1 00:00:10,690 --> 00:00:14,310 I had quite a normal life till I was 20. 2 00:00:14,770 --> 00:00:16,879 I was a good student, 3 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:19,999 and I studied economics. 4 00:00:20,229 --> 00:00:23,234 And then I made a radical choice. 5 00:00:24,504 --> 00:00:26,486 I became a nurse. 6 00:00:27,666 --> 00:00:30,045 I've got my wings, 7 00:00:31,255 --> 00:00:33,828 but as a nurse, as a male nurse, 8 00:00:33,828 --> 00:00:36,323 as I hope you can see, 9 00:00:38,093 --> 00:00:40,994 I worked the rest of my life 10 00:00:40,994 --> 00:00:42,274 with a lot of women, 11 00:00:42,274 --> 00:00:46,491 and I saw it as something very positive. 12 00:00:46,491 --> 00:00:48,621 I learned a lot from it. 13 00:00:49,651 --> 00:00:52,115 I worked for many years in a hospital, 14 00:00:52,685 --> 00:00:57,215 and after that I started to work as a district nurse in a community. 15 00:00:57,551 --> 00:01:00,541 And this was the most beautiful part of my life 16 00:01:00,541 --> 00:01:05,428 because I learned how to deal with all kind of problems in the community. 17 00:01:05,780 --> 00:01:09,874 And I had colleagues in the same village I worked, 18 00:01:09,874 --> 00:01:13,239 and together, we solved all the problems we met. 19 00:01:13,649 --> 00:01:15,285 There was not a big organization, 20 00:01:15,285 --> 00:01:19,965 it was just a team of nurses who organized the work themselves. 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,978 We took care for patients who were terminally ill, 22 00:01:24,238 --> 00:01:26,489 patients with dementia, 23 00:01:26,829 --> 00:01:29,358 people who were discharged from hospital, 24 00:01:29,498 --> 00:01:31,938 and there was a big variety of activities. 25 00:01:31,938 --> 00:01:33,903 We also took care for little children. 26 00:01:34,403 --> 00:01:39,202 So it was in that period, the most healthy job you can get. 27 00:01:39,918 --> 00:01:45,658 And we also built support systems in the community. 28 00:01:46,141 --> 00:01:49,271 It was a very inspiring job, 29 00:01:49,751 --> 00:01:54,051 and I enjoyed it very much till 1993 30 00:01:54,051 --> 00:01:56,497 in Holland we got a big disaster 31 00:01:56,497 --> 00:01:59,286 because the politicians discussed 32 00:01:59,286 --> 00:02:03,836 that community care should become more professionalized. 33 00:02:04,108 --> 00:02:06,132 And what I meant by that 34 00:02:06,132 --> 00:02:11,462 was that it should become - it should be part of a bigger organization 35 00:02:11,642 --> 00:02:13,962 managed by managers 36 00:02:14,202 --> 00:02:18,358 and organized not focusing on solutions for people 37 00:02:18,358 --> 00:02:20,758 but delivering products. 38 00:02:21,801 --> 00:02:24,391 For the nurses, it looked like this: 39 00:02:25,241 --> 00:02:27,884 Instead of thinking helping patients, 40 00:02:27,884 --> 00:02:31,524 they had to think: What kind of products should I deliver? 41 00:02:31,766 --> 00:02:34,426 We had personal care, personal care extra, 42 00:02:34,426 --> 00:02:36,412 personal care special. 43 00:02:36,412 --> 00:02:40,572 We had nursing care, nursing care extra, nursing care special. 44 00:02:40,955 --> 00:02:45,125 And all theses nurses got disturbed by thinking: 45 00:02:45,125 --> 00:02:50,795 What kind of activities should I give, and how should I code it? 46 00:02:50,795 --> 00:02:52,965 Because there were a lot of codes. 47 00:02:53,913 --> 00:02:58,433 For patients, it was also even a bigger disaster 48 00:02:58,806 --> 00:03:02,053 because for every task, they got someone else, 49 00:03:02,053 --> 00:03:05,292 and there were sometimes people with dementia 50 00:03:05,292 --> 00:03:11,212 who got 30 to 40 different people coming into their house in one month. 51 00:03:11,212 --> 00:03:12,310 And can you imagine 52 00:03:12,310 --> 00:03:16,860 that every time you have to tell again what the situation is 53 00:03:16,860 --> 00:03:19,360 and how you want to live your life? 54 00:03:19,538 --> 00:03:22,541 So both nurses and patients 55 00:03:22,541 --> 00:03:26,891 were very, very dissatisfied about how things were going. 56 00:03:27,117 --> 00:03:32,357 The same time, it looked more and more like factories, the care organizations, 57 00:03:32,357 --> 00:03:35,252 and I see it in a lot of countries happening. 58 00:03:35,252 --> 00:03:37,245 So you saw that all the things 59 00:03:37,245 --> 00:03:40,665 that were developed in industries and companies, 60 00:03:40,665 --> 00:03:42,379 they were also in the organizations, 61 00:03:42,379 --> 00:03:47,703 and you saw that more and more managers were taking over the profession. 62 00:03:48,178 --> 00:03:50,451 So what you saw was that 63 00:03:50,451 --> 00:03:54,881 there was more and more management layers in the organizations: 64 00:03:54,881 --> 00:03:58,588 a CEO, directors, managers, 65 00:03:58,588 --> 00:04:03,488 and they almost forgot that there were also employees. 66 00:04:03,488 --> 00:04:05,692 And it can be done so much differently 67 00:04:05,692 --> 00:04:09,114 as you can see in the other side of the slide. 68 00:04:09,874 --> 00:04:16,674 The consequences, they were very different than the politicians expected. 69 00:04:17,044 --> 00:04:20,819 Because the expected that by organizing this way, 70 00:04:20,819 --> 00:04:23,676 the costs would go down and the quality would go up. 71 00:04:23,676 --> 00:04:27,210 They also had market incentives. 72 00:04:27,348 --> 00:04:30,920 But what you saw is that the opposite happened. 73 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,221 The quality went down dramatically 74 00:04:33,221 --> 00:04:37,013 because of the many people who were involved with every patient, 75 00:04:37,013 --> 00:04:40,811 and the costs doubled in 10 years. 76 00:04:40,971 --> 00:04:45,741 So the assumption of the politicians was quite wrong. 77 00:04:45,741 --> 00:04:49,636 But what you saw was that the people who paid us 78 00:04:49,636 --> 00:04:52,830 were even more focusing on efficiency. 79 00:04:52,830 --> 00:04:57,066 So for example, when a nurse took 10 minutes longer 80 00:04:57,066 --> 00:04:58,834 for travelling to a patient, 81 00:04:58,834 --> 00:05:02,732 she had to explain that to her manager, why she did that. 82 00:05:04,312 --> 00:05:10,468 In 2006, some friends and myself, we thought it's time for a change. 83 00:05:10,468 --> 00:05:14,208 I had been director for a few years in a few organizations, 84 00:05:14,208 --> 00:05:17,123 and I saw that it could be done very differently. 85 00:05:17,123 --> 00:05:22,301 And our ideas was to change the healthcare in Holland 86 00:05:22,301 --> 00:05:23,874 and to start a movement to show 87 00:05:23,874 --> 00:05:27,146 that elderly care could be done much better, 88 00:05:27,146 --> 00:05:28,265 based on trust 89 00:05:28,265 --> 00:05:30,284 and based on self-organization. 90 00:05:30,504 --> 00:05:35,376 So the principles I worked myself with in the '80s, 91 00:05:35,376 --> 00:05:39,917 we took them again as the basic principles for our organization. 92 00:05:40,237 --> 00:05:46,648 And for four nurses in 2007, we grew to 9000 nurses in 2015. 93 00:05:47,458 --> 00:05:50,057 And it just happened by itself. 94 00:05:50,337 --> 00:05:53,727 The first year, 2007, it was some kind of experiment. 95 00:05:53,727 --> 00:05:56,529 So we started in 10 locations, 96 00:05:56,691 --> 00:05:58,994 and every time happened the same: 97 00:05:58,994 --> 00:06:03,464 we got nurses who just developed their networks in the community; 98 00:06:03,464 --> 00:06:08,168 they started to work again on the same principles we did in the '80s, 99 00:06:08,168 --> 00:06:10,321 and within a few months, 100 00:06:10,321 --> 00:06:13,889 they had got their patients, and they covered their costs. 101 00:06:13,889 --> 00:06:16,444 So there was no financial problem. 102 00:06:16,924 --> 00:06:18,694 So from 2008, 103 00:06:18,694 --> 00:06:22,245 we got 10, 20 teams a month, 104 00:06:22,245 --> 00:06:25,094 and every time it happened the same. 105 00:06:25,294 --> 00:06:30,734 They called me to come to one of the houses of the nurses, 106 00:06:30,734 --> 00:06:33,795 and we sat all evening talking about of our profession: 107 00:06:33,795 --> 00:06:35,850 What does it mean to help people? 108 00:06:35,850 --> 00:06:38,320 And how can we do it just the way we want it 109 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,016 and not be bothered by any kind of regulations? 110 00:06:43,596 --> 00:06:44,708 So that's what we did, 111 00:06:44,708 --> 00:06:47,268 and the evening of the day after, 112 00:06:47,268 --> 00:06:49,908 I usually got a phone call from one of the nurses, 113 00:06:49,908 --> 00:06:52,628 and they said, "When can we start?" 114 00:06:53,238 --> 00:06:56,263 And then we started just a new team in a new neighborhood 115 00:06:56,263 --> 00:07:00,583 focusing on patients as we are used to. 116 00:07:01,244 --> 00:07:07,104 So this went at a very high speed, 117 00:07:07,104 --> 00:07:12,224 and we didn't have problems to manage this because they were managing themselves. 118 00:07:12,228 --> 00:07:13,576 We had a small back office, 119 00:07:13,576 --> 00:07:17,278 and we still have a small back office with 30 people. 120 00:07:17,768 --> 00:07:21,419 My wife and me, we are some kind of a management team, 121 00:07:21,419 --> 00:07:26,827 but we don't have meetings, and everything is going very well. 122 00:07:27,637 --> 00:07:30,532 My wife is always awake very early, around 6:00, 123 00:07:30,532 --> 00:07:34,439 and then she tells me what to do like any other wife, I think, 124 00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:36,440 is telling her husband. 125 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,930 So that's the way we are managing. 126 00:07:39,930 --> 00:07:45,130 And this way, we have a lot of time just to solve problems. 127 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,422 In my job I had before, I had meetings from morning till evening, 128 00:07:50,422 --> 00:07:53,733 and I didn't had time to solve the problems. 129 00:07:53,953 --> 00:07:55,857 So that's quite different. 130 00:07:56,697 --> 00:08:02,239 In 2015, we see that there's still no management. 131 00:08:02,239 --> 00:08:04,789 Because there was a lot of criticism when we started. 132 00:08:04,789 --> 00:08:09,231 They said, yes, you can do this easily when you're with just a few persons. 133 00:08:09,590 --> 00:08:10,749 And then, they said, 134 00:08:10,749 --> 00:08:16,810 oh wait, perhaps next year they will collapse 135 00:08:16,810 --> 00:08:19,975 or they will have big financial problems. 136 00:08:20,285 --> 00:08:21,560 But the opposite happened 137 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:27,184 because what you saw that the teams were more and more in control 138 00:08:27,184 --> 00:08:30,124 and taught a lot of solutions 139 00:08:30,124 --> 00:08:32,380 they could find for the problems they met. 140 00:08:32,710 --> 00:08:36,127 So it was growing, the knowledge was growing in the teams, 141 00:08:36,127 --> 00:08:39,194 and it became more and more sustainable. 142 00:08:39,370 --> 00:08:42,470 We still tried to avoid any kind of bureaucracy. 143 00:08:42,475 --> 00:08:44,560 We built an IT system 144 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:51,200 [which prevented] all the bureaucracy to take over the work of the nurses. 145 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:53,921 So all the bureaucracy was kept outside. 146 00:08:53,921 --> 00:08:58,271 We split the administrative process with the professional process 147 00:08:58,557 --> 00:09:02,767 so the nurses just can focus on what they're there for, 148 00:09:02,767 --> 00:09:04,915 and that's taking care for patients, 149 00:09:04,915 --> 00:09:09,183 find solutions for patients who have severe problems. 150 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:14,770 In 2015, we can look at it, if you look back now, 151 00:09:14,770 --> 00:09:16,581 we can say we have, since we started, 152 00:09:16,581 --> 00:09:19,487 the highest client satisfaction in Holland. 153 00:09:19,487 --> 00:09:22,706 And what's very important for the policy makers 154 00:09:22,706 --> 00:09:28,201 is that instead it took more costs, or more hours, 155 00:09:28,201 --> 00:09:31,758 because we're working with higher educated nurses, 156 00:09:32,048 --> 00:09:35,238 the costs went down with 40 percent. 157 00:09:36,078 --> 00:09:37,974 So last evening, 158 00:09:37,974 --> 00:09:43,023 the Parliament in Holland was debating about the district nurse. 159 00:09:43,023 --> 00:09:46,630 And they were debating about the position of the district nurse 160 00:09:46,630 --> 00:09:49,570 in the future in Holland. 161 00:09:49,570 --> 00:09:53,146 And they said, this movement should be spread all over in Holland, 162 00:09:53,146 --> 00:09:54,388 so we want to support it. 163 00:09:54,388 --> 00:09:57,388 All the political parties agreed on that. 164 00:09:58,091 --> 00:10:02,641 And at the same time, we became the best employer of the year, 165 00:10:02,641 --> 00:10:04,201 three times in a row. 166 00:10:04,201 --> 00:10:05,546 Just by doing nothing. 167 00:10:05,546 --> 00:10:07,796 We don't have an HR department, 168 00:10:07,796 --> 00:10:08,848 so we don't - 169 00:10:08,848 --> 00:10:13,866 so by doing nothing, and doing less, you get far better results. 170 00:10:14,086 --> 00:10:16,636 So all these management ideas 171 00:10:16,636 --> 00:10:19,587 about controlling and command people, 172 00:10:19,587 --> 00:10:22,657 are just, in my opinion, quite destructive. 173 00:10:22,657 --> 00:10:25,903 So if you just let people organize the work themselves, 174 00:10:25,903 --> 00:10:30,083 you get much better results and people are much happier 175 00:10:30,083 --> 00:10:32,648 because they can do what they want to do. 176 00:10:32,648 --> 00:10:34,778 And it sounds very logic, 177 00:10:34,778 --> 00:10:39,468 but we make it very difficult for people to work this way in a lot of places, 178 00:10:39,468 --> 00:10:42,493 also in schools and also with police. 179 00:10:44,373 --> 00:10:47,299 It was not only in Holland that this happens. 180 00:10:47,299 --> 00:10:50,799 There are a lot of countries who have the same problems, 181 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:53,419 and we got questions from the United States, 182 00:10:53,419 --> 00:10:57,585 from Japan, Sweden, China, Czech Republic and so on. 183 00:10:57,875 --> 00:10:59,462 I visited 30 countries, 184 00:10:59,462 --> 00:11:03,052 and in every country I meet nurses who had the same ideas. 185 00:11:03,752 --> 00:11:05,407 And we start the same movement. 186 00:11:05,407 --> 00:11:07,776 Just with a few nurses, that's enough. 187 00:11:07,776 --> 00:11:10,454 And then you show that it can be done. 188 00:11:10,454 --> 00:11:15,063 And then you see that other people become curious. 189 00:11:15,063 --> 00:11:19,463 And they say, oh, we never expected that it was possible in our system 190 00:11:19,463 --> 00:11:22,278 because we have such a complex system. 191 00:11:22,438 --> 00:11:25,346 So we also developed a theory on that. 192 00:11:25,346 --> 00:11:28,276 It's the integrating simplification theory. 193 00:11:28,276 --> 00:11:31,969 Try to make things simple, not complex. 194 00:11:33,049 --> 00:11:35,569 And when you do that consequently, 195 00:11:36,139 --> 00:11:39,470 it's more easy for people to take their responsibility, 196 00:11:39,470 --> 00:11:43,599 and to think about what can be done to solve problems. 197 00:11:43,779 --> 00:11:47,343 So, I think healthcare is about trust. 198 00:11:47,343 --> 00:11:51,926 I never met a nurse who didn't want to do her work as good as possible. 199 00:11:51,926 --> 00:11:53,824 So you can trust nurses. 200 00:11:53,824 --> 00:11:56,144 It's about meaningful relationships, 201 00:11:56,144 --> 00:11:59,760 with each other but also between nurses and patients, of course. 202 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,490 And it is about empathy. 203 00:12:01,490 --> 00:12:04,838 Try to understand what the concerns of people are, 204 00:12:04,838 --> 00:12:07,387 and try to do something positive with it. 205 00:12:07,787 --> 00:12:10,975 So, in my opinion, we should - 206 00:12:11,705 --> 00:12:15,177 let's bring the soul back into the organizations, 207 00:12:15,177 --> 00:12:18,862 and let the complexity get out of the organizations. 208 00:12:18,862 --> 00:12:20,232 Thank you very much. 209 00:12:20,232 --> 00:12:21,982 (Applause)