0:00:01.759,0:00:05.112 I worked as a war reporter for 15 years 0:00:05.136,0:00:08.601 before I realized[br]that I really had a problem. 0:00:09.101,0:00:11.207 There was something really wrong with me. 0:00:11.231,0:00:14.569 This was about a year before 9/11,[br]and America wasn't at war yet. 0:00:15.432,0:00:17.824 We weren't talking about PTSD. 0:00:17.848,0:00:22.044 We were not yet talking[br]about the effect of trauma and war 0:00:22.068,0:00:23.852 on the human psyche. 0:00:24.706,0:00:26.956 I'd been in Afghanistan[br]for a couple of months 0:00:26.980,0:00:29.988 with the Northern Alliance[br]as they were fighting the Taliban. 0:00:30.012,0:00:33.269 And at that point the Taliban[br]had an air force, 0:00:33.293,0:00:36.522 they had fighter planes,[br]they had tanks, they had artillery, 0:00:36.546,0:00:39.837 and we really got hammered[br]pretty badly a couple of times. 0:00:39.861,0:00:41.827 We saw some very ugly things. 0:00:43.104,0:00:45.074 But I didn't really think it affected me. 0:00:45.098,0:00:46.626 I didn't think much about it. 0:00:46.650,0:00:48.601 I came home to New York, where I live. 0:00:49.141,0:00:51.506 Then one day I went down into the subway, 0:00:52.490,0:00:54.941 and for the first time in my life, 0:00:54.965,0:00:56.799 I knew real fear. 0:00:56.823,0:00:59.162 I had a massive panic attack. 0:01:00.058,0:01:02.937 I was way more scared[br]than I had ever been in Afghanistan. 0:01:04.093,0:01:07.493 Everything I was looking at seemed like[br]it was going to kill me, 0:01:07.517,0:01:09.810 but I couldn't explain why. 0:01:10.121,0:01:12.095 The trains were going too fast. 0:01:12.119,0:01:13.473 There were too many people. 0:01:13.497,0:01:15.285 The lights were too bright. 0:01:15.309,0:01:18.108 Everything was too loud,[br]everything was moving too quickly. 0:01:18.132,0:01:21.460 I backed up against a support column[br]and just waited for it. 0:01:23.115,0:01:26.311 When I couldn't take it any longer,[br]I ran out of the subway station 0:01:26.335,0:01:28.064 and walked wherever I was going. 0:01:29.648,0:01:33.827 Later, I found out that what I had[br]was short-term PTSD: 0:01:33.851,0:01:35.754 post-traumatic stress disorder. 0:01:36.993,0:01:40.221 We evolved as animals, as primates,[br]to survive periods of danger, 0:01:40.245,0:01:43.166 and if your life has been in danger, 0:01:43.190,0:01:45.831 you want to react to unfamiliar noises. 0:01:47.352,0:01:49.607 You want to sleep lightly, wake up easily. 0:01:49.631,0:01:51.825 You want to have nightmares and flashbacks 0:01:51.849,0:01:53.658 of the thing that could kill you. 0:01:54.756,0:01:57.813 You want to be angry because it makes you[br]predisposed to fight, 0:01:57.837,0:02:01.210 or depressed, because it keeps you out[br]of circulation a little bit. 0:02:01.591,0:02:02.922 Keeps you safe. 0:02:03.580,0:02:06.458 It's not very pleasant,[br]but it's better than getting eaten. 0:02:08.469,0:02:10.923 Most people recover[br]from that pretty quickly. 0:02:10.947,0:02:13.037 It takes a few weeks, a few months. 0:02:13.061,0:02:16.176 I kept having panic attacks,[br]but they eventually went away. 0:02:16.200,0:02:18.850 I had no idea it was connected[br]to the war that I'd seen. 0:02:18.874,0:02:20.470 I just thought I was going crazy, 0:02:20.494,0:02:23.628 and then I thought, well,[br]now I'm not going crazy anymore. 0:02:25.197,0:02:27.827 About 20 percent of people, however, 0:02:27.851,0:02:31.142 wind up with chronic, long-term PTSD. 0:02:31.166,0:02:33.560 They are not adapted to temporary danger. 0:02:33.584,0:02:36.345 They are maladapted for everyday life, 0:02:36.369,0:02:37.547 unless they get help. 0:02:37.994,0:02:41.533 We know that the people[br]who are vulnerable to long-term PTSD 0:02:41.557,0:02:44.273 are people who were abused as children, 0:02:44.297,0:02:46.028 who suffered trauma as children, 0:02:46.052,0:02:48.670 people who have low education levels, 0:02:48.694,0:02:51.252 people who have psychiatric[br]disorders in their family. 0:02:51.276,0:02:52.554 If you served in Vietnam 0:02:52.578,0:02:55.272 and your brother is schizophrenic, 0:02:55.296,0:02:59.412 you're way more likely to get[br]long-term PTSD from Vietnam. 0:03:00.571,0:03:03.199 So I started to study this[br]as a journalist, 0:03:03.868,0:03:07.391 and I realized that there was something[br]really strange going on. 0:03:07.415,0:03:10.158 The numbers seemed to be going[br]in the wrong direction. 0:03:10.597,0:03:12.969 Every war that we have[br]fought as a country, 0:03:12.993,0:03:14.967 starting with the Civil War, 0:03:14.991,0:03:18.047 the intensity of the combat has gone down. 0:03:18.878,0:03:22.258 As a result, the casualty rates[br]have gone down. 0:03:22.707,0:03:24.662 But disability rates have gone up. 0:03:24.686,0:03:26.888 They should be going[br]in the same direction, 0:03:27.702,0:03:29.951 but they're going in different directions. 0:03:32.124,0:03:36.713 The recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan[br]have produced, thank God, 0:03:36.737,0:03:42.081 a casualty rate about one third[br]of what it was in Vietnam. 0:03:44.129,0:03:46.089 But they've also created -- 0:03:46.678,0:03:50.024 they've also produced[br]three times the disability rates. 0:03:51.526,0:03:57.499 Around 10 percent of the US military[br]is actively engaged in combat, 0:03:58.439,0:03:59.777 10 percent or under. 0:03:59.801,0:04:02.075 They're shooting at people,[br]killing people, 0:04:02.099,0:04:04.437 getting shot at,[br]seeing their friends get killed. 0:04:04.461,0:04:06.014 It's incredibly traumatic. 0:04:06.038,0:04:08.848 But it's only about 10 percent[br]of our military. 0:04:08.872,0:04:11.105 But about half of our military has filed 0:04:11.129,0:04:15.351 for some kind of PTSD compensation[br]from the government. 0:04:16.922,0:04:21.617 And suicide doesn't even fit into this[br]in a very logical way. 0:04:22.173,0:04:27.959 We've all heard the tragic statistic[br]of 22 vets a day, on average, 0:04:27.983,0:04:30.590 in this country, killing themselves. 0:04:31.564,0:04:33.054 Most people don't realize 0:04:33.078,0:04:38.715 that the majority of those suicides[br]are veterans of the Vietnam War, 0:04:38.739,0:04:40.617 that generation, 0:04:40.641,0:04:45.139 and their decision to take their own lives[br]actually might not be related 0:04:45.163,0:04:47.861 to the war they fought 50 years earlier. 0:04:49.122,0:04:52.814 In fact, there's no statistical connection[br]between combat and suicide. 0:04:52.838,0:04:55.905 If you're in the military[br]and you're in a lot of combat, 0:04:55.929,0:04:58.939 you're no more likely to kill yourself[br]than if you weren't. 0:04:59.614,0:05:00.940 In fact, one study found 0:05:00.964,0:05:02.988 that if you deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan, 0:05:03.012,0:05:06.432 you're actually slightly less likely[br]to commit suicide later. 0:05:08.626,0:05:10.896 I studied anthropology in college. 0:05:10.920,0:05:13.939 I did my fieldwork[br]on the Navajo reservation. 0:05:13.963,0:05:17.358 I wrote a thesis on Navajo[br]long-distance runners. 0:05:18.473,0:05:22.477 And recently, while[br]I was researching PTSD, 0:05:23.501,0:05:25.606 I had this thought. 0:05:26.325,0:05:29.404 I thought back to the work[br]I did when I was young, 0:05:29.428,0:05:33.497 and I thought, I bet the Navajo,[br]the Apache, the Comanche -- 0:05:33.521,0:05:36.085 I mean, these are very warlike nations -- 0:05:36.109,0:05:39.891 I bet they weren't getting[br]PTSD like we do. 0:05:40.814,0:05:43.806 When their warriors came back[br]from fighting the US military 0:05:43.830,0:05:45.438 or fighting each other, 0:05:46.241,0:05:50.184 I bet they pretty much just slipped[br]right back into tribal life. 0:05:51.635,0:05:53.889 And maybe what determines 0:05:53.913,0:05:56.607 the rate of long-term PTSD 0:05:56.631,0:05:58.619 isn't what happened out there, 0:05:59.942,0:06:02.347 but the kind of society you come back to. 0:06:03.107,0:06:08.061 And maybe if you come back[br]to a close, cohesive, tribal society, 0:06:08.823,0:06:11.148 you can get over trauma pretty quickly. 0:06:11.830,0:06:16.176 And if you come back[br]to an alienating, modern society, 0:06:16.719,0:06:20.224 you might remain traumatized[br]your entire life. 0:06:20.248,0:06:23.359 In other words, maybe the problem[br]isn't them, the vets; 0:06:23.383,0:06:25.147 maybe the problem is us. 0:06:27.325,0:06:31.768 Certainly, modern society[br]is hard on the human psyche 0:06:32.649,0:06:34.563 by every metric that we have. 0:06:37.043,0:06:39.404 As wealth goes up in a society, 0:06:41.523,0:06:45.094 the suicide rate goes up instead of down. 0:06:46.066,0:06:48.156 If you live in modern society, 0:06:48.180,0:06:50.316 you're up to eight times more likely 0:06:52.379,0:06:54.700 to suffer from depression in your lifetime 0:06:54.724,0:06:57.612 than if you live in a poor,[br]agrarian society. 0:06:58.915,0:07:02.514 Modern society has probably produced[br]the highest rates of suicide 0:07:02.538,0:07:05.792 and depression and anxiety[br]and loneliness and child abuse 0:07:05.816,0:07:07.561 ever in human history. 0:07:08.695,0:07:10.268 I saw one study 0:07:10.292,0:07:13.334 that compared women in Nigeria, 0:07:13.358,0:07:15.855 one of the most chaotic[br]and violent and corrupt 0:07:16.627,0:07:18.833 and poorest countries in Africa, 0:07:19.358,0:07:20.649 to women in North America. 0:07:20.673,0:07:25.863 And the highest rates of depression[br]were urban women in North America. 0:07:25.887,0:07:27.882 That was also the wealthiest group. 0:07:28.637,0:07:32.486 So let's go back to the US military. 0:07:33.096,0:07:35.614 Ten percent are in combat. 0:07:35.638,0:07:40.377 Around 50 percent have filed[br]for PTSD compensation. 0:07:41.602,0:07:46.704 So about 40 percent of veterans[br]really were not traumatized overseas 0:07:47.734,0:07:52.040 but have come home to discover[br]they are dangerously alienated 0:07:52.563,0:07:53.889 and depressed. 0:07:56.341,0:07:59.278 So what is happening with them? 0:07:59.302,0:08:01.119 What's going on with those people, 0:08:02.051,0:08:06.786 the phantom 40 percent that are troubled[br]but don't understand why? 0:08:06.810,0:08:08.134 Maybe it's this: 0:08:08.158,0:08:12.802 maybe they had an experience[br]of sort of tribal closeness 0:08:12.826,0:08:15.056 in their unit when they were overseas. 0:08:16.075,0:08:18.708 They were eating together,[br]sleeping together, 0:08:18.732,0:08:21.031 doing tasks and missions together. 0:08:21.055,0:08:23.594 They were trusting each other[br]with their lives. 0:08:25.160,0:08:26.833 And then they come home 0:08:26.857,0:08:28.857 and they have to give all that up 0:08:29.851,0:08:33.590 and they're coming back[br]to a society, a modern society, 0:08:33.614,0:08:37.147 which is hard on people[br]who weren't even in the military. 0:08:37.171,0:08:38.796 It's just hard on everybody. 0:08:39.494,0:08:43.417 And we keep focusing on trauma, PTSD. 0:08:44.685,0:08:46.377 But for a lot of these people, 0:08:47.340,0:08:48.537 maybe it's not trauma. 0:08:48.561,0:08:51.116 I mean, certainly,[br]soldiers are traumatized 0:08:51.140,0:08:53.509 and the ones who are[br]have to be treated for that. 0:08:53.533,0:08:54.727 But a lot of them -- 0:08:54.751,0:08:57.981 maybe what's bothering them[br]is actually a kind of alienation. 0:08:58.321,0:09:01.091 I mean, maybe we just have[br]the wrong word for some of it, 0:09:01.115,0:09:03.504 and just changing our language,[br]our understanding, 0:09:03.528,0:09:04.702 would help a little bit. 0:09:04.726,0:09:07.438 "Post-deployment alienation disorder." 0:09:07.462,0:09:10.340 Maybe even just calling it that[br]for some of these people 0:09:11.634,0:09:14.212 would allow them to stop imagining 0:09:14.236,0:09:17.002 trying to imagine a trauma[br]that didn't really happen 0:09:17.707,0:09:20.478 in order to explain a feeling[br]that really is happening. 0:09:20.502,0:09:23.019 And in fact, it's an extremely[br]dangerous feeling. 0:09:23.043,0:09:25.783 That alienation and depression[br]can lead to suicide. 0:09:25.807,0:09:27.804 These people are in danger. 0:09:27.828,0:09:29.950 It's very important to understand why. 0:09:31.167,0:09:35.441 The Israeli military has a PTSD rate[br]of around one percent. 0:09:35.650,0:09:41.249 The theory is that everyone in Israel[br]is supposed to serve in the military. 0:09:41.273,0:09:43.383 When soldiers come back[br]from the front line, 0:09:43.407,0:09:47.845 they're not going from a military[br]environment to a civilian environment. 0:09:48.741,0:09:52.448 They're coming back to a community[br]where everyone understands 0:09:53.698,0:09:54.853 about the military. 0:09:54.877,0:09:57.032 Everyone's been in it[br]or is going to be in it. 0:09:57.056,0:09:59.412 Everyone understands[br]the situation they're all in. 0:09:59.436,0:10:01.705 It's as if they're all in one big tribe. 0:10:02.282,0:10:04.316 We know that if you take a lab rat 0:10:04.340,0:10:08.012 and traumatize it and put it[br]in a cage by itself, 0:10:08.036,0:10:11.193 you can maintain its trauma symptoms[br]almost indefinitely. 0:10:11.717,0:10:16.804 And if you take that same lab rat[br]and put it in a cage with other rats, 0:10:18.018,0:10:21.374 after a couple of weeks,[br]it's pretty much OK. 0:10:23.509,0:10:24.771 After 9/11, 0:10:26.549,0:10:29.842 the murder rate in New York City[br]went down by 40 percent. 0:10:29.866,0:10:31.688 The suicide rate went down. 0:10:32.756,0:10:37.260 The violent crime rate in New York[br]went down after 9/11. 0:10:37.284,0:10:42.603 Even combat veterans of previous wars[br]who suffered from PTSD 0:10:42.627,0:10:47.124 said that their symptoms went down[br]after 9/11 happened. 0:10:47.148,0:10:50.584 The reason is that if you traumatize[br]an entire society, 0:10:52.450,0:10:55.669 we don't fall apart[br]and turn on one another. 0:10:55.693,0:10:57.807 We come together. We unify. 0:10:57.831,0:10:59.878 Basically, we tribalize, 0:10:59.902,0:11:05.455 and that process of unifying[br]feels so good and is so good for us, 0:11:05.479,0:11:06.896 that it even helps people 0:11:06.920,0:11:10.214 who are struggling[br]with mental health issues. 0:11:10.238,0:11:12.003 During the blitz in London, 0:11:12.027,0:11:17.040 admissions to psychiatric wards[br]went down during the bombings. 0:11:18.606,0:11:21.828 For a while, that was the kind of country 0:11:21.852,0:11:25.723 that American soldiers came[br]back to -- a unified country. 0:11:26.288,0:11:27.559 We were sticking together. 0:11:27.583,0:11:30.194 We were trying to understand[br]the threat against us. 0:11:30.218,0:11:34.297 We were trying to help[br]ourselves and the world. 0:11:35.521,0:11:37.122 But that's changed. 0:11:38.392,0:11:40.738 Now, American soldiers, 0:11:40.762,0:11:44.582 American veterans are coming back[br]to a country that is so bitterly divided 0:11:45.716,0:11:49.138 that the two political parties[br]are literally accusing each other 0:11:50.670,0:11:53.510 of treason, of being[br]an enemy of the state, 0:11:54.265,0:11:59.025 of trying to undermine the security[br]and the welfare of their own country. 0:11:59.049,0:12:03.182 The gap between rich and poor[br]is the biggest it's ever been. 0:12:03.206,0:12:04.391 It's just getting worse. 0:12:04.415,0:12:06.823 Race relations are terrible. 0:12:06.847,0:12:09.703 There are demonstrations[br]and even riots in the streets 0:12:09.727,0:12:11.706 because of racial injustice. 0:12:12.727,0:12:16.988 And veterans know that any tribe[br]that treated itself that way -- in fact, 0:12:17.012,0:12:21.942 any platoon that treated itself[br]that way -- would never survive. 0:12:23.068,0:12:24.959 We've gotten used to it. 0:12:24.983,0:12:28.836 Veterans have gone away[br]and are coming back 0:12:28.860,0:12:33.301 and seeing their own country[br]with fresh eyes. 0:12:33.325,0:12:34.982 And they see what's going on. 0:12:35.738,0:12:37.593 This is the country they fought for. 0:12:38.433,0:12:40.111 No wonder they're depressed. 0:12:40.135,0:12:41.709 No wonder they're scared. 0:12:43.371,0:12:47.248 Sometimes, we ask ourselves[br]if we can save the vets. 0:12:48.248,0:12:51.418 I think the real question[br]is if we can save ourselves. 0:12:51.905,0:12:53.595 If we can, 0:12:53.619,0:12:55.593 I think the vets are going to be fine. 0:12:56.697,0:12:59.834 It's time for this country to unite, 0:13:01.818,0:13:06.610 if only to help the men and women[br]who fought to protect us. 0:13:07.182,0:13:08.413 Thank you very much. 0:13:08.437,0:13:15.103 (Applause)