1 00:00:00,466 --> 00:00:02,563 Four years ago today, exactly, actually, 2 00:00:02,563 --> 00:00:05,659 I started a fashion blog called Style Rookie. 3 00:00:05,659 --> 00:00:09,779 Last September of 2011, I started an online magazine 4 00:00:09,779 --> 00:00:13,654 for teenage girls called Rookiemag.com. 5 00:00:13,654 --> 00:00:17,845 My name's Tavi Gevinson, and 6 00:00:17,845 --> 00:00:20,985 the title of my talk is "Still Figuring It Out," 7 00:00:20,985 --> 00:00:23,232 and the MS Paint quality of my slides 8 00:00:23,232 --> 00:00:26,544 was a total creative decision in keeping with today's theme, 9 00:00:26,544 --> 00:00:28,160 and has nothing to do with my inability 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,505 to use PowerPoint. (Laughter) 11 00:00:31,505 --> 00:00:36,065 So I edit this site for teenage girls. I'm a feminist. 12 00:00:36,065 --> 00:00:38,936 I am kind of a pop culture nerd, and I think a lot about 13 00:00:38,936 --> 00:00:41,352 what makes a strong female character, 14 00:00:41,352 --> 00:00:43,440 and, you know, movies and TV shows, 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,706 these things have influence. My own website. 16 00:00:47,706 --> 00:00:50,497 So I think the question of what makes a strong female 17 00:00:50,497 --> 00:00:52,874 character often goes misinterpreted, 18 00:00:52,874 --> 00:00:56,167 and instead we get these two-dimensional superwomen 19 00:00:56,167 --> 00:00:59,759 who maybe have one quality that's played up a lot, 20 00:00:59,759 --> 00:01:02,352 like a Catwoman type, 21 00:01:02,352 --> 00:01:06,230 or she plays her sexuality up a lot, 22 00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:07,422 and it's seen as power. 23 00:01:07,422 --> 00:01:10,821 But they're not strong characters who happen to be female. 24 00:01:10,821 --> 00:01:12,549 They're completely flat, 25 00:01:12,549 --> 00:01:15,033 and they're basically cardboard characters. 26 00:01:15,033 --> 00:01:16,850 The problem with this is that then 27 00:01:16,866 --> 00:01:20,712 people expect women to be that easy to understand, 28 00:01:20,712 --> 00:01:23,039 and women are mad at themselves 29 00:01:23,039 --> 00:01:24,381 for not being that simple, 30 00:01:24,381 --> 00:01:27,338 when, in actuality, women are complicated, 31 00:01:27,338 --> 00:01:30,736 women are multifaceted -- not because women are crazy, 32 00:01:30,736 --> 00:01:32,488 but because people are crazy, 33 00:01:32,488 --> 00:01:36,150 and women happen to be people. (Laughter) 34 00:01:36,150 --> 00:01:38,420 So the flaws are the key. 35 00:01:38,435 --> 00:01:40,278 I'm not the first person to say this. 36 00:01:40,278 --> 00:01:42,326 What makes a strong female character 37 00:01:42,326 --> 00:01:47,230 is a character who has weaknesses, who has flaws, 38 00:01:47,230 --> 00:01:49,214 who is maybe not immediately likable, 39 00:01:49,214 --> 00:01:51,676 but eventually relatable. 40 00:01:51,676 --> 00:01:53,145 I don't like to acknowledge a problem 41 00:01:53,145 --> 00:01:55,811 without also acknowledging those who work to fix it, 42 00:01:55,811 --> 00:01:58,878 so just wanted to acknowledge shows like "Mad Men," 43 00:01:58,878 --> 00:02:01,758 movies like "Bridesmaids," whose female characters 44 00:02:01,758 --> 00:02:05,889 or protagonists are complex, multifaceted. 45 00:02:05,889 --> 00:02:10,105 Lena Dunham, who's on here, her show on HBO 46 00:02:10,105 --> 00:02:12,296 that premiers next month, "Girls," 47 00:02:12,296 --> 00:02:14,813 she said she wanted to start it because she felt that 48 00:02:14,813 --> 00:02:17,801 every woman she knew was just a bundle of contradictions, 49 00:02:17,801 --> 00:02:20,009 and that feels accurate for all people, 50 00:02:20,009 --> 00:02:22,673 but you don't see women represented like that as much. 51 00:02:22,673 --> 00:02:26,257 Congrats, guys. (Laughs) 52 00:02:26,257 --> 00:02:29,960 But I don't feel that — I still feel that there are some types 53 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,496 of women who are not represented that way, 54 00:02:32,496 --> 00:02:34,952 and one group that we'll focus on today are teens, 55 00:02:34,952 --> 00:02:38,232 because I think teenagers are especially contradictory 56 00:02:38,232 --> 00:02:41,272 and still figuring it out, 57 00:02:41,272 --> 00:02:44,621 and in the '90s there was "Freaks and Geeks" 58 00:02:44,621 --> 00:02:47,400 and "My So-Called Life," and their characters, 59 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,056 Lindsay Weir and Angela Chase, 60 00:02:50,056 --> 00:02:52,744 I mean, the whole premise of the shows 61 00:02:52,744 --> 00:02:56,190 were just them trying to figure themselves out, basically, 62 00:02:56,190 --> 00:02:59,288 but those shows only lasted a season each, 63 00:02:59,288 --> 00:03:04,250 and I haven't really seen anything like that on TV since. 64 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:10,636 So this is a scientific diagram of my brain — (Laughter) — 65 00:03:10,636 --> 00:03:12,093 around the time when I was, 66 00:03:12,108 --> 00:03:14,750 when I started watching those TV shows. 67 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:16,945 I was ending middle school, starting high school -- 68 00:03:16,945 --> 00:03:19,209 I'm a sophomore now — 69 00:03:19,209 --> 00:03:21,965 and I was trying to reconcile 70 00:03:21,965 --> 00:03:24,624 all of these differences that you're told you can't be 71 00:03:24,624 --> 00:03:25,971 when you're growing up as a girl. 72 00:03:25,971 --> 00:03:28,591 You can't be smart and pretty. 73 00:03:28,591 --> 00:03:31,414 You can't be a feminist who's also interested in fashion. 74 00:03:31,414 --> 00:03:35,308 You can't care about clothes if it's not for the sake 75 00:03:35,308 --> 00:03:38,341 of what other people, usually men, will think of you. 76 00:03:38,341 --> 00:03:41,312 So I was trying to figure all that out, 77 00:03:41,312 --> 00:03:44,613 and I felt a little confused, 78 00:03:44,613 --> 00:03:46,355 and I said so on my blog, 79 00:03:46,355 --> 00:03:50,540 and I said that I wanted to start 80 00:03:50,540 --> 00:03:53,044 a website for teenage girls 81 00:03:53,044 --> 00:03:56,482 that was not this kind of one-dimensional 82 00:03:56,482 --> 00:03:59,186 strong character empowerment thing 83 00:03:59,186 --> 00:04:02,176 because I think one thing that can be very alienating 84 00:04:02,176 --> 00:04:04,808 about a misconception of feminism is that 85 00:04:04,808 --> 00:04:08,403 girls then think that to be a feminist, they have to live up to 86 00:04:08,403 --> 00:04:10,894 being perfectly consistent in your beliefs, 87 00:04:10,894 --> 00:04:14,305 never being insecure, never having doubts, 88 00:04:14,305 --> 00:04:17,207 having all of the answers. And this is not true, 89 00:04:17,207 --> 00:04:21,260 and, actually, reconciling all the contradictions I was feeling 90 00:04:21,260 --> 00:04:25,003 became easier once I understood that feminism 91 00:04:25,019 --> 00:04:27,206 was not a rulebook but a discussion, 92 00:04:27,206 --> 00:04:29,330 a conversation, a process, 93 00:04:29,330 --> 00:04:32,501 and this is a spread from a zine that I made last year 94 00:04:32,501 --> 00:04:35,851 when I -- I mean, I think I've let myself go a bit 95 00:04:35,851 --> 00:04:37,954 on the illustration front since. 96 00:04:37,954 --> 00:04:41,928 But, yeah. 97 00:04:41,944 --> 00:04:46,343 So I said on my blog that I wanted to start this publication 98 00:04:46,343 --> 00:04:48,832 for teenage girls and ask people to submit 99 00:04:48,832 --> 00:04:50,937 their writing, their photography, whatever, 100 00:04:50,952 --> 00:04:52,603 to be a member of our staff. 101 00:04:52,603 --> 00:04:55,527 I got about 3,000 emails. 102 00:04:55,527 --> 00:04:58,199 My editorial director and I went through them and 103 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:01,202 put together a staff of people, 104 00:05:01,202 --> 00:05:03,802 and we launched last September. 105 00:05:03,802 --> 00:05:06,157 And this is an excerpt from my first editor's letter, 106 00:05:06,157 --> 00:05:09,511 where I say that Rookie, we don't have all the answers, 107 00:05:09,511 --> 00:05:12,240 we're still figuring it out too, but the point is not to 108 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,199 give girls the answers, and not even give them permission 109 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:18,773 to find the answers themselves, 110 00:05:18,773 --> 00:05:20,941 but hopefully inspire them to understand that 111 00:05:20,941 --> 00:05:22,664 they can give themselves that permission, 112 00:05:22,664 --> 00:05:25,548 they can ask their own questions, find their own answers, 113 00:05:25,548 --> 00:05:28,299 all of that, and Rookie, I think we've been trying to make it 114 00:05:28,299 --> 00:05:33,642 a nice place for all of that to be figured out. 115 00:05:33,642 --> 00:05:35,577 So I'm not saying, "Be like us," 116 00:05:35,577 --> 00:05:37,945 and "We're perfect role models," because we're not, 117 00:05:37,945 --> 00:05:43,057 but we just want to help represent girls 118 00:05:43,057 --> 00:05:46,078 in a way that shows those different dimensions. 119 00:05:46,078 --> 00:05:49,872 I mean, we have articles called 120 00:05:49,872 --> 00:05:53,054 "On Taking Yourself Seriously: How to Not Care What People Think of You," 121 00:05:53,054 --> 00:05:55,021 but we also have articles like, 122 00:05:55,021 --> 00:05:58,982 oops -- I'm figuring it out! 123 00:05:58,982 --> 00:06:01,508 Ha ha. (Laughter) 124 00:06:01,508 --> 00:06:05,306 If you use that, you can get away with anything. 125 00:06:05,306 --> 00:06:06,497 We also have articles called 126 00:06:06,497 --> 00:06:10,003 "How to Look Like You Weren't Just Crying in Less than Five Minutes." 127 00:06:10,003 --> 00:06:13,036 So all of that being said, I still really appreciate 128 00:06:13,036 --> 00:06:17,003 those characters in movies and 129 00:06:17,003 --> 00:06:18,816 articles like that on our site, 130 00:06:18,816 --> 00:06:22,059 that aren't just about being totally powerful, 131 00:06:22,059 --> 00:06:25,109 maybe finding your acceptance with yourself 132 00:06:25,109 --> 00:06:30,668 and self-esteem and your flaws and how you accept those. 133 00:06:30,668 --> 00:06:34,286 So what I you to take away from my talk, 134 00:06:34,286 --> 00:06:38,508 the lesson of all of this, is to just be Stevie Nicks. 135 00:06:38,508 --> 00:06:41,882 Like, that's all you have to do. (Laughter) 136 00:06:41,882 --> 00:06:44,761 Because my favorite thing about her, 137 00:06:44,761 --> 00:06:47,821 other than, like, everything, is that 138 00:06:47,821 --> 00:06:50,229 she is very -- has always been 139 00:06:50,229 --> 00:06:53,134 unapologetically present on stage, 140 00:06:53,134 --> 00:06:55,941 and unapologetic about her flaws 141 00:06:55,941 --> 00:07:00,079 and about reconciling all of her contradictory feelings 142 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:03,671 and she makes you listen to them and think about them, 143 00:07:03,671 --> 00:07:05,053 and yeah, so please be Stevie Nicks. 144 00:07:05,053 --> 00:07:10,151 Thank you. (Applause)