands-on? 39 00:01:49,078 --> 00:01:50,593 I thought so. 40 00:01:50,593 --> 00:01:52,473 So, three years ago, I got together 41 00:01:52,473 --> 00:01:56,010 with some friends of mine who had similar aspirations 42 00:01:56,010 --> 00:01:58,145 and we founded Genspace. 43 00:01:58,145 --> 00:02:01,601 It's a nonprofit, a community biotech lab 44 00:02:01,601 --> 00:02:02,955 in Brooklyn, New York, 45 00:02:02,955 --> 00:02:04,724 and the idea was people could come, 46 00:02:04,724 --> 00:02:08,697 they could take classes and putter around in the lab 47 00:02:08,697 --> 00:02:12,809 in a very open, friendly atmosphere. 48 00:02:12,809 --> 00:02:15,450 None of my previous experience prepared me 49 00:02:15,450 --> 00:02:18,795 for what came next. Can you guess? 50 00:02:18,795 --> 00:02:21,523 The press started calling us. 51 00:02:21,523 --> 00:02:24,641 And the more we talked about how great it was to increase 52 00:02:24,641 --> 00:02:27,313 science literacy, the more they wanted to talk 53 00:02:27,313 --> 00:02:30,441 about us creating the next Frankenstein, 54 00:02:30,441 --> 00:02:33,446 and as a result, for the next six months, 55 00:02:33,446 --> 00:02:35,223 when you Googled my name, 56 00:02:35,223 --> 00:02:39,276 instead of getting my scientific papers, you got this. 57 00:02:39,276 --> 00:02:40,854 ["Am I a biohazard?"] 58 00:02:40,854 --> 00:02:42,987 (Laughter) 59 00:02:42,987 --> 00:02:44,778 It was pretty depressing. 60 00:02:44,778 --> 00:02:47,738 The only thing that got us through that period 61 00:02:47,738 --> 00:02:49,599 was that we knew that all over the world, 62 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:51,185 there were other people that were trying to do 63 00:02:51,185 --> 00:02:53,121 the same thing that we were. 64 00:02:53,121 --> 00:02:55,625 They were opening biohacker spaces, and some of them 65 00:02:55,625 --> 00:02:58,266 were facing much greater challenges than we did, 66 00:02:58,266 --> 00:03:02,383 more regulations, less resources. 67 00:03:02,383 --> 00:03:06,582 But now, three years later, here's where we stand. 68 00:03:06,582 --> 00:03:11,000 It's a vibrant, global community of hackerspaces, 69 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,902 and this is just the beginning. 70 00:03:12,902 --> 00:03:14,963 These are some of the biggest ones, 71 00:03:14,963 --> 00:03:17,027 and there are others opening every day. 72 00:03:17,027 --> 00:03:19,898 There's one probably going to open up in Moscow, 73 00:03:19,898 --> 00:03:21,197 one in South Korea, 74 00:03:21,197 --> 00:03:23,523 and the cool thing is they each have their own 75 00:03:23,523 --> 00:03:25,306 individual flavor 76 00:03:25,306 --> 00:03:27,630 that grew out of the community they came out of. 77 00:03:27,630 --> 00:03:30,769 Let me take you on a little tour. 78 00:03:30,769 --> 00:03:33,217 Biohackers work alone. 79 00:03:33,217 --> 00:03:35,777 We work in groups, 80 00:03:35,777 --> 00:03:40,162 in big cities — (Laughter) — 81 00:03:40,162 --> 00:03:42,832 and in small villages. 82 00:03:42,832 --> 00:03:45,600 We reverse engineer lab equipment. 83 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,136 We genetically engineer bacteria. 84 00:03:48,136 --> 00:03:50,363 We hack hardware, 85 00:03:50,363 --> 00:03:52,608 software, 86 00:03:52,608 --> 00:03:55,032 wetware, 87 00:03:55,032 --> 00:03:57,968 and, of course, the code of life. 88 00:03:57,968 --> 00:04:00,903 We like to build things. 89 00:04:00,903 --> 00:04:07,290 Then we like to take things apart. 90 00:04:07,290 --> 00:04:09,406 We make things grow. 91 00:04:09,406 --> 00:04:11,208 We make things glow. 92 00:04:11,208 --> 00:04:15,175 And we make cells dance. 93 00:04:15,175 --> 00:04:18,966 The spirit of these labs, it's open, it's positive, 94 00:04:18,966 --> 00:04:21,407 but, you know, sometimes when people think of us, 95 00:04:21,407 --> 00:04:25,434 the first thing that comes to mind is bio-safety, 96 00:04:25,434 --> 00:04:28,511 bio-security, all the dark side stuff. 97 00:04:28,511 --> 00:04:31,119 I'm not going to minimize those concerns. 98 00:04:31,119 --> 00:04:34,916 Any powerful technology is inherently dual use, 99 00:04:34,916 --> 00:04:36,133 and, you know, you get something like 100 00:04:36,133 --> 00:04:39,983 synthetic biology, nanobiotechnology, 101 00:04:39,983 --> 00:04:42,607 it really compels you, you have to look at both 102 00:04:42,607 --> 00:04:46,020 the amateur groups but also the professional groups, 103 00:04:46,020 --> 00:04:48,471 because they have better infrastructure, 104 00:04:48,471 --> 00:04:50,019 they have better facilities, 105 00:04:50,019 --> 00:04:52,518 and they have access to pathogens. 106 00:04:52,518 --> 00:04:55,798 So the United Nations did just that, and they recently 107 00:04:55,798 --> 00:04:58,406 issued a report on this whole area, 108 00:04:58,406 --> 00:05:01,478 and what they concluded was the power of this technology 109 00:05:01,478 --> 00:05:05,330 for positive was much greater than the risk for negative, 110 00:05:05,330 --> 00:05:08,859 and they even looked specifically at the DIYbio community, 111 00:05:08,859 --> 00:05:12,404 and they noted, not surprisingly, that the press 112 00:05:12,404 --> 00:05:16,428 had a tendency to consistently overestimate our capabilities 113 00:05:16,428 --> 00:05:18,963 and underestimate our ethics. 114 00:05:18,963 --> 00:05:22,492 As a matter of fact, DIY people from all over the world, 115 00:05:22,492 --> 00:05:25,222 America, Europe, got together last year, 116 00:05:25,222 --> 00:05:27,771 and we hammered out a common code of ethics. 117 00:05:27,771 --> 00:05:31,131 That's a lot more than conventional science has done. 118 00:05:31,131 --> 00:05:34,779 Now, we follow state and local regulations. 119 00:05:34,779 --> 00:05:36,775 We dispose of our waste properly, we follow 120 00:05:36,775 --> 00:05:40,116 safety procedures, we don't work with pathogens. 121 00:05:40,116 --> 00:05:42,819 You know, if you're working with a pathogen, 122 00:05:42,819 --> 00:05:45,363 you're not part of the biohacker community, 123 00:05:45,363 --> 00:05:48,516 you're part of the bioterrorist community, I'm sorry. 124 00:05:48,516 --> 00:05:50,439 And sometimes people ask me, 125 00:05:50,439 --> 00:05:52,326 "Well, what about an accident?" 126 00:05:52,326 --> 00:05:55,884 Well, working with the safe organisms that we normally 127 00:05:55,884 --> 00:05:59,243 work with, the chance of an accident happening 128 00:05:59,243 --> 00:06:01,571 with somebody accidentally creating, like, 129 00:06:01,571 --> 00:06:03,217 some sort of superbug, 130 00:06:03,217 --> 00:06:07,467 that's literally about as probable as a snowstorm 131 00:06:07,467 --> 00:06:09,539 in the middle of the Sahara Desert. 132 00:06:09,539 --> 00:06:10,893 Now, it could happen, 133 00:06:10,893 --> 00:06:15,049 but I'm not going to plan my life around it. 134 00:06:15,049 --> 00:06:17,979 I've actually chosen to take a different kind of risk. 135 00:06:17,979 --> 00:06:21,091 I signed up for something called the Personal Genome Project. 136 00:06:21,091 --> 00:06:23,563 It's a study at Harvard where, at the end of the study, 137 00:06:23,563 --> 00:06:26,331 they're going to take my entire genomic sequence, 138 00:06:26,331 --> 00:06:30,003 all of my medical information, and my identity, 139 00:06:30,003 --> 00:06:34,145 and they're going to post it online for everyone to see. 140 00:06:34,145 --> 00:06:37,075 There were a lot of risks involved that they talked about 141 00:06:37,075 --> 00:06:38,851 during the informed consent portion. 142 00:06:38,851 --> 00:06:40,734 The one I liked the best is, 143 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:44,579 someone could download my sequence, go back to the lab, 144 00:06:44,579 --> 00:06:46,873 synthesize some fake Ellen DNA, 145 00:06:46,873 --> 00:06:50,947 and plant it at a crime scene. (Laughter) 146 00:06:50,947 --> 00:06:55,477 But like DIYbio, the positive outcomes and 147 00:06:55,477 --> 00:06:58,623 the potential for good for a study like that 148 00:06:58,623 --> 00:07:00,675 far outweighs the risk. 149 00:07:00,675 --> 00:07:03,076 Now, you might be asking yourself, 150 00:07:03,076 --> 00:07:06,513 "Well, you know, what would I do in a biolab?" 151 00:07:06,513 --> 00:07:09,842 Well, it wasn't that long ago we were asking, "Well, 152 00:07:09,842 --> 00:07:12,907 what would anyone do with a personal computer?" 153 00:07:12,907 --> 00:07:14,871 So this stuff is just beginning. 154 00:07:14,871 --> 00:07:18,747 We're only seeing just the tip of the DNA iceberg. 155 00:07:18,747 --> 00:07:21,832 Let me show you what you could do right now. 156 00:07:21,832 --> 00:07:25,667 A biohacker in Germany, a journalist, wanted to know 157 00:07:25,667 --> 00:07:28,901 whose dog was leaving little presents on his street? 158 00:07:28,901 --> 00:07:31,811 (Laughter) (Applause) 159 00:07:31,811 --> 00:07:34,517 Yep, you guessed it. He threw tennis balls 160 00:07:34,517 --> 00:07:37,779 to all the neighborhood dogs, analyzed the saliva, 161 00:07:37,779 --> 00:07:41,673 identified the dog, and confronted the dog owner. 162 00:07:41,673 --> 00:07:47,949 (Laughter) (Applause) 163 00:07:47,949 --> 00:07:51,253 I discovered an invasive species in my own backyard. 164 00:07:51,253 --> 00:07:53,193 Looked like a ladybug, right? 165 00:07:53,193 --> 00:07:55,241 It actually is a Japanese beetle. 166 00:07:55,241 --> 00:07:57,152 And the same kind of technology -- 167 00:07:57,152 --> 00:07:59,236 it's called DNA barcoding, it's really cool -- 168 00:07:59,236 --> 00:08:04,102 You can use it to check if your caviar is really beluga, 169 00:08:04,102 --> 00:08:07,335 if that sushi is really tuna, or if that goat cheese 170 00:08:07,335 --> 00:08:10,749 that you paid so much for is really goat's. 171 00:08:10,749 --> 00:08:14,650 In a biohacker space, you can analyze your genome 172 00:08:14,650 --> 00:08:15,942 for mutations. 173 00:08:15,942 --> 00:08:19,166 You can analyze your breakfast cereal for GMO's, 174 00:08:19,166 --> 00:08:22,084 and you can explore your ancestry. 175 00:08:22,084 --> 00:08:24,441 You can send weather balloons up into the stratosphere, 176 00:08:24,441 --> 00:08:28,063 collect microbes, see what's up there. 177 00:08:28,063 --> 00:08:30,494 You can make a biocensor out of yeast 178 00:08:30,494 --> 00:08:32,681 to detect pollutants in water. 179 00:08:32,681 --> 00:08:36,313 You can make some sort of a biofuel cell. 180 00:08:36,313 --> 00:08:38,606 You can do a lot of things. 181 00:08:38,606 --> 00:08:41,996 You can also do an art science project. Some of these 182 00:08:41,996 --> 00:08:45,637 are really spectacular, and they look at social, 183 00:08:45,637 --> 00:08:48,323 ecological problems from a completely different perspective. 184 00:08:48,323 --> 00:08:49,885 It's really cool. 185 00:08:49,885 --> 00:08:52,903 Some people ask me, well, why am I involved? 186 00:08:52,903 --> 00:08:56,998 I could have a perfectly good career in mainstream science. 187 00:08:56,998 --> 00:08:59,526 The thing is, there's something in these labs 188 00:08:59,526 --> 00:09:02,185 that they have to offer society that you can't find 189 00:09:02,185 --> 00:09:04,152 anywhere else. 190 00:09:04,152 --> 00:09:06,830 There's something sacred about a space where 191 00:09:06,830 --> 00:09:09,342 you can work on a project, and you don't have to justify 192 00:09:09,342 --> 00:09:12,216 to anyone that it's going to make a lot of money, 193 00:09:12,216 --> 00:09:15,471 that it's going to save mankind, or even that it's feasible. 194 00:09:15,471 --> 00:09:18,398 It just has to follow safety guidelines. 195 00:09:18,398 --> 00:09:21,254 If you had spaces like this all over the world, 196 00:09:21,254 --> 00:09:23,486 it could really change the perception 197 00:09:23,486 --> 00:09:26,018 of who's allowed to do biotech. 198 00:09:26,018 --> 00:09:29,710 It's spaces like these that spawned personal computing. 199 00:09:29,710 --> 00:09:32,126 Why not personal biotech? 200 00:09:32,126 --> 00:09:34,503 If everyone in this room got involved, 201 00:09:34,503 --> 00:09:36,251 who knows what we could do? 202 00:09:36,251 --> 00:09:40,011 This is such a new area, and as we say back in Brooklyn, 203 00:09:40,011 --> 00:09:43,291 you ain't seen nothin' yet. (Laughter) 204 00:09:43,291 --> 00:09:47,261 (Applause)