WEBVTT 00:00:00.466 --> 00:00:02.563 Four years ago today, exactly, actually, 00:00:02.563 --> 00:00:05.659 I started a fashion blog called Style Rookie. 00:00:05.659 --> 00:00:09.779 Last September of 2011, I started an online magazine 00:00:09.779 --> 00:00:13.654 for teenage girls called Rookiemag.com. 00:00:13.654 --> 00:00:17.845 My name's Tavi Gevinson, and 00:00:17.845 --> 00:00:20.985 the title of my talk is "Still Figuring It Out," 00:00:20.985 --> 00:00:23.232 and the MS Paint quality of my slides 00:00:23.232 --> 00:00:26.544 was a total creative decision in keeping with today's theme, 00:00:26.544 --> 00:00:28.160 and has nothing to do with my inability 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:31.505 to use PowerPoint. (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:00:31.505 --> 00:00:36.065 So I edit this site for teenage girls. I'm a feminist. 00:00:36.065 --> 00:00:38.936 I am kind of a pop culture nerd, and I think a lot about 00:00:38.936 --> 00:00:41.352 what makes a strong female character, 00:00:41.352 --> 00:00:43.440 and, you know, movies and TV shows, 00:00:43.440 --> 00:00:47.706 these things have influence. My own website. 00:00:47.706 --> 00:00:50.497 So I think the question of what makes a strong female 00:00:50.497 --> 00:00:52.874 character often goes misinterpreted, 00:00:52.874 --> 00:00:56.167 and instead we get these two-dimensional superwomen 00:00:56.167 --> 00:00:59.759 who maybe have one quality that's played up a lot, 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:02.352 like a Catwoman type, 00:01:02.352 --> 00:01:06.230 or she plays her sexuality up a lot, 00:01:06.230 --> 00:01:07.422 and it's seen as power. 00:01:07.422 --> 00:01:10.821 But they're not strong characters who happen to be female. 00:01:10.821 --> 00:01:12.549 They're completely flat, 00:01:12.549 --> 00:01:15.033 and they're basically cardboard characters. 00:01:15.033 --> 00:01:16.850 The problem with this is that then 00:01:16.866 --> 00:01:20.712 people expect women to be that easy to understand, 00:01:20.712 --> 00:01:23.039 and women are mad at themselves 00:01:23.039 --> 00:01:24.381 for not being that simple, 00:01:24.381 --> 00:01:27.338 when, in actuality, women are complicated, 00:01:27.338 --> 00:01:30.736 women are multifaceted -- not because women are crazy, 00:01:30.736 --> 00:01:32.488 but because people are crazy, 00:01:32.488 --> 00:01:36.150 and women happen to be people. (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:01:36.150 --> 00:01:38.420 So the flaws are the key. 00:01:38.435 --> 00:01:40.278 I'm not the first person to say this. 00:01:40.278 --> 00:01:42.326 What makes a strong female character 00:01:42.326 --> 00:01:47.230 is a character who has weaknesses, who has flaws, 00:01:47.230 --> 00:01:49.214 who is maybe not immediately likable, 00:01:49.214 --> 00:01:51.676 but eventually relatable. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:51.676 --> 00:01:53.145 I don't like to acknowledge a problem 00:01:53.145 --> 00:01:55.811 without also acknowledging those who work to fix it, 00:01:55.811 --> 00:01:58.878 so just wanted to acknowledge shows like "Mad Men," 00:01:58.878 --> 00:02:01.758 movies like "Bridesmaids," whose female characters 00:02:01.758 --> 00:02:05.889 or protagonists are complex, multifaceted. 00:02:05.889 --> 00:02:10.105 Lena Dunham, who's on here, her show on HBO 00:02:10.105 --> 00:02:12.296 that premiers next month, "Girls," 00:02:12.296 --> 00:02:14.813 she said she wanted to start it because she felt that 00:02:14.813 --> 00:02:17.801 every woman she knew was just a bundle of contradictions, 00:02:17.801 --> 00:02:20.009 and that feels accurate for all people, 00:02:20.009 --> 00:02:22.673 but you don't see women represented like that as much. 00:02:22.673 --> 00:02:26.257 Congrats, guys. (Laughs) NOTE Paragraph 00:02:26.257 --> 00:02:29.960 But I don't feel that — I still feel that there are some types 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:32.496 of women who are not represented that way, 00:02:32.496 --> 00:02:34.952 and one group that we'll focus on today are teens, 00:02:34.952 --> 00:02:38.232 because I think teenagers are especially contradictory 00:02:38.232 --> 00:02:41.272 and still figuring it out, 00:02:41.272 --> 00:02:44.621 and in the '90s there was "Freaks and Geeks" 00:02:44.621 --> 00:02:47.400 and "My So-Called Life," and their characters, 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:50.056 Lindsay Weir and Angela Chase, 00:02:50.056 --> 00:02:52.744 I mean, the whole premise of the shows 00:02:52.744 --> 00:02:56.190 were just them trying to figure themselves out, basically, 00:02:56.190 --> 00:02:59.288 but those shows only lasted a season each, 00:02:59.288 --> 00:03:04.250 and I haven't really seen anything like that on TV since. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:04.250 --> 00:03:10.636 So this is a scientific diagram of my brain — (Laughter) — 00:03:10.636 --> 00:03:12.093 around the time when I was, 00:03:12.108 --> 00:03:14.750 when I started watching those TV shows. 00:03:14.750 --> 00:03:16.945 I was ending middle school, starting high school -- 00:03:16.945 --> 00:03:19.209 I'm a sophomore now — 00:03:19.209 --> 00:03:21.965 and I was trying to reconcile 00:03:21.965 --> 00:03:24.624 all of these differences that you're told you can't be 00:03:24.624 --> 00:03:25.971 when you're growing up as a girl. 00:03:25.971 --> 00:03:28.591 You can't be smart and pretty. 00:03:28.591 --> 00:03:31.414 You can't be a feminist who's also interested in fashion. 00:03:31.414 --> 00:03:35.308 You can't care about clothes if it's not for the sake 00:03:35.308 --> 00:03:38.341 of what other people, usually men, will think of you. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:38.341 --> 00:03:41.312 So I was trying to figure all that out, 00:03:41.312 --> 00:03:44.613 and I felt a little confused, 00:03:44.613 --> 00:03:46.355 and I said so on my blog, 00:03:46.355 --> 00:03:50.540 and I said that I wanted to start 00:03:50.540 --> 00:03:53.044 a website for teenage girls 00:03:53.044 --> 00:03:56.482 that was not this kind of one-dimensional 00:03:56.482 --> 00:03:59.186 strong character empowerment thing 00:03:59.186 --> 00:04:02.176 because I think one thing that can be very alienating 00:04:02.176 --> 00:04:04.808 about a misconception of feminism is that 00:04:04.808 --> 00:04:08.403 girls then think that to be a feminist, they have to live up to 00:04:08.403 --> 00:04:10.894 being perfectly consistent in your beliefs, 00:04:10.894 --> 00:04:14.305 never being insecure, never having doubts, 00:04:14.305 --> 00:04:17.207 having all of the answers. And this is not true, 00:04:17.207 --> 00:04:21.260 and, actually, reconciling all the contradictions I was feeling 00:04:21.260 --> 00:04:25.003 became easier once I understood that feminism 00:04:25.019 --> 00:04:27.206 was not a rulebook but a discussion, 00:04:27.206 --> 00:04:29.330 a conversation, a process, 00:04:29.330 --> 00:04:32.501 and this is a spread from a zine that I made last year 00:04:32.501 --> 00:04:35.851 when I -- I mean, I think I've let myself go a bit 00:04:35.851 --> 00:04:37.954 on the illustration front since. 00:04:37.954 --> 00:04:41.928 But, yeah. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:41.944 --> 00:04:46.343 So I said on my blog that I wanted to start this publication 00:04:46.343 --> 00:04:48.832 for teenage girls and ask people to submit 00:04:48.832 --> 00:04:50.937 their writing, their photography, whatever, 00:04:50.952 --> 00:04:52.603 to be a member of our staff. 00:04:52.603 --> 00:04:55.527 I got about 3,000 emails. 00:04:55.527 --> 00:04:58.199 My editorial director and I went through them and 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:01.202 put together a staff of people, 00:05:01.202 --> 00:05:03.802 and we launched last September. 00:05:03.802 --> 00:05:06.157 And this is an excerpt from my first editor's letter, 00:05:06.157 --> 00:05:09.511 where I say that Rookie, we don't have all the answers, 00:05:09.511 --> 00:05:12.240 we're still figuring it out too, but the point is not to 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:16.199 give girls the answers, and not even give them permission 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.773 to find the answers themselves, 00:05:18.773 --> 00:05:20.941 but hopefully inspire them to understand that 00:05:20.941 --> 00:05:22.664 they can give themselves that permission, 00:05:22.664 --> 00:05:25.548 they can ask their own questions, find their own answers, 00:05:25.548 --> 00:05:28.299 all of that, and Rookie, I think we've been trying to make it 00:05:28.299 --> 00:05:33.642 a nice place for all of that to be figured out. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:33.642 --> 00:05:35.577 So I'm not saying, "Be like us," 00:05:35.577 --> 00:05:37.945 and "We're perfect role models," because we're not, 00:05:37.945 --> 00:05:43.057 but we just want to help represent girls 00:05:43.057 --> 00:05:46.078 in a way that shows those different dimensions. 00:05:46.078 --> 00:05:49.872 I mean, we have articles called 00:05:49.872 --> 00:05:53.054 "On Taking Yourself Seriously: How to Not Care What People Think of You," 00:05:53.054 --> 00:05:55.021 but we also have articles like, 00:05:55.021 --> 00:05:58.982 oops -- I'm figuring it out! 00:05:58.982 --> 00:06:01.508 Ha ha. (Laughter) 00:06:01.508 --> 00:06:05.306 If you use that, you can get away with anything. 00:06:05.306 --> 00:06:06.497 We also have articles called 00:06:06.497 --> 00:06:10.003 "How to Look Like You Weren't Just Crying in Less than Five Minutes." NOTE Paragraph 00:06:10.003 --> 00:06:13.036 So all of that being said, I still really appreciate 00:06:13.036 --> 00:06:17.003 those characters in movies and 00:06:17.003 --> 00:06:18.816 articles like that on our site, 00:06:18.816 --> 00:06:22.059 that aren't just about being totally powerful, 00:06:22.059 --> 00:06:25.109 maybe finding your acceptance with yourself 00:06:25.109 --> 00:06:30.668 and self-esteem and your flaws and how you accept those. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:30.668 --> 00:06:34.286 So what I you to take away from my talk, 00:06:34.286 --> 00:06:38.508 the lesson of all of this, is to just be Stevie Nicks. 00:06:38.508 --> 00:06:41.882 Like, that's all you have to do. (Laughter) 00:06:41.882 --> 00:06:44.761 Because my favorite thing about her, 00:06:44.761 --> 00:06:47.821 other than, like, everything, is that 00:06:47.821 --> 00:06:50.229 she is very -- has always been 00:06:50.229 --> 00:06:53.134 unapologetically present on stage, 00:06:53.134 --> 00:06:55.941 and unapologetic about her flaws 00:06:55.941 --> 00:07:00.079 and about reconciling all of her contradictory feelings 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.671 and she makes you listen to them and think about them, 00:07:03.671 --> 00:07:05.053 and yeah, so please be Stevie Nicks. 00:07:05.053 --> 00:07:10.151 Thank you. (Applause)