1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 So I want to talk today about money and happiness, 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,000 which are two things 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 that a lot of us spend a lot of our time thinking about, 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 either trying to earn them or trying to increase them. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 And a lot of us resonate with this phrase. 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 So we see it in religions and self-help books, 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 that money can't buy happiness. 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,000 And I want to suggest today that, in fact, that's wrong. 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,000 (Laughter) 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 I'm at a business school, so that's what we do. 11 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 So that's wrong, and, in fact, if you think that, 12 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 you're actually just not spending it right. 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 So that instead of spending it the way you usually spend it, 14 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 maybe if you spent it differently, 15 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 that might work a little bit better. 16 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 And before I tell you the ways that you can spend it that will make you happier, 17 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 let's think about the ways we usually spend it 18 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 that don't, in fact, make us happier. 19 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 We had a little natural experiment. 20 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 So CNN, a little while ago, wrote this interesting article 21 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 on what happens to people when they win the lottery. 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 It turns out people think when they win the lottery their lives are going to be amazing. 23 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 This article's about how their lives get ruined. 24 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 So what happens when people win the lottery 25 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,000 is, number one, they spend all the money and go into debt, 26 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 and number two, all of their friends and everyone they've ever met 27 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 find them and bug them for money. 28 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 And it ruins their social relationships, in fact. 29 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 So they have more debt and worse friendships 30 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 than they had before they won the lottery. 31 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,000 What was interesting about the article 32 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,000 was people started commenting on the article, readers of the thing. 33 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 And instead of talking about 34 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 how it had made them realize that money doesn't lead to happiness, 35 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 everyone instantly started saying, 36 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,000 "You know what I would do if I won the lottery ... ?" 37 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 and fantasizing about what they'd do. 38 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,000 And here's just two of the ones we saw that are just really interesting to think about. 39 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,000 One person wrote in, "When I win, I'm going to buy my own little mountain 40 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 and have a little house on top." 41 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 (Laughter) 42 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 And another person wrote, "I would fill a big bathtub with money 43 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 and get in the tub while smoking a big fat cigar 44 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 and sipping a glass of champagne." 45 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 This is even worse now: "Then I'd have a picture taken 46 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 and dozens of glossies made. 47 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Anyone begging for money or trying to extort from me 48 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 would receive a copy of the picture and nothing else." 49 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,000 (Laughter) 50 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 And so many of the comments were exactly of this type, 51 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 where people got money 52 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 and, in fact, it made them antisocial. 53 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,000 So I told you that it ruins people's lives and that their friends bug them. 54 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 It also, money often makes us feel very selfish 55 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 and we do things only for ourselves. 56 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Well maybe the reason that money doesn't make us happy 57 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,000 is that we're always spending it on the wrong things, 58 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 and in particular, that we're always spending it on ourselves. 59 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 And we thought, I wonder what would happen 60 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 if we made people spend more of their money on other people. 61 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 So instead of being antisocial with your money, 62 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 what if you were a little more prosocial with your money? 63 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 And we thought, let's make people do it and see what happens. 64 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 So let's have some people do what they usually do 65 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 and spend money on themselves, 66 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 and let's make some people give money away, 67 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 and measure their happiness and see if, in fact, they get happier. 68 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 So the first way that we did this. 69 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 On one Vancouver morning, we went out on the campus 70 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 at University of British Columbia 71 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 and we approached people and said, "Do you want to be in an experiment?" 72 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 They said, "Yes." 73 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,000 We asked them how happy they were, and then we gave them an envelope. 74 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 And one of the envelopes had things in it that said, 75 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 "By 5:00 pm today, spend this money on yourself." 76 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,000 So we gave some examples of what you could spend it on. 77 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Other people, in the morning, got a slip of paper that said, 78 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,000 "By 5:00 pm today, spend this money on somebody else." 79 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Also inside the envelope was money. 80 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 And we manipulated how much money we gave them. 81 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 So some people got this slip of paper and five dollars. 82 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Some people got this slip of paper and 20 dollars. 83 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 We let them go about their day. They did whatever they wanted to do. 84 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 We found out that they did in fact spend it in the way that we asked them to. 85 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 We called them up at night and asked them, 86 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 "What'd you spend it on, and how happy do you feel now?" 87 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 What did they spend it on? 88 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Well these are college undergrads, so a lot of what they spent it on for themselves 89 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 were things like earrings and makeup. 90 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 One woman said she bought a stuffed animal for her niece. 91 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 People gave money to homeless people. 92 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Huge effect here of Starbucks. 93 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 (Laughter) 94 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 So if you give undergraduates five dollars, it looks like coffee to them 95 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 and they run over to Starbucks and spend it as fast as they can. 96 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,000 But some people bought a coffee for themselves, the way they usually would, 97 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 but other people said that they bought a coffee for somebody else. 98 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,000 So the very same purchase, 99 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 just targeted toward yourself 100 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,000 or targeted toward somebody else. 101 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 What did we find when we called them back at the end of the day? 102 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 People who spent money on other people got happier. 103 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 People who spent money on themselves, nothing happened. 104 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,000 It didn't make them less happy, it just didn't do much for them. 105 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,000 And the other thing we saw is the amount of money doesn't matter that much. 106 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 So people thought that 20 dollars would be way better than five dollars. 107 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 In fact, it doesn't matter how much money you spent. 108 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 What really matters is that you spent it on somebody else 109 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 rather than on yourself. 110 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 We see this again and again 111 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 when we give people money to spend on other people instead of on themselves. 112 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Of course, these are undergraduates in Canada -- 113 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 not the world's most representative population. 114 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 They're also fairly wealthy and affluent and all these other sorts of things. 115 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 We wanted to see if this holds true everywhere in the world 116 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 or just among wealthy countries. 117 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 So we went, in fact, to Uganda and ran a very similar experiment. 118 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 So imagine, instead of just people in Canada, 119 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 we said, "Name the last time you spent money on yourself or other people. 120 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Describe it. How happy did it make you?" 121 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Or in Uganda, "Name the last time you spent money 122 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,000 on yourself or other people and describe that." 123 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 And then we asked them how happy they are again. 124 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 And what we see is sort of amazing 125 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,000 because there's human universals on what you do with your money 126 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,000 and then real cultural differences on what you do as well. 127 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 So for example, 128 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 one guy from Uganda says this. 129 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 He said, "I called a girl I wished to love." 130 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 They basically went out on a date, 131 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000 and he says at the end that he didn't "achieve" her up till now. 132 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Here's a guy from Canada. 133 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Very similar thing. 134 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 "I took my girlfriend out for dinner. 135 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 We went to a movie, we left early, 136 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,000 and then went back to her room for ... " only cake -- just a piece of cake. 137 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Human universal -- so you spend money on other people, 138 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,000 you're being nice to them. 139 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Maybe you have something in mind, maybe not. 140 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 But then we see extraordinary differences. 141 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 So look at these two. 142 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 This is a woman from Canada. 143 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 We say, "Name a time you spent money on somebody else." 144 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 She says, "I bought a present for my mom. 145 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 I drove to the mall in my car, bought a present, gave it to my mom." 146 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Perfectly nice thing to do. 147 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 It's good to get gifts for people that you know. 148 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Compare that to this woman from Uganda. 149 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 "I was walking and met a long-time friend 150 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 whose son was sick with malaria. 151 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,000 They had no money, they went to a clinic and I gave her this money." 152 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 This isn't $10,000, it's the local currency. 153 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 So it's a very small amount of money, in fact. 154 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 But enormously different motivations here. 155 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 This is a real medical need, 156 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 literally a life-saving donation. 157 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Above, it's just kind of, I bought a gift for my mother. 158 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 What we see again though 159 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 is that the specific way that you spend on other people 160 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 isn't nearly as important 161 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 as the fact that you spend on other people 162 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 in order to make yourself happy, 163 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 which is really quite important. 164 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,000 So you don't have to do amazing things with your money to make yourself happy. 165 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 You can do small, trivial things and yet still get these benefits from doing this. 166 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 These are only two countries. 167 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,000 We also wanted to go even broader and look at every country in the world if we could 168 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 to see what the relationship is between money and happiness. 169 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 We got data from the Gallup Organization, 170 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 which you know from all the political polls that have been happening lately. 171 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 They ask people, "Did you donate money to charity recently?" 172 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000 and they ask them, "How happy are you with your life in general?" 173 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 And we can see what the relationship is between those two things. 174 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Are they positively correlated? Giving money makes you happy. 175 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Or are they negatively correlated? 176 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 On this map, green will mean they're positively correlated 177 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 and red means they're negatively correlated. 178 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 And you can see, the world is crazily green. 179 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 So in almost every country in the world 180 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 where we have this data, 181 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,000 people who give money to charity are happier people 182 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 that people who don't give money to charity. 183 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 I know you're all looking at that red country in the middle. 184 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 I would be a jerk and not tell you what it is, 185 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 but in fact, it's Central African Republic. 186 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 You can make up stories. Maybe it's different there for some reason or another. 187 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Just below that to the right is Rwanda though, 188 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 which is amazingly green. 189 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 So almost everywhere we look 190 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 we see that giving money away makes you happier 191 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 than keeping it for yourself. 192 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,000 What about your work life, which is where we spend all the rest of our time 193 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 when we're not with the people we know. 194 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 We decided to infiltrate some companies and do a very similar thing. 195 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 So these are sales teams in Belgium. 196 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 They work in teams; they go out and sell to doctors 197 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 and try to get them to buy drugs. 198 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 So we can look and see how well they sell things 199 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 as a function of being a member of a team. 200 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Some teams, we give people on the team some money for themselves 201 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 and say, "Spend it however you want on yourself," 202 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 just like we did with the undergrads in Canada. 203 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 But other teams we say, "Here's 15 euro. 204 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Spend it on one of your teammates this week. 205 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Buy them something as a gift or a present and give it to them. 206 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000 And then we can see, well now we've got teams that spend on themselves 207 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 and we've got these prosocial teams 208 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 who we give money to make the team a little bit better. 209 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 The reason I have a ridiculous pinata there 210 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 is one of the teams pooled their money and bought a pinata, 211 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 and they all got around and smashed the pinata and all the candy fell out and things like that. 212 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 A very silly, trivial thing to do, 213 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 but think of the difference on a team that didn't do that at all, 214 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 that got 15 euro, put it in their pocket, 215 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 maybe bought themselves a coffee, 216 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 or teams that had this prosocial experience 217 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,000 where they all bonded together to buy something and do a group activity. 218 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 What we see is that, in fact, the teams that are prosocial sell more stuff 219 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 than the teams that only got money for themselves. 220 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 And one way to think about it 221 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 is for every 15 euro you give people for themselves, 222 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 they put it in their pocket, they don't do anything different than they did before. 223 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 You don't get any money from that. 224 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,000 You actually lose money because it doesn't motivate them to perform any better. 225 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,000 But when you give them 15 euro to spend on their teammates, 226 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 they do so much better on their teams 227 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,000 that you actually get a huge win on investing this kind of money. 228 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 And I realize that you're probably thinking to yourselves, 229 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 this is all fine, 230 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 but there's a context that's incredibly important for public policy 231 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 and I can't imagine it would work there. 232 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 And basically that if he doesn't show me that it works here, 233 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 I don't believe anything he said. 234 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 And I know what you're all thinking about are dodgeball teams. 235 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 (Laughter) 236 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 This was a huge criticism that we got 237 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,000 to say, if you can't show it with dodgeball teams, this is all stupid. 238 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 So we went out and found these dodgeball teams 239 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 and infiltrated them. 240 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 And we did the exact same thing as before. 241 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 So some teams, we give people on the team money, they spend it on themselves. 242 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Other teams, we give them money 243 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,000 to spend on their dodgeball teammates. 244 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 The teams that spend money on themselves 245 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 are just the same winning percentages as they were before. 246 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 The teams that we give the money to spend on each other, 247 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 they become different teams 248 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 and, in fact, they dominate the league by the time they're done. 249 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Across all of these different contexts -- 250 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 your personal life, you work life, 251 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 even silly things like intramural sports -- 252 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,000 we see spending on other people has a bigger return for you 253 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,000 than spending on yourself. 254 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,000 And so I'll just say, I think if you think money can't buy happiness 255 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 you're not spending it right. 256 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,000 The implication is not you should buy this product instead of that product 257 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 and that's the way to make yourself happier. 258 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 It's in fact, that you should stop thinking 259 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 about which product to buy for yourself 260 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,000 and try giving some of it to other people instead. 261 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 And we luckily have an opportunity for you. 262 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,000 DonorsChoose.org is a non-profit 263 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,000 for mainly public school teachers in low-income schools. 264 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 They post projects, 265 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 so they say, "I want to teach Huckleberry Finn to my class and we don't have the books," 266 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 or "I want a microscope to teach my students science 267 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 and we don't have a microscope." 268 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 You and I can go on and buy it for them. 269 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,000 The teacher writes you a thank you note. The kids write you a thank you note. 270 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Sometimes they send you pictures of them using the microscope. 271 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 It's an extraordinary thing. 272 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Go to the website and start yourself on the process 273 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 of thinking, again, less about "How can I spend money on myself?" 274 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 and more about "If I've got five dollars or 15 dollars, 275 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 what can I do to benefit other people?" 276 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Because ultimately when you do that, you'll find that you'll benefit yourself much more. 277 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Thank you. 278 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 (Applause)