1 00:00:00,767 --> 00:00:03,619 To be honest, by personality, 2 00:00:03,619 --> 00:00:06,236 I'm just not much of a crier. 3 00:00:07,316 --> 00:00:10,596 But I think in my career that's been a good thing. 4 00:00:11,246 --> 00:00:12,630 I'm a civil rights lawyer, 5 00:00:12,630 --> 00:00:15,634 and I've seen some horrible things in the world. 6 00:00:17,034 --> 00:00:20,844 I began my career working police abuse cases in the United States. 7 00:00:20,844 --> 00:00:24,318 And then in 1994, I was sent to Rwanda 8 00:00:24,318 --> 00:00:29,248 to be the director of the U.N.'s genocide investigation. 9 00:00:29,908 --> 00:00:33,647 It turns out that tears just aren't much help 10 00:00:33,647 --> 00:00:37,176 when you're trying to investigate a genocide. 11 00:00:37,176 --> 00:00:42,037 The things I had to see, and feel and touch 12 00:00:42,037 --> 00:00:44,864 were pretty unspeakable. 13 00:00:45,534 --> 00:00:48,891 What I can tell you is this: 14 00:00:48,891 --> 00:00:50,988 that the Rwandan genocide 15 00:00:50,988 --> 00:00:56,661 was one of the world's greatest failures of simple compassion. 16 00:00:57,711 --> 00:01:01,120 That word, compassion, actually comes from two Latin words: 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,642 cum passio, which simply mean "to suffer with." 18 00:01:06,642 --> 00:01:10,204 And the things that I saw and experienced 19 00:01:10,204 --> 00:01:12,790 in Rwanda as I got up close to human suffering, 20 00:01:12,790 --> 00:01:16,129 it did, in moments, move me to tears. 21 00:01:16,129 --> 00:01:18,855 But I just wish that I, and the rest of the world, 22 00:01:18,855 --> 00:01:21,370 had been moved earlier. 23 00:01:21,370 --> 00:01:23,034 And not just to tears, 24 00:01:23,034 --> 00:01:26,834 but to actually stop the genocide. 25 00:01:26,834 --> 00:01:29,292 Now by contrast, I've also been involved 26 00:01:29,292 --> 00:01:35,125 with one of the world's greatest successes of compassion. 27 00:01:35,125 --> 00:01:38,071 And that's the fight against global poverty. 28 00:01:38,071 --> 00:01:40,854 It's a cause that probably has involved all of us here. 29 00:01:40,854 --> 00:01:42,852 I don't know if your first introduction 30 00:01:42,852 --> 00:01:46,217 might have been choruses of "We Are the World," 31 00:01:46,217 --> 00:01:50,280 or maybe the picture of a sponsored child on your refrigerator door, 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,367 or maybe the birthday you donated for fresh water. 33 00:01:54,367 --> 00:01:57,581 I don't really remember what my first introduction to poverty was 34 00:01:57,581 --> 00:02:01,145 but I do remember the most jarring. 35 00:02:01,145 --> 00:02:03,307 It was when I met Venus -- 36 00:02:03,307 --> 00:02:06,029 she's a mom from Zambia. 37 00:02:06,029 --> 00:02:09,655 She's got three kids and she's a widow. 38 00:02:09,655 --> 00:02:13,022 When I met her, she had walked about 12 miles 39 00:02:13,022 --> 00:02:15,695 in the only garments she owned, 40 00:02:15,695 --> 00:02:19,957 to come to the capital city and to share her story. 41 00:02:19,957 --> 00:02:23,572 She sat down with me for hours, 42 00:02:23,572 --> 00:02:28,097 just ushered me in to the world of poverty. 43 00:02:28,097 --> 00:02:31,238 She described what it was like when the coals on the cooking fire 44 00:02:31,238 --> 00:02:34,967 finally just went completely cold. 45 00:02:34,967 --> 00:02:39,729 When that last drop of cooking oil finally ran out. 46 00:02:39,729 --> 00:02:43,585 When the last of the food, despite her best efforts, 47 00:02:43,585 --> 00:02:44,693 ran out. 48 00:02:46,113 --> 00:02:49,096 She had to watch her youngest son, Peter, 49 00:02:49,096 --> 00:02:51,878 suffer from malnutrition, 50 00:02:51,878 --> 00:02:55,954 as his legs just slowly bowed into uselessness. 51 00:02:55,954 --> 00:02:59,302 As his eyes grew cloudy and dim. 52 00:02:59,302 --> 00:03:03,480 And then as Peter finally grew cold. 53 00:03:06,130 --> 00:03:11,811 For over 50 years, stories like this have been moving us to compassion. 54 00:03:11,811 --> 00:03:14,661 We whose kids have plenty to eat. 55 00:03:14,661 --> 00:03:17,330 And we're moved not only to care about global poverty, 56 00:03:17,330 --> 00:03:22,020 but to actually try to do our part to stop the suffering. 57 00:03:22,020 --> 00:03:25,493 Now there's plenty of room for critique that we haven't done enough, 58 00:03:25,493 --> 00:03:29,715 and what it is that we've done hasn't been effective enough, 59 00:03:29,715 --> 00:03:32,845 but the truth is this: 60 00:03:32,845 --> 00:03:36,396 The fight against global poverty is probably the broadest, 61 00:03:36,396 --> 00:03:41,531 longest running manifestation of the human phenomenon of compassion 62 00:03:41,531 --> 00:03:44,673 in the history of our species. 63 00:03:44,673 --> 00:03:48,322 And so I'd like to share a pretty shattering insight 64 00:03:48,322 --> 00:03:52,615 that might forever change the way you think about that struggle. 65 00:03:52,615 --> 00:03:55,438 But first, let me begin with what you probably already know. 66 00:03:55,438 --> 00:03:58,920 Thirty-five years ago, when I would have been graduating from high school, 67 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:05,297 they told us that 40,000 kids every day died because of poverty. 68 00:04:05,297 --> 00:04:09,669 That number, today, is now down to 17,000. 69 00:04:09,669 --> 00:04:11,675 Way too many, of course, 70 00:04:11,675 --> 00:04:14,352 but it does mean that every year, 71 00:04:14,352 --> 00:04:18,900 there's eight million kids who don't have to die from poverty. 72 00:04:19,650 --> 00:04:22,067 Moreover, the number of people in our world 73 00:04:22,067 --> 00:04:24,230 who are living in extreme poverty, 74 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:27,567 which is defined as living off about a dollar and a quarter a day, 75 00:04:27,567 --> 00:04:31,179 that has fallen from 50 percent, 76 00:04:31,179 --> 00:04:34,413 to only 15 percent. 77 00:04:35,403 --> 00:04:36,853 This is massive progress, 78 00:04:36,853 --> 00:04:41,678 and this exceeds everybody's expectations about what is possible. 79 00:04:42,258 --> 00:04:45,123 And I think you and I, 80 00:04:45,123 --> 00:04:49,399 I think, honestly, that we can feel proud and encouraged 81 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:53,284 to see the way that compassion actually has the power 82 00:04:53,284 --> 00:04:58,476 to succeed in stopping the suffering of millions. 83 00:04:58,476 --> 00:05:02,852 But here's the part that you might not hear very much about. 84 00:05:02,852 --> 00:05:07,586 If you move that poverty mark just up to two dollars a day, 85 00:05:07,586 --> 00:05:10,585 it turns out that virtually the same two billion people 86 00:05:10,585 --> 00:05:14,397 who were stuck in that harsh poverty when I was in high school, 87 00:05:14,397 --> 00:05:16,278 are still stuck there, 88 00:05:16,278 --> 00:05:18,667 35 years later. 89 00:05:18,667 --> 00:05:23,686 So why, why are so many billions still stuck in such harsh poverty? 90 00:05:24,396 --> 00:05:27,351 Well, let's think about Venus for a moment. 91 00:05:27,351 --> 00:05:31,123 Now for decades, my wife and I have been moved by common compassion 92 00:05:31,123 --> 00:05:33,952 to sponsor kids, to fund microloans, 93 00:05:33,952 --> 00:05:37,471 to support generous levels of foreign aid. 94 00:05:37,471 --> 00:05:40,563 But until I had actually talked to Venus, 95 00:05:40,563 --> 00:05:43,200 I would have had no idea that none of those approaches 96 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:48,696 actually addressed why she had to watch her son die. 97 00:05:49,806 --> 00:05:54,243 "We were doing fine," Venus told me, 98 00:05:54,243 --> 00:05:58,785 "until Brutus started to cause trouble." 99 00:05:58,785 --> 00:06:01,755 Now, Brutus is Venus' neighbor and "cause trouble" 100 00:06:01,755 --> 00:06:05,281 is what happened the day after Venus' husband died, 101 00:06:05,281 --> 00:06:09,213 when Brutus just came and threw Venus and the kids out of the house, 102 00:06:09,213 --> 00:06:12,965 stole all their land, and robbed their market stall. 103 00:06:14,385 --> 00:06:19,342 You see, Venus was thrown into destitution by violence. 104 00:06:20,882 --> 00:06:22,891 And then it occurred to me, of course, 105 00:06:22,891 --> 00:06:26,690 that none of my child sponsorships, none of the microloans, 106 00:06:26,690 --> 00:06:30,552 none of the traditional anti-poverty programs 107 00:06:30,552 --> 00:06:34,518 were going to stop Brutus, 108 00:06:34,518 --> 00:06:37,872 because they weren't meant to. 109 00:06:37,872 --> 00:06:42,878 This became even more clear to me when I met Griselda. 110 00:06:42,878 --> 00:06:47,097 She's a marvelous young girl living in a very poor community 111 00:06:47,097 --> 00:06:48,913 in Guatemala. 112 00:06:48,913 --> 00:06:51,310 And one of the things we've learned over the years 113 00:06:51,310 --> 00:06:53,881 is that perhaps the most powerful thing 114 00:06:53,881 --> 00:06:56,725 that Griselda and her family can do 115 00:06:56,725 --> 00:06:59,390 to get Griselda and her family out of poverty 116 00:06:59,390 --> 00:07:02,514 is to make sure that she goes to school. 117 00:07:02,514 --> 00:07:07,239 The experts call this the Girl Effect. 118 00:07:07,239 --> 00:07:11,321 But when we met Griselda, she wasn't going to school. 119 00:07:11,321 --> 00:07:14,878 In fact, she was rarely ever leaving her home. 120 00:07:16,388 --> 00:07:18,173 Days before we met her, 121 00:07:18,173 --> 00:07:20,818 while she was walking home from church with her family, 122 00:07:20,818 --> 00:07:23,133 in broad daylight, 123 00:07:23,133 --> 00:07:26,610 men from her community just snatched her off the street, 124 00:07:26,610 --> 00:07:29,708 and violently raped her. 125 00:07:29,708 --> 00:07:34,205 See, Griselda had every opportunity to go to school, 126 00:07:34,205 --> 00:07:37,626 it just wasn't safe for her to get there. 127 00:07:37,626 --> 00:07:40,466 And Griselda's not the only one. 128 00:07:40,466 --> 00:07:43,190 Around the world, poor women and girls 129 00:07:43,190 --> 00:07:48,301 between the ages of 15 and 44, 130 00:07:48,301 --> 00:07:52,386 they are -- when victims of the everyday violence 131 00:07:52,386 --> 00:07:55,872 of domestic abuse and sexual violence -- 132 00:07:55,872 --> 00:08:00,684 those two forms of violence account for more death and disability 133 00:08:00,684 --> 00:08:07,688 than malaria, than car accidents, than war combined. 134 00:08:11,298 --> 00:08:16,075 The truth is, the poor of our world are trapped in whole systems of violence. 135 00:08:16,075 --> 00:08:20,108 In South Asia, for instance, I could drive past this rice mill 136 00:08:20,108 --> 00:08:23,045 and see this man hoisting these 100-pound sacks 137 00:08:23,045 --> 00:08:25,089 of rice upon his thin back. 138 00:08:25,089 --> 00:08:26,907 But I would have no idea, until later, 139 00:08:26,907 --> 00:08:29,349 that he was actually a slave, 140 00:08:29,349 --> 00:08:33,738 held by violence in that rice mill since I was in high school. 141 00:08:34,828 --> 00:08:38,239 Decades of anti-poverty programs right in his community 142 00:08:38,239 --> 00:08:42,321 were never able to rescue him or any of the hundred other slaves 143 00:08:42,321 --> 00:08:45,957 from the beatings and the rapes and the torture 144 00:08:45,957 --> 00:08:49,652 of violence inside the rice mill. 145 00:08:49,652 --> 00:08:54,032 In fact, half a century of anti-poverty programs 146 00:08:54,032 --> 00:08:57,706 have left more poor people in slavery 147 00:08:57,706 --> 00:09:01,071 than in any other time in human history. 148 00:09:01,071 --> 00:09:07,050 Experts tell us that there's about 35 million people in slavery today. 149 00:09:07,050 --> 00:09:10,711 That's about the population of the entire nation of Canada, 150 00:09:10,711 --> 00:09:14,179 where we're sitting today. 151 00:09:14,179 --> 00:09:17,483 This is why, over time, I have come to call this epidemic of violence 152 00:09:17,483 --> 00:09:19,772 the Locust Effect. 153 00:09:19,772 --> 00:09:22,783 Because in the lives of the poor, it just descends like a plague 154 00:09:22,783 --> 00:09:25,571 and it destroys everything. 155 00:09:25,571 --> 00:09:29,954 In fact, now when you survey very, very poor communities, 156 00:09:29,954 --> 00:09:34,038 residents will tell you that their greatest fear is violence. 157 00:09:34,038 --> 00:09:36,607 But notice the violence that they fear 158 00:09:36,607 --> 00:09:39,785 is not the violence of genocide or the wars, 159 00:09:39,785 --> 00:09:42,140 it's everyday violence. 160 00:09:42,140 --> 00:09:45,353 So for me, as a lawyer, of course, my first reaction was to think, 161 00:09:45,353 --> 00:09:47,667 well, of course we've got to change all the laws. 162 00:09:47,667 --> 00:09:51,167 We've got to make all this violence against the poor illegal. 163 00:09:51,167 --> 00:09:54,902 But then I found out, it already is. 164 00:09:54,902 --> 00:09:57,742 The problem is not that the poor don't get laws, 165 00:09:57,742 --> 00:10:01,442 it's that they don't get law enforcement. 166 00:10:02,542 --> 00:10:04,185 In the developing world, 167 00:10:04,185 --> 00:10:07,250 basic law enforcement systems are so broken 168 00:10:07,250 --> 00:10:10,416 that recently the U.N. issued a report that found 169 00:10:10,416 --> 00:10:16,020 that "most poor people live outside the protection of the law." 170 00:10:16,020 --> 00:10:18,412 Now honestly, you and I have just about no idea 171 00:10:18,412 --> 00:10:20,009 of what that would mean 172 00:10:20,009 --> 00:10:23,688 because we have no first-hand experience of it. 173 00:10:23,688 --> 00:10:26,765 Functioning law enforcement for us is just a total assumption. 174 00:10:26,765 --> 00:10:31,137 In fact, nothing expresses that assumption more clearly than three simple numbers: 175 00:10:31,137 --> 00:10:33,598 9-1-1, 176 00:10:33,598 --> 00:10:36,765 which, of course, is the number for the emergency police operator 177 00:10:36,765 --> 00:10:40,066 here in Canada and in the United States, 178 00:10:40,066 --> 00:10:44,147 where the average response time to a police 911 emergency call 179 00:10:44,147 --> 00:10:45,810 is about 10 minutes. 180 00:10:45,810 --> 00:10:48,995 So we take this just completely for granted. 181 00:10:48,995 --> 00:10:53,512 But what if there was no law enforcement to protect you? 182 00:10:54,582 --> 00:10:59,204 A woman in Oregon recently experienced what this would be like. 183 00:10:59,204 --> 00:11:03,545 She was home alone in her dark house on a Saturday night, 184 00:11:03,545 --> 00:11:06,510 when a man started to tear his way into her home. 185 00:11:06,510 --> 00:11:08,467 This was her worst nightmare, 186 00:11:08,467 --> 00:11:13,075 because this man had actually put her in the hospital from an assault 187 00:11:13,075 --> 00:11:15,193 just two weeks before. 188 00:11:15,193 --> 00:11:18,551 So terrified, she picks up that phone and does what any of us would do: 189 00:11:18,551 --> 00:11:21,196 She calls 911 -- 190 00:11:21,196 --> 00:11:26,028 but only to learn that because of budget cuts in her county, 191 00:11:26,028 --> 00:11:29,397 law enforcement wasn't available on the weekends. 192 00:11:29,397 --> 00:11:30,187 Listen. 193 00:11:30,187 --> 00:11:33,006 Dispatcher: I don't have anybody to send out there. 194 00:11:33,006 --> 00:11:34,023 Woman: OK 195 00:11:34,023 --> 00:11:38,126 Dispatcher: Um, obviously if he comes inside the residence and assaults you, 196 00:11:38,126 --> 00:11:39,799 can you ask him to go away? 197 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:42,042 Or do you know if he is intoxicated or anything? 198 00:11:42,042 --> 00:11:45,415 Woman: I've already asked him. I've already told him I was calling you. 199 00:11:45,415 --> 00:11:48,088 He's broken in before, busted down my door, assaulted me. 200 00:11:48,088 --> 00:11:49,033 Dispatcher: Uh-huh. 201 00:11:49,033 --> 00:11:50,186 Woman: Um, yeah, so ... 202 00:11:50,186 --> 00:11:53,405 Dispatcher: Is there any way you could safely leave the residence? 203 00:11:53,405 --> 00:11:56,822 Woman: No, I can't, because he's blocking pretty much my only way out. 204 00:11:56,822 --> 00:11:59,968 Dispatcher: Well, the only thing I can do is give you some advice, 205 00:11:59,968 --> 00:12:02,684 and call the sheriff's office tomorrow. 206 00:12:02,684 --> 00:12:07,496 Obviously, if he comes in and unfortunately has a weapon 207 00:12:07,496 --> 00:12:10,822 or is trying to cause you physical harm, that's a different story. 208 00:12:10,822 --> 00:12:13,489 You know, the sheriff's office doesn't work up there. 209 00:12:13,489 --> 00:12:16,145 I don't have anybody to send." 210 00:12:17,735 --> 00:12:20,388 Gary Haugen: Tragically, the woman inside that house 211 00:12:20,388 --> 00:12:26,327 was violently assaulted, choked and raped 212 00:12:26,327 --> 00:12:32,371 because this is what it means to live outside the rule of law. 213 00:12:33,841 --> 00:12:37,855 And this is where billions of our poorest live. 214 00:12:40,015 --> 00:12:42,443 What does that look like? 215 00:12:42,443 --> 00:12:46,871 In Bolivia, for example, if a man sexually assaults a poor child, 216 00:12:46,871 --> 00:12:51,544 statistically, he's at greater risk of slipping in the shower and dying 217 00:12:51,544 --> 00:12:54,942 than he is of ever going to jail for that crime. 218 00:12:56,002 --> 00:13:00,687 In South Asia, if you enslave a poor person, 219 00:13:00,687 --> 00:13:03,610 you're at greater risk of being struck by lightning 220 00:13:03,610 --> 00:13:06,660 than ever being sent to jail for that crime. 221 00:13:06,660 --> 00:13:11,639 And so the epidemic of everyday violence, it just rages on. 222 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:15,738 And it devastates our efforts to try to help billions of people 223 00:13:15,738 --> 00:13:19,315 out of their two-dollar-a-day hell. 224 00:13:19,315 --> 00:13:21,817 Because the data just doesn't lie. 225 00:13:21,817 --> 00:13:24,876 It turns out that you can give all manner of goods and services 226 00:13:24,876 --> 00:13:26,029 to the poor, 227 00:13:26,029 --> 00:13:29,155 but if you don't restrain the hands of the violent bullies 228 00:13:29,155 --> 00:13:30,990 from taking it all away, 229 00:13:30,990 --> 00:13:35,349 you're going to be very disappointed in the long-term impact of your efforts. 230 00:13:35,889 --> 00:13:39,660 So you would think that the disintegration of basic law enforcement 231 00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:42,675 in the developing world would be a huge priority 232 00:13:42,675 --> 00:13:45,915 for the global fight against poverty. 233 00:13:45,915 --> 00:13:48,048 But it's not. 234 00:13:49,028 --> 00:13:52,825 Auditors of international assistance recently couldn't find 235 00:13:52,825 --> 00:13:56,659 even one percent of aid going to protect the poor 236 00:13:56,659 --> 00:14:00,990 from the lawless chaos of everyday violence. 237 00:14:00,990 --> 00:14:04,296 And honestly, when we do talk about violence against the poor, 238 00:14:04,296 --> 00:14:07,805 sometimes it's in the weirdest of ways. 239 00:14:07,805 --> 00:14:10,888 A fresh water organization tells a heart-wrenching story 240 00:14:10,888 --> 00:14:14,480 of girls who are raped on the way to fetching water, 241 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,290 and then celebrates the solution of a new well 242 00:14:18,290 --> 00:14:21,745 that drastically shortens their walk. 243 00:14:21,745 --> 00:14:23,953 End of story. 244 00:14:24,863 --> 00:14:30,353 But not a word about the rapists who are still right there in the community. 245 00:14:31,813 --> 00:14:34,127 If a young woman on one of our college campuses 246 00:14:34,127 --> 00:14:37,273 was raped on her walk to the library, 247 00:14:37,273 --> 00:14:43,121 we would never celebrate the solution of moving the library closer to the dorm. 248 00:14:43,121 --> 00:14:47,112 And yet, for some reason, this is okay for poor people. 249 00:14:48,915 --> 00:14:51,469 Now the truth is, the traditional experts 250 00:14:51,469 --> 00:14:53,775 in economic development and poverty alleviation, 251 00:14:53,775 --> 00:14:56,035 they don't know how to fix this problem. 252 00:14:56,035 --> 00:14:57,856 And so what happens? 253 00:14:57,856 --> 00:14:59,947 They don't talk about it. 254 00:15:01,237 --> 00:15:05,408 But the more fundamental reason 255 00:15:05,408 --> 00:15:08,188 that law enforcement for the poor in the developing world 256 00:15:08,188 --> 00:15:10,072 is so neglected, 257 00:15:10,072 --> 00:15:13,957 is because the people inside the developing world, with money, 258 00:15:13,957 --> 00:15:16,075 don't need it. 259 00:15:17,165 --> 00:15:19,745 I was at the World Economic Forum not long ago 260 00:15:19,745 --> 00:15:23,689 talking to corporate executives who have massive businesses in the developing world 261 00:15:23,689 --> 00:15:25,771 and I was just asking them, 262 00:15:25,771 --> 00:15:31,325 "How do you guys protect all your people and property from all the violence?" 263 00:15:31,325 --> 00:15:36,147 And they looked at each other, and they said, practically in unison, 264 00:15:36,147 --> 00:15:38,174 "We buy it." 265 00:15:39,474 --> 00:15:43,336 Indeed, private security forces in the developing world 266 00:15:43,336 --> 00:15:50,146 are now, four, five and seven times larger than the public police force. 267 00:15:50,146 --> 00:15:57,608 In Africa, the largest employer on the continent now is private security. 268 00:15:58,884 --> 00:16:02,702 But see, the rich can pay for safety and can keep getting richer, 269 00:16:02,702 --> 00:16:06,504 but the poor can't pay for it and they're left totally unprotected 270 00:16:06,504 --> 00:16:09,074 and they keep getting thrown to the ground. 271 00:16:10,464 --> 00:16:14,896 This is a massive and scandalous outrage. 272 00:16:14,896 --> 00:16:17,849 And it doesn't have to be this way. 273 00:16:17,849 --> 00:16:20,416 Broken law enforcement can be fixed. 274 00:16:20,416 --> 00:16:22,496 Violence can be stopped. 275 00:16:22,496 --> 00:16:24,888 Almost all criminal justice systems, 276 00:16:24,888 --> 00:16:27,417 they start out broken and corrupt, 277 00:16:27,417 --> 00:16:31,687 but they can be transformed by fierce effort and commitment. 278 00:16:31,687 --> 00:16:33,930 The path forward is really pretty clear. 279 00:16:33,930 --> 00:16:37,377 Number one: We have to start making 280 00:16:37,377 --> 00:16:41,144 stopping violence indispensable to the fight against poverty. 281 00:16:41,144 --> 00:16:43,578 In fact, any conversation about global poverty 282 00:16:43,578 --> 00:16:48,172 that doesn't include the problem of violence must be deemed not serious. 283 00:16:49,416 --> 00:16:53,792 And secondly, we have to begin to seriously invest resources 284 00:16:53,792 --> 00:16:57,729 and share expertise to support the developing world 285 00:16:57,729 --> 00:17:01,086 as they fashion new, public systems of justice, 286 00:17:01,086 --> 00:17:02,652 not private security, 287 00:17:02,652 --> 00:17:05,299 that give everybody a chance to be safe. 288 00:17:06,349 --> 00:17:09,031 These transformations are actually possible 289 00:17:09,031 --> 00:17:11,640 and they're happening today. 290 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,778 Recently, the Gates Foundation funded a project 291 00:17:14,778 --> 00:17:17,254 in the second largest city of the Philippines, 292 00:17:17,254 --> 00:17:20,260 where local advocates and local law enforcement 293 00:17:20,260 --> 00:17:27,118 were able to transform corrupt police and broken courts so drastically, 294 00:17:27,118 --> 00:17:29,705 that in just four short years, 295 00:17:29,705 --> 00:17:32,177 they were able to measurably reduce 296 00:17:32,177 --> 00:17:37,671 the commercial sexual violence against poor kids by 79 percent. 297 00:17:39,758 --> 00:17:43,302 You know, from the hindsight of history, 298 00:17:43,302 --> 00:17:48,859 what's always most inexplicable and inexcusable 299 00:17:48,859 --> 00:17:52,080 are the simple failures of compassion. 300 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,208 Because I think history convenes a tribunal of our grandchildren 301 00:17:58,208 --> 00:17:59,969 and they just ask us, 302 00:17:59,969 --> 00:18:03,211 "Grandma, Grandpa, where were you? 303 00:18:04,211 --> 00:18:07,766 Where were you, Grandpa, when the Jews were fleeing Nazi Germany 304 00:18:07,766 --> 00:18:09,695 and were being rejected from our shores? 305 00:18:09,695 --> 00:18:11,823 Where were you? 306 00:18:11,823 --> 00:18:14,223 And Grandma, where were you when they were marching 307 00:18:14,223 --> 00:18:18,276 our Japanese-American neighbors off to internment camps? 308 00:18:18,276 --> 00:18:20,665 And Grandpa, where were you when they were beating 309 00:18:20,665 --> 00:18:22,938 our African-American neighbors 310 00:18:22,938 --> 00:18:26,458 just because they were trying to register to vote?" 311 00:18:26,458 --> 00:18:30,702 Likewise, when our grandchildren ask us, 312 00:18:30,702 --> 00:18:33,143 "Grandma, Grandpa, where were you 313 00:18:33,143 --> 00:18:37,636 when two billion of the world's poorest were drowning in a lawless chaos 314 00:18:37,636 --> 00:18:40,337 of everyday violence?" 315 00:18:41,287 --> 00:18:47,852 I hope we can say that we had compassion, that we raised our voice, 316 00:18:47,852 --> 00:18:55,684 and as a generation, we were moved to make the violence stop. 317 00:18:55,684 --> 00:18:58,141 Thank you very much. 318 00:18:58,141 --> 00:19:01,830 (Applause) 319 00:19:13,890 --> 00:19:16,785 Chris Anderson: Really powerfully argued. 320 00:19:16,785 --> 00:19:19,064 Talk to us a bit about some of the things 321 00:19:19,064 --> 00:19:25,588 that have actually been happening to, for example, boost police training. 322 00:19:25,588 --> 00:19:27,427 How hard a process is that? 323 00:19:27,427 --> 00:19:31,009 GH: Well, one of the glorious things that's starting to happen now 324 00:19:31,009 --> 00:19:35,619 is that the collapse of these systems and the consequences are becoming obvious. 325 00:19:35,619 --> 00:19:38,981 There's actually, now, political will to do that. 326 00:19:38,981 --> 00:19:43,106 But it just requires now an investment of resources and transfer of expertise. 327 00:19:43,106 --> 00:19:46,509 There's a political will struggle that's going to take place as well, 328 00:19:46,509 --> 00:19:48,324 but those are winnable fights, 329 00:19:48,324 --> 00:19:50,623 because we've done some examples around the world 330 00:19:50,623 --> 00:19:53,732 at International Justice Mission that are very encouraging. 331 00:19:53,732 --> 00:19:57,233 CA: So just tell us in one country, how much it costs 332 00:19:57,233 --> 00:20:00,748 to make a material difference to police, for example -- 333 00:20:00,748 --> 00:20:02,538 I know that's only one piece of it. 334 00:20:02,538 --> 00:20:05,754 GH: In Guatemala, for instance, we've started a project there 335 00:20:05,754 --> 00:20:09,006 with the local police and court system, prosecutors, 336 00:20:09,006 --> 00:20:12,819 to retrain them so that they can actually effectively bring these cases. 337 00:20:12,819 --> 00:20:17,131 And we've seen prosecutions against perpetrators of sexual violence 338 00:20:17,131 --> 00:20:19,967 increase by more than 1,000 percent. 339 00:20:19,967 --> 00:20:24,356 This project has been very modestly funded at about a million dollars a year, 340 00:20:24,356 --> 00:20:26,662 and the kind of bang you can get for your buck 341 00:20:26,662 --> 00:20:30,838 in terms of leveraging a criminal justice system 342 00:20:30,838 --> 00:20:35,595 that could function if it were properly trained and motivated and led, 343 00:20:35,595 --> 00:20:38,138 and these countries, especially a middle class 344 00:20:38,138 --> 00:20:41,282 that is seeing that there's really no future 345 00:20:41,282 --> 00:20:45,150 with this total instability and total privatization of security 346 00:20:45,150 --> 00:20:48,341 I think there's an opportunity, a window for change. 347 00:20:48,341 --> 00:20:53,418 CA: But to make this happen, you have to look at each part in the chain -- 348 00:20:53,421 --> 00:20:55,676 the police, who else? 349 00:20:55,676 --> 00:20:57,957 GH: So that's the thing about law enforcement, 350 00:20:57,957 --> 00:20:59,400 it starts out with the police, 351 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,083 they're the front end of the pipeline of justice, 352 00:21:02,083 --> 00:21:04,030 but they hand if off to the prosecutors, 353 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:06,265 and the prosecutors hand it off to the courts, 354 00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:09,557 and the survivors of violence have to be supported by social services 355 00:21:09,557 --> 00:21:10,863 all the way through that. 356 00:21:10,863 --> 00:21:13,675 So you have to do an approach that pulls that all together. 357 00:21:13,675 --> 00:21:16,726 In the past, there's been a little bit of training of the courts, 358 00:21:16,726 --> 00:21:18,900 but they get crappy evidence from the police, 359 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:22,537 or a little police intervention that has to do with narcotics or terrorism 360 00:21:22,537 --> 00:21:25,405 but nothing to do with treating the common poor person 361 00:21:25,405 --> 00:21:26,924 with excellent law enforcement, 362 00:21:26,924 --> 00:21:28,949 so it's about pulling that all together, 363 00:21:28,949 --> 00:21:32,091 and you can actually have people in very poor communities 364 00:21:32,091 --> 00:21:34,274 experience law enforcement like us, 365 00:21:34,274 --> 00:21:37,096 which is imperfect in our own experience, for sure, 366 00:21:37,096 --> 00:21:40,228 but boy, is it a great thing to sense that you can call 911 367 00:21:40,228 --> 00:21:43,264 and maybe someone will protect you. 368 00:21:43,264 --> 00:21:45,537 CA: Gary, I think you've done a spectacular job 369 00:21:45,537 --> 00:21:47,664 of bringing this to the world's attention 370 00:21:47,664 --> 00:21:49,411 in your book and right here today. 371 00:21:49,411 --> 00:21:50,505 Thanks so much. 372 00:21:50,505 --> 00:21:51,281 Gary Haugen. 373 00:21:51,281 --> 00:21:53,114 (Applause)