0:00:00.000,0:00:04.000 Good afternoon my name is Dr Ubergi I'm[br]the coordinator of the graduate programs 0:00:04.000,0:00:08.000 Here and counsel in psychology and [br]psychotherapy 0:00:08.000,0:00:13.870 I want to welcome everyone, specifically[br]our guest Dr. Lance McWilliams[br] 0:00:13.870,0:00:19.370 who is here for the third time,[br]and Dr Kernberg that we have the great 0:00:19.370,0:00:22.020 honor of hosting here at the college. 0:00:22.020,0:00:24.350 I have to say that I'm actually personally 0:00:24.350,0:00:26.870 moved because, as a graduate student in [br]New York 0:00:26.870,0:00:30.990 I felt very proud I had the chance to see[br]one of your lectures. 0:00:30.990,0:00:33.140 And I never thought that [br]I would get the chance again 0:00:33.140,0:00:34.920 so, [laughs] I have been[br]very honored to have that 0:00:34.920,0:00:37.170 privilege for a second time. 0:00:37.170,0:00:44.010 I want to invite the provost to the podium[br]so that he can introduce our guests. 0:00:44.010,0:00:46.400 Thank you, everyone for coming [br]and enjoy the lecture 0:00:46.400,0:00:52.130 [applause] 0:00:53.595,0:00:57.215 Wow, this is a wonderful crowd. 0:00:57.215,0:01:01.965 Welcome, to the American College of Greece[br]Delighted to see you all. 0:01:01.965,0:01:06.965 I want to welcome you on my behalf [br]as well as our president who could not 0:01:06.965,0:01:10.465 be here today due to an emergency[br]meeting. 0:01:10.465,0:01:13.905 It's always nice to have people [br]on this campus 0:01:13.905,0:01:16.805 besides, of course, our students who are here and 0:01:16.805,0:01:19.735 always here and [...] here night and day I think 0:01:19.735,0:01:22.485 But we're here to uh to partake in this important 0:01:22.485,0:01:25.205 event because we have two distinguished people 0:01:25.205,0:01:29.495 visiting us. Of course, uh, Lance McWilliams is here 0:01:29.495,0:01:33.005 for the third time and we're delighted to have you, 0:01:33.005,0:01:36.275 thank you. And of course Otto Kernberg 0:01:36.275,0:01:40.275 Who is, of course an scholar in the field. 0:01:40.275,0:01:46.185 As I was looking at the some of his background I-I noticed that we had something 0:01:46.185,0:01:50.475 in common. Uh, which is that we spent, not at the 0:01:50.475,0:01:52.495 same time, but at different times 0:01:52.495,0:01:53.865 a number of years ago 0:01:53.865,0:01:55.515 Topeka, Kansas, both of us 0:01:55.515,0:01:59.155 Uh, and I had actually visited 0:01:59.155,0:02:01.285 the, uh, medical clinic 0:02:01.285,0:02:04.325 because I had two friends 0:02:04.325,0:02:06.985 good friends, who actually were doctors there 0:02:06.985,0:02:09.265 and they were a bad influence on me 0:02:09.265,0:02:12.465 because they, uh, told me how to smoke cigars. 0:02:12.465,0:02:14.525 Anyway. Uh, 0:02:15.115,0:02:21.635 This is one of the important reasons why educational institutions exist 0:02:21.635,0:02:24.285 , to add to the body of knowledge and to share 0:02:24.285,0:02:30.645 knowledge. That's what we're doing this next two days tonight, next two days. 0:02:30.645,0:02:34.495 Uh, you probably know much 0:02:34.495,0:02:40.935 about Professor Kernberg but, uh, I should tell you that he's the 0:02:40.935,0:02:43.645 director of personality disorders institute 0:02:43.645,0:02:46.705 at the New York Presbyterian hospital 0:02:46.705,0:02:51.185 Of course Professor Meritas, of psychiatry at Yale Medical College 0:02:51.185,0:02:55.335 Cornell. And, you know I can go on and on. 0:02:55.335,0:02:58.125 You are here because you know all of that 0:02:58.125,0:02:59.675 We're delighted to have you. 0:02:59.675,0:03:03.165 Uh, next McWilliams teaches at Rutgers University 0:03:03.165,0:03:06.495 graduate school of professional psychology 0:03:06.495,0:03:10.495 and has of course a practice as well in New Jersey 0:03:10.495,0:03:13.885 as he told me he's originally Massachusetts, 0:03:13.885,0:03:18.635 as is also renowned author and scholar. 0:03:18.635,0:03:22.635 We're delighted to have you to come up and 0:03:22.635,0:03:29.155 speak and introduce our honored guest. Welcome, thank you. 0:03:29.155,0:03:34.275 [applause] 0:03:40.826,0:03:43.806 Hello..[different language] 0:03:43.806,0:03:50.386 Thank you. Um, I see many familiar faces and it's 0:03:50.386,0:03:53.246 wonderful to be back 0:03:53.246,0:03:55.046 Uh, here's the plan for tonight 0:03:55.046,0:03:58.886 I'm going to say a few words about Dr. Kernberg. Uh, he is going 0:03:58.886,0:04:02.506 to talk for about an hour, uh, then we will 0:04:02.506,0:04:04.736 open it up for discussion. I find that I 0:04:04.736,0:04:08.736 often learn more when I'm engaged with 0:04:08.736,0:04:12.736 dialogue and that's often true with Dr. Kernberg. I've 0:04:12.736,0:04:15.766 learned more from him when he has an opportunity 0:04:15.766,0:04:18.106 to respond to questions and comments. 0:04:18.443,0:04:23.432 Uh, what I want to say about him is that he is 0:04:23.432,0:04:27.612 a great integrator, this probably has something to do 0:04:27.612,0:04:30.742 with the fact that he was both European 0:04:30.742,0:04:34.552 or all three, European, South American, and North 0:04:34.552,0:04:37.992 American. He's got very wide interests 0:04:37.992,0:04:41.992 in the science and the social sciences and especially 0:04:41.992,0:04:46.272 the arts. Um, many of you know his writings 0:04:46.272,0:04:48.762 but perhaps you don't know as much about 0:04:48.762,0:04:51.882 his longstanding interest in supervising 0:04:51.882,0:04:57.532 and engaging with creative others, whether students or colleagues. 0:04:57.532,0:05:02.012 He's been tireless politically in challenging 0:05:02.012,0:05:04.492 training procedures that deaden therapists' 0:05:04.492,0:05:08.152 natural vitality and subdue their 0:05:08.152,0:05:11.542 curiosity, and their creativity. 0:05:11.542,0:05:13.552 He enjoys differences of opinion, 0:05:13.552,0:05:15.612 and never takes them personally. 0:05:16.227,0:05:18.437 And, he never loses the differentiation 0:05:18.437,0:05:21.627 between ideas that he may not like 0:05:21.627,0:05:25.317 and thinkers that he may like very much as people. 0:05:25.317,0:05:31.327 So he's a very easy person to have an interesting argument with. 0:05:31.327,0:05:35.607 I won't go on too long because I'm going to start embarrassing him, but one 0:05:35.607,0:05:38.007 thing I do want to say is that is that unlike 0:05:38.007,0:05:40.047 many important theorists, 0:05:40.047,0:05:44.047 he is allergic to being idealized. 0:05:44.047,0:05:49.717 Uh, my personal debt to him though is very great, and I just wanted 0:05:49.717,0:05:52.097 to take this opportunity to say something 0:05:52.097,0:05:55.757 about that. When I got the idea to write the diagnosis 0:05:55.757,0:05:57.857 that I know many of you have read 0:05:57.857,0:06:03.707 I was an unknown in the field and I went to him and he gave me 0:06:03.707,0:06:06.027 of his time, he shared his lunch with me, 0:06:06.027,0:06:10.367 and he encouraged me to write that book. 0:06:10.367,0:06:13.507 I don't know if you remember that meeting, but 0:06:13.507,0:06:15.457 it made a great deal of difference 0:06:15.457,0:06:19.987 to me, and he's done that with numerous people 0:06:19.987,0:06:22.187 uh, throughout the field. 0:06:22.187,0:06:25.077 I also wanted to acknowledge his wife 0:06:25.077,0:06:28.337 Kay Heran and his longtime colleague 0:06:28.337,0:06:32.726 whom I've been pleased to know for more than 20 years. 0:06:32.726,0:06:38.436 So, having said all that, I will turn the program over to Dr. Kernberg 0:06:38.436,0:06:43.236 who's gonna be talking about components and functions 0:06:43.236,0:06:53.686 of a normal personality, the nature of personality disorders, their overall symptyomology and underlying structure, and the relationship between 0:06:53.686,0:06:57.686 neural-biological, interpsychic, and behavioral aspects 0:06:57.686,0:07:01.686 of normal and pathological personality organization. 0:07:01.686,0:07:11.416 [applause] 0:07:16.283,0:07:20.283 Thank you, Nancy, for your kind introduction 0:07:20.283,0:07:24.553 Uh, I'm impressed by the fact that I 0:07:24.553,0:07:27.143 imagine that everyone speaks english here 0:07:27.143,0:07:29.423 although that I assume that this college 0:07:29.423,0:07:31.323 can you hear me in the last row? 0:07:31.323,0:07:32.543 Yes? Okay. 0:07:32.543,0:07:36.543 Um, So I would like to 0:07:36.543,0:07:40.543 review with you the concept of personality- 0:07:40.565,0:07:43.605 personality disorder. 0:07:43.605,0:07:50.855 Um, it, um, it is a an actual issue, because, 0:07:50.855,0:07:55.865 there is so much confusion about it in the field. 0:07:55.865,0:07:59.865 There is so much controversy because different researchers 0:07:59.865,0:08:02.465 have studied different aspects of personality. 0:08:02.465,0:08:06.895 Both normal and abnormal. And each of them 0:08:06.895,0:08:10.545 classifies and organizes things according to his 0:08:10.545,0:08:15.845 own field. Um you have Cloniger who started 0:08:15.845,0:08:21.165 affect systems and um then, classifies personality 0:08:21.165,0:08:24.265 according to the predominant pathology 0:08:24.265,0:08:28.265 one of the major[....] that determine 0:08:28.265,0:08:32.265 major affect activation. 0:08:32.265,0:08:36.265 Uh, you have um, social physiologists 0:08:36.265,0:08:40.265 along with Benjamin who is interested in the 0:08:40.265,0:08:46.445 social [...] aspects of personality. 0:08:46.445,0:08:50.445 Organize into concepts of affiliative versus 0:08:50.445,0:09:00.835 aversive or hostile behavior. Dominants and submission 0:09:00.835,0:09:03.575 and that creates a structure of personality 0:09:03.575,0:09:07.575 builds on the inter-personal functions of it. 0:09:07.575,0:09:11.575 You have the psycho annalists who will use 0:09:11.575,0:09:15.575 classifications of the bases of prodominant 0:09:15.575,0:09:22.435 drive. The drive conflicts the oral, anal phallic 0:09:22.435,0:09:23.930 personality structure. 0:09:23.930,0:09:27.930 It's central. And then of course 0:09:27.930,0:09:33.210 the Epidemiologists, who study, um, large 0:09:33.210,0:09:38.850 groups of normal popluations. Make endless lists of 0:09:38.850,0:09:41.789 personality traits. About 150 and submit 0:09:41.789,0:09:44.539 thousands of individuals to them. And find out 0:09:44.539,0:09:48.959 which one by factor, by ethic status. 0:09:48.959,0:09:51.689 Group together and classify personality 0:09:51.689,0:09:54.639 according to the grouping of personality 0:09:54.639,0:09:59.429 traits of those tests. Of those instruments. 0:09:59.429,0:10:03.429 This leads to the 5 factor theory that I'm sure that everybody knows.