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(Portuguese): The lovely and hospitable capital

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of the state of Minas Gerais.

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Good afternoon,

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I won't speak in Portuguese because

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I don't speak Portuguese.

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And I don't want to invent[br]the first talk in Portuñol.

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So I'm going to speak English.

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I come from Mexico.

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So, thirty years ago,[br]I was born in Mexico City

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and as you may know,[br]Mexico is the country where corn,

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maize, was born centuries ago.

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We call it the land of corn.

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And actually, corn is very important[br]in our culture,

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but not just in our culture,

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but mainly in our gastronomy.

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And maybe some of you have been going to

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Mexican restaurants, eating tacos, maybe.

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Maybe burritos, although burritos

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are not really Mexican, sorry.

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But they mostly use what we have here,

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which are tortillas.

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These tortillas are made out of corn,[br]and in Mexico,

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corn consumption is quite big.

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As you can see there,[br]from the statistics from the FAO,

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per person, per year, a Mexican

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eats around 120 kg of corn.

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So, it's not just important[br]in terms of the culture,

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but is very important[br]in terms of nutrition.

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So, by knowing that,[br]when I was 15 years old

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I started having dreams,[br]and my dream at that stage was

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to help creating an enhancement,

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a nutritious enhancement in corn.

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So, my fellow citizens,[br]Mexicans that eat a lot of tortillas

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every day, like bread,[br]will have a better nutrition, ok?

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That was my dream when I was 15.

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And I suppose people like me[br]when I was 15

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and you have a dream like that,[br]the first thing you start to do

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is to decide to study science,[br]engineering,

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so that's what I did.

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So step by step I started[br]studying biochemical engineering,

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graduated, and quite fast,[br]at the age of 23,

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I was already working[br]as a research associate

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at the University of Canterbury

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in the Biological Science Department.

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I quickly started to participate in projects

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related to research[br]on biotechnology, which made sense,

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if I come back to my previous dream.

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So, I don't know, if you think[br]a lot about inflexions in life,

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those moments that suddenly[br]change the direction,

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the current trend of your life,[br]and transforming

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all deviating into a new one.

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To me, this happened in 2005.

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In 2005 I had the opportunity[br]to go to the Solomon Islands.

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I don’t know if many of you[br]know the Solomon Islands.

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Well, the Solomon Islands[br]is actually a country,

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that is situated in the Pacific.

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It is part of the Pacific Islands.

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So, this is a picture[br]that I took from the plane,

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this is what it looks like.

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It is a very interesting place[br]with the highest concentration

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of ethnicities and languages in the world.

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And despite of all of that[br]we don’t know it too much.

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We actually know more[br]about the Solomon Islands

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because this was the place[br]where lots of the navel battles

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during the Second World War happened

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and lots of divers go, for example,

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but not many other people.

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So, I was actually invited there[br]by a conservation biologist

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from the Solomon’s[br]called Patrick Pikacha.

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He brought me to an island[br]that is called Choiseul Island,

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which it is in the Solomon Islands[br]but it is next to the border

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with Papua New Guinea,[br]and this is how it looks.

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Very beautiful[br]and it will probably look like

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some other places here also in Brazil.[br]

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So, we went there[br]because Patrick was doing some work,

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trying to monitor a native species,

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in particular he likes to study frogs.

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So, I don’t know why,[br]but scientists like him,

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biologists, like to work[br]at night, maybe because frogs

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usually go out at night

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like some people here[br]also in Brazil, and Latin America.

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Well, just like frogs, we had to go[br]outside at night,

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with Patrick, and we were looking[br]for these frogs

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and just after 30 seconds[br]of getting out of the field station,

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I realized that this was[br]not my environment, completely.

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I was completely blind.[br]Imagine this dark to me,

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I was completely like a blind man.

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I already wear glasses.[br]Imagine me in here.

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Because I am very used to cities,[br]for example,

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but not really this kind of environment.

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It was even more interesting,[br]my experience,

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when I started to see that Patrick[br]was using his lantern on the river,

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starting to spot some[br]of the different frogs.

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For me, it was completely invisible.

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But the most interesting thing here,[br]is that the boy,

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the teenager that was leading[br]the expedition,

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he was actually spotting[br]the place where organisms

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were going to appear,[br]even before the expert,

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even before Patrick.

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And at that moment I started to realize

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that something interesting was happening,

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and I started to look on[br]how this non-expert, this teenager,

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had a different sight, definitely,[br]compared to mine,

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but also different from[br]the real expert, from Patrick.

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But the Solomon Islands[br]do not only have a forest,

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they also have cities.

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And in the city of Honiara,[br]which is the capital,

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we and some colleagues[br]from the University of Canterbury,

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like professor Jack Hyneman,[br]my friend and colleague

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from the Solomon Islands Paul Roughan,

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started to organize some

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capacity building initiatives[br]to discuss biotechnology

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in the Solomon Islands[br]and discuss biology in general.

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The person you see here is Naneth Tutua.

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She is a business woman[br]from the Solomon Islands.

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What she is [holding] there[br]is a DNA extraction

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from a papaya.

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She was able to visualize DNA.

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So how did this happen?

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Because Solomon Islands is considered

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one of the least developed places[br]in the world.

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So, there are no real laboratories[br]for molecular biology there.

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But what we had to do is to improvise.

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To do a different kind[br]of experiment in order to extract DNA

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and so, Ms. Naneth[br]could see what DNA looks like,

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and by looking at this,[br]she was able to demystify DNA.

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And DNA was just not something

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that is abstract[br]and she cannot understand,

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this time she was able to see it,[br]understand it,

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and when someone wants[br]to talk about biotechnology,

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she has somehow,[br]some confidence to talk about this.

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She seems quite proud[br]of doing her extraction.

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And naturally, DNA extractions,[br]I don’t know if you know,

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but are quite easy to do.

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You just need salt,[br]detergent and alcohol.

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So I started to use[br]these three ingredients,

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put it in my bag[br]and started to travel around,

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doing exactly what we did[br]in the Solomon’s,

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repeating the experience, bringing

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the demystification of DNA.

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This happens in different places[br]of the world

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but definitely my[br]most important experience

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was when last November,[br]a DNA extraction was featured

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in a Chilean soap opera[br]called Decibel 110.

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A low cost kitchen DNA extraction

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was part of this meet-up[br]between Francisco

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and his prohibited love, Cindy.

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We didn’t stop at the DNA extraction,[br]we suddenly started to play also

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with instruments of molecular biology.

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Here you have some pictures of workshops

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that we’ve performed[br]in Philippines, where we actually

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started to develop basic[br]molecular lab equipment,

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as you can see there,[br]it looks quite basic,

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but it's actually[br]some of the equipment

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that is mostly used in laboratories.

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So, once I started to build up[br]this kind of motion

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and instrument and trying to work out

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with these local's technology,[br]and the demystification

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and with all those travels,

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I suddenly found myself in West Africa.

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And West Africa was also[br]an inflexion point for me.

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The reason for that,[br]is that in West Africa

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I found for the first time[br]a hub of people

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that were thinking a bit like me.

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That were asking questions[br]about the experts,

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that were asking questions[br]about technology.

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What kind of technology?[br]For whom?

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They were asking questions about

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what Africa can bring to the world.

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The interesting thing here,[br]is that they were

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mainly social scientists,[br]but also farmers,

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and artists, talking about this.

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So we decided to stay more,[br]and I’ve been going

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to West Africa every year since 2007.

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And the basic question of it,[br]is based on this picture.

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As you can see we have a plane.

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A plane represents technology, I think,

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and as we can agree,[br]planes have changed

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the way we move,[br]the way we communicate,

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but also the way diseases are transmitted

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and also passed.

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But what is important here[br]is not just to look at the technology,

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but to look at the context surrounding it.

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And maybe for some of you[br]this will look quite nice.

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For me, it allows me to make[br]the questions about

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what is the context about.

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What this technology[br]can offer to the context?

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Does this technology fit into the context?

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And those were the questions used

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as a base for our documentary:

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(Music)

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(Video) Man (French): If science say so,[br]it counts as "the gospel".

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Science is made by man.

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Science must be made by man

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for man.

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Woman: Why do we do research?

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Who does the research?

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For what purpose?

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Man: And the specialists hide

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in their offices, in their sects,

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to decide for everybody.

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Man: To create an agricultural policy,

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without the farmers

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it means that we are not discussing[br]agriculture.

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Man: The farmer needs to consider himself[br]as a researcher

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as someone who works in a laboratory.

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Woman: It is not enough to research[br]inside a laboratory.

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Man: Today, we will extract DNA[br]from plants.

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Woman: Is not enough to do research[br]inside an institution.

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Man: We will use some salt,

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some detergent,

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we have alcohol and test tubes.

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We are able to extract DNA.[br]We saw it.

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I saw the DNA,[br]our friends saw the DNA.

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Without any electron[br]or optical microscope.

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Woman: We have to deinstitutionalize[br]the research!

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Camilo Rodriguez-Beltran: So,[br]this is just a fragment of the documentary

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“Autrement” (“Differently”),[br]that we did in West Africa,

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and, as you can see,[br]it just raises questions

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about technology, science,[br]but based on the context in West Africa.

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And as you can see there is[br]an empowerment of it.

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There is a message that Africans[br]want to say

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about what they can offer.

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So, after building kind of a boat,

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with instruments and methods,[br]we started to use them

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in different parts of the globe,

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then I decided also to observe. [br]

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And this comes from[br]a so called expert that is known

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now to talk about the non-experts.

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Usually the non-experts[br]are kind of invisible

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in this generation of knowledge.

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Mostly, non experts are consumers or users

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of knowledge, of technology, of science.

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We have had several[br]technological revolutions

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starting with Information Technology,

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starting also in agriculture,[br]lots of technical revolutions.

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But most of the people in the world,[br]and I'm talking here also of countries,

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have been mostly consumers and users.

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This is a list of the technologies

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that Peter Diamandis,[br]from Singularity University,

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proposed at the last TED.

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This list, which is quite interesting,

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he proposes are the technologies[br]that will change

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and that are already changing the future.

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And among these technologies,

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he also talks about the crowd,[br]and the power of the crowd.

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He actually introduced the term[br]cyber citizens,

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which are normal citizens,[br]people like us,

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that participate via online,[br]and in his example,

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it was in a game of folding proteins.

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Not only for the pleasure[br]of playing a game

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but actually to solve medical problems.

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And this is where we are now,[br]in a world where

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the non experts are not just[br]consumers and users,

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but they are transforming[br]themselves into contributors.

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We heard today,[br]this morning, a very good example of it

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happening here, in the Amazon.

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But some of these are also[br]what we call the Crowd-X,

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or crowdsourcing, or crowdfunding.

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A very good example is Wikipedia.

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Wikipedia is a contribution[br]of the non-experts.

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And we have lots of examples like that.

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The citizen science, the bio-hackers,

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this is happening right now.

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The Who is changing.

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The non-experts are contributing right now.

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However, I am here to propose

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something more radical,[br]than just being contributors.

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I want also to raise questions[br]regarding the What.

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What kind of technology?

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Is that the only list of technologies[br]that will shape the future?

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I don’t think so.

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I don’t think there is only[br]one way to see

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how we're going to develop[br]ourselves into the future.

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I actually think that we need more[br]and we have more.

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We need knowledge that starts to develop

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from the context, context-based.

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We heard some examples from West Africa

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and the Solomon's.

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Those are different contexts[br]and they can develop

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new ways to see generation of knowledge.

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We probably need to unlabel,

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not to say: science is just this,

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and if you start to bring some[br]art into this,

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then it's not science,[br]you can't talk about that.

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Maybe we have to start unlabeling things.

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For example, in our documentary,

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we talk about science and development

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but we use contemporary African dance[br]to talk about that, why?

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Because if you talk[br]about contemporary dance in Africa,

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things make sense.

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If you don’t use the culture,[br]things do not make sense.

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It is important to work out[br]in the demystification,

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in the democratization, decentralization.

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I think we can have very good examples[br]for research

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coming from these places.

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Solomon Islands,[br]this tiny archipelago, could become,

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for example, the best observatory,

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monitoring of global changes in the world.

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And these could be[br]the new research centers

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happening around the world,

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maybe these are the new contributors.

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I actually believe that we have passed

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from the technological revolution to,[br]right now,

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in a crowd revolution,[br]but we need something else.

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We need a humble revolution.[br]We need humbleness.

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We need to reduce our ego.

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Those who consider themselves specialists,[br]or experts,

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we need to reduce the ego.

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Once we reduce the ego,[br]we are able to identify

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the potential among our peers,

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among those that we call the non-experts.

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And, by doing that,[br]we will be able to start new directions.

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New directions for science, for technology,

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you can call it the way you want.[br]

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I will just finish with this slide,

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which to me represents empowerment,

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because I am here,[br]standing in front of you,

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and that dream that I had[br]when I was 15 years old,

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I want you to remember,[br]that dream has changed.

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That dream has actually expanded.

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I don’t want to build,[br]with a bunch of experts,

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a technological tool to help[br]the population of my country.

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I want to create something new.

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I want to expand my horizon,[br]and this is all.

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Thank you very much.

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(Applause)