1 00:00:01,722 --> 00:00:04,135 So I want to talk today about money and happiness, 2 00:00:04,159 --> 00:00:07,717 which are two things a lot of us spend a lot of our time thinking about, 3 00:00:07,741 --> 00:00:10,571 either trying to earn them or trying to increase them. 4 00:00:10,595 --> 00:00:12,874 And a lot of us resonate with this phrase, 5 00:00:12,898 --> 00:00:15,707 we see it in religions and self-help books: 6 00:00:15,731 --> 00:00:17,026 money can't buy happiness. 7 00:00:17,050 --> 00:00:19,825 And I want to suggest today that, in fact, that's wrong. 8 00:00:19,849 --> 00:00:21,900 (Laughter) 9 00:00:21,924 --> 00:00:24,141 I'm at a business school, so that's what we do. 10 00:00:24,165 --> 00:00:25,318 So that's wrong, 11 00:00:25,342 --> 00:00:28,565 and in fact, if you think that, you're just not spending it right. 12 00:00:28,589 --> 00:00:31,237 So instead of spending it the way you usually spend it, 13 00:00:31,261 --> 00:00:34,748 maybe if you spent it differently, that might work a little bit better. 14 00:00:34,772 --> 00:00:38,217 Before I tell you the ways you can spend it that will make you happier, 15 00:00:38,241 --> 00:00:40,424 let's think about the ways we usually spend it 16 00:00:40,448 --> 00:00:42,260 that don't, in fact, make us happier. 17 00:00:42,284 --> 00:00:44,020 We had a little natural experiment. 18 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:46,827 So CNN, a little while ago, wrote this interesting article 19 00:00:46,851 --> 00:00:49,343 on what happens to people when they win the lottery. 20 00:00:49,367 --> 00:00:51,805 It turns out people think when they win the lottery 21 00:00:51,829 --> 00:00:53,186 their lives will be amazing. 22 00:00:53,210 --> 00:00:55,520 This article's about how their lives get ruined. 23 00:00:55,544 --> 00:00:57,465 What happens when people win the lottery 24 00:00:57,489 --> 00:00:59,887 is, one, they spend all the money and go into debt; 25 00:00:59,911 --> 00:01:02,979 and two, all of their friends and everyone they've ever met 26 00:01:03,003 --> 00:01:04,748 find them and bug them for money. 27 00:01:04,772 --> 00:01:06,944 It ruins their social relationships, in fact. 28 00:01:06,968 --> 00:01:09,052 So they have more debt and worse friendships 29 00:01:09,076 --> 00:01:11,103 than they had before they won the lottery. 30 00:01:11,127 --> 00:01:13,147 What was interesting about the article was, 31 00:01:13,171 --> 00:01:16,163 people started commenting on the article, readers of the thing. 32 00:01:16,187 --> 00:01:18,699 And instead of talking about how it made them realize 33 00:01:18,723 --> 00:01:20,521 that money doesn't lead to happiness, 34 00:01:20,545 --> 00:01:23,989 everyone started saying, "You know what I'd do if I won the lottery ...?" 35 00:01:24,013 --> 00:01:25,812 and fantasizing about what they'd do. 36 00:01:25,836 --> 00:01:29,206 Here's just two of the ones we saw that are interesting to think about. 37 00:01:29,230 --> 00:01:32,566 One person wrote, "When I win, I'm going to buy my own little mountain 38 00:01:32,590 --> 00:01:34,158 and have a little house on top." 39 00:01:34,182 --> 00:01:35,497 (Laughter) 40 00:01:35,521 --> 00:01:38,570 And another person wrote, "I would fill a big bathtub with money 41 00:01:38,594 --> 00:01:40,834 and get in the tub while smoking a big fat cigar 42 00:01:40,858 --> 00:01:42,704 and sipping a glass of champagne." 43 00:01:42,728 --> 00:01:45,288 This is even worse: "... then I'd have a picture taken 44 00:01:45,312 --> 00:01:46,656 and dozens of glossies made. 45 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,176 Anyone begging for money or trying to extort from me 46 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,951 would receive a copy of the picture and nothing else." 47 00:01:51,975 --> 00:01:54,420 (Laughter) 48 00:01:54,444 --> 00:01:57,017 And so many of the comments were exactly of this type, 49 00:01:57,041 --> 00:02:00,309 where people got money and, in fact, it made them antisocial. 50 00:02:00,333 --> 00:02:03,521 So I told you it ruins people's lives and their friends bug them. 51 00:02:03,545 --> 00:02:05,737 Also, money often makes us feel very selfish 52 00:02:05,761 --> 00:02:07,576 and we do things only for ourselves. 53 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,216 We thought maybe the reason money doesn't make us happy 54 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,412 is that we're spending it on the wrong things; 55 00:02:12,436 --> 00:02:14,962 in particular, we're always spending it on ourselves. 56 00:02:14,986 --> 00:02:16,573 And we wondered what would happen 57 00:02:16,597 --> 00:02:19,137 if we made people spend more of their money on others. 58 00:02:19,161 --> 00:02:21,384 So instead of being antisocial with your money, 59 00:02:21,408 --> 00:02:23,411 what if you were more pro-social with it? 60 00:02:23,435 --> 00:02:26,279 We thought, let's make people do it and see what happens. 61 00:02:26,303 --> 00:02:28,505 Let's have some people do what they usually do, 62 00:02:28,529 --> 00:02:29,807 spend money on themselves, 63 00:02:29,831 --> 00:02:31,862 and let's make some people give money away, 64 00:02:31,886 --> 00:02:35,000 and measure their happiness and see if, in fact, they get happier. 65 00:02:35,024 --> 00:02:37,577 The first way we did this was, one Vancouver morning, 66 00:02:37,601 --> 00:02:40,576 we went out on the campus at University of British Columbia, 67 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,664 approached people and said, "Do you want to be in an experiment?" 68 00:02:43,688 --> 00:02:44,856 They said, "Yes." 69 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,981 We asked them how happy they were, and then gave them an envelope. 70 00:02:48,005 --> 00:02:50,319 One of the envelopes had things in it that said, 71 00:02:50,343 --> 00:02:53,338 "By 5pm today, spend this money on yourself." 72 00:02:53,362 --> 00:02:55,935 We gave some examples of what you could spend it on. 73 00:02:55,959 --> 00:02:58,024 Other people got a slip of paper that said, 74 00:02:58,048 --> 00:03:01,163 "By 5pm today, spend this money on somebody else." 75 00:03:01,187 --> 00:03:03,377 Also inside the envelope was money. 76 00:03:03,401 --> 00:03:05,612 And we manipulated how much money we gave them; 77 00:03:05,636 --> 00:03:08,263 some people got this slip of paper and five dollars, 78 00:03:08,287 --> 00:03:10,899 some got this slip of paper and 20 dollars. 79 00:03:10,923 --> 00:03:13,930 We let them go about their day and do whatever they wanted. 80 00:03:13,954 --> 00:03:16,931 We found out they did spend it in the way we asked them to. 81 00:03:16,955 --> 00:03:19,872 We called them up and asked them, "What did you spend it on? 82 00:03:19,896 --> 00:03:21,212 How happy do you feel now?" 83 00:03:21,236 --> 00:03:22,487 What did they spend it on? 84 00:03:22,511 --> 00:03:23,908 These are college undergrads; 85 00:03:23,932 --> 00:03:26,047 a lot of what they spent it on for themselves 86 00:03:26,071 --> 00:03:27,867 were things like earrings and makeup. 87 00:03:27,891 --> 00:03:30,570 One woman said she bought a stuffed animal for her niece. 88 00:03:30,594 --> 00:03:32,373 People gave money to homeless people. 89 00:03:32,397 --> 00:03:34,440 Huge effect here of Starbucks. 90 00:03:34,464 --> 00:03:36,188 (Laughter) 91 00:03:36,212 --> 00:03:38,228 So if you give undergraduates five dollars, 92 00:03:38,252 --> 00:03:39,650 it looks like coffee to them, 93 00:03:39,674 --> 00:03:42,722 and they run over to Starbucks and spend it as fast as they can. 94 00:03:42,746 --> 00:03:46,056 Some people bought coffee for themselves, the way they usually would, 95 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,199 but others bought coffee for somebody else. 96 00:03:48,223 --> 00:03:49,899 So the very same purchase, 97 00:03:49,923 --> 00:03:53,237 just targeted toward yourself or targeted toward somebody else. 98 00:03:53,261 --> 00:03:55,824 What did we find when we called at the end of the day? 99 00:03:55,848 --> 00:03:57,983 People who spent money on others got happier; 100 00:03:58,007 --> 00:04:00,497 people who spent it on themselves, nothing happened. 101 00:04:00,521 --> 00:04:03,549 It didn't make them less happy, it just didn't do much for them. 102 00:04:03,573 --> 00:04:06,676 The other thing we saw is the amount of money doesn't matter much. 103 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:09,345 People thought 20 dollars would be way better than five. 104 00:04:09,369 --> 00:04:11,826 In fact, it doesn't matter how much money you spent. 105 00:04:11,850 --> 00:04:14,546 What really matters is that you spent it on somebody else 106 00:04:14,570 --> 00:04:15,741 rather than on yourself. 107 00:04:15,765 --> 00:04:17,071 We see this again and again 108 00:04:17,095 --> 00:04:20,453 when we give people money to spend on others instead of on themselves. 109 00:04:20,477 --> 00:04:22,743 Of course, these are undergraduates in Canada -- 110 00:04:22,767 --> 00:04:24,982 not the world's most representative population. 111 00:04:25,006 --> 00:04:28,160 They're also fairly wealthy and affluent and other sorts of things. 112 00:04:28,184 --> 00:04:30,950 We wanted to see if this holds true everywhere in the world 113 00:04:30,974 --> 00:04:32,519 or just among wealthy countries. 114 00:04:32,543 --> 00:04:35,349 So we went to Uganda and ran a very similar experiment. 115 00:04:35,373 --> 00:04:37,726 Imagine, instead of just people in Canada, we say, 116 00:04:37,750 --> 00:04:40,508 "Name the last time you spent money on yourself or others. 117 00:04:40,532 --> 00:04:42,449 Describe it. How happy did it make you?" 118 00:04:42,473 --> 00:04:45,891 Or in Uganda, "Name the last time you spent money on yourself or others 119 00:04:45,915 --> 00:04:47,072 and describe that." 120 00:04:47,096 --> 00:04:49,257 Then we asked them how happy they are, again. 121 00:04:49,281 --> 00:04:50,961 And what we see is sort of amazing, 122 00:04:50,985 --> 00:04:54,030 because there's human universals on what you do with your money, 123 00:04:54,054 --> 00:04:56,541 and real cultural differences on what you do as well. 124 00:04:56,565 --> 00:04:59,869 So for example, one guy from Uganda says this: 125 00:04:59,893 --> 00:05:01,769 "I called a girl I wished to love." 126 00:05:01,793 --> 00:05:03,576 They basically went out on a date, 127 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,852 and he says at the end that he didn't "achieve" her up till now. 128 00:05:06,876 --> 00:05:08,040 (Laughter) 129 00:05:08,064 --> 00:05:10,035 Here's a guy from Canada. 130 00:05:10,059 --> 00:05:11,766 Very similar thing. 131 00:05:11,790 --> 00:05:13,781 "I took my girlfriend out for dinner. 132 00:05:13,805 --> 00:05:15,646 We went to a movie, we left early, 133 00:05:15,670 --> 00:05:19,469 and then went back to her room for ... cake," just cake. 134 00:05:19,493 --> 00:05:20,847 (Laughter) 135 00:05:20,871 --> 00:05:22,024 Human universal: 136 00:05:22,048 --> 00:05:24,284 you spend money on others, you're being nice. 137 00:05:24,308 --> 00:05:26,373 Maybe you have something in mind, maybe not. 138 00:05:26,397 --> 00:05:28,449 But then we see extraordinary differences. 139 00:05:28,473 --> 00:05:29,626 So look at these two. 140 00:05:29,650 --> 00:05:31,004 This is a woman from Canada. 141 00:05:31,028 --> 00:05:33,604 We say, "Name a time you spent money on somebody else." 142 00:05:33,628 --> 00:05:35,605 She says, "I bought a present for my mom. 143 00:05:35,629 --> 00:05:38,355 I drove to the mall, bought a present, gave it to my mom." 144 00:05:38,379 --> 00:05:39,682 Perfectly nice thing to do. 145 00:05:39,706 --> 00:05:41,761 It's good to get gifts for people you know. 146 00:05:41,785 --> 00:05:44,117 Compare that to this woman from Uganda: 147 00:05:44,141 --> 00:05:47,835 "I was walking and met a longtime friend whose son was sick with malaria. 148 00:05:47,859 --> 00:05:51,233 They had no money, they went to a clinic and I gave her this money." 149 00:05:51,257 --> 00:05:53,466 This isn't $10,000, it's the local currency. 150 00:05:53,490 --> 00:05:55,682 So it's a very small amount of money, in fact. 151 00:05:55,706 --> 00:05:57,815 But enormously different motivations here. 152 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,367 This is a real medical need, literally a lifesaving donation. 153 00:06:01,391 --> 00:06:04,139 Above, it's just kind of, I bought a gift for my mother. 154 00:06:04,163 --> 00:06:05,774 What we see again, though, 155 00:06:05,798 --> 00:06:09,448 is that the specific way you spend on other people isn't nearly as important 156 00:06:09,472 --> 00:06:13,422 as the fact that you spend on other people in order to make yourself happy, 157 00:06:13,446 --> 00:06:15,005 which is really quite important. 158 00:06:15,029 --> 00:06:17,570 So you don't have to do amazing things with your money 159 00:06:17,594 --> 00:06:18,745 to make yourself happy. 160 00:06:18,769 --> 00:06:22,372 You can do small, trivial things and still get the benefits from doing this. 161 00:06:22,396 --> 00:06:23,805 These are only two countries. 162 00:06:23,829 --> 00:06:26,778 We wanted to look at every country in the world if we could, 163 00:06:26,802 --> 00:06:29,701 to see what the relationship is between money and happiness. 164 00:06:29,725 --> 00:06:31,709 We got data from the Gallup Organization, 165 00:06:31,733 --> 00:06:34,608 which you know from all the political polls happening lately. 166 00:06:34,632 --> 00:06:37,565 They asked people, "Did you donate money to charity recently?" 167 00:06:37,589 --> 00:06:39,762 and, "How happy are you with life in general?" 168 00:06:39,786 --> 00:06:42,663 We can see what the relationship is between those two things. 169 00:06:42,687 --> 00:06:45,599 Are they positively correlated, giving money makes you happy? 170 00:06:45,623 --> 00:06:47,263 Or are they negatively correlated? 171 00:06:47,287 --> 00:06:50,082 On this map, green will mean they're positively correlated, 172 00:06:50,106 --> 00:06:52,026 red means they're negatively correlated. 173 00:06:52,050 --> 00:06:54,147 And you can see, the world is crazily green. 174 00:06:54,171 --> 00:06:57,434 So in almost every country in the world where we have this data, 175 00:06:57,458 --> 00:06:59,915 people who give money to charity are happier people 176 00:06:59,939 --> 00:07:02,069 than people who don't give money to charity. 177 00:07:02,093 --> 00:07:04,707 I know you're looking at the red country in the middle. 178 00:07:04,731 --> 00:07:06,885 I would be a jerk and not tell you what it is, 179 00:07:06,909 --> 00:07:08,544 but it's Central African Republic. 180 00:07:08,568 --> 00:07:09,720 You can make up stories. 181 00:07:09,744 --> 00:07:11,756 Maybe it's different there for some reason. 182 00:07:11,780 --> 00:07:13,994 Just below that to the right is Rwanda, though, 183 00:07:14,018 --> 00:07:15,232 which is amazingly green. 184 00:07:15,256 --> 00:07:16,642 So almost everywhere we look, 185 00:07:16,666 --> 00:07:19,099 we see that giving money away makes you happier 186 00:07:19,123 --> 00:07:20,669 than keeping it for yourself. 187 00:07:20,693 --> 00:07:23,658 What about work, which is where we spend the rest of our time, 188 00:07:23,682 --> 00:07:25,544 when we're not with the people we know. 189 00:07:25,568 --> 00:07:28,791 We decided to infiltrate some companies and do a very similar thing. 190 00:07:28,815 --> 00:07:30,620 These are sales teams in Belgium. 191 00:07:30,644 --> 00:07:33,693 They work in teams, go out and sell to doctors 192 00:07:33,717 --> 00:07:35,293 and try to get them to buy drugs. 193 00:07:35,317 --> 00:07:37,463 We can look and see how well they sell things 194 00:07:37,487 --> 00:07:39,730 as a function of being a member of a team. 195 00:07:39,754 --> 00:07:42,360 We give people on some teams some money 196 00:07:42,384 --> 00:07:44,348 "Spend it however you want on yourself," 197 00:07:44,372 --> 00:07:46,622 just like we did with the undergrads in Canada. 198 00:07:46,646 --> 00:07:50,316 To other teams we say, "Here's 15 euro. Spend it on one of your teammates. 199 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:53,004 Buy them something as a gift and give it to them. 200 00:07:53,028 --> 00:07:55,728 Then we can see, we've got teams that spend on themselves 201 00:07:55,752 --> 00:07:59,523 and these pro-social teams who we give money to make the team better. 202 00:07:59,547 --> 00:08:01,576 The reason I have a ridiculous pinata there 203 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,015 is one team pooled their money and bought a pinata, 204 00:08:04,039 --> 00:08:07,120 they smashed the pinata, the candy fell out and things like that. 205 00:08:07,144 --> 00:08:08,584 A silly, trivial thing to do, 206 00:08:08,608 --> 00:08:11,913 but think of the difference on a team that didn't do that at all, 207 00:08:11,937 --> 00:08:15,511 that got 15 euro, put it in their pocket, maybe bought themselves a coffee, 208 00:08:15,535 --> 00:08:17,595 or teams that had this pro-social experience 209 00:08:17,619 --> 00:08:20,910 where they bonded together to buy something and do a group activity. 210 00:08:20,934 --> 00:08:24,003 What we see is that the teams that are pro-social sell more stuff 211 00:08:24,027 --> 00:08:26,422 than the teams that only got money for themselves. 212 00:08:26,446 --> 00:08:30,089 One way to think of it is: for every 15 euro you give people for themselves, 213 00:08:30,113 --> 00:08:33,521 they put it in their pocket and don't do anything different than before. 214 00:08:33,545 --> 00:08:34,986 You don't get money from that; 215 00:08:35,010 --> 00:08:38,089 you lose money, since it doesn't motivate them to perform better. 216 00:08:38,113 --> 00:08:40,915 But when you give them 15 euro to spend on their teammates, 217 00:08:40,939 --> 00:08:42,713 they do so much better on their teams 218 00:08:42,737 --> 00:08:45,831 that you actually get a huge win on investing this kind of money. 219 00:08:45,855 --> 00:08:48,537 You're probably thinking to yourselves, this is all fine, 220 00:08:48,561 --> 00:08:51,764 but there's a context that's incredibly important for public policy, 221 00:08:51,788 --> 00:08:53,702 and I can't imagine it would work there. 222 00:08:53,726 --> 00:08:55,833 And if he doesn't show me that it works here, 223 00:08:55,857 --> 00:08:57,471 I don't believe anything he said. 224 00:08:57,495 --> 00:09:00,282 I know what you're all thinking about are dodgeball teams. 225 00:09:00,306 --> 00:09:01,697 (Laughter) 226 00:09:01,721 --> 00:09:03,576 This was a huge criticism that we got, 227 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,781 that if you can't show it with dodgeball teams, this is all stupid. 228 00:09:06,805 --> 00:09:10,988 So we went and found these dodgeball teams and infiltrated them, 229 00:09:11,012 --> 00:09:12,890 and did the exact same thing as before. 230 00:09:12,914 --> 00:09:15,834 So we give people on some teams money to spend on themselves. 231 00:09:15,858 --> 00:09:19,576 Other teams, we give them money to spend on their dodgeball teammates. 232 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,576 The teams that spend money on themselves 233 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,786 have the same winning percentages as before. 234 00:09:23,810 --> 00:09:26,229 The teams we give the money to spend on each other 235 00:09:26,253 --> 00:09:27,408 become different teams; 236 00:09:27,432 --> 00:09:29,983 they dominate the league by the time they're done. 237 00:09:30,007 --> 00:09:32,016 Across all of these different contexts -- 238 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,648 your personal life, you work life, even things like intramural sports -- 239 00:09:35,672 --> 00:09:38,482 we see spending on other people has a bigger return for you 240 00:09:38,506 --> 00:09:40,480 than spending on yourself. 241 00:09:40,504 --> 00:09:44,305 So if you think money can't buy happiness, you're not spending it right. 242 00:09:44,329 --> 00:09:47,909 The implication isn't you should buy this product instead of that product, 243 00:09:47,933 --> 00:09:50,063 and that's the way to make yourself happier. 244 00:09:50,087 --> 00:09:53,722 It's that you should stop thinking about which product to buy for yourself, 245 00:09:53,746 --> 00:09:56,576 and try giving some of it to other people instead. 246 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,104 And we luckily have an opportunity for you. 247 00:09:59,128 --> 00:10:03,198 DonorsChoose.org is a nonprofit for mainly public school teachers 248 00:10:03,222 --> 00:10:04,655 in low-income schools. 249 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,972 They post projects like, 250 00:10:05,996 --> 00:10:09,016 "I want to teach Huckleberry Finn and we don't have the books," 251 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,526 or, "I want a microscope to teach my students science 252 00:10:11,550 --> 00:10:13,079 and we don't have a microscope." 253 00:10:13,103 --> 00:10:15,054 You and I can go on and buy it for them. 254 00:10:15,078 --> 00:10:17,553 The teacher and the kids write you thank-you notes, 255 00:10:17,577 --> 00:10:20,390 sometimes they send pictures of them using the microscope. 256 00:10:20,414 --> 00:10:21,760 It's an extraordinary thing. 257 00:10:21,784 --> 00:10:24,900 Go to the website and start yourself on the process of thinking 258 00:10:24,924 --> 00:10:27,028 less about "How can I spend money on myself?" 259 00:10:27,052 --> 00:10:29,909 and more about "If I've got five dollars or 15 dollars, 260 00:10:29,933 --> 00:10:32,078 what can I do to benefit other people?" 261 00:10:32,102 --> 00:10:35,588 Ultimately, when you do that, you'll find you benefit yourself much more. 262 00:10:35,612 --> 00:10:36,803 Thank you. 263 00:10:36,827 --> 00:10:38,230 (Applause)