WEBVTT 00:00:00.667 --> 00:00:02.770 So, well, I do applied math, 00:00:02.770 --> 00:00:04.294 and this is a peculiar problem 00:00:04.294 --> 00:00:06.467 for anyone who does applied math, is that 00:00:06.467 --> 00:00:08.400 we are like management consultants. 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:10.346 No one knows what the hell we do. 00:00:10.346 --> 00:00:12.620 So I am going to give you some -- attempt today 00:00:12.620 --> 00:00:14.913 to try and explain to you what I do. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:14.913 --> 00:00:18.234 So, dancing is one of the most human of activities. 00:00:18.234 --> 00:00:21.916 We delight at ballet virtuosos and tap dancers 00:00:21.916 --> 00:00:23.064 you will see later on. 00:00:23.064 --> 00:00:25.754 Now, ballet requires an extraordinary level of expertise 00:00:25.754 --> 00:00:28.668 and a high level of skill, 00:00:28.668 --> 00:00:31.199 and probably a level of initial suitability 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:33.046 that may well have a genetic component to it. 00:00:33.046 --> 00:00:36.439 Now, sadly, neurological disorders such as Parkinson's disease 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:38.526 gradually destroy this extraordinary ability, 00:00:38.526 --> 00:00:40.849 as it is doing to my friend Jan Stripling, who was 00:00:40.849 --> 00:00:43.816 a virtuoso ballet dancer in his time. 00:00:43.816 --> 00:00:46.870 So great progress and treatment has been made over the years. 00:00:46.870 --> 00:00:49.814 However, there are 6.3 million people worldwide 00:00:49.814 --> 00:00:53.262 who have the disease, and they have to live with 00:00:53.262 --> 00:00:55.830 incurable weakness, tremor, rigidity 00:00:55.830 --> 00:00:57.687 and the other symptoms that go along with the disease, 00:00:57.687 --> 00:01:00.070 so what we need are objective tools 00:01:00.070 --> 00:01:03.127 to detect the disease before it's too late. 00:01:03.127 --> 00:01:05.681 We need to be able to measure progression objectively, 00:01:05.681 --> 00:01:08.854 and ultimately, the only way we're going to know 00:01:08.854 --> 00:01:11.046 when we actually have a cure is when we have 00:01:11.046 --> 00:01:14.444 an objective measure that can answer that for sure. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:14.444 --> 00:01:17.294 But frustratingly, with Parkinson's disease 00:01:17.294 --> 00:01:19.647 and other movement disorders, there are no biomarkers, 00:01:19.647 --> 00:01:21.876 so there's no simple blood test that you can do, 00:01:21.876 --> 00:01:23.678 and the best that we have is like 00:01:23.678 --> 00:01:25.919 this 20-minute neurologist test. 00:01:25.919 --> 00:01:28.377 You have to go to the clinic to do it. It's very, very costly, 00:01:28.377 --> 00:01:31.134 and that means that, outside the clinical trials, 00:01:31.134 --> 00:01:33.862 it's just never done. It's never done. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:33.862 --> 00:01:36.939 But what if patients could do this test at home? 00:01:36.939 --> 00:01:39.037 Now, that would actually save on a difficult trip to the clinic, 00:01:39.037 --> 00:01:43.291 and what if patients could do that test themselves, right? 00:01:43.291 --> 00:01:45.211 No expensive staff time required. 00:01:45.211 --> 00:01:46.629 Takes about $300, by the way, 00:01:46.629 --> 00:01:48.622 in the neurologist's clinic to do it. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:48.622 --> 00:01:51.303 So what I want to propose to you as an unconventional way 00:01:51.303 --> 00:01:52.817 in which we can try to achieve this, 00:01:52.817 --> 00:01:54.625 because, you see, in one sense, at least, 00:01:54.625 --> 00:01:57.881 we are all virtuosos like my friend Jan Stripling. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:57.881 --> 00:02:01.636 So here we have a video of the vibrating vocal folds. 00:02:01.636 --> 00:02:04.865 Now, this is healthy and this is somebody making speech sounds, 00:02:04.865 --> 00:02:08.329 and we can think of ourselves as vocal ballet dancers, 00:02:08.329 --> 00:02:10.543 because we have to coordinate all of these vocal organs 00:02:10.543 --> 00:02:12.838 when we make sounds, and we all actually 00:02:12.838 --> 00:02:15.134 have the genes for it. FoxP2, for example. 00:02:15.134 --> 00:02:17.847 And like ballet, it takes an extraordinary level of training. 00:02:17.847 --> 00:02:20.432 I mean, just think how long it takes a child to learn to speak. 00:02:20.432 --> 00:02:22.814 From the sound, we can actually track 00:02:22.814 --> 00:02:25.095 the vocal fold position as it vibrates, 00:02:25.095 --> 00:02:27.638 and just as the limbs are affected in Parkinson's, 00:02:27.638 --> 00:02:30.419 so too are the vocal organs. 00:02:30.419 --> 00:02:32.299 So on the bottom trace, you can see an example of 00:02:32.299 --> 00:02:33.997 irregular vocal fold tremor. 00:02:33.997 --> 00:02:35.165 We see all the same symptoms. 00:02:35.165 --> 00:02:38.095 We see vocal tremor, weakness and rigidity. 00:02:38.095 --> 00:02:40.199 The speech actually becomes quieter and more breathy 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:42.432 after a while, and that's one of the example symptoms of it. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:42.432 --> 00:02:45.279 So these vocal effects can actually be quite subtle, 00:02:45.279 --> 00:02:48.495 in some cases, but with any digital microphone, 00:02:48.495 --> 00:02:51.040 and using precision voice analysis software 00:02:51.040 --> 00:02:53.449 in combination with the latest in machine learning, 00:02:53.449 --> 00:02:55.027 which is very advanced by now, 00:02:55.027 --> 00:02:57.913 we can now quantify exactly where somebody lies 00:02:57.913 --> 00:03:00.794 on a continuum between health and disease 00:03:00.794 --> 00:03:03.390 using voice signals alone. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:03.390 --> 00:03:05.704 So these voice-based tests, how do they stack up against 00:03:05.704 --> 00:03:07.854 expert clinical tests? We'll, they're both non-invasive. 00:03:07.854 --> 00:03:11.836 The neurologist's test is non-invasive. They both use existing infrastructure. 00:03:11.836 --> 00:03:14.840 You don't have to design a whole new set of hospitals to do it. 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:17.142 And they're both accurate. Okay, but in addition, 00:03:17.142 --> 00:03:20.469 voice-based tests are non-expert. 00:03:20.469 --> 00:03:22.461 That means they can be self-administered. 00:03:22.461 --> 00:03:25.041 They're high-speed, take about 30 seconds at most. 00:03:25.041 --> 00:03:27.335 They're ultra-low cost, and we all know what happens. 00:03:27.335 --> 00:03:29.775 When something becomes ultra-low cost, 00:03:29.775 --> 00:03:32.071 it becomes massively scalable. 00:03:32.071 --> 00:03:35.746 So here are some amazing goals that I think we can deal with now. 00:03:35.746 --> 00:03:38.172 We can reduce logistical difficulties with patients. 00:03:38.172 --> 00:03:40.484 No need to go to the clinic for a routine checkup. 00:03:40.484 --> 00:03:42.804 We can do high-frequency monitoring to get objective data. 00:03:42.804 --> 00:03:46.909 We can perform low-cost mass recruitment for clinical trials, 00:03:46.909 --> 00:03:49.024 and we can make population-scale screening 00:03:49.024 --> 00:03:50.620 feasible for the first time. 00:03:50.620 --> 00:03:52.822 We have the opportunity to start to search 00:03:52.822 --> 00:03:56.363 for the early biomarkers of the disease before it's too late. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:56.363 --> 00:03:59.121 So, taking the first steps towards this today, 00:03:59.121 --> 00:04:01.247 we're launching the Parkinson's Voice Initiative. 00:04:01.247 --> 00:04:03.479 With Aculab and PatientsLikeMe, we're aiming 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:05.407 to record a very large number of voices worldwide 00:04:05.407 --> 00:04:08.547 to collect enough data to start to tackle these four goals. 00:04:08.547 --> 00:04:10.247 We have local numbers accessible to three quarters 00:04:10.247 --> 00:04:11.857 of a billion people on the planet. 00:04:11.857 --> 00:04:14.934 Anyone healthy or with Parkinson's can call in, cheaply, 00:04:14.934 --> 00:04:17.073 and leave recordings, a few cents each, 00:04:17.073 --> 00:04:19.263 and I'm really happy to announce that we've already hit 00:04:19.263 --> 00:04:22.806 six percent of our target just in eight hours. 00:04:22.806 --> 00:04:26.557 Thank you. (Applause) 00:04:26.557 --> 00:04:32.877 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:04:32.877 --> 00:04:36.452 Tom Rielly: So Max, by taking all these samples of, NOTE Paragraph 00:04:36.452 --> 00:04:39.228 let's say, 10,000 people, 00:04:39.228 --> 00:04:42.082 you'll be able to tell who's healthy and who's not? 00:04:42.082 --> 00:04:43.767 What are you going to get out of those samples? NOTE Paragraph 00:04:43.767 --> 00:04:45.597 Max Little: Yeah. Yeah. So what will happen is that, 00:04:45.597 --> 00:04:47.254 during the call you have to indicate whether or not 00:04:47.254 --> 00:04:48.521 you have the disease or not, you see. TR: Right. 00:04:48.521 --> 00:04:51.028 ML: You see, some people may not do it. They may not get through it. 00:04:51.028 --> 00:04:53.745 But we'll get a very large sample of data that is collected 00:04:53.745 --> 00:04:57.153 from all different circumstances, and it's getting it 00:04:57.153 --> 00:04:59.058 in different circumstances that matter because then 00:04:59.058 --> 00:05:02.442 we are looking at ironing out the confounding factors, 00:05:02.442 --> 00:05:04.603 and looking for the actual markers of the disease. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:04.603 --> 00:05:07.100 TR: So you're 86 percent accurate right now? NOTE Paragraph 00:05:07.100 --> 00:05:08.294 ML: It's much better than that. 00:05:08.294 --> 00:05:10.014 Actually, my student Thanasis, I have to plug him, 00:05:10.014 --> 00:05:11.884 because he's done some fantastic work, 00:05:11.884 --> 00:05:15.654 and now he has proved that it works over the mobile telephone network as well, 00:05:15.654 --> 00:05:19.044 which enables this project, and we're getting 99 percent accuracy. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:19.044 --> 00:05:20.620 TR: Ninety-nine. Well, that's an improvement. 00:05:20.620 --> 00:05:22.821 So what that means is that people will be able to — 00:05:22.821 --> 00:05:24.673 ML: (Laughs) 00:05:24.673 --> 00:05:26.579 TR: People will be able to call in from their mobile phones 00:05:26.579 --> 00:05:29.651 and do this test, and people with Parkinson's could call in, 00:05:29.651 --> 00:05:32.521 record their voice, and then their doctor can check up 00:05:32.521 --> 00:05:35.202 on their progress, see where they're doing in this course of the disease. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:35.202 --> 00:05:36.172 ML: Absolutely. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:36.172 --> 00:05:37.915 TR: Thanks so much. Max Little, everybody. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:37.915 --> 00:05:43.072 ML: Thanks, Tom. (Applause)