the the the howard rheingold we're talking with Robin good about curation so on Robin I love you your series of articles I'm I'm highly recommend them I just wanted to get that directly from you a few thoughts about curation online starting with what do you think the importance in the places curation is died today from for anybody who's online I think I'll you could see it this way I'll we've reached some mild eliminate are via understanding and making sense of the information just by going out to Google typing out that query and getting listing of things that could be relevant to us I think we this is like you know I V being hungry and going to McDonalds you know it's foss food information bat I'll I want something more like when I go to a restaurant I can choose it everest an iTablet foods that quality level at the type of customer service and so on so I am looking for a new level love but accessing information whereby I'm not just trying to list and rank information but in trying to make sense of the information this is what people want more and more because one article by itself are already link or are we so sorry video sometimes is just a little Albany holding to understanding that I'll be quiet if there was some kind of intermediate layer whether don by an allegory dome or by people contributing and working with an algorithm to collect things to make sense on a certain topic I think we would be I in a you not in a position to inform and learn much faster much better than we can do now what qualities do you think I'm I a curator ought to have well is get to be somewhat OVA very curious percent and I'm passionate per se in the area outweigh wants to curate I don't think he can just go about your rating atopy because you wake up and that's something you want to do well you certainly can and gain confidence we need we time with you it would be best that you going to rate something that you're already very passionate about that you'd be exposed to so that you have some sensitivity some antennas data allow you to understand what he's good what is better because then it becomes a point of four you doing this for you just an artist's painting something for yourself or your trading something for a specific audiences trying to intercept a specific need and resolve it week that to channeled information so I would think that knowing the audience and being an expert on the topic helps someone shoe rate whatever type of the information items he has at his disposal that that setting karnicki an immense then you you gotta be very transparent and dad give full credit to whoever you are gathering in and expose actually the best buddies up the sources in people and add something of your own that he is d ultimate quality of the curator is like that one for Addie J I mean what's the difference between putting out and make state and a live DJ I think those same qualities apply somewhat to a content curator it is the ability to listen closely to what I of volumes at the moment he's serving and and providing a context so that the type of information ease or she's collecting make sense to them so you may have to change titles may take change descriptions images order how he just oppose things but you have to customize the flow for that purpose the man public you're doing that for Jordan who who you are. should come come through just to some degree your your sensibility and your your point of view aren't you not be completely suppressed when you're your jury they may be different instances any situations business why is a a sure research and information activities how he may vary our I wouldn't be so sure that all the time you'd have to bring out your personality but that there is no way that you can not somehow stand in some position cell them would be a generic position it may be a bit more I def I'm positions for those who have had it all to take political stances or research things where their opal's Inc views but again there you may be a great reader by just sending out for your position or maybe even a better curator by creating all the positions that out there and allowing people to discover which ones it's best for their money both of them are valid to me are a woman what is your advice to do to people about how to go about this and be I know %um a very detailed workflow you just someone wants to go ahead and start curating in the butt a passion for subject in some knowledge about it would out how they go about the first thing you want to do is to collect your so say risk your the places where you're going to gather that information you wanna start from some basis at these may be some blogs I some video channels says some tweet their personalities fun pages anything especially that he's capable of producing on RSS feed in is very useful for cue Radian creating channels on the information dedicated to a specific topic you you want them to become familiar with something that the ski a and technically beat for it was difficult to understand is what I call a persistent search that is the ability to set out a search for a topic and be alerted any time something comes up so that you can discover new things but you can discover also news sources for information that you may not be aware of eddie Van Ness when you bring together different sources ones you know that once you're going to discover gradually it the core part of your job is to select to pick does that really count in again to customize them personalizing for your audience for this specific communication objective yes it out for yourself with that channel or stream of the information you're creating so in the job to describe is as simple as that you you may want and to share this information to package it happened distributed in different ways but the core elements are basically does once they're so many people then just worry about a what is the tool that can do all the stuff in a simple way without needing me to know HTML RSS tags at persistent searches and so on so let me get a right to that and dat is if I were to advise a tool that I am NOT associated with commercially they think helps anyone who's in all this to get good grapes all what curating information can do when I can be done is the one you're using yourself since a few days and that's cool beat as see okie .it that's just bury simple to use free tool that allows you to aggregate fielder's church put together information even layout and publish it within a workflow that is extremely easy an almost intuitive to pick up and %uh I also likes kinda the community feature a Scooby im at the am there are people can cook can recommend sources to you and then you have a stream sources besides the ones that you gone out and and found that you can go through and you can either I'm use them you can discard them or you can say and when used as source anymore so use dream become smarter as you as you you mercury did is a tool I like a lot too yes but there are actually very many tula in de- if you recall on 2005 ahead what was the did montel the ID March or April I was in San Francisco with you on mountain time of bias we were talking for the first time in that beautiful scenery aboul what we discussed in now that he's news Gration and you with leukemia me and wondering where their that made any sense at I'm so glad that that this time has passed and it's become a reality I was Solex I did last year and in the last few months where about sixty Diff'rent corporation content curation tools have come out that created that at map you've probably seen which update every weekend and what is surprising ease now all these different areas for content curation because we study RSS curating content in news creating news Raiders as they call them specific thematic channels but now there's a universe of other possibilities that is that is DVD a curation they resell product curation these fashion duration which is fantastic go in CT said it's called police for PE ow.ly voor E and see what people can do to a team together different fashion elements like shoes & jewelry and attic gadgets and create day who radiate sets said that it really a interesting and visually appealing you so I think the horizon easy and understanding that basically anything can be curated doesn't have to be on the news you can create stuff that doesn't be doesn't have to be connected tweet their or staff detachments right at this moment me even collecting and curating what he's out there for the past I we've got into the DL situation from the beginning until now it's something useful and I think that direction of the future ease if not for Google for us to create an alternative titles Google where we can cooperatively curating information that is out there think for a moment if instead of depending of secret algorithms to decide for us what is relevant we could choose individually each one of us we charge a ranking elements we want to use or tap into your lines and the one of my friend and the other friend and create our own eco-system I'll but she rated algorithm sir curated collections have information on how to make sense of reality instead of depending of somebody or depends on profits and as clues is clue simply on its own earnings to decide what's best for us and that's absurd for me because the world s now lives in an economy the information we depend so much I needed it is not just a matter of doing a business online it's a matter of allow each I each one of us like to breathe get water to be able to access information and make some good use of it I don't know it and it and agree with these are not but to me it's a planetary question that two people should start to addressing yes that's why I think it a a fundamental literacy about duration is something that everybody ought to know about it min not just for specialists just like there are our web sites did get a lot of traffic there are too many many many web sites that may not get the huge amount of traffic but we wouldn't have the really rich eco-system online if we didn't have so many contributors so I I really like your division which YouTube resent to so enthusiastically in passionately I'm I really population of a few readers that its it's not just for the individuals is further the whole system I'm make it much much richer then than it is already yeah we want to have different points of view all week dust that mean as should you formation ranking be I on-demand fundamentalist religion because what is that I mean if there is one entity that secretly knows what is true or not isn't that religion so I don't want to depend on some religious organization to the sale what's out there and I want to be able to tap on different points of views that want to be able to contribute 12 other people understand what I have discovered and the system we have now does not allow me to do this so more and more i'm looking for people can be gateways to the information they need India's must be trusted people so we need out a Google love the people for the people I'm not me %uh individual curator's doing this for ourselves that's what we need yes this is wonderful thank you so much and and thank you for your wonderful hospitality in Rome I will never forget it and and hope to see you there again soon all right thank you I had my share my mind get it by do do do do do the