WEBVTT 00:00:09.331 --> 00:00:12.048 I am Ricky Nierva and I am an artist. 00:00:12.048 --> 00:00:14.459 I am very very lucky to say that I am 00:00:14.459 --> 00:00:16.655 a production designer at Pixar Animation Studios, 00:00:16.655 --> 00:00:19.937 which is one of the best animation studios in the world. 00:00:20.675 --> 00:00:23.832 It is hard to believe, but I've been in the industry, 00:00:23.832 --> 00:00:26.606 animation industry, for almost 20 years now. 00:00:26.606 --> 00:00:30.140 And one thing that really terrifies me, 00:00:30.140 --> 00:00:31.981 other that being on the stage right now, 00:00:32.627 --> 00:00:34.602 is this. Right here. 00:00:35.355 --> 00:00:37.972 This blank sheet of paper. 00:00:37.990 --> 00:00:41.719 This is very very intimidating to an artist, I think. 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:45.968 Its emptiness could be very intimidating. 00:00:45.968 --> 00:00:48.247 There is so many opportunities, 00:00:48.247 --> 00:00:52.323 so many possibilities of what could be on this thing. 00:00:53.338 --> 00:00:55.367 You know, I have a little, a quick story 00:00:55.367 --> 00:01:00.334 about a theater and a director at a theater, 00:01:00.334 --> 00:01:04.490 where the director came to work, during rehearsals, 00:01:04.490 --> 00:01:07.098 the director opened the door to the theater NOTE Paragraph 00:01:07.098 --> 00:01:08.563 and noticed, on the stage, 00:01:08.563 --> 00:01:12.161 that the dancers were basically doing nothing. 00:01:12.161 --> 00:01:16.334 Some dancers were stretching, some dancers were, 00:01:16.334 --> 00:01:18.876 you know, reading a book or something, 00:01:18.876 --> 00:01:21.215 but they were basically doing nothing. 00:01:21.215 --> 00:01:23.283 And the director, bewildered, 00:01:23.283 --> 00:01:25.290 walked down to the front of the stage 00:01:25.290 --> 00:01:30.810 and he noticed the choreographer had his head in his hands 00:01:30.810 --> 00:01:33.917 and he looks at the choreographer and angrily says: 00:01:33.917 --> 00:01:35.702 "What 's going on here?" 00:01:35.702 --> 00:01:37.818 And the choreographer looks at the director and goes: 00:01:37.818 --> 00:01:44.540 "Nothing is happening. It's nothing, you know, it's just not working. Nothing." 00:01:44.540 --> 00:01:46.938 And the director looks at the choreographer and says: 00:01:46.938 --> 00:01:49.163 "Well do something, so I can change it!" 00:01:49.163 --> 00:01:50.703 (Laughter) 00:01:50.703 --> 00:01:54.211 So, being a production designer 00:01:54.211 --> 00:01:56.619 is a very intimidating thing. 00:01:56.619 --> 00:02:00.540 A production designer is basically in charge 00:02:00.540 --> 00:02:02.291 of the overall look of the film. 00:02:02.291 --> 00:02:05.142 And that's very scary because 00:02:05.142 --> 00:02:07.328 at Pixar a colleague has said to me, 00:02:07.328 --> 00:02:10.541 his name is Jason Deamer, he's an art director at Pixar, 00:02:10.541 --> 00:02:15.793 has said: "Pain is temporary, suck is forever". 00:02:16.100 --> 00:02:17.493 (Laughter) 00:02:18.108 --> 00:02:23.078 So, I'm gonna do, the theme here is 00:02:23.108 --> 00:02:26.027 "Uncharted Waters" and do something crazy 00:02:26.027 --> 00:02:27.961 and I just said "suck", 00:02:27.961 --> 00:02:31.355 so I'm gonna do something that hopefully doesn't suck too badly 00:02:31.355 --> 00:02:34.722 and I'm gonna make this more relaxing to me. 00:02:34.722 --> 00:02:37.208 So I'm going to just-- 00:02:38.683 --> 00:02:41.251 OK, that sucked but, 00:02:41.251 --> 00:02:44.320 there's a point behind this. 00:02:46.749 --> 00:02:48.848 Basically, where do you begin, right? 00:02:50.601 --> 00:02:53.969 Apple and Pixar founder Steve Jobs 00:02:53.969 --> 00:03:00.990 has said, let's see here, 00:03:01.285 --> 00:03:04.586 "Design is not just what it looks like and feels like, 00:03:04.601 --> 00:03:06.804 design is how it works." 00:03:08.388 --> 00:03:10.529 Film making is a purely collaborative 00:03:10.529 --> 00:03:13.647 art form, and that's why I love it so much. 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:17.396 To make a film's design work, 00:03:17.396 --> 00:03:19.403 the art must support the story. 00:03:19.403 --> 00:03:22.899 and at Pixar we try to tell the best stories that we possibly can. 00:03:22.899 --> 00:03:26.130 You know, the first time I got to production design 00:03:26.130 --> 00:03:27.988 was on the movie "Up", 00:03:27.988 --> 00:03:31.156 and for those that have not seen it, 00:03:31.156 --> 00:03:33.282 you need to leave right now and watch it. 00:03:33.282 --> 00:03:34.898 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:03:34.898 --> 00:03:37.317 But I apologize if I ruin the film for you, 00:03:37.317 --> 00:03:41.014 when I say, it's about a story, about a man 00:03:41.014 --> 00:03:42.907 named Carl Fredricksen. 00:03:42.907 --> 00:03:45.989 And Carl Fredricksen, in the beginning of the film, 00:03:45.989 --> 00:03:48.686 we meet him as a very young child 00:03:48.686 --> 00:03:53.652 and he meets the love of his life, her name is Ellie, 00:03:53.652 --> 00:03:57.564 they fall in love, they get married, 00:03:57.564 --> 00:04:01.398 they go through all the trials and tribulations of life. 00:04:01.398 --> 00:04:03.892 You get to a point were they get old 00:04:03.892 --> 00:04:05.904 and Ellie dies. 00:04:05.904 --> 00:04:07.606 Again, I'm sorry if i ruined it for you, 00:04:07.606 --> 00:04:11.205 but, that's in the first five minutes of the movie 00:04:11.205 --> 00:04:14.233 and I think it's the most beautiful five minutes of the movie. 00:04:14.233 --> 00:04:19.366 It's a really powerful setup 00:04:19.366 --> 00:04:22.218 to Carl Fredricksen's story. 00:04:22.218 --> 00:04:26.980 And then Carl, basically, at that point 00:04:26.980 --> 00:04:29.214 starts being boxed in, 00:04:29.214 --> 00:04:31.399 starts being stuck in his ways. 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.172 He's basically unchanged man. 00:04:34.172 --> 00:04:38.290 So, the approach I took to designing that 00:04:38.290 --> 00:04:40.291 is all based upon that idea, 00:04:40.291 --> 00:04:44.443 and if you bear with me here, 00:04:44.443 --> 00:04:47.252 I'm gonna show you a bit about how I think 00:04:47.252 --> 00:04:53.425 about designing for that movie. 00:04:53.425 --> 00:04:55.827 And it all started with this. 00:04:58.282 --> 00:04:59.707 A simple square. 00:05:01.408 --> 00:05:02.960 Basically, I go to work, 00:05:02.960 --> 00:05:04.279 I draw that, I show the director 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:06.560 and then I go home and 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:07.606 turn on the Internet. 00:05:07.606 --> 00:05:08.439 OK that was a joke. 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:09.996 (Laughter) 00:05:09.996 --> 00:05:14.022 It takes some time to translate the jokes, I'm sure. 00:05:14.022 --> 00:05:18.551 No, it starts with a simple idea, 00:05:18.551 --> 00:05:19.470 the square. 00:05:19.470 --> 00:05:24.310 And the square to me, while I'm designing, 00:05:24.310 --> 00:05:28.163 it's static, it's not dynamic, 00:05:28.163 --> 00:05:31.155 it's solid and stable, 00:05:31.155 --> 00:05:35.799 but it's also basically boxed in. 00:05:35.799 --> 00:05:38.395 So, as I'm thinking of these things while I'm designing 00:05:38.395 --> 00:05:39.833 on the shape, 00:05:39.833 --> 00:05:41.915 things come together. 00:05:46.636 --> 00:05:50.241 And all of these ideas, 00:05:50.241 --> 00:05:53.237 and here's some square glasses, 00:05:53.237 --> 00:05:55.835 is supported by that square. 00:06:02.458 --> 00:06:05.240 He's got square ears, 00:06:06.570 --> 00:06:09.861 and this is basically Carl Fredricksen 00:06:09.861 --> 00:06:12.767 see, hold your applause, I'm not done yet. 00:06:12.767 --> 00:06:15.911 (Laughter) 00:06:16.722 --> 00:06:18.945 He's got a square body. 00:06:22.113 --> 00:06:26.490 Uncharted waters, I don't normally draw in front of people like this. 00:06:28.428 --> 00:06:32.449 So, you're getting first time stuff going on here. 00:06:32.449 --> 00:06:34.138 He's got square hands, 00:06:34.138 --> 00:06:36.248 a lot of squares to support that simple, 00:06:36.248 --> 00:06:38.069 simple idea. 00:06:47.417 --> 00:06:48.730 Carl Fredrickson. 00:06:48.730 --> 00:06:56.337 (Applause) 00:06:56.420 --> 00:07:01.734 So, another character that takes Carl through his journey 00:07:01.734 --> 00:07:03.695 and actually tries to change him 00:07:03.695 --> 00:07:05.811 and make him a more well-rounded character, 00:07:05.811 --> 00:07:08.788 is a character named Russel. 00:07:08.811 --> 00:07:14.743 And what's simpler shape that contrasts that square 00:07:14.743 --> 00:07:16.415 but a circle? 00:07:16.415 --> 00:07:18.865 So, I'll get here 00:07:21.889 --> 00:07:26.809 So, the circle symbolizes positivity and moving forward. 00:07:26.809 --> 00:07:28.409 It's a very dynamic thing, 00:07:28.409 --> 00:07:31.683 It's all of these things that 00:07:31.683 --> 00:07:36.409 need to help Carl get more well-rounded. 00:07:36.409 --> 00:07:38.610 So Russel was based upon this idea. 00:07:41.732 --> 00:07:43.901 It's kind of like a balloon shape. 00:07:44.266 --> 00:07:48.036 And Russel, is this wilderness explorer. 00:07:50.297 --> 00:07:55.487 A very positive kid. 00:07:55.487 --> 00:08:00.703 And he's got all these circular motifs all around his body. 00:08:11.361 --> 00:08:12.887 Like that. 00:08:12.887 --> 00:08:15.249 And he has, well, I'm not done yet. 00:08:15.249 --> 00:08:16.867 (Laughter) 00:08:16.883 --> 00:08:19.939 I wanted to show you all the details around his body, 00:08:19.939 --> 00:08:21.261 which are very circular. 00:08:21.261 --> 00:08:23.130 And we think about all theses things, 00:08:23.130 --> 00:08:25.562 you know, he's got this sash, 00:08:25.562 --> 00:08:28.118 and part of the story 00:08:28.118 --> 00:08:31.946 is that he's collecting all of these badges 00:08:31.946 --> 00:08:33.971 as a wilderness explorer 00:08:33.987 --> 00:08:35.465 and it's all these circular things 00:08:35.465 --> 00:08:38.313 and each badge has a story, 00:08:38.313 --> 00:08:40.532 but right here is this empty one. 00:08:40.532 --> 00:08:43.184 He's trying to get the "Assisting the elderly" badge, 00:08:43.184 --> 00:08:45.343 and by design it's over his heart. 00:08:45.343 --> 00:08:54.053 And one of these things is that they would work with each other. 00:08:54.053 --> 00:08:55.650 You have the square and the circle. 00:08:55.650 --> 00:08:57.780 But for Carl there's also a story point 00:08:57.780 --> 00:09:01.971 of this circular symbol right over his heart, 00:09:01.971 --> 00:09:04.148 and that's the Ellie badge. 00:09:04.148 --> 00:09:06.271 So you need to watch the movie in order to 00:09:06.271 --> 00:09:08.178 understand what's going on there. 00:09:08.329 --> 00:09:12.892 But, you know, we think about all of these things 00:09:12.892 --> 00:09:19.211 as we design and it's a very long process. 00:09:19.211 --> 00:09:21.036 You know, it takes an average of four years 00:09:21.036 --> 00:09:23.326 to make an animated film at Pixar. 00:09:25.602 --> 00:09:29.771 And we also, while we are thinking of making the movie, 00:09:29.771 --> 00:09:32.773 we have fun putting these simple shapes 00:09:32.773 --> 00:09:34.357 all over the movie. 00:09:34.357 --> 00:09:36.353 So you can see here, where Carl wakes up, 00:09:36.353 --> 00:09:39.852 on his side of the bed are the square symbology, 00:09:39.852 --> 00:09:42.601 and on her side is this circle symbology. 00:09:42.601 --> 00:09:46.409 And so, you know, it's fun to do this 00:09:46.409 --> 00:09:50.163 and we have kind of these ideas, 00:09:50.163 --> 00:09:53.857 but the main point is to not see it 00:09:53.857 --> 00:09:55.260 while you are watching the movie, 00:09:55.260 --> 00:09:57.430 but you should feel it. 00:09:57.430 --> 00:10:00.279 If we do our job right, you don't notice this stuff, 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.270 but you feel it. 00:10:03.642 --> 00:10:05.240 It's also here, 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.938 in picture frames around the house. 00:10:07.938 --> 00:10:10.927 If Carl is by himself, he's in a square picture frame. 00:10:10.927 --> 00:10:13.948 If Ellie is in the picture frame by herself, she's in an oval picture frame. 00:10:13.948 --> 00:10:16.472 Someone asked: "What if they're in the picture together?" 00:10:16.472 --> 00:10:18.788 Well, it's a square frame with an oval mat. 00:10:18.788 --> 00:10:20.886 (Laughter) 00:10:22.196 --> 00:10:25.386 You can see in this image, Russel is literally 00:10:25.386 --> 00:10:28.666 separated from from Carl with lighting. 00:10:28.666 --> 00:10:31.296 It's just cut right through the shot. 00:10:31.310 --> 00:10:34.121 And all of these things support that simple idea, 00:10:34.121 --> 00:10:36.571 basing upon that simple idea of circle and squares. 00:10:36.571 --> 00:10:40.121 You can see the circular motif all around his design 00:10:40.121 --> 00:10:43.281 and his very colorful, very saturated color. 00:10:43.281 --> 00:10:44.650 And Carl's desaturated. 00:10:45.045 --> 00:10:47.422 So he's trying to get color back into Carl, 00:10:47.437 --> 00:10:50.200 he's trying to get him more well rounded. 00:10:51.754 --> 00:10:55.015 Very clearly it's in the prop design. 00:10:55.015 --> 00:10:56.345 Carl and Ellie's chair, 00:10:56.345 --> 00:10:57.544 you can see the circle and square 00:10:57.544 --> 00:11:01.747 shape vocabulary there, shape language. 00:11:01.747 --> 00:11:04.675 And at the end of the film, after Carl has gone through his adventure, 00:11:04.675 --> 00:11:08.272 you can see that he's a more softened character. 00:11:08.272 --> 00:11:09.703 He's more well rounded. 00:11:09.703 --> 00:11:10.756 You know, he's tanned, 00:11:10.756 --> 00:11:12.920 he has more life in him. 00:11:12.920 --> 00:11:16.362 And the idea of this, is that 00:11:16.362 --> 00:11:19.294 it's a process of making things simple. 00:11:19.294 --> 00:11:21.842 But we all know that simple is 00:11:21.842 --> 00:11:23.382 not necessarily simpler. 00:11:25.572 --> 00:11:28.582 Pablo Picasso, the famous artist has said: 00:11:28.594 --> 00:11:32.034 "It has taken me four years to paint like Rafael, 00:11:32.034 --> 00:11:35.124 but a lifetime to paint like a child." 00:11:35.124 --> 00:11:36.844 You know, kids have an amazing 00:11:36.854 --> 00:11:41.854 directness to the way they draw and express themselves. 00:11:41.854 --> 00:11:45.457 This is a beautiful drawing by my daughter Olivia, 00:11:45.457 --> 00:11:47.781 who's actually in the audience right now. 00:11:47.781 --> 00:11:55.743 (Applause) 00:11:55.754 --> 00:11:56.974 Sleeping, bored. 00:11:56.974 --> 00:12:00.484 (Laughter) 00:12:00.484 --> 00:12:02.176 Uncharted waters, this is what it's all about. 00:12:02.176 --> 00:12:03.492 (Laughter) 00:12:03.492 --> 00:12:05.315 She's never gonna forget that. 00:12:05.336 --> 00:12:06.731 I'm never gonna forget it. 00:12:06.731 --> 00:12:08.821 Oh my gosh, this is amazing. 00:12:12.529 --> 00:12:17.459 Let me tell you about how amazingly full of life she is. 00:12:18.101 --> 00:12:19.888 (Laughter) 00:12:19.903 --> 00:12:23.279 No, she drew this drawing and, you know, 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:25.996 young kids, they just jump in. 00:12:25.996 --> 00:12:28.022 They're joyful when they create. 00:12:28.022 --> 00:12:29.857 You know, Eugene was talking about that, 00:12:29.857 --> 00:12:31.699 about the kids, 00:12:31.699 --> 00:12:34.999 very young kids will just dive in. 00:12:34.999 --> 00:12:37.655 You know, they're not afraid of that blank piece of paper. 00:12:37.655 --> 00:12:40.740 They can't wait to fill that blank piece of paper. 00:12:40.740 --> 00:12:44.764 They simplify down to it's purest essence. 00:12:44.764 --> 00:12:47.768 You know, pure drawing comes from the soul. 00:12:47.768 --> 00:12:49.094 It comes from deep inside of you, 00:12:49.094 --> 00:12:50.798 and that's how you can communicate. 00:12:50.798 --> 00:12:52.835 You know, I've been drawing, 00:12:52.835 --> 00:12:54.074 my first drawings are when 00:12:54.074 --> 00:12:55.938 I think I was three years old. 00:12:55.938 --> 00:12:58.403 I asked my mom: "Who did these drawings on my bed?" 00:12:58.403 --> 00:13:00.143 and she said: "You did". 00:13:00.143 --> 00:13:01.539 "You found a permanent marker, 00:13:01.539 --> 00:13:02.696 you destroyed your bed, 00:13:02.696 --> 00:13:04.412 and then you went to the walls. 00:13:04.462 --> 00:13:05.904 You kept going around the house". 00:13:07.002 --> 00:13:09.706 And my mom, instead of getting angry, 00:13:09.721 --> 00:13:11.941 she brought home paper for me to draw 00:13:12.310 --> 00:13:14.662 on the paper instead of her walls. 00:13:14.662 --> 00:13:16.931 So I'm very very thankful and appreciate 00:13:16.931 --> 00:13:20.011 that she's an enabler and she supports my addiction, 00:13:20.065 --> 00:13:22.231 and, OK that was a joke. 00:13:22.231 --> 00:13:25.783 I love my mom for doing that, really. 00:13:25.783 --> 00:13:30.356 I would get completely lost when I was a child, 00:13:30.356 --> 00:13:32.864 and it's called "Getting in the zone" 00:13:32.864 --> 00:13:34.690 where the world would just disappear, 00:13:34.690 --> 00:13:37.688 and I would make sound effects and I would just 00:13:37.688 --> 00:13:40.861 completely lose myself and, you know, 00:13:40.861 --> 00:13:43.659 as an artist, that's the thing you try to strive for. 00:13:43.659 --> 00:13:45.261 You know, getting in that zone. 00:13:45.261 --> 00:13:49.923 Kids also, in terms of drawing, they get to the heart of it. 00:13:49.923 --> 00:13:53.458 My youngest daughter who's also in the audience, 00:13:53.458 --> 00:13:55.756 Lilly. She's not sleeping. Is she? 00:13:55.756 --> 00:14:06.492 (Laughter) (Applause) 00:14:06.492 --> 00:14:08.155 She's gonna kill me. 00:14:09.368 --> 00:14:12.127 Oh my gosh, my kids are gonna kill me. 00:14:12.127 --> 00:14:14.862 (Laughter) 00:14:14.862 --> 00:14:17.632 Lilly, when she was around four years old, 00:14:17.632 --> 00:14:18.461 she's about five, 00:14:18.461 --> 00:14:20.581 maybe actually when she was about three or four, 00:14:20.581 --> 00:14:25.597 she drew this amazing drawing of our pet dog right here. 00:14:25.597 --> 00:14:27.625 Our dog, Kika. 00:14:27.625 --> 00:14:29.922 Kika is a little Doxin, a little wiener dog. 00:14:29.922 --> 00:14:31.257 And I looked at the drawing, 00:14:31.257 --> 00:14:32.601 I loved it, but I said 00:14:32.601 --> 00:14:37.129 "Hey, Lilly, dogs only have four legs". 00:14:37.129 --> 00:14:40.316 And she said "She's running, papa". 00:14:40.316 --> 00:14:42.203 (Laughter) 00:14:42.203 --> 00:14:46.120 Isn't that amazing? That is so amazing to me. 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:47.796 And there's cave drawings, you know, 00:14:47.796 --> 00:14:51.517 where there's animals running, and there're multiple legs. 00:14:51.517 --> 00:14:54.829 It's like the first animation, in a cave. 00:14:54.829 --> 00:14:59.428 So, you know, it's just so inspirational. 00:14:59.428 --> 00:15:02.400 I look at kids' drawings and that pure, 00:15:02.400 --> 00:15:06.551 that purity in this things that Ι just feed from. 00:15:06.551 --> 00:15:09.862 And the last thing is, 00:15:09.862 --> 00:15:12.596 ultimately kids are not afraid of making mistakes. 00:15:12.596 --> 00:15:16.830 My goal is to continue to draw 00:15:16.830 --> 00:15:20.143 so some day I will be able to draw like a child. 00:15:22.773 --> 00:15:29.446 So, my last point is, let's come back to this. 00:15:34.506 --> 00:15:38.252 I would say if anything you get out of this talk 00:15:38.542 --> 00:15:42.112 is- don't be intimidated by the blank sheet. 00:15:41.760 --> 00:15:45.760 You know, start with something. 00:15:45.760 --> 00:15:48.365 Start with a scribble, start with something. 00:15:48.365 --> 00:15:50.268 "Fail early, fail often" 00:15:50.268 --> 00:15:52.733 That's a saying that we have at the studio. 00:15:52.733 --> 00:15:59.003 But you need to be brave and take risks. 00:16:02.741 --> 00:16:04.531 I'm gonna create something out of this here. 00:16:06.481 --> 00:16:07.708 Lets see-- 00:16:23.828 --> 00:16:28.003 It's a duck holding its egg close to its body. 00:16:28.003 --> 00:16:31.596 (Laughter) 00:16:31.596 --> 00:16:51.179 (Applause) 00:16:51.179 --> 00:16:52.154 Thank you.