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I noticed that you wrote about Andy Warhol,

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saying you felt little for the can and didn't like the soup.

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(Laughter)

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That you preferred an artist not mirroring the world, but transforming it.

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Yes. Well, when I was young, I truthfully didn't have an affection for Andy Warhol.

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As a human being I thought that he was not a very generous or kind person,

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his work really didn't speak to me.

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Robert loved Andy Warhol though, and Robert believed he was a genius,

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and so I didn't dismiss him because I knew Robert knew things,

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you know I trusted in Robert's instinct.

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And, when I was young, his work didn't speak to me.

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At this time of my life, I've really gotten to appreciate what a genius he was.

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And, I find, if I'm in a museum, and looking at contemporary art,

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I'm not so drawn to contemporary art, and I suddenly see something across the room,

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and I think "That's strong", and I go over and it's Andy's.

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And the last works he did, or some of the last works he did before he died,

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his last supper, body of work, I thought was genius, was quite moving.

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But what I think is important in the quotation about an artist, either mirroring or transforming,

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I think what you do is transforming, instead of mirroring what you see,

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it's two different conceptions of how to be an artist.

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Well, I feel more drawn to the transformative in art itself.

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I'm not so drawn to non-fiction, but you know I also appreciate more and more

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someone that has the ability to mirror our times.

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I think that it's important that people do that, it's just I'm not really that style of person.

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I learned this lesson when 9/11 happened.

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Where I live in New-York City, I could see the towers from my stoop,

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and I watched them come down, and I didn't live far from there

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so I went and looked at the remains of one of the towers, the South Tower.

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And it was an extraordinary...

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it was like a piece of sculpture, it looked like the Tower of Babel.

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And I started thinking a lot about Andy, then.

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I really missed Andy as an artist then, because he would have known what to do

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as an artist, not to transform, but to document this extraordinary thing that happened.

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So, even though I'm not that style of artist,

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I recognized the importance of that type of artist.

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But when I was young, I was really judgmental.

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(Laughter)

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(Applause)