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Stern: So how do you know an idea is good enough

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if you never try it on stage?

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CK: Well, there is a few different ...

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There's some ideas I just know.
Some ideas you just go

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'cause you've been repeated 
the rhythm so many times

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being on stage and talking
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Stern: Right.

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CK: I'll have a thought and I'll go
Oh that's ju.. oh that's a bit

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Stern: 'Cause you know it from 
all the years of doing it ?

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Yeah you just know

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and then there's other bit things where I go

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I don't think anyone would ever like this.

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This actually might be troubling
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I wanna try it anyway.

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Stern: Give me an example, if
you could think of one,

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where you said to yourself this could be really good

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but troubling to the crowd and then you got up

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and it just totally--

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like the crowd was just disturbed by it.

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Like, I'm pretty sure my crowd was disturbed

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by Richard's bestiality brackets.

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[CK laughing]

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Stern: Don't you think--

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What are you thinking about now

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that can possibly go wrong, or did in the past?

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CK: These days, well, I don't 
know about these days, uh,

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I mean I had one bit that never quite made it

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'cause I didn't -- and I could've made it work.

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Stern: Because you were having a dark thought?

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CK: Yeah.

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Stern: It was dark?

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CK: Yeah.

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Stern: What was this dark thought?

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CK: Well last year, I think I did
this on the show actually,

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on the series. I think I put it in there.

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But it was a thing about, uh, you know

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people hate child molesters so much.

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They hate them worse than murderers

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or anybody else.

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Stern: Right, right.

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CK: So getting caught child 
molesting is just,

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that's the end.

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Stern: That's the worse.

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CK: It's really the end of your life in every way.

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Stern: That's right.

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CK: Whatever you had is gone.

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Right, so uh, that's why a lot of kids

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that get molested get killed.

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'Cause whatever got you to the moment

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where you molested a kid,

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once you hit that moment,

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you're like, "I can't let this kid go now,

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'cause I'm fucked if this kid

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goes home and tells anybody."

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So you kill the kid.

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So the bit was that if we could hate child

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molesting a little less,

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we might get some kids back.

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[laughing]

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Stern: That is a brilliant thought.

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CK: If somebody could go,

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[laughing]

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say to themselves, "Alright I've
molested--"

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You know, someone could call you and go,

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"Hey, I molested your kid.

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Do you want him back after soccer?

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Do you want me to drop him off
after his game?

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Does he have any allergies I 
should know about?"

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Stern: So, we're hurting children by

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hating child molesters so much.

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CK: That's right. Well, I wasn't able to

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come to that conclusion.

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The way I made the bit work, for me,

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and made it palpable for some audiences,

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like 20%, was to say,

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"I don't -- that what I just said is true,

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that if we hated child molesters less,

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less children would die.

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I don't know what to do
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[laughing]

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Stern: Like you don't know where to go.

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CK: I don't know what to do with it.

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Stern: You came to the right place today.

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Yeah, this is the place to air those

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kinds of thoughts. Wow.

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CK: So that was a bit where I thought--

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Stern: Maybe the bit was you

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starting a group. I dont, I don't know.

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[laughing]

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CK: When I hit that moment

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when I had that thought,

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I thought, "I'm fucked,

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because I know that's funny

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and people are gonna get upset."

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But I had to do it.

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Stern: But yeah, you have to do that

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because it's so great.

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CK: It's a smart, fun thing to say,

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and I know I'm gonna upset some people

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but I'm gonna go ahead and do it.

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Stern: To me, one of the most

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brilliant hours of stand up

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was when I heard Chris Rock

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do that -- I forget what the special was called

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on HBO but it was all about, you know,

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race issues and, um, black people who,

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uh books were like kryptonite --

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I mean it was the darkest fucking

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most like honest appraisal of everything.

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But I mean, I bet you there was a time

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where he went, "Man, I even don't know

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if I can do this stuff."

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CK: Well the thing is,

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you have to with all comedy,

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you have to be willing to fail

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to get something to work.

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And a lot of bits that I've done

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have started off bombing,

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like when I started doing that bit,

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people'd just go "Oh."

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Not even like, uh -- just the bottom

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would drop out of the room,

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it's a bad feeling.

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Stern: Afraid to laugh.

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CK: Yes, just, "Oh no" and 
like murmuring, "Oh my goodness."

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Woman: And then they don't know what to
think of the rest of your material.

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CK: No, and then you lose credibility
with the audience,

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and then you get a film of sweat,

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and you go, "Here I am, and I just said
this shit, and I'm gonna try to save it."

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But if you repeat that a few times, if you're

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willing to do that, the bit gets stronger
and stronger, and you find ways

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to make it work for people.

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Stern: Yeah, man, oh my God. 
That's just so great.