[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.35,0:00:11.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I thought I'd talk about identity. Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.25,0:00:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's sort of\Nan interesting enough topic to me. Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.77,0:00:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the reason was,\Nbecause when I was asked to do this, Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.95,0:00:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd just read, in one of the papers,\NI can't remember, Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.51,0:00:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something from someone\Nat Facebook saying, well, Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.65,0:00:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"we need to make everybody\Nuse their real names" Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.89,0:00:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then that's basically\Nall the problems solved. Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.24,0:00:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's so wrong, Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.86,0:00:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's such a fundamentally,\Nreactionary view of identity, Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.80,0:00:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's going to get us\Ninto all sorts of trouble. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.90,0:00:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so what I thought I'd do Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.40,0:00:41.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is I'll explain four\Nsort of problems about it, Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.57,0:00:43.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I'll suggest a solution, Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.53,0:00:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which hopefully\Nyou might find interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.54,0:00:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So just to frame the problem, Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.65,0:00:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what does authenticity mean? Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.24,0:00:53.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's me,\Nthat's a camera phone picture of me Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.100,0:00:55.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at a painting. Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.31,0:00:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[What's the Problem?] Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.34,0:00:58.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a painting that was painted Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.07,0:00:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a very famous forger, Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.25,0:01:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and because I'm not very good\Nat presentations, Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.51,0:01:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I already can't remember the name\Nthat I wrote on my card. Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.26,0:01:08.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was incarcerated in,\NI think, Wakefield Prison Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.13,0:01:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for forging masterpieces by,\NI think, French Impressionists. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.70,0:01:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he's so good at it,\Nthat when he was in prison, Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.72,0:01:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody in prison,\Nthe governor and whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.90,0:01:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted him to paint masterpieces\Nto put on the walls, Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.34,0:01:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were so good. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.76,0:01:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that's a masterpiece, Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.25,0:01:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a fake of a masterpiece, Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.93,0:01:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bonded into the canvas is a chip\Nwhich identifies that as a real fake, Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.44,0:01:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you see what I mean. Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.97,0:01:33.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.16,0:01:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when we're talking about authenticity, Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.41,0:01:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a little more fractal than it appears\Nand that's a good example to show it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.87,0:01:44.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to pick four problems\Nthat will frame the issue properly. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.73,0:01:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the first problem, I thought, Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.29,0:01:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chip and PIN, right? Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.60,0:01:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm guessing everyone's got\Na chip and PIN card, right? Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.95,0:01:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why is that a good example? Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.72,0:01:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the example of how\Nlegacy thinking about identity Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.19,0:02:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subverts the security\Nof a well-constructed system. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.11,0:02:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That chip and PIN card\Nthat's in your pocket Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.90,0:02:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has a little chip on it\Nthat cost millions of pounds to develop, Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.14,0:02:08.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is extremely secure, Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.72,0:02:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can put scanning\Nelectron microscopes on it, Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.88,0:02:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can try and grind it down,\Nblah blah blah. Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.06,0:02:16.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those chips have never been broken,\Nwhatever you read in the paper. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.65,0:02:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for a joke,\Nwe take that super-secure chip Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.88,0:02:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we bond it to a trivially\Ncounterfeitable magnetic stripe Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.40,0:02:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for very lazy criminals,\Nwe still emboss the card. Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.02,0:02:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you're a criminal in a hurry\Nand you need to copy someone's card, Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.52,0:02:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can just stick a piece of paper on it\Nand rub a pencil over it Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.63,0:02:35.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to sort of speed things up. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.21,0:02:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even more amusingly,\Nand on my debit card too, Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.70,0:02:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we print the name and the SALT code\Nand everything else on the front too. Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.17,0:02:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.44,0:02:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no earthly reason why your name\Nis printed on a chip and PIN card. Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.54,0:02:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you think about it, Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.18,0:02:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's even more insidious and perverse\Nthan it seems at first. Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.30,0:02:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the only people that benefit Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.11,0:02:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from having the name\Non the card are criminals. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.68,0:02:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what your name is, right? Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.33,0:02:59.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.23,0:03:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you go into\Na shop and buy something, Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.48,0:03:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a PIN, he doesn't care\Nwhat the name is. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.82,0:03:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only place where you ever have\Nto write your name on the back Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.04,0:03:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is in America at the moment. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.37,0:03:09.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And whenever I go to America, Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.87,0:03:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have to pay with a mag stripe\Non the back of the card, Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.66,0:03:15.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always sign it Carlos Tethers anyway,\Njust as a security mechanism, Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.82,0:03:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if a transaction\Never gets disputed, Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.84,0:03:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it comes back and it says Dave Birch,\NI know it must have been a criminal, Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.47,0:03:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I would never sign it Dave Birch. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.76,0:03:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.21,0:03:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you drop your card in the street, Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.24,0:03:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means a criminal\Ncan pick it up and read it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.50,0:03:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They know the name,\Nfrom it they can find the address, Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.99,0:03:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they can\Ngo off and buy stuff online. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.13,0:03:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do we put the name on the card? Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.27,0:03:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we think identity\Nis something to do with names, Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.99,0:03:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and because we're rooted\Nin the idea of the identity card, Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.69,0:03:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which obsesses us. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.80,0:03:47.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know it crashed and burned\Na couple of years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.49,0:03:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you're someone in politics\Nor the home office or whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.95,0:03:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you think about identity, Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.17,0:03:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can only think of identity in terms\Nof cards with names on them. Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.46,0:03:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's very subversive\Nin a modern world. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.72,0:04:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the second example I thought I'd use Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.98,0:04:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is chatrooms. Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.62,0:04:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chatrooms and Children] Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.84,0:04:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm very proud of that picture,\Nthat's my son Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.04,0:04:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,playing in his band with his friends\Nfor the first-ever gig, Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.11,0:04:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe you call it, where he got paid. Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.08,0:04:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.87,0:04:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I love that picture. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.74,0:04:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like the picture of him\Ngetting into medical school a lot better, Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.14,0:04:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.21,0:04:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like that picture for the moment. Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.32,0:04:22.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do I use that picture? Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.67,0:04:27.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that was very interesting,\Nwatching that experience as an old person. Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.39,0:04:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So him and his friends, Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.83,0:04:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they get together, they booked a room,\Nlike a church hall, Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.71,0:04:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they got all their friends\Nwho had bands, Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.78,0:04:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they got them together,\Nand they do it all on Facebook, Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.57,0:04:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they sell tickets,\Nand the first band on the - Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.85,0:04:41.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was going to say "menu," Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.35,0:04:43.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's probably the wrong word for it,\Nisn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.83,0:04:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first band on the list of bands Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.64,0:04:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that appears at some\Npublic music performance of some kind Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.64,0:04:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets the sales from the first 20 tickets, Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.02,0:04:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the next band gets the next 20, Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.84,0:04:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.82,0:04:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were at the bottom of the menu, Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.58,0:04:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were like fifth,\NI thought they had no chance. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.04,0:05:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He actually got 20 quid.\NFantastic, right? Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.99,0:05:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But my point is,\Nthat all worked perfectly, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.04,0:05:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except on the web. Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.42,0:05:07.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they're sitting on Facebook, Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.61,0:05:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're sending these messages\Nand arranging things Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.48,0:05:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they don't know who anybody is, right? Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.80,0:05:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the big problem\Nwe're trying to solve. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.94,0:05:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If only they were using the real names. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.88,0:05:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you wouldn't be worried\Nabout them on the internet. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.56,0:05:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so when he says to me, Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.01,0:05:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"oh, I want to go to a chatroom\Nto talk about guitars" or something, Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.70,0:05:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like, "oh, well,\NI don't want you to go into a chatroom Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.95,0:05:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk about guitars, because\Nthey might not all be your friends, Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.30,0:05:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some of the people\Nthat are in the chatroom Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.74,0:05:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be perverts and teachers\Nand vicars." Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.12,0:05:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.95,0:05:41.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, they generally are,\Nwhen you look in the paper, right? Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.87,0:05:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I want to know who\Nall the people in the chatroom are. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.93,0:05:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So okay, you can go in the chatroom, Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.73,0:05:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but only if everybody in the chatroom\Nis using their real names, Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.76,0:05:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they submit full copies\Nof their police report. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.06,0:05:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But of course, if anybody in the chatroom\Nasked for his real name, I'd say no. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.82,0:05:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't give them your real name. Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.69,0:06:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because what happens\Nif they turn out to be perverts, Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.26,0:06:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and teachers and whatever. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.48,0:06:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have this odd sort of paradox Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.57,0:06:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I'm happy for him\Nto go into this space Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.76,0:06:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I know who everybody else is, Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.81,0:06:13.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I don't want anybody else\Nto know who he is. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.17,0:06:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so you get this sort of logjam\Naround identity Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.58,0:06:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you want full disclosure\Nfrom everybody else, Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.96,0:06:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not from yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.42,0:06:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's no progress, we get stuck. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.50,0:06:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the chatroom thing\Ndoesn't work properly, Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.88,0:06:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's a very bad way\Nof thinking about identity. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.96,0:06:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So on my RSS feed,\NI saw this thing about - Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.90,0:06:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just said something bad\Nabout my RSS feed, didn't I? Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.46,0:06:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should stop saying it like that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.25,0:06:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For some random reason,\NI can't imagine, Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.14,0:06:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something about cheerleaders\Nturned up in my inbox. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.59,0:06:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I read this story about cheerleaders,\Nand it's a fascinating story. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.78,0:06:43.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This happened a couple of years ago\Nin the U.S. Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.89,0:06:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were some cheerleaders\Nin a team at a high school Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.80,0:06:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the U.S., and they said mean things Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.18,0:06:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about their cheerleading coach, Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.73,0:06:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I'm sure kids do\Nabout all of their teachers Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.98,0:06:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of the time, Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.91,0:06:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and somehow the cheerleading coach\Nfound out about this. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.60,0:06:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was very upset. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.82,0:06:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so she went to one of the girls,\Nand said, Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.99,0:07:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"you have to give me\Nyour Facebook password." Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.04,0:07:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I read this all the time,\Nwhere even at some universities Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.78,0:07:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and places of education, Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.16,0:07:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kids are forced to hand over\Ntheir Facebook passwords. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.65,0:07:10.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got to give them\Nyour Facebook password. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.77,0:07:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was a kid! Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.95,0:07:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What she should have said is,\N"my lawyer will be calling you Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.76,0:07:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first thing in the morning. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.01,0:07:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an outrageous imposition\Non my 4th Amendment right to privacy, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.33,0:07:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're going to be sued\Nfor all the money you've got." Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.88,0:07:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She should have said that. Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.13,0:07:25.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But she's a kid,\Nso she hands over the password. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.47,0:07:27.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The teacher can't log into Facebook, Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.17,0:07:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the school\Nhas blocked access to Facebook. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.57,0:07:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the teacher can't log into Facebook\Nuntil she gets home. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.29,0:07:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the girl tells her friends,\Nguess what happened? Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.64,0:07:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The teacher logged in, she knows. Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.30,0:07:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the girls just all logged into Facebook\Non their phones, Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.15,0:07:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and deleted their profiles. Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.47,0:07:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when the teacher logged in,\Nthere was nothing there. Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.12,0:07:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My point is, those identities,\Nthey don't think about them the same way. Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.34,0:07:51.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Identity is, especially\Nwhen you're a teenager, a fluid thing. Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.07,0:07:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have lots of identities. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.68,0:07:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can have an identity,\Nyou don't like it, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.92,0:07:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's subverted in some way,\Nor it's insecure, or it's inappropriate, Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.55,0:08:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just delete it and get another one. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.60,0:08:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea that you have an identity\Nthat's given to you by someone, Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.78,0:08:05.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the government or whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.13,0:08:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to stick with that identity\Nand use it in all places, Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.26,0:08:09.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's absolutely wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.65,0:08:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why would you want to really know\Nwho someone was on Facebook, Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.62,0:08:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless you wanted to abuse them\Nand harass them in some way? Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.56,0:08:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it just doesn't work properly. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.36,0:08:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my fourth example\Nis there are some cases Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.52,0:08:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you really want to be - Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.76,0:08:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In case you're wondering,\Nthat's me at the G20 protest. Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.34,0:08:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't actually at the G20 protest,\Nbut I had a meeting at a bank Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.01,0:08:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the day of the G20 protest,\Nand I got an email from the bank Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.44,0:08:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying please don't wear a suit,\Nbecause it'll inflame the protestors. Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.88,0:08:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I look pretty good in a suit, frankly, Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.78,0:08:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you can see why it would drive them\Ninto an anti-capitalist frenzy. (Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.62,0:08:43.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I thought, well, look. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.83,0:08:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I don't want to inflame the protestors, Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.55,0:08:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the obvious thing to do\Nis go dressed as a protestor. Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.04,0:08:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went dressed completely in black, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.94,0:08:53.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, with a black balaclava,\NI had black gloves on, Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.62,0:08:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I've taken them off\Nto sign the visitor's book. Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.92,0:08:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm wearing black trousers, black boots, Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.05,0:08:59.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm dressed completely in black. Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.80,0:09:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I go into the bank at 10 o'clock,\Ngo, "Hi, I'm Dave Birch, Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.54,0:09:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got a 3 o'clock\Nwith so and so there." Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.55,0:09:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sure. They sign me in.\NThere's my visitor's badge. Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.02,0:09:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.98,0:09:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this nonsense Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.29,0:09:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about you've got to have real names\Non Facebook and whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.31,0:09:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that gets you that kind of security. Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.09,0:09:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That gets you security theater,\Nwhere there's no actual security, Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.10,0:09:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but people are sort of playing parts\Nin a play about security. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.44,0:09:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as long as everybody learns\Ntheir lines, Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.54,0:09:24.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone's happy. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.41,0:09:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not real security. Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.96,0:09:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially because I hate banks\Nmore than the G20 protestors do, Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.21,0:09:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I work for them. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.39,0:09:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that things are actually worse\Nthan these guys think. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.22,0:09:35.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.58,0:09:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But suppose I worked\Nnext to somebody in a bank Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.68,0:09:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was doing something. Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.12,0:09:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those people\Nwho take the money from banks... Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.17,0:09:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traders - that's who I was thinking of. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.32,0:09:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Suppose I was sitting\Nnext to a rogue trader, Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.64,0:09:56.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to report it\Nto the boss of the bank. Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.93,0:09:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I log on\Nto do a little bit of whistleblowing. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.25,0:10:01.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I send a message,\Nthis guy's a rogue trader. Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.33,0:10:02.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That message is meaningless Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.63,0:10:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you don't know\Nthat I'm a trader at the bank. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.57,0:10:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that message just comes from anybody, Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.57,0:10:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has zero information value. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.16,0:10:12.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no point in sending that message. Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.17,0:10:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if I have to prove who I am, Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.94,0:10:18.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll never send that message. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.41,0:10:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just like the nurse in the hospital\Nreporting the drunk surgeon. Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.20,0:10:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That message will only happen\Nif I'm anonymous. Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.12,0:10:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the system has to have ways\Nof providing anonymity there, Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.61,0:10:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,otherwise we don't get\Nwhere we want to get to. Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.86,0:10:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So four issues.\NSo what are we going to do about it? Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.84,0:10:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, what we tend to do about it Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.53,0:10:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is we think about Orwell space. Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.92,0:10:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we try to make electronic versions Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.06,0:10:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the identity card\Nthat we got rid of in 1953. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.37,0:10:50.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we think if we had a card, Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.13,0:10:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,call it a Facebook login, Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.47,0:10:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which proves who you are, Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.76,0:10:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I make you carry it all the time,\Nthat solves the problem. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.82,0:10:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, for all those reasons\NI've just outlined, Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.47,0:11:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't, and it might, actually,\Nmake some problems worse. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.31,0:11:03.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more times you're forced\Nto use your real identity, Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.100,0:11:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certainly in transactional terms, Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.90,0:11:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more likely that identity\Nis to get stolen and subverted. Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.81,0:11:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The goal is to stop people\Nfrom using identity Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.03,0:11:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in transactions which don't need identity, Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.10,0:11:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is actually almost all transactions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.22,0:11:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Almost all of the transactions you do Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.22,0:11:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not, who are you? Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.58,0:11:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're, are you allowed to drive the car, Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.71,0:11:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you allowed in the building,\Nare you over 18, etcetera, etcetera. Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.16,0:11:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my suggestion - I, like James, Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.06,0:11:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that there should be\Na resurgence of interest in R & D. Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.98,0:11:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this is a solvable problem. Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.75,0:11:33.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's something we can do about. Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.35,0:11:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Naturally, in these circumstances,\NI turn to Doctor Who. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.98,0:11:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because in this, Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.83,0:11:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as in so many other walks of life, Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.78,0:11:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctor Who has already shown us\Nthe answer. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.69,0:11:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I should say, Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.70,0:11:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some of our foreign visitors, Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.03,0:11:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctor Who is the greatest\Nliving scientist in England, Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.88,0:11:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.46,0:11:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a beacon of truth and enlightenment\Nto all of us. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.26,0:11:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is Doctor Who\Nwith his psychic paper. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.10,0:12:00.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on, you guys must have seen\NDoctor Who's psychic paper. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.93,0:12:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not nerds if you say yes. Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.50,0:12:04.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who's seen Doctor Who's psychic paper? Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.63,0:12:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh right, you were in the library\Nthe whole time studying I guess. Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.86,0:12:09.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that what you're going to tell us? Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.71,0:12:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctor Who's psychic paper Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.02,0:12:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is when you hold up the psychic paper, Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.90,0:12:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the person, in their brain, Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.29,0:12:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sees the thing that they need to see. Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.40,0:12:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I want to show you a British passport, Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.76,0:12:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hold up the psychic paper,\Nyou see a British passport. Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.42,0:12:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to get into a party, Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.06,0:12:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hold up the psychic paper, Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.67,0:12:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I show you a party invitation. Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.15,0:12:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see what you want to see. Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.20,0:12:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what I'm saying is we need\Nto make an electronic version of that, Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.42,0:12:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but with one tiny, tiny change, Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.61,0:12:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is that it'll only show you\Nthe British passport Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.13,0:12:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I've actually got one. Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.42,0:12:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It'll only show you the party invitation\Nif I actually have one. Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.50,0:12:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will only show you that I'm over 18\Nif I actually am. Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.52,0:12:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But nothing else. Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.39,0:12:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you're the bouncer at the pub,\Nyou need to know that I'm over 18, Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.87,0:12:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of showing you my driving license, Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.99,0:12:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which shows you I know how to drive, Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.03,0:12:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what my name is, my address,\Nall these kind of things, Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.76,0:12:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I show you my psychic paper, Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.20,0:13:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all it tells you\Nis am I over 18 or not. Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.37,0:13:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right. Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.80,0:13:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that just a pipe dream? Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.14,0:13:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course not, otherwise\NI wouldn't be here talking to you. Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.95,0:13:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in order to build that\Nand make it work, Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.09,0:13:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm only going to name these things,\NI'll not go into them, Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.89,0:13:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need a plan, Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.87,0:13:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is we're going to build this Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.58,0:13:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an infrastructure for everybody to use, Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.60,0:13:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to solve all of these problems. Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.23,0:13:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to make a utility, Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.04,0:13:21.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the utility has to be universal, Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.59,0:13:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can use it everywhere, Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.95,0:13:26.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just giving you little flashes\Nof the technology as we go along. Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.23,0:13:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a Japanese ATM, Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.49,0:13:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fingerprint template\Nis stored inside the mobile phone. Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.38,0:13:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when you want to draw money out, Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.28,0:13:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you put the mobile phone on the ATM,\Nand touch your finger, Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.14,0:13:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your fingerprint goes through\Nto the phone, Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.25,0:13:38.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the phone says yes, that's whoever, Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.97,0:13:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the ATM then gives you some money. Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.93,0:13:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be a utility\Nthat you can use everywhere. Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.32,0:13:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be absolutely convenient, Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.05,0:13:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's me going into the pub. Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.88,0:13:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the device on the door of the pub\Nis allowed is, Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.68,0:13:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is this person over 18\Nand not barred from the pub? Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.35,0:13:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the idea is,\Nyou touch your ID card to the door, Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.60,0:13:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if I am allowed in,\Nit shows my picture, Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.79,0:14:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I'm not allowed in,\Nit shows a red cross. Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.82,0:14:03.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't disclose any other information.\N Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.76,0:14:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to have no special gadgets.\NThat can only mean one thing, Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.80,0:14:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,following on from Ross's statement,\Nwhich I agree with completely. Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.97,0:14:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it means no special gadgets,\Nit has to run on a mobile phone. Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.85,0:14:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the only choice we have,\Nwe have to make it work on mobile phones. Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.19,0:14:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are 6.6 billion\Nmobile phone subscriptions. Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.53,0:14:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My favorite statistic of all time,\Nonly 4 billion toothbrushes in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.07,0:14:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That means something, Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.59,0:14:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what.\N(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.94,0:14:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I rely on our futurologists to tell me. Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.93,0:14:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be a utility\Nwhich is extensible. Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.98,0:14:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it has to be something\Nthat anybody could build on. Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.57,0:14:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody should be able\Nto use this infrastructure, Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.96,0:14:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't need permissions,\Nlicenses, whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.23,0:14:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anyone should be able\Nto write some code to do this. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.89,0:14:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what symmetry is, Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.15,0:14:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you don't need a picture of it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.50,0:14:46.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is how we're going to do it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.15,0:14:48.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to do it using phones,\Nusing mobile proximity. Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.81,0:14:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to suggest to you\Nthe technology to implement Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.51,0:14:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctor Who's psychic paper\Nis already here, Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.60,0:14:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if any of you have got one of the new\NBarclay's debit cards Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.65,0:14:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the contactless interface on it, Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.48,0:15:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've already got that technology. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.22,0:15:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you've ever been up to the big city, Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.01,0:15:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and used an Oyster card at all, Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.60,0:15:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does that ring any bells to anybody? Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.80,0:15:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The technology already exists. Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.36,0:15:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first phones\Nthat have the technology built in, Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.74,0:15:10.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Google Nexus, the S2,\Nthe Samsung Wifi 7.9, Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.98,0:15:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first phones that have\Nthe technology built into them Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.70,0:15:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are already in the shops. Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.02,0:15:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the idea that the gas man Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.40,0:15:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can turn up at my mom's door Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.90,0:15:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he can show my mom his phone, Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.10,0:15:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she can tap it with her phone, Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.76,0:15:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it will come up with green\Nif he really is from British Gas Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.82,0:15:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and allowed in, Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.84,0:15:28.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it'll come up with red if he isn't. Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.07,0:15:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have the technology to do that. Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.74,0:15:30.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's more, Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.89,0:15:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although some of those things\Nsounded a bit counter-intuitive, Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.82,0:15:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like proving I'm over 18\Nwithout proving who I am, Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.22,0:15:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cryptography to do that\Nnot only exists, Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.41,0:15:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's extremely well-known\Nand well-understood. Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.62,0:15:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Digital signatures, the blinding\Nof public key certificates, Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.51,0:15:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these technologies have been around\Nfor a while, Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.80,0:15:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've just had no way\Nof packaging them up. Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.90,0:15:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the technology already exists. Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.54,0:15:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know it works. Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.38,0:15:54.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are a few examples\Nof the technology being used Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.91,0:15:55.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in experimental places. Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.100,0:15:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's London Fashion Week, Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.32,0:15:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we built a system with O2, Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.20,0:16:01.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's for the Wireless Festival\Nin Hyde Park, Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.97,0:16:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can see the persons Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.09,0:16:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walking in with their VIP band,\Nit's just being checked Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.76,0:16:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the Nokia phone\Nthat's reading the band. Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.79,0:16:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm only putting those up to show you\Nthese things are prosaic, Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.76,0:16:12.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this stuff works in these environments. Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.67,0:16:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't need to be special. Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.42,0:16:18.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So finally, I know that you can do this, Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.50,0:16:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if you saw\Nthe episode of Doctor Who, Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.40,0:16:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Easter special of Doctor Who, Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.30,0:16:27.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where he went to Mars in a bus, Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.65,0:16:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should say again\Nfor our foreign students, Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.80,0:16:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that doesn't happen every episode. Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.53,0:16:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was a very special case. Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.02,0:16:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in the episode where he goes\Nto Mars in a London bus, Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.79,0:16:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't show you the clip, Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.30,0:16:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,due to the outrageous restrictions\Nof Queen Anne-style copyright Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.40,0:16:41.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the BBC, Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.100,0:16:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the episode where he goes\Nto Mars in a London bus, Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.83,0:16:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doctor Who is clearly shown\Ngetting on to the bus Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.09,0:16:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Oyster card reader Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.39,0:16:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using his psychic paper. Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.96,0:16:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which proves that psychic paper Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.05,0:16:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has an MSE interface. Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.76,0:16:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much.\N(Applause)