1 00:00:08,224 --> 00:00:11,253 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. 2 00:00:11,253 --> 00:00:14,762 Well, what I'd like to do today in this very brief talk, 3 00:00:14,762 --> 00:00:18,642 is a small social revolution, I hope. 4 00:00:18,642 --> 00:00:22,730 As you can see behind me, my talk is about celebrating failure. 5 00:00:22,730 --> 00:00:27,033 And when you say failure, very often, people just switch off. 6 00:00:27,033 --> 00:00:29,173 But what I'd like to do is -- I'd like to suggest today 7 00:00:29,173 --> 00:00:33,153 that there are useful failures and not so useful failures. 8 00:00:33,153 --> 00:00:35,280 And i'd like to try and help you understand 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,381 how we can manage our failures. 10 00:00:38,381 --> 00:00:40,589 So I'll begin with a very simple question. 11 00:00:40,589 --> 00:00:45,234 The simple question is: who makes mistakes? 12 00:00:45,234 --> 00:00:48,296 Everybody absolutely, human beings make mistakes. 13 00:00:48,296 --> 00:00:51,255 All human beings make mistakes. 14 00:00:51,255 --> 00:00:52,951 There are no exceptions. 15 00:00:52,951 --> 00:00:56,978 So if it's inevitable for human beings to make mistakes -- 16 00:00:56,978 --> 00:01:01,004 Why is it that every single error that we make 17 00:01:01,004 --> 00:01:05,391 we tend to overexaggerate and see it as a disaster? 18 00:01:05,391 --> 00:01:07,640 We can't get there, we'll never get there. 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,371 It's as if an error, a mistake, a failure means no success, 20 00:01:12,371 --> 00:01:16,438 It's as if in our brains, we've got this idea of a spectrum, 21 00:01:16,438 --> 00:01:18,660 on one side you have success, 22 00:01:18,660 --> 00:01:21,090 and on the other side, it's failure. 23 00:01:21,090 --> 00:01:23,673 But what i'd like to suggest is that's not the case, 24 00:01:23,673 --> 00:01:26,744 and if we're able to understand failure, 25 00:01:26,744 --> 00:01:30,404 and failing well, and create a failing well culture, 26 00:01:30,404 --> 00:01:34,178 well then we can create the best path to success. 27 00:01:34,178 --> 00:01:35,681 But to do that, unfortunately, 28 00:01:35,681 --> 00:01:39,758 we have to make a very big shift in our perspectives. 29 00:01:39,758 --> 00:01:41,662 It's quite difficult. It's not easy to start 30 00:01:41,662 --> 00:01:44,060 thinking positively about failures. 31 00:01:44,060 --> 00:01:45,972 We need to embrace failures. 32 00:01:45,972 --> 00:01:48,842 What we tend to do is we tend to ignore them, 33 00:01:48,842 --> 00:01:53,088 or hide them, just pretend they're not happening. 34 00:01:53,088 --> 00:01:56,072 If we do that, we're unable to take the information 35 00:01:56,072 --> 00:01:58,173 that comes from mistakes, 36 00:01:58,173 --> 00:01:59,759 and we're able to take this information 37 00:01:59,759 --> 00:02:03,294 and use it well on our path to success. 38 00:02:03,294 --> 00:02:06,454 Basically, I'm gonna give you this very simple quotation 39 00:02:06,454 --> 00:02:08,590 from Aldous Huxley, I like it very much. 40 00:02:08,590 --> 00:02:11,106 "Experience is not what happens to you. 41 00:02:11,106 --> 00:02:14,350 It is what you do with what happens to you." 42 00:02:14,350 --> 00:02:19,001 In other words, we need to use what happens, and apply what happens, 43 00:02:19,001 --> 00:02:21,219 rather than pretending something 44 00:02:21,219 --> 00:02:23,891 that goes wrong hasn't happened. 45 00:02:23,891 --> 00:02:27,246 And i'd like to begin by showing you that this already exists 46 00:02:27,246 --> 00:02:32,440 by taking a particular industry that is failure obsessive. 47 00:02:32,452 --> 00:02:35,100 Everything it does is linked to failure, 48 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:37,250 and so it's part of it's culture. 49 00:02:37,250 --> 00:02:43,000 Why? Well, because if it doesn't manage the small mistakes 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,595 then unfortunately, the result is very strong. 51 00:02:48,595 --> 00:02:50,393 It's the nuclear industry. 52 00:02:50,393 --> 00:02:52,531 They have the safest safety record 53 00:02:52,531 --> 00:02:54,724 of any industry and just as well 54 00:02:54,724 --> 00:02:57,973 because if they make a big mistake, a disaster 55 00:02:57,973 --> 00:03:00,844 then many people are killed across continents, 56 00:03:00,844 --> 00:03:03,951 and also it's a long term disaster. 57 00:03:03,951 --> 00:03:05,493 So what have they done? 58 00:03:05,493 --> 00:03:08,395 They got obsessive about mistakes. 59 00:03:08,395 --> 00:03:11,445 They've started to understand that using mistakes in order 60 00:03:11,445 --> 00:03:17,449 to stop disasters is the only way to keep safety an absolute premium. 61 00:03:17,449 --> 00:03:19,567 I'll just show you, just very briefly, 62 00:03:19,567 --> 00:03:24,382 four main summaries that they've come up with. 63 00:03:24,382 --> 00:03:30,160 First one, everyone, is responsible for the mistakes. 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,650 Everyone is responsible as they're part of the process. 65 00:03:33,650 --> 00:03:36,606 Now, once you've understood that everyone's responsible, 66 00:03:36,606 --> 00:03:39,807 then it gets easier to create an open environment, 67 00:03:39,807 --> 00:03:41,766 where people are communicating openly 68 00:03:41,766 --> 00:03:46,555 about what's gone right, and what's gone wrong as well. 69 00:03:46,555 --> 00:03:50,352 That takes us on to the third idea, and the third idea is questioning. 70 00:03:50,352 --> 00:03:53,683 It doesn't matter who tells you to do something. 71 00:03:53,683 --> 00:03:58,314 It doesn't matter how often the process has been followed. 72 00:03:58,324 --> 00:04:01,553 You can always question that person. 73 00:04:01,553 --> 00:04:05,498 If the idea is to try and understand and keep safety high. 74 00:04:05,498 --> 00:04:08,555 And finally, everything that comes out, 75 00:04:08,555 --> 00:04:12,042 especially the mistakes are shared. 76 00:04:12,042 --> 00:04:13,688 You can notice that this is from 77 00:04:13,688 --> 00:04:16,265 the Institute of Nuclear Power Operations. 78 00:04:16,265 --> 00:04:17,135 What does that mean? 79 00:04:17,135 --> 00:04:20,767 It's a sector-wide idea. 80 00:04:20,767 --> 00:04:24,356 In other words, we don't keep our information to ourselves. 81 00:04:24,356 --> 00:04:28,121 We share it amongst everyone, all the competitors. 82 00:04:28,121 --> 00:04:29,794 Now that's pretty interesting. 83 00:04:29,794 --> 00:04:32,876 But where's the link between mistakes and disasters? 84 00:04:32,876 --> 00:04:35,539 Well, to do that, I'm going to show you this. 85 00:04:35,553 --> 00:04:37,128 This is the accident pyramid, 86 00:04:37,128 --> 00:04:41,251 it comes from a very different sector, the insurance sector. 87 00:04:41,251 --> 00:04:45,834 The insurance sector basically it's based on failure. 88 00:04:45,834 --> 00:04:48,589 It has business from failure. 89 00:04:48,589 --> 00:04:52,033 This pyramid behind me, it's about a 100 years old. 90 00:04:52,033 --> 00:04:55,644 They've updated [it]. What you see, on the screen behind me 91 00:04:55,644 --> 00:04:58,616 is 2003 figures, something like that. 92 00:04:58,616 --> 00:05:01,188 What's important is not the exact figure, 93 00:05:01,188 --> 00:05:03,237 what's important is the relationship. 94 00:05:03,237 --> 00:05:05,501 We'll begin with the yellow pieces, okay? 95 00:05:05,501 --> 00:05:07,126 We'll start with first aid. 96 00:05:07,126 --> 00:05:08,547 What does first aid mean? 97 00:05:08,547 --> 00:05:10,480 It means that, according to this, 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:16,787 300 examples of people going to get bandages, medicine -- 99 00:05:16,787 --> 00:05:18,297 In other words, they've cut their finger, 100 00:05:18,297 --> 00:05:20,770 they're not feeling well, from the company, okay? 101 00:05:20,770 --> 00:05:27,368 So the company administers medicines, and so on to help people. 102 00:05:27,381 --> 00:05:30,461 Next one up, 30 - severe accidents. 103 00:05:30,461 --> 00:05:33,015 How do companies see severe accidents? 104 00:05:33,015 --> 00:05:35,251 Well, usually it means that you've spent 105 00:05:35,251 --> 00:05:38,354 at least 1 day away from work. 106 00:05:38,354 --> 00:05:41,686 But, you can imagine, that's a wide range of accidents. 107 00:05:41,686 --> 00:05:43,239 So it could be breaking your leg, 108 00:05:43,239 --> 00:05:45,835 it could be a serious illness, and so on. 109 00:05:45,835 --> 00:05:48,943 And unfortunately, 1 at the top, is fatality, 110 00:05:48,956 --> 00:05:51,739 and fatality means fatality. 111 00:05:51,739 --> 00:05:54,751 Now why all of this, and why in yellow? 112 00:05:54,751 --> 00:05:58,083 Well, yellow represents the reported incidents. 113 00:05:58,083 --> 00:06:01,657 In other words, companies looking at the number of accidents. 114 00:06:01,657 --> 00:06:04,291 They're trying to understand, how can we bring that down? 115 00:06:04,291 --> 00:06:06,006 How's it possible to bring that down? 116 00:06:06,006 --> 00:06:10,004 Especially, the severe accidents, and fatalities. 117 00:06:10,004 --> 00:06:13,640 We can have processes, we can have rules. 118 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,568 But how can we really bring it down? 119 00:06:15,568 --> 00:06:17,100 How we can make a difference? 120 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:19,823 And the answer is: the big numbers at the bottom. 121 00:06:19,823 --> 00:06:21,340 So let's have a look. 122 00:06:21,340 --> 00:06:24,713 We'll begin with the biggest number, 300,000. 123 00:06:24,713 --> 00:06:26,580 those are risky behaviors, 124 00:06:26,580 --> 00:06:29,049 in other words, doing something -- 125 00:06:29,049 --> 00:06:31,256 when you shouldn't really be doing it. 126 00:06:31,256 --> 00:06:33,455 So you're tired, you're stressed out, 127 00:06:33,455 --> 00:06:35,929 you're not concentrated. 128 00:06:35,929 --> 00:06:37,420 And the next one up, 3,000. 129 00:06:37,420 --> 00:06:39,911 Well, that's near misses, in other words, 130 00:06:39,911 --> 00:06:43,645 a chain of risky behaviors, 1, 2, 3, 4. 131 00:06:43,645 --> 00:06:46,618 That would be a disaster unless it were for luck. 132 00:06:46,618 --> 00:06:49,570 So we were lucky not to have a disaster. 133 00:06:49,570 --> 00:06:51,494 Okay, so that's the idea! 134 00:06:51,494 --> 00:06:55,926 And the basic idea is if we can manage the 3,000 and the 300,000, 135 00:06:55,926 --> 00:07:01,047 we can reduce the really tough things in the yellow. 136 00:07:01,047 --> 00:07:04,287 That's the idea, but, and here's the big but. 137 00:07:04,287 --> 00:07:06,429 In order to be able to manage 138 00:07:06,429 --> 00:07:10,134 the big numbers at the bottom, we need people to tell us. 139 00:07:10,134 --> 00:07:12,737 Because in the white it's the not reported. 140 00:07:12,753 --> 00:07:16,013 It's people keeping mistakes to themselves. 141 00:07:16,013 --> 00:07:17,955 Now I thought, okay, that's interesting! 142 00:07:17,955 --> 00:07:19,032 That's about industries! 143 00:07:19,032 --> 00:07:22,786 But can we apply this to everything, to life? 144 00:07:23,694 --> 00:07:25,588 And it turns out, we can! 145 00:07:25,588 --> 00:07:28,595 We can apply this accident pyramid to anything. 146 00:07:28,595 --> 00:07:33,179 So I decided to apply it to something a disaster I brought for you, 147 00:07:33,179 --> 00:07:35,080 which is my marriage, okay? 148 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,616 Now, before we have a look at my marriage, 149 00:07:38,616 --> 00:07:40,069 in terms of the accident pyramid, 150 00:07:40,069 --> 00:07:43,088 I'm just gonna ask, is anyone else in the audience, 151 00:07:43,088 --> 00:07:46,007 have you ever finished a long term relationship? 152 00:07:46,007 --> 00:07:48,708 If you have, just put your hand in the air, just so I understand. 153 00:07:48,708 --> 00:07:51,474 Fantastic! Oh, just people in the front apparently, not in the back. 154 00:07:51,474 --> 00:07:53,034 Okay, good! 155 00:07:53,034 --> 00:07:56,922 So if you have ever finished a long term relationship, 156 00:07:56,922 --> 00:07:59,003 you can play along with me, okay? 157 00:07:59,003 --> 00:08:02,005 The others, you're just gonna have to imagine. 158 00:08:02,005 --> 00:08:03,212 So, let's begin. 159 00:08:03,212 --> 00:08:05,227 My personal accident pyramid. 160 00:08:05,227 --> 00:08:07,948 Risky behaviors, 300,000. 161 00:08:07,948 --> 00:08:09,220 Wow, that's a lot. 162 00:08:09,220 --> 00:08:14,585 Examples, well, it could be drinking the beer directly out of the bottle. 163 00:08:14,585 --> 00:08:19,299 It could be forgetting my mother-in-law's birthday. 164 00:08:19,299 --> 00:08:23,249 It could be paying electricity bill late, so I have to pay extra. 165 00:08:23,249 --> 00:08:24,936 Something like that, okay? 166 00:08:24,936 --> 00:08:26,484 Fine, next one up. 167 00:08:26,484 --> 00:08:29,944 Near misses, well that's a chain of risky behaviors, 168 00:08:29,944 --> 00:08:32,775 where basically, there would be a big argument 169 00:08:32,775 --> 00:08:36,934 if it were not for the situation so maybe my wife and myself, 170 00:08:36,956 --> 00:08:40,740 we find ourselves in a public place, in a theater, so we can't argue. 171 00:08:40,740 --> 00:08:43,770 We're in front of my parents. That's basic idea. 172 00:08:43,770 --> 00:08:44,626 Let's go up to 300. 173 00:08:44,626 --> 00:08:47,315 Oh well, that's when there's screaming arguments, okay? 174 00:08:47,315 --> 00:08:50,805 So that's when there's a difference of opinion. 175 00:08:50,805 --> 00:08:53,088 I think is what I'd say. 176 00:08:53,088 --> 00:08:54,418 We go up to 30. 177 00:08:54,418 --> 00:08:56,858 30 I put out as walking out of the house, 178 00:08:56,858 --> 00:09:01,585 but you can also include, if you wish, slamming doors, and so on. 179 00:09:01,585 --> 00:09:04,178 And finally, number 1. That's a letter from her lawyer 180 00:09:04,178 --> 00:09:06,911 saying I want a separation, okay? 181 00:09:06,911 --> 00:09:10,702 So, I thought, well -- 182 00:09:10,702 --> 00:09:12,702 How did that happen there? 183 00:09:12,702 --> 00:09:16,002 I mean we didn't get married for us to get divorced, right? 184 00:09:16,002 --> 00:09:17,709 So how did that happen? 185 00:09:17,709 --> 00:09:20,498 And it turns out that the best way for me 186 00:09:20,498 --> 00:09:26,345 to have managed this disaster is exactly the same ideas 187 00:09:26,345 --> 00:09:28,671 that the nuclear industry had. 188 00:09:28,671 --> 00:09:30,163 That's amazing! 189 00:09:30,163 --> 00:09:34,095 Everyone in the relationship is responsible for the process. 190 00:09:34,095 --> 00:09:37,297 Openness means open communication, 191 00:09:37,297 --> 00:09:39,611 and so giving feedback, 192 00:09:39,611 --> 00:09:42,800 questioning whatever it is is useful, 193 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,480 and finally constant learning 194 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,695 in order to help yourself get to, 195 00:09:46,695 --> 00:09:49,512 in this case, a successful situation. 196 00:09:49,512 --> 00:09:53,965 So, if it's so obvious, why don't we do it? 197 00:09:53,965 --> 00:09:58,063 Well, David Ledbetter spoke about you are what you share. 198 00:09:58,063 --> 00:10:00,317 And an interconnected world, 199 00:10:00,317 --> 00:10:02,587 there is so much potential for sharing. 200 00:10:02,587 --> 00:10:06,527 But we're afraid of sharing information. 201 00:10:06,532 --> 00:10:08,871 We're afraid either in relationships, 202 00:10:08,871 --> 00:10:11,389 or in a much bigger situation, 203 00:10:11,389 --> 00:10:13,495 in organizations as well. 204 00:10:13,495 --> 00:10:14,358 Why is that happening? 205 00:10:14,358 --> 00:10:19,110 Well, I'm going to suggest that it's a question of timing. 206 00:10:19,130 --> 00:10:24,961 There's a basic idea that short term is ever more important. 207 00:10:25,531 --> 00:10:28,194 In other words, you're looking just at the next quarter. 208 00:10:28,194 --> 00:10:29,551 What's happening at the next quarter 209 00:10:29,551 --> 00:10:31,727 we're not looking ahead enough. 210 00:10:31,727 --> 00:10:36,510 And short-termism has permeated society. 211 00:10:36,510 --> 00:10:37,852 But this is a problem, 212 00:10:37,852 --> 00:10:39,569 Because basically, at this point, 213 00:10:39,569 --> 00:10:42,116 where's the innovation coming from? 214 00:10:42,116 --> 00:10:44,771 Where's the learning coming from? 215 00:10:44,771 --> 00:10:47,873 Where's showing initiative coming from? 216 00:10:47,873 --> 00:10:50,773 Basically, ladies and gentlemen, very often it seems 217 00:10:50,773 --> 00:10:54,622 that we're paid to not make mistakes. 218 00:10:54,622 --> 00:10:57,714 But you know, if you are paid to not make mistakes 219 00:10:57,714 --> 00:10:59,963 then how are we gonna go forward? 220 00:10:59,963 --> 00:11:02,134 How's that possible? 221 00:11:02,134 --> 00:11:04,537 And a correlation to not making mistakes, 222 00:11:04,537 --> 00:11:08,891 ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately, is the blame culture. 223 00:11:08,891 --> 00:11:13,028 The blame culture when there is a mistake is this finger pointing. 224 00:11:13,028 --> 00:11:14,744 It's your fault. 225 00:11:14,744 --> 00:11:16,974 And so what we can do is we can 226 00:11:16,974 --> 00:11:19,058 put the responsibility on to a person. 227 00:11:19,058 --> 00:11:22,870 We can attribute the problems to a person. 228 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:25,471 But does that mean the problems have gone away? 229 00:11:25,471 --> 00:11:28,086 Probably not, probably not. 230 00:11:30,410 --> 00:11:32,732 What all of this has caused, ladies and gentlemen, 231 00:11:32,732 --> 00:11:35,850 is if I make a mistake, it's probably best to me 232 00:11:35,850 --> 00:11:39,129 to shut up, to keep quiet, 233 00:11:39,129 --> 00:11:42,088 and this creates cover ups. 234 00:11:42,088 --> 00:11:43,316 And what the cover ups do? 235 00:11:43,316 --> 00:11:48,161 Well, cover ups create the potential for systemic disasters. 236 00:11:48,161 --> 00:11:50,682 That's the fatality at the top. 237 00:11:50,682 --> 00:11:52,862 I'll give you some examples. 238 00:11:52,862 --> 00:11:57,236 1986, this is a technological disaster. 239 00:11:57,236 --> 00:12:01,197 Space shuttle Challenger disaster. 240 00:12:01,197 --> 00:12:05,693 Logistics, how about the Denver international airport 241 00:12:05,693 --> 00:12:09,735 automatic baggage handling system. 242 00:12:09,735 --> 00:12:14,268 It went more than half a million dollars over budget. 243 00:12:14,268 --> 00:12:18,238 It failed to deliver for 10 years, and finally, it was stopped. 244 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:21,112 A little bit more recent the environmental disaster 245 00:12:21,112 --> 00:12:24,620 that came out of the deep water horizon. 246 00:12:24,620 --> 00:12:26,612 All of these are systemic disasters 247 00:12:26,612 --> 00:12:29,228 but maybe the biggest one, 248 00:12:29,228 --> 00:12:30,685 is something we're living through right now, 249 00:12:30,685 --> 00:12:32,728 which is the financial crack. 250 00:12:32,728 --> 00:12:34,147 What you can see behind me, 251 00:12:34,147 --> 00:12:38,126 is the Economist front cover. 252 00:12:38,126 --> 00:12:42,082 But my question to you is: which year do you think this is? 253 00:12:42,082 --> 00:12:44,290 2008? 2010? 254 00:12:45,721 --> 00:12:50,072 No, actually, unfortunately, it's November 1997. 255 00:12:50,072 --> 00:12:53,356 You see, we're not very good at learning from failures. 256 00:12:53,362 --> 00:12:57,387 We tend to sort of forget them, ignore them. 257 00:12:57,387 --> 00:13:00,427 Let me try and put everything together, in synthesis. 258 00:13:00,441 --> 00:13:04,938 Well, in a perfect world, everything would be right, 259 00:13:04,938 --> 00:13:07,597 and we'd understand, and that would be wonderful. 260 00:13:07,607 --> 00:13:10,229 But we don't live in a perfect world! 261 00:13:10,229 --> 00:13:12,378 Let's take the opposite. 262 00:13:12,378 --> 00:13:16,579 I do something, it doesn't go right, and I don't understand why. 263 00:13:16,579 --> 00:13:19,358 And probably, I don't want to understand why, 264 00:13:19,358 --> 00:13:23,698 because failing is bad. So I'll just forget it! 265 00:13:23,698 --> 00:13:29,692 Short term pressure makes us feel 266 00:13:29,692 --> 00:13:33,002 that what's come up now is the answer. 267 00:13:33,002 --> 00:13:37,104 In other words, you're successful, but it's not important 268 00:13:37,104 --> 00:13:39,892 how or why you were successful. 269 00:13:39,892 --> 00:13:43,755 And very often, short-termism means you were lucky. 270 00:13:45,017 --> 00:13:47,341 Well, that's good for the immediate result. 271 00:13:47,341 --> 00:13:49,061 But there's a problem. And the problem is -- 272 00:13:49,061 --> 00:13:52,624 you don't know how to repeat it, and probably what we're doing is, 273 00:13:52,628 --> 00:13:55,630 we're sewing the seeds to an eventual disaster. 274 00:13:55,630 --> 00:13:57,844 So what I'm going to suggest this afternoon 275 00:13:57,844 --> 00:14:02,321 is why not think about short term mistakes 276 00:14:02,330 --> 00:14:04,384 being an important part of learning 277 00:14:04,384 --> 00:14:06,385 to get to the overall goal? 278 00:14:06,385 --> 00:14:09,679 In other words, shifting, moving from this idea 279 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,161 of successful - unsuccessful, 280 00:14:12,161 --> 00:14:17,004 to why we are successful or unsuccessful. 281 00:14:17,004 --> 00:14:18,354 That's the basic idea. 282 00:14:18,354 --> 00:14:19,918 So, let me put it all together. 283 00:14:19,918 --> 00:14:22,887 What have I learned from failure? 284 00:14:22,887 --> 00:14:24,071 I've learned these things here. 285 00:14:24,071 --> 00:14:27,586 First, failing well means learning, 286 00:14:27,586 --> 00:14:30,638 especially the difficult feedback. 287 00:14:30,638 --> 00:14:33,439 In fact if you can take something from the difficult feedback, 288 00:14:33,458 --> 00:14:36,240 that's usually the most important information. 289 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,477 Second one, if you're too short term 290 00:14:38,477 --> 00:14:40,069 about how you see things, 291 00:14:40,069 --> 00:14:43,467 you're probably creating, without knowing it, 292 00:14:43,467 --> 00:14:46,547 the basis for a long term disaster. 293 00:14:46,547 --> 00:14:49,670 Third, accountability doesn't mean punishing people, 294 00:14:49,670 --> 00:14:53,747 it menas understanding you're part of the process. 295 00:14:53,747 --> 00:14:57,846 And finally, if we can create a no blame culture, 296 00:14:57,846 --> 00:15:02,284 basically, we automatically have more openness. 297 00:15:02,284 --> 00:15:04,705 So there's much more information that comes out. 298 00:15:04,705 --> 00:15:07,083 Now, I can't do this by myself. 299 00:15:07,083 --> 00:15:11,799 I can't create a failing well culture by myslef. 300 00:15:11,814 --> 00:15:13,362 So, I need some activists. 301 00:15:13,362 --> 00:15:16,361 And I thought I'd start with 600 people today, okay? 302 00:15:16,363 --> 00:15:18,088 So I know you're busy today. 303 00:15:18,088 --> 00:15:21,102 So, as of tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen, 304 00:15:21,102 --> 00:15:23,791 let's all start failing well. 305 00:15:23,791 --> 00:15:24,677 Thank you very much! 306 00:15:24,677 --> 00:15:27,482 (Applause) 307 00:15:31,144 --> 00:15:32,990 Host: Now, Tim, I have one question. 308 00:15:32,990 --> 00:15:35,776 We're in European, Western society 309 00:15:35,776 --> 00:15:38,594 and most of your examples, nuclear and so on, 310 00:15:38,594 --> 00:15:41,714 were from this society, this culture. 311 00:15:41,714 --> 00:15:44,201 Do these messages apply across cultures? 312 00:15:44,201 --> 00:15:46,482 TB: Yes, it's a very good question! 313 00:15:46,482 --> 00:15:48,248 In terms of short-termism. 314 00:15:48,248 --> 00:15:50,431 So this idea of just looking at the next quarter, 315 00:15:50,431 --> 00:15:53,688 that's very much an idea of the western world. 316 00:15:53,688 --> 00:15:57,308 But the idea of cover ups, is world-wide. 317 00:15:57,314 --> 00:16:00,659 It links to how much information 318 00:16:00,659 --> 00:16:03,840 is power if you retain it or you share it. 319 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,318 But let's say what's underlying everything. 320 00:16:06,318 --> 00:16:07,716 So in other words, what goes across cultures, 321 00:16:07,716 --> 00:16:10,089 is the idea of embarrassment and shame, 322 00:16:10,089 --> 00:16:12,007 which changes from culture to culture. 323 00:16:12,007 --> 00:16:13,812 So, in the eastern cultures, 324 00:16:13,812 --> 00:16:17,675 shame would be looking bad in front of the group 325 00:16:17,675 --> 00:16:19,938 whilst generally in the west -- 326 00:16:19,938 --> 00:16:21,470 It's shame feeling. 327 00:16:21,470 --> 00:16:23,722 I'm unable to do something - the individual, 328 00:16:23,722 --> 00:16:25,580 So yes, the basic idea. 329 00:16:25,580 --> 00:16:27,721 But how we would change that 330 00:16:27,721 --> 00:16:29,925 that's gonna change from culture to culture. 331 00:16:29,925 --> 00:16:31,981 Host: Okay, thank you very much! Tim Baxter. 332 00:16:31,981 --> 00:16:34,700 (Applause)