WEBVTT 00:00:01.067 --> 00:00:03.952 I made a film that was impossible to make, 00:00:03.952 --> 00:00:07.603 but I didn't know it was impossible, 00:00:07.603 --> 00:00:10.395 and that's how I was able to do it. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:10.395 --> 00:00:12.855 "Mars et Avril" is a science fiction film. 00:00:12.855 --> 00:00:17.053 It's set in Montreal some 50 years in the future. 00:00:17.053 --> 00:00:19.255 No one had done that kind of movie in Quebec before 00:00:19.255 --> 00:00:22.937 because it's expensive, it's set in the future, 00:00:22.937 --> 00:00:24.597 and it's got tons of visual effects, 00:00:24.597 --> 00:00:27.028 and it's shot on green screen. 00:00:27.028 --> 00:00:29.179 Yet this is the kind of movie that I wanted to make 00:00:29.179 --> 00:00:31.164 ever since I was a kid, really, 00:00:31.164 --> 00:00:33.273 back when I was reading some comic books 00:00:33.273 --> 00:00:36.869 and dreaming about what the future might be. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:36.869 --> 00:00:39.505 When American producers see my film, 00:00:39.505 --> 00:00:42.789 they think that I had a big budget to do it, 00:00:42.789 --> 00:00:45.908 like 23 million. 00:00:45.908 --> 00:00:48.894 But in fact I had 10 percent of that budget. 00:00:48.894 --> 00:00:51.443 I did "Mars et Avril" for only 2.3 million. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:51.443 --> 00:00:52.539 So you might wonder, what's the deal here? 00:00:52.539 --> 00:00:55.092 How did I do this? 00:00:55.092 --> 00:00:58.329 Well, it's two things. First, it's time. 00:00:58.329 --> 00:01:01.110 When you don't have money, you must take time, 00:01:01.110 --> 00:01:05.002 and it took me seven years to do "Mars et Avril." 00:01:05.002 --> 00:01:08.332 The second aspect is love. 00:01:08.332 --> 00:01:11.870 I got tons and tons of generosity from everyone involved. 00:01:11.870 --> 00:01:14.040 And it seems like every department had nothing, 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:17.068 so they had to rely on our creativity 00:01:17.068 --> 00:01:19.642 and turn every problem into an opportunity. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:19.642 --> 00:01:21.668 And that brings me to the point of my talk, actually, 00:01:21.668 --> 00:01:25.808 how constraints, big creative constraints, can boost creativity. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:25.808 --> 00:01:29.216 But let me go back in time a bit. 00:01:29.216 --> 00:01:32.373 In my early 20s, I did some graphic novels, 00:01:32.373 --> 00:01:34.407 but they weren't your usual graphic novels. 00:01:34.407 --> 00:01:36.900 They were books telling a science fiction story 00:01:36.900 --> 00:01:39.605 through images and text, 00:01:39.605 --> 00:01:43.188 and most of the actors who are now starring 00:01:43.188 --> 00:01:45.246 in the movie adaptation, they were already involved 00:01:45.246 --> 00:01:48.840 in these books portraying characters 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:54.387 into a sort of experimental, theatrical, simplistic way. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:54.387 --> 00:01:58.090 And one of these actors is the great stage director 00:01:58.090 --> 00:01:59.534 and actor Robert Lepage. 00:01:59.534 --> 00:02:01.055 And I just love this guy. 00:02:01.055 --> 00:02:04.500 I've been in love with this guy since I was a kid. 00:02:04.500 --> 00:02:07.303 His career I admire a lot. 00:02:07.303 --> 00:02:10.236 And I wanted this guy to be involved in my crazy project, 00:02:10.236 --> 00:02:14.396 and he was kind enough to lend his image 00:02:14.396 --> 00:02:16.059 to the character of Eugène Spaak, 00:02:16.059 --> 00:02:20.681 who is a cosmologist and artist who seeks relation 00:02:20.681 --> 00:02:26.151 in between time, space, love, music and women. 00:02:26.151 --> 00:02:29.706 And he was a perfect fit for the part, 00:02:29.706 --> 00:02:32.890 and Robert is actually the one who gave me my first chance. 00:02:32.890 --> 00:02:35.226 He was the one who believed in me 00:02:35.226 --> 00:02:38.803 and encouraged me to do an adaptation of my books 00:02:38.803 --> 00:02:41.758 into a film, and to write, direct, 00:02:41.758 --> 00:02:43.810 and produce the film myself. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:43.810 --> 00:02:47.620 And Robert is actually the very first example 00:02:47.620 --> 00:02:51.504 of how constraints can boost creativity. 00:02:51.504 --> 00:02:54.171 Because this guy is the busiest man on the planet. 00:02:54.171 --> 00:02:57.294 I mean, his agenda is booked until 2042, 00:02:57.294 --> 00:03:01.134 and he's really hard to get, 00:03:01.134 --> 00:03:04.017 and I wanted him to be in the movie, 00:03:04.017 --> 00:03:05.922 to reprise his role in the movie. 00:03:05.922 --> 00:03:08.918 But the thing is, had I waited 00:03:08.918 --> 00:03:11.470 for him until 2042, my film wouldn't be 00:03:11.470 --> 00:03:15.266 a futuristic film anymore, so I just couldn't do that. Right? 00:03:15.266 --> 00:03:16.950 But that's kind of a big problem. 00:03:16.950 --> 00:03:20.243 How do you get somebody who is too busy 00:03:20.243 --> 00:03:22.369 to star in a movie? NOTE Paragraph 00:03:22.369 --> 00:03:26.271 Well, I said as a joke in a production meeting -- 00:03:26.271 --> 00:03:28.016 and this is a true story, by the way — 00:03:28.016 --> 00:03:30.928 I said, "Why don't we turn this guy into a hologram? 00:03:30.928 --> 00:03:33.091 Because, you know, he is everywhere 00:03:33.091 --> 00:03:34.957 and nowhere on the planet at the same time, 00:03:34.957 --> 00:03:37.528 and he's an illuminated being in my mind, 00:03:37.528 --> 00:03:41.782 and he's in between reality and virtual reality, 00:03:41.782 --> 00:03:43.756 so it would make perfect sense 00:03:43.756 --> 00:03:46.006 to turn this guy into a hologram." NOTE Paragraph 00:03:46.006 --> 00:03:48.326 Everybody around the table laughed, 00:03:48.326 --> 00:03:50.862 but the joke was kind of a good solution, 00:03:50.862 --> 00:03:53.318 so that's what we ended up doing. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:53.318 --> 00:03:57.021 Here's how we did it. We shot Robert with six cameras. 00:03:57.021 --> 00:03:59.463 He was dressed in green and he was like 00:03:59.463 --> 00:04:01.207 in a green aquarium. 00:04:01.207 --> 00:04:03.985 Each camera was covering 60 degrees of his head, 00:04:03.985 --> 00:04:06.598 so that in post-production we could use 00:04:06.598 --> 00:04:08.490 pretty much any angle we needed, 00:04:08.490 --> 00:04:10.902 and we shot only his head. 00:04:10.902 --> 00:04:13.408 Six months later there was a guy on set, 00:04:13.408 --> 00:04:15.238 a mime portraying the body, 00:04:15.238 --> 00:04:17.678 the vehicle for the head. 00:04:17.678 --> 00:04:20.929 And he was wearing a green hood 00:04:20.929 --> 00:04:24.111 so that we could erase the green hood in postproduction 00:04:24.111 --> 00:04:26.398 and replace it with Robert Lepage's head. 00:04:26.398 --> 00:04:28.406 So he became like a renaissance man, 00:04:28.406 --> 00:04:30.456 and here's what it looks like in the movie. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:30.456 --> 00:04:42.776 (Music) NOTE Paragraph 00:04:42.776 --> 00:04:44.944 (Video) Robert Lepage: [As usual, Arthur's drawing 00:04:44.944 --> 00:04:47.138 didn't account for the technical challenges. 00:04:47.138 --> 00:04:51.081 I welded the breech, but the valve is still gaping. 00:04:51.081 --> 00:04:55.364 I tried to lift the pallets to lower the pressure in the sound box, 00:04:55.364 --> 00:04:59.296 but I might have hit a heartstring. 00:04:59.296 --> 00:05:01.678 It still sounds too low.] 00:05:01.678 --> 00:05:02.609 Jacques Languirand: [That's normal. 00:05:02.609 --> 00:05:05.771 The instrument always ends up resembling its model.] 00:05:05.771 --> 00:05:11.301 (Music) NOTE Paragraph 00:05:26.266 --> 00:05:29.684 Martin Villeneuve: Now these musical instruments 00:05:29.684 --> 00:05:31.828 that you see in this excerpt, 00:05:31.828 --> 00:05:34.335 they're my second example of how 00:05:34.335 --> 00:05:36.727 constraints can boost creativity, 00:05:36.727 --> 00:05:39.947 because I desperately needed these objects in my movie. 00:05:39.947 --> 00:05:41.648 They are objects of desire. 00:05:41.648 --> 00:05:44.043 They are imaginary musical instruments. 00:05:44.043 --> 00:05:46.123 And they carry a nice story with them. 00:05:46.123 --> 00:05:50.777 Actually, I knew what these things would look like 00:05:50.777 --> 00:05:52.607 in my mind for many, many years. 00:05:52.607 --> 00:05:56.820 But my problem was, I didn't have the money 00:05:56.820 --> 00:05:59.601 to pay for them. I couldn't afford them. 00:05:59.601 --> 00:06:02.032 So that's kind of a big problem too. 00:06:02.032 --> 00:06:05.633 How do you get something that you can't afford? NOTE Paragraph 00:06:05.633 --> 00:06:09.593 And, you know, I woke up one morning with a pretty good idea. 00:06:09.593 --> 00:06:13.756 I said, "What if I have somebody else pay for them?" 00:06:13.756 --> 00:06:16.617 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:06:16.617 --> 00:06:20.345 But who on Earth would be interested 00:06:20.345 --> 00:06:23.561 by seven not-yet-built musical instruments 00:06:23.561 --> 00:06:25.261 inspired by women's bodies? 00:06:25.261 --> 00:06:28.175 And I thought of Cirque du Soleil in Montreal, 00:06:28.175 --> 00:06:31.533 because who better to understand the kind of 00:06:31.533 --> 00:06:34.212 crazy poetry that I wanted to put on screen? 00:06:34.212 --> 00:06:37.386 So I found my way to Guy Laliberté, Cirque du Soleil's CEO, 00:06:37.386 --> 00:06:40.154 and I presented my crazy idea to him 00:06:40.154 --> 00:06:43.388 with sketches like this and visual references, 00:06:43.388 --> 00:06:46.115 and something pretty amazing happened. 00:06:46.115 --> 00:06:48.466 Guy was interested by this idea 00:06:48.466 --> 00:06:51.771 not because I was asking for his money, 00:06:51.771 --> 00:06:55.197 but because I came to him with a good idea 00:06:55.197 --> 00:06:56.919 in which everybody was happy. 00:06:56.919 --> 00:06:59.028 It was kind of a perfect triangle 00:06:59.028 --> 00:07:02.515 in which the art buyer was happy 00:07:02.515 --> 00:07:05.455 because he got the instruments at a cheaper price, 00:07:05.455 --> 00:07:07.328 because they weren't even made. 00:07:07.328 --> 00:07:08.937 He took a leap of faith. 00:07:08.937 --> 00:07:12.794 And the artist, Dominique Engel, brilliant guy, 00:07:12.794 --> 00:07:15.623 he was happy too because he had a dream project 00:07:15.623 --> 00:07:17.104 to work on for a year. 00:07:17.104 --> 00:07:20.918 And obviously I was happy because I got the instruments 00:07:20.918 --> 00:07:25.726 in my film for free, which was kind of what I tried to do. 00:07:25.726 --> 00:07:27.444 So here they are. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:27.444 --> 00:07:30.918 And my last example of how constraints 00:07:30.918 --> 00:07:32.427 can boost creativity 00:07:32.427 --> 00:07:36.037 comes from the green, 00:07:36.037 --> 00:07:39.880 because this is a weird color, a crazy color, 00:07:39.880 --> 00:07:42.942 and you need to replace the green screens eventually 00:07:42.942 --> 00:07:45.763 and you must figure that out sooner rather than later. 00:07:45.763 --> 00:07:49.936 And I had, again, pretty much, ideas in my mind 00:07:49.936 --> 00:07:51.952 as to what the world would be, 00:07:51.952 --> 00:07:57.030 but then again I turned to my childhood imagination 00:07:57.030 --> 00:08:00.593 and went to the work of Belgian comic book master 00:08:00.593 --> 00:08:03.241 François Schuiten in Belgium. 00:08:03.241 --> 00:08:06.561 And this guy is another guy I admire a lot, 00:08:06.561 --> 00:08:09.033 and I wanted him to be involved in the movie 00:08:09.033 --> 00:08:11.281 as a production designer. 00:08:11.281 --> 00:08:13.618 But people told me, you know, Martin, it's impossible, 00:08:13.618 --> 00:08:16.305 the guy is too busy and he will say no. 00:08:16.305 --> 00:08:20.159 Well, I said, you know what, instead of mimicking his style, 00:08:20.159 --> 00:08:22.158 I might as well call the real guy and ask him, 00:08:22.158 --> 00:08:24.834 and I sent him my books, 00:08:24.834 --> 00:08:26.857 and he answered that he was interested 00:08:26.857 --> 00:08:28.678 in working on the film with me 00:08:28.678 --> 00:08:32.862 because he could be a big fish in a small aquarium. 00:08:32.862 --> 00:08:36.756 In other words, there was space for him to dream with me. 00:08:36.756 --> 00:08:39.590 So here I was with one of my childhood heroes, 00:08:39.590 --> 00:08:42.535 drawing every single frame that's in the film 00:08:42.535 --> 00:08:45.749 to turn that into Montreal in the future. 00:08:45.749 --> 00:08:47.873 And it was an amazing collaboration 00:08:47.873 --> 00:08:50.526 to work with this great artist whom I admire. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:50.526 --> 00:08:54.214 But then, you know, eventually you have to turn 00:08:54.214 --> 00:08:56.238 all these drawings into reality. 00:08:56.238 --> 00:08:59.367 So, again, my solution was to aim 00:08:59.367 --> 00:09:02.474 for the best possible artist that I could think of. 00:09:02.474 --> 00:09:05.875 And there's this guy in Montreal, another Quebecois 00:09:05.875 --> 00:09:09.857 called Carlos Monzon, and he's a very good VFX artist. 00:09:09.857 --> 00:09:13.339 This guy had been lead compositor on such films 00:09:13.339 --> 00:09:16.286 as "Avatar" and "Star Trek" and "Transformers," 00:09:16.286 --> 00:09:18.519 and other unknown projects like this, 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:21.433 and I knew he was the perfect fit for the job, 00:09:21.433 --> 00:09:22.976 and I had to convince him, 00:09:22.976 --> 00:09:26.407 and, instead of working on the next Spielberg movie, 00:09:26.407 --> 00:09:28.463 he accepted to work on mine. 00:09:28.463 --> 00:09:32.250 Why? Because I offered him a space to dream. 00:09:32.250 --> 00:09:35.664 So if you don't have money to offer to people, 00:09:35.664 --> 00:09:38.879 you must strike their imagination with something 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:41.391 as nice as you can think of. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:41.391 --> 00:09:43.767 So this is what happened on this movie, 00:09:43.767 --> 00:09:45.108 and that's how it got made, 00:09:45.108 --> 00:09:48.239 and we went to this very nice postproduction company 00:09:48.239 --> 00:09:50.311 in Montreal called Vision Globale, 00:09:50.311 --> 00:09:54.948 and they lent their 60 artists to work full time 00:09:54.948 --> 00:09:57.894 for six months to do this crazy film. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:57.894 --> 00:10:02.683 So I want to tell you that, if you have some crazy ideas 00:10:02.683 --> 00:10:04.356 in your mind, and that people tell you 00:10:04.356 --> 00:10:05.843 that it's impossible to make, 00:10:05.843 --> 00:10:08.438 well, that's an even better reason to want to do it, 00:10:08.438 --> 00:10:10.538 because people have a tendency 00:10:10.538 --> 00:10:13.869 to see the problems rather than the final result, 00:10:13.869 --> 00:10:16.651 whereas if you start to deal with problems 00:10:16.651 --> 00:10:19.453 as being your allies rather than your opponents, 00:10:19.453 --> 00:10:21.964 life will start to dance with you 00:10:21.964 --> 00:10:23.520 in the most amazing way. 00:10:23.520 --> 00:10:25.208 I have experienced it. 00:10:25.208 --> 00:10:28.267 And you might end up doing some crazy projects, 00:10:28.267 --> 00:10:31.206 and who knows, you might even end up 00:10:31.206 --> 00:10:33.470 going to Mars. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:33.470 --> 00:10:35.171 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:35.171 --> 00:10:38.386 (Applause)