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Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.25,0:00:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,民主
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.96,0:00:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,活喺西方社會嘅我哋犯咗個好大嘅錯
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.19,0:00:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,就係視民主理所當然
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.25,0:00:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,雖然民主係一朵最脆弱嘅花
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.80,0:00:13.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但我哋冇將民主視為一朵最脆弱嘅花
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.99,0:00:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋反而視佢為社會嘅擺設品
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.78,0:00:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋往往覺得佢係必然嘅
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.68,0:00:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋以為資本主義會帶嚟民主
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.93,0:00:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但唔係
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.19,0:00:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,新加坡前總理李光耀\N同埋北京一班好似佢咁嘅人
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.61,0:00:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,說服到人
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.71,0:00:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,繁華嘅資本市場同顯著嘅增長
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.54,0:00:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,係絕對可以出現喺極權政體裏面
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.15,0:00:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,事實上，民主喺歐洲一帶倒退緊
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.08,0:00:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,今年初，我代表希臘
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.38,0:00:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,代表當時啱啱新選出嘅希臘政府
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.19,0:01:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,以財長身份出席歐元集團會議
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.87,0:01:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我被清楚告知
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.98,0:01:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,希臘嘅民主進程、我哋嘅選舉
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.25,0:01:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,唔可以干預
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.01,0:01:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,希臘即將被落實嘅經濟政策
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.05,0:01:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,當時我覺得李光耀或者中國共產黨
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.17,0:01:20.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,都唔會有更加好嘅辯護藉口
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.05,0:01:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而且有幾個固執嘅朋友不斷同我講
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.86,0:01:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,如果民主真係可以改變任何嘢
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.64,0:01:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,民主就會被打壓
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.64,0:01:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,今晚喺度，我想同你哋講
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.86,0:01:36.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,一個真正民主社會底下嘅經濟情況
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.47,0:01:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我想請大家同我一齊再次睇清楚
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.38,0:01:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,李光耀、中國共產黨同埋歐元集團
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.28,0:01:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,以為我哋可以分配民主
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.67,0:01:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但我哋真正要嘅
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.94,0:01:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,係一個真正、多人參與嘅民主
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.42,0:02:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,冇咗民主，我哋社會會唔掂
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.21,0:02:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,未來會暗淡，新科技亦都會浪費
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.10,0:02:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講起浪費
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.29,0:02:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,等我指出一個好有趣\N會要脅我哋經濟嘅悖論
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.14,0:02:15.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我叫佢做「雙峰悖論」
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.39,0:02:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,第一個峰你哋知道嘅
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.42,0:02:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,就係喺美國，歐洲，以至全球
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.15,0:02:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,債台高築構成長期陰霾
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.27,0:02:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋知道有好多債務
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.71,0:02:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但好少人意識到佢有個孖生兄弟
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.63,0:02:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,一座由有錢人同大機構嘅閑置資金\N砌出嚟嘅山峰
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.95,0:02:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,佢哋唔夠膽投資佢哋嘅存款\N去一啲製造營利嘅生產活動度
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.04,0:02:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢啲生產活動其實可以償還債務
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.10,0:02:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,仲可以製造人類急需要用嘅嘢
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.97,0:02:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,例如可再生能源
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.66,0:02:58.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,依家，我想講兩個數字
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.07,0:02:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,喺過去三個月入面
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.31,0:03:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋喺美國，英國同歐元區\N各種可以製造財富嘅商品
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.64,0:03:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,總共投資咗 3.4 萬億美元
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.45,0:03:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,好似有工廠、機械廠、寫字樓
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.68,0:03:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,學校、道路、鐵路、機械等
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.71,0:03:20.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,3.4 萬億美元聽落好似好多錢
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.66,0:03:24.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,直至你攞佢同 5.1 萬億美元比較
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.47,0:03:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢一筆 5.1 萬億嘅資金
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.09,0:03:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,喺同一批國家嘅金融機構裏面
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.10,0:03:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,除咗加劇股票市場通脹
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.94,0:03:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,令房價上升之外
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.44,0:03:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,喺同一期間就再冇發揮過任何作用
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.29,0:03:43.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,所以呢，一座債務嘅山\N同一座閑置現金嘅山
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.42,0:03:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,形成兩座山峰
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.20,0:03:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,兩者都冇通過正常市場運作抵消對方
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.08,0:03:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,結果造成薪酬停滯
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.36,0:03:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,喺美國，日本同歐洲
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.04,0:04:00.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,就有超過四分之一\N介乎 25 至 54 歲嘅人冇工做
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.51,0:04:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,跟住，經濟總需求就會\N進入永無止境嘅減退周期
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.16,0:04:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,令投資者對前景更悲觀
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.88,0:04:12.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,投資者怕咗低需求量\N於是唔再投資
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.67,0:04:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,就好似伊底帕斯王嘅老竇
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.36,0:04:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,被神預言佢個仔大個之後會殺死佢
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.44,0:04:20.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,佢好驚
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.47,0:04:22.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但佢亦無意中營造咗被殺嘅條件出嚟
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.100,0:04:26.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,令佢個仔伊底帕斯王真係殺咗佢
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.56,0:04:29.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢個就係我對資本主義嘅爭論
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.22,0:04:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,資本主義造成浪費
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.12,0:04:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,資本主義之下閑置嘅錢早就應該
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.53,0:04:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,用嚟提高人類生活水平、發展人才
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.38,0:04:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,同埋資助開發可再生能源科技
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.17,0:04:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢啲科技對保護地球好重要
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.28,0:04:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁民主可唔可以扭轉呢一切？
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.49,0:04:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我相信得
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.30,0:04:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但行動之前，我哋要知究竟咩係民主
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.53,0:04:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,亞里士多德定義民主做︰
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.77,0:05:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,當自由嘅人同窮人\N佔體制大多數控制政府
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.14,0:05:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,當然，雅典時代嘅民主\N將太多人排除在外
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.24,0:05:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,當中包括女人、移民、奴隸
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.92,0:05:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但係，如果因為呢啲被排除嘅人
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.07,0:05:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而忽視古雅典民主嘅成功之處
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.84,0:05:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁係錯嘅
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.68,0:05:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,雅典民主裏邊更值得肯定嘅係
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.77,0:05:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而且就算時至今日仍然值得肯定嘅係
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.77,0:05:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,佢囊括埋勞動階級
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.21,0:05:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,令佢哋唔單止有言論自由嘅權利
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.02,0:05:37.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,更重要、更重要嘅係\N佢哋有權批評政治
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.00,0:05:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而且佢哋嘅意見\N對國家決策係同等重要
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.08,0:05:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,古雅典民主持續咗唔係好耐
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.11,0:05:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,就好似一枝好光嘅蠟燭好快就燒完
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.38,0:05:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,的而且確
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.35,0:05:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,現今嘅自由民主唔係嚟自古雅典
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.02,0:06:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,佢哋源自 1688 年\N光榮革命時期嘅美國憲法
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.76,0:06:04.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,或者嚟自大憲章
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.00,0:06:09.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而雅典民主關注嘅係普通平民
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.85,0:06:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,授權予貧苦勞動階級
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.24,0:06:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋嘅自由民主\N建立喺大憲章嘅傳統上面
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.39,0:06:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但點都好，大憲章都係有錢人嘅憲章
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.52,0:06:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,當政治領域同經濟領域分開
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.78,0:06:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而民主進程受制於政治領域裏面時
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.71,0:06:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,經濟領域，或者商業世界
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.72,0:06:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,就會變成一個冇民主成份嘅地方
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.56,0:06:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁樣，自由民主先會出現
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.72,0:06:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋今時今日嘅民主\N將經濟由政治領域分出嚟
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.16,0:06:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢一切開始發生嘅時候\N
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.51,0:06:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,亦同時引發兩者之間\N無可避免嘅長期戰爭
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.82,0:06:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,經濟領域殖民統治政治領域
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.01,0:07:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,經濟領域將政治領域嘅權利吞噬
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.49,0:07:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你哋有冇諗過點解
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.56,0:07:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,宜家嘅政治家同以前嘅佢哋唔同？
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.56,0:07:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,唔係因為佢哋 DNA 變咗
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.95,0:07:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,（笑聲）
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.59,0:07:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而係因為依家\N喺政府做嘢嘅人已經冇權力
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.25,0:07:15.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,因為權力已經從政治領域轉移到
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.82,0:07:18.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,同政治領域無關嘅經濟領域
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.16,0:07:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講真，以上就係我憎資本主義嘅地方
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.09,0:07:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你諗下，好似一班肉食動物
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.12,0:07:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,殺死咗大量佢哋懶以生存嘅獵物
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.56,0:07:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,最後唯有自己挨餓
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.60,0:07:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,同樣道理
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.55,0:07:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,經濟領域殖民同吞食咗政治領域
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.58,0:07:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,喺呢種情況下佢其實削弱嘅係自己
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.99,0:07:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,令自己面臨經濟危機
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.79,0:07:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,企業勢力崛起緊，但政治勢力減緊
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.21,0:07:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,唔平等嘅問題加劇緊
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.11,0:07:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,總需求又下跌梗
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.64,0:08:00.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,企業總裁怕投資自己公司啲錢去第度
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.52,0:08:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,資本主義越係將人從民主裏面剔除
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.12,0:08:11.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,兩座負債同閑錢嘅山峰就會越嚟越高
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.41,0:08:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,人力資源同人類財富亦會越嚟越浪費
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.64,0:08:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,好明顯，如果咁樣嘅推測係啱嘅話
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.50,0:08:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋就必須要合返埋政治同經濟領域
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.57,0:08:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,最好可以畀人民控制大局
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.10,0:08:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,就好似古雅典一樣
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.53,0:08:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但奴隸、女人同移民唔包括在內
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.12,0:08:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢樣嘢並唔係咩新概念
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.82,0:08:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,馬克思主義者一百年前就有咁嘅諗法
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.63,0:08:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但佢哋嘅諗法唔係發展得好好
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.84,0:08:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋從蘇聯解體學到
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.24,0:08:48.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,只有奇蹟先可以\N令勞動階層重新獲得權力
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.53,0:08:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,就好似古代雅典冇帶嚟\N新形式嘅暴行同浪費咁
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.96,0:08:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但有一個解决辦法：消滅勞動階層
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.37,0:09:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,資本主義正係做緊呢樣嘢
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.81,0:09:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,佢通過自動程式、安卓系統、機械人
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.16,0:09:05.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,取代低薪嘅勞動力
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.08,0:09:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,問題係只要經濟同政治領域一直分離
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.06,0:09:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,自動化過程會令\N兩座負債同閑錢嘅山峰更加高
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.60,0:09:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,加劇浪費，同埋加深社會矛盾
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.40,0:09:25.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我相信中國呢類地方會好快發生咁嘅事
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.72,0:09:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,因此我哋要改造
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.10,0:09:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋要將經濟領域同政治領域拉返埋
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.74,0:09:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,方法就係將兩個領域民主化
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.18,0:09:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,以免我哋最終生活喺\N一個監控狂、超專制嘅制度下
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.91,0:09:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,如果唔係《駭客任務》電影\N就好容易變成紀錄片
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.96,0:09:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,（笑聲）
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.54,0:09:55.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,問題唔係資本主義可以承受\N自己帶嚟嘅科技創新
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.87,0:09:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,最令我感興趣嘅係
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.54,0:10:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,資本主義會唔會畀《駭客任務》\N入面嘅敵托邦取代
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.33,0:10:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,又或者好似《星際迷航》嘅社會取代
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.75,0:10:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,《星際迷航》裏面，機械服務人類
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.16,0:10:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而人類就擴張能量，探索星際
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.56,0:10:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,同埋喺一啲類似\N古雅典嘅高科技集會度
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.86,0:10:23.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,喋喋不休咁討論人生意義
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.36,0:10:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我覺得我哋可以樂觀啲睇
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.34,0:10:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但要擁有《星際迷航》嘅烏托邦\N或者《駭客任務》嘅敵托邦
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.84,0:10:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋要做啲咩呢？
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.35,0:10:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,等我略略講下幾個例子
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.03,0:10:47.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,企業層面上，你可以想像一個資金市場
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.25,0:10:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,喺嗰度，你只要工作就可以賺取資金
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.88,0:10:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,即使你轉工、轉公司
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.15,0:10:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你賺嘅資金都會跟住你
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.80,0:11:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而每間公司都係由嗰度做嘢嘅人持有
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.37,0:11:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,所有收入嚟自資本同利潤
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.14,0:11:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,僱傭概念最後會過時
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.45,0:11:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,唔會再有人擁有但冇為公司工作
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.39,0:11:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,或者冇擁有公司但為公司工作
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.40,0:11:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,唔會再有資本階級\N同勞動階級之間嘅鬥爭
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.28,0:11:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,投資、儲蓄之間再唔會有大嘅差距
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.60,0:11:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,亦再冇兩座高聳入雲嘅賃務同閑錢嘅山
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.63,0:11:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,至於全球政治型經濟層面
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.96,0:11:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,可以想像一下
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.90,0:11:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋國家貨幣同一個
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.21,0:11:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,由國際貨幣基金組織同 G20 峰會\N代表全人類發行嘅全球性數碼貨幣
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.69,0:11:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,有自由浮動匯率
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.63,0:12:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,再想像下
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.75,0:12:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,所有國際貿易都用呢隻貨幣進行
Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.20,0:12:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋就稱佢為「宇宙幣」
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.72,0:12:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,每個政府都會根據自己國家\N貿易逆差或者順差
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.37,0:12:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,向一個共同基金按比例投入宇宙幣
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.72,0:12:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,想像呢個基金用嚟投資\N全世界可再生能源科技
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.98,0:12:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,尤其投資到世界上資金唔到嘅地方
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.68,0:12:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢個唔係新構思
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.41,0:12:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,實際上，佢係由凱恩斯 1944 年
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.40,0:12:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,喺布列敦森林會議上提出嘅
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.08,0:12:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,問題係當時佢哋冇科技實現呢個理念
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.65,0:12:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但依家我哋有啦
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.79,0:12:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,尤其當政治同經濟領域重新走埋一齊
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.64,0:13:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我描述梗嘅呢個世界同時係自由嘅
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.60,0:13:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,佢將被賜權力嘅人\N同馬克思主義者擺喺首位
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.23,0:13:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,因為咁樣
Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.15,0:13:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,資本同勞動階層之間嘅分別\N同埋凱恩斯主義
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.03,0:13:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,會消失喺歷史長河裏面
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.32,0:13:19.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但總言之
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.81,0:13:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢個係一個我哋能夠\N想像到真正民主嘅世界
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.76,0:13:28.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁嘅世界會唔會出現呢？
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.39,0:13:32.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,或者我哋會淪落到好似\N《黑客帝國》咁嘅反烏德邦？
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.81,0:13:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,答案就喺我哋大家\N要做嘅政治決擇入面
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.72,0:13:39.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢個係我哋嘅選擇
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.23,0:13:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而我哋最好用民主方式決定
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.20,0:13:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,多謝
Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.22,0:13:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,（掌聲）
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.48,0:13:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持︰瓦魯法基斯⋯
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.88,0:13:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你喺自我介紹入面叫自己做\N自由派馬克思主義者
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.40,0:14:01.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁分析馬克思主義\N同現今世界有咩關係呢？
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.59,0:14:04.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講者：如果我投先講嘅内容\N有相關嘅地方
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.37,0:14:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁馬克思主義就係有參考價值
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.12,0:14:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,因為重新連起政治\N同經濟領域嘅重點係
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.09,0:14:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,如果我哋唔做
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.18,0:14:15.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁科技創新就會導致總需求大幅下跌
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.97,0:14:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,亦即係 Larry Summers \N所講嘅經濟長期停滯
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.67,0:14:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,隨住危機由世界某一度向外擴散
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.58,0:14:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,就好似而家咁
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.11,0:14:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,佢唔單止令我哋嘅民主制度唔穩定
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.84,0:14:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,仲會沖擊唔係特别歡迎\N自由民主嘅發展中國家
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.04,0:14:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,如果呢個論述成立嘅話\N咁馬克思主義絕對係相關嘅
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.92,0:14:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而哈耶克論述都係
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.72,0:14:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢樣就係點解我係\N自由派馬克思主義者
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.47,0:14:40.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,凱恩斯都係
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.61,0:14:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,所以我自己都係矇查查
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.71,0:14:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,（笑聲）
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.93,0:14:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持：確實係
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.76,0:14:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但可能我哋依家都係咁添
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.48,0:14:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,（笑聲）
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.84,0:14:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,（掌聲）
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.21,0:14:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講者︰如果你冇覺得困惑嘅話\N即係代表你冇喺度思考。得唔得？
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.22,0:14:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持︰真係好希臘哲學家嘅講法
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.84,0:14:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講者：應該係愛因斯坦至真
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.83,0:14:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持：你提到新加坡同中國
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.82,0:15:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,仲有琴晚喺演講嘉賓晚宴
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.40,0:15:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你對西方點樣看待中國一事上\N表達咗強烈嘅觀點
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.62,0:15:08.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你想唔想同我哋講下？
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.39,0:15:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講者：嗯，偽善嘅面孔有好多
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.40,0:15:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而喺我哋自由民主制度之下
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.83,0:15:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋有虛有其表嘅民主
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.72,0:15:17.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,因為正如我剛才所講
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.42,0:15:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋框死咗民主喺政治領域裏面
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.04,0:15:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,以致當去到經濟領域時
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.50,0:15:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,所有動作都係唔民主嘅
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.30,0:15:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,可以咁講
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.48,0:15:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,激進啲咁講
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.68,0:15:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,中國今時今日就好似 19 世紀嘅英國
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.19,0:15:37.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,因為記得當時
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.51,0:15:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋將自由主義同民主唥埋一齊
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.84,0:15:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但呢個係歷史上嘅錯誤
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.05,0:15:43.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,自由主義就好似 \NJohn Stuart Mill 所諗
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.89,0:15:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John Stuart Mill \N對民主進程特別懷疑
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.60,0:15:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,宜家你見到嘅中國\N同工業革命時期嘅英國—
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.98,0:15:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,尤其是由第一次到第二次\N工業革命過渡期嘅英國
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.28,0:16:00.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,有一個非常相似嘅過程
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.25,0:16:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,用西方社會 19 世紀\N做過嘅事嚟斥責中國
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.86,0:16:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,實在太虚偽啦
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.52,0:16:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持：我相信在座好多人都對你今年初
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.07,0:16:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,出任希臘財政部長嘅經歷好奇
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.84,0:16:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講者：我都知你會問呢個問題
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.56,0:16:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持：冇錯
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.36,0:16:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁六個月之後，你點睇頭半年嘅經歷？
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.87,0:16:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講者：就我個人嚟講，係非常興奮
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.85,0:16:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,亦非常失望
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.84,0:16:31.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,因為我哋有機會重振歐元區
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.69,0:16:33.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,不單只希臘，而係歐元區
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.81,0:16:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,令成個區走出自滿
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.50,0:16:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,同唔再拒絕承認…
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.54,0:16:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,宜家有一條結構性嘅裂痕\N横跨成個歐元區
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.42,0:16:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,威脅到歐盟發展
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.66,0:16:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋曾經喺希臘項目裏面\N有咁嘅機會做好去
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.92,0:16:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢個希臘項目係第一個計劃\N解决呢啲拒認嘅問題
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.85,0:17:00.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,不幸嘅係
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.13,0:17:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,歐元區嘅權勢
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.04,0:17:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,歐元集團嘅權勢
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.97,0:17:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,仍然選擇繼續否認問題存在
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.95,0:17:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但你知道有嘢會發生
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.25,0:17:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,蘇聯嘅經驗已經講咗畀我哋知
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.44,0:17:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,如果你想令根本生存唔到嘅經濟系统
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.52,0:17:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,通過政治意願或者\N威權主義嘅方式繼續生存
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.00,0:17:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你可能成功將佢延長壽命
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.75,0:17:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但係當改變來臨時
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.32,0:17:24.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,事情就會好突然，而且災難性
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.95,0:17:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持︰你希望見到咩變化？
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.90,0:17:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講者：嗯，無容置疑
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.16,0:17:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,如果我哋唔改變歐元區嘅架構
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.62,0:17:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,歐元區係唔會有將來
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.53,0:17:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持：當你做希臘財長嗰時
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.92,0:17:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你有冇做過錯誤嘅决定？
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.48,0:17:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講者：日日都有
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.98,0:17:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持：例如？\N講者：任何人面對過去…
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.65,0:17:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,（掌聲）
Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.13,0:17:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,唔係，認真咁講
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.52,0:17:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,如果有一位財政部長\N或者其他部長同你講
Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.08,0:17:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,佢哋工作咗六個月之後
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.32,0:17:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,尤其喺咁大壓力嘅情況底下\N佢哋冇做錯過事嘅話
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.26,0:17:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,呢種人其實好危險
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.21,0:17:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,當然，我有犯過錯
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.40,0:18:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我最大錯誤就係喺二月尾
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.36,0:18:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,簽咗申請延長債務協議嘅申請書
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.63,0:18:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,當時我以為債權方
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.71,0:18:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,真係有興趣去搵一個共同利益
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.17,0:18:12.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但事實唔係咁
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.27,0:18:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,佢哋嘅興趣係想打壓我哋嘅政府
Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.90,0:18:21.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,原因係佢哋唔想處理\N歐元區嗰條結構裂痕
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.65,0:18:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,同埋佢哋唔想承認
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.30,0:18:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,佢哋過去五年對希臘\N實施咗惡夢嘅計劃
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.79,0:18:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋喺失去咗三分一嘅名義 GDP
Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.06,0:18:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,情況比起大蕭條時更加差
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.96,0:18:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,喺嗰班實施呢啲政策嘅債權人之中
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.61,0:18:39.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,無人可以置身事外到去講\N「呢個係巨大嘅錯誤」
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.33,0:18:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持︰除咗上述\N除咗呢啲進取嘅言論
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.94,0:18:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你似乎都同意歐洲一體化
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.35,0:18:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講者：絕對係
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.41,0:18:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我之所以對歐盟同歐元區嘅批評
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.70,0:18:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,係因為我係一個歐洲人
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.68,0:18:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我最大嘅恐懼係\N歐元區無法生存落去
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.26,0:19:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,因為如果歐元區唔可以繼續走落去
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.68,0:19:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁離心力就會被解放出嚟
Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.55,0:19:05.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,就好似魔鬼咁解放
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.34,0:19:07.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,最終會摧毀整個歐盟
Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.27,0:19:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁嘅惡果唔只對歐洲\N對全球經濟都會產生嚴重影響
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.22,0:19:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我哋可能係世界上最大嘅經濟體
Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.56,0:19:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,如果我哋容許自己\N走返 30 年代嘅舊路
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.17,0:19:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,雖然我覺得\N我哋依家就行緊咁嘅路
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.86,0:19:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,咁對歐洲人嘅未來\N同埋歐洲以外嘅人嘅未來
Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.72,0:19:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,都係不利嘅
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.04,0:19:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主持：我哋真係好希望\N呢點上面你係錯嘅
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.13,0:19:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,瓦魯法基斯，多謝你嚟到 TED
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.74,0:19:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,講者：多謝
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.90,0:19:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,（掌聲）