1 00:00:01,089 --> 00:00:05,153 Oliver was an extremely dashing, 2 00:00:05,153 --> 00:00:09,974 handsome, charming and largely unstable male 3 00:00:09,974 --> 00:00:13,159 that I completely lost my heart to. 4 00:00:13,159 --> 00:00:16,080 (Laughter) 5 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:17,746 He was a Bernese mountain dog, 6 00:00:17,746 --> 00:00:20,929 and my ex-husband and I adopted him, 7 00:00:20,929 --> 00:00:22,618 and about six months in, 8 00:00:22,618 --> 00:00:25,182 we realized that he was a mess. 9 00:00:25,182 --> 00:00:27,962 He had such paralyzing separation anxiety 10 00:00:27,962 --> 00:00:29,498 that we couldn't leave him alone. 11 00:00:29,498 --> 00:00:32,626 Once, he jumped out of our third floor apartment. 12 00:00:32,626 --> 00:00:37,047 He ate fabric. He ate things, recyclables. 13 00:00:37,047 --> 00:00:38,952 He hunted flies that didn't exist. 14 00:00:38,952 --> 00:00:40,681 He suffered from hallucinations. 15 00:00:40,681 --> 00:00:43,985 He was diagnosed with a canine compulsive disorder 16 00:00:43,985 --> 00:00:47,331 and that's really just the tip of the iceberg. 17 00:00:47,331 --> 00:00:51,432 But like with humans, 18 00:00:51,432 --> 00:00:54,543 sometimes it's six months in 19 00:00:54,543 --> 00:00:56,580 before you realize that 20 00:00:56,580 --> 00:00:59,527 the person that you love has some issues. 21 00:00:59,527 --> 00:01:00,938 (Laughter) 22 00:01:00,938 --> 00:01:04,872 And most of us do not take the person we're dating 23 00:01:04,872 --> 00:01:07,008 back to the bar where we met them 24 00:01:07,008 --> 00:01:11,344 or give them back to the friend that introduced us, 25 00:01:11,344 --> 00:01:14,098 or sign them back up on Match.com. 26 00:01:14,098 --> 00:01:16,928 (Laughter) 27 00:01:16,928 --> 00:01:18,727 We love them anyway, 28 00:01:18,727 --> 00:01:20,723 and we stick to it, 29 00:01:20,723 --> 00:01:24,955 and that is what I did with my dog. 30 00:01:24,955 --> 00:01:28,757 And I was a — I'd studied biology. 31 00:01:28,757 --> 00:01:31,377 I have a Ph.D. in history of science 32 00:01:31,377 --> 00:01:32,882 from MIT, 33 00:01:32,882 --> 00:01:34,580 and had you asked me 10 years ago 34 00:01:34,580 --> 00:01:36,989 if a dog I loved, or just dogs generally, 35 00:01:36,989 --> 00:01:38,825 had emotions, I would have said yes, 36 00:01:38,825 --> 00:01:40,289 but I'm not sure that I would have told you 37 00:01:40,289 --> 00:01:42,587 that they can also wind up with an anxiety disorder, 38 00:01:42,587 --> 00:01:46,678 a Prozac prescription and a therapist. 39 00:01:46,678 --> 00:01:50,624 But then, I fell in love, and I realized that they can, 40 00:01:50,624 --> 00:01:53,250 and actually trying to help my own dog 41 00:01:53,250 --> 00:01:55,864 overcome his panic and his anxiety, 42 00:01:55,864 --> 00:01:58,227 it just changed my life. 43 00:01:58,227 --> 00:02:00,764 It cracked open my world. 44 00:02:00,764 --> 00:02:03,131 And I spent the last seven years, actually, 45 00:02:03,131 --> 00:02:05,730 looking into this topic of mental illness in other animals. 46 00:02:05,730 --> 00:02:07,075 Can they be mentally ill like people, 47 00:02:07,075 --> 00:02:10,080 and if so, what does it mean about us? 48 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,879 And what I discovered is that I do believe 49 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:14,819 they can suffer from mental illness, 50 00:02:14,819 --> 00:02:19,295 and actually looking and trying to identify mental illness in them 51 00:02:19,295 --> 00:02:21,377 often helps us be better friends to them 52 00:02:21,377 --> 00:02:25,431 and also can help us better understand ourselves. 53 00:02:25,431 --> 00:02:28,877 So let's talk about diagnosis for a minute. 54 00:02:28,877 --> 00:02:31,558 Many of us think that we can't know 55 00:02:31,558 --> 00:02:34,021 what another animal is thinking, 56 00:02:34,021 --> 00:02:35,299 and that is true, 57 00:02:35,299 --> 00:02:37,891 but any of you in relationships — 58 00:02:37,891 --> 00:02:39,747 at least this is my case — 59 00:02:39,747 --> 00:02:41,547 just because you ask someone that you're with 60 00:02:41,547 --> 00:02:43,741 or your parent or your child how they feel 61 00:02:43,741 --> 00:02:45,551 doesn't mean that they can tell you. 62 00:02:45,551 --> 00:02:47,869 They may not have words to explain 63 00:02:47,869 --> 00:02:48,932 what it is that they're feeling, 64 00:02:48,932 --> 00:02:50,775 and they may not know. 65 00:02:50,775 --> 00:02:52,640 It's actually a pretty recent phenomenon 66 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,386 that we feel that we have to talk to someone 67 00:02:54,386 --> 00:02:56,790 to understand their emotional distress. 68 00:02:56,790 --> 00:02:59,217 Before the early 20th century, 69 00:02:59,217 --> 00:03:01,737 physicians often diagnosed emotional distress 70 00:03:01,737 --> 00:03:05,235 in their patients just by observation. 71 00:03:05,235 --> 00:03:06,918 It also turns out that thinking about 72 00:03:06,918 --> 00:03:08,513 mental illness in other animals 73 00:03:08,513 --> 00:03:10,706 isn't actually that much of a stretch. 74 00:03:10,706 --> 00:03:12,619 Most mental disorders in the United States 75 00:03:12,619 --> 00:03:15,339 are fear and anxiety disorders, 76 00:03:15,339 --> 00:03:17,308 and when you think about it, fear and anxiety 77 00:03:17,308 --> 00:03:21,500 are actually really extremely helpful animal emotions. 78 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:24,600 Usually we feel fear and anxiety in situations that are dangerous, 79 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,897 and once we feel them, 80 00:03:25,897 --> 00:03:27,526 we then are motivated to move away 81 00:03:27,526 --> 00:03:29,357 from whatever is dangerous. 82 00:03:29,357 --> 00:03:34,326 The problem is when we begin to feel fear and anxiety in situations that don't call for it. 83 00:03:34,326 --> 00:03:37,536 Mood disorders, too, may actually just be 84 00:03:37,536 --> 00:03:41,042 the unfortunate downside of being a feeling animal, 85 00:03:41,042 --> 00:03:44,207 and obsessive compulsive disorders also 86 00:03:44,207 --> 00:03:47,616 are often manifestations of a really healthy animal thing 87 00:03:47,616 --> 00:03:50,396 which is keeping yourself clean and groomed. 88 00:03:50,396 --> 00:03:52,544 This tips into the territory of mental illness 89 00:03:52,544 --> 00:03:53,690 when you do things like 90 00:03:53,690 --> 00:03:56,293 compulsively over-wash your hands or paws, 91 00:03:56,293 --> 00:03:58,359 or you develop a ritual that's so extreme 92 00:03:58,359 --> 00:04:00,451 that you can't sit down to a bowl of food 93 00:04:00,451 --> 00:04:03,443 unless you engage in that ritual. 94 00:04:03,443 --> 00:04:07,774 So for humans, we have the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual," 95 00:04:07,774 --> 00:04:09,901 which is basically an atlas 96 00:04:09,901 --> 00:04:12,634 of the currently agreed-upon mental disorders. 97 00:04:12,634 --> 00:04:15,885 In other animals, we have YouTube. 98 00:04:15,885 --> 00:04:17,491 (Laughter) 99 00:04:17,491 --> 00:04:20,138 This is just one search I did for "OCD dog" 100 00:04:20,138 --> 00:04:21,926 but I encourage all of you 101 00:04:21,926 --> 00:04:24,877 to look at "OCD cat." 102 00:04:24,877 --> 00:04:28,271 You will be shocked by what you see. 103 00:04:28,271 --> 00:04:32,770 I'm going to show you just a couple examples. 104 00:04:32,770 --> 00:04:35,492 This is an example of shadow-chasing. 105 00:04:35,492 --> 00:04:38,568 I know, and it's funny and in some ways it's cute. 106 00:04:38,568 --> 00:04:42,063 The issue, though, is that dogs can develop compulsions like this 107 00:04:42,063 --> 00:04:44,965 that they then engage in all day. 108 00:04:44,965 --> 00:04:46,237 So they won't go for a walk, 109 00:04:46,237 --> 00:04:47,891 they won't hang out with their friends, 110 00:04:47,891 --> 00:04:49,477 they won't eat. 111 00:04:49,477 --> 00:04:51,010 They'll develop fixations 112 00:04:51,010 --> 00:04:54,127 like chasing their tails compulsively. 113 00:04:54,127 --> 00:04:57,528 Here's an example of a cat named Gizmo. 114 00:04:57,528 --> 00:05:00,740 He looks like he's on a stakeout 115 00:05:00,740 --> 00:05:04,054 but he does this for many, many, many hours a day. 116 00:05:04,054 --> 00:05:07,558 He just sits there and he will paw and paw and paw 117 00:05:07,558 --> 00:05:09,092 at the screen. 118 00:05:09,092 --> 00:05:11,569 This is another example of what's considered 119 00:05:11,569 --> 00:05:13,353 a stereotypic behavior. 120 00:05:13,353 --> 00:05:16,060 This is a sun bear at the Oakland Zoo named Ting Ting. 121 00:05:16,060 --> 00:05:17,825 And if you just sort of happened upon this scene, 122 00:05:17,825 --> 00:05:18,776 you might think that Ting Ting 123 00:05:18,776 --> 00:05:20,490 is just playing with a stick, 124 00:05:20,490 --> 00:05:22,536 but Ting Ting does this all day, 125 00:05:22,536 --> 00:05:24,132 and if you pay close attention 126 00:05:24,132 --> 00:05:27,803 and if I showed you guys the full half-hour of this clip, 127 00:05:27,803 --> 00:05:29,829 you'd see that he does the exact same thing 128 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:31,978 in the exact same order, and he spins the stick 129 00:05:31,978 --> 00:05:34,328 in the exact same way every time. 130 00:05:34,328 --> 00:05:36,820 Other super common behaviors that you may see, 131 00:05:36,820 --> 00:05:38,644 particularly in captive animals, 132 00:05:38,644 --> 00:05:43,204 are pacing stereotypies or swaying stereotypies, 133 00:05:43,204 --> 00:05:44,880 and actually, humans do this too, 134 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,624 and in us, we'll sway, 135 00:05:46,624 --> 00:05:48,211 we'll move from side to side. 136 00:05:48,211 --> 00:05:50,482 Many of us do this, and sometimes 137 00:05:50,482 --> 00:05:52,028 it's an effort to soothe ourselves, 138 00:05:52,028 --> 00:05:54,678 and I think in other animals that is often the case too. 139 00:05:54,678 --> 00:05:56,364 But it's not just stereotypic behaviors 140 00:05:56,364 --> 00:05:58,130 that other animals engage in. 141 00:05:58,130 --> 00:06:00,258 This is Gigi. She's a gorilla that lives 142 00:06:00,258 --> 00:06:01,919 at the Franklin Park Zoo in Boston. 143 00:06:01,919 --> 00:06:04,127 She actually has a Harvard psychiatrist, 144 00:06:04,127 --> 00:06:05,849 and she's been treated for a mood disorder 145 00:06:05,849 --> 00:06:07,432 among other things. 146 00:06:07,432 --> 00:06:10,427 Many animals develop mood disorders. 147 00:06:10,427 --> 00:06:11,855 Lots of creatures — 148 00:06:11,855 --> 00:06:13,390 this horse is just one example — 149 00:06:13,390 --> 00:06:15,072 develop self-destructive behaviors. 150 00:06:15,072 --> 00:06:16,357 They'll gnaw on things 151 00:06:16,357 --> 00:06:18,503 or do other things that may also soothe them, 152 00:06:18,503 --> 00:06:20,201 even if they're self-destructive, 153 00:06:20,201 --> 00:06:21,508 which could be considered similar 154 00:06:21,508 --> 00:06:25,249 to the ways that some humans cut themselves. 155 00:06:25,249 --> 00:06:26,562 Plucking. 156 00:06:26,562 --> 00:06:30,319 Turns out, if you have fur or feathers or skin, 157 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:32,294 you can pluck yourself compulsively, 158 00:06:32,294 --> 00:06:34,616 and some parrots actually have been studied 159 00:06:34,616 --> 00:06:37,714 to better understand trichotillomania, or compulsive plucking in humans, 160 00:06:37,714 --> 00:06:39,161 something that affects 161 00:06:39,161 --> 00:06:41,441 20 million Americans right now. 162 00:06:41,441 --> 00:06:43,509 Lab rats pluck themselves too. 163 00:06:43,509 --> 00:06:45,742 In them, it's called barbering. 164 00:06:45,742 --> 00:06:48,819 Canine veterans of conflicts of Iraq and Afghanistan 165 00:06:48,819 --> 00:06:51,800 are coming back with what's considered canine PTSD, 166 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,512 and they're having a hard time reentering civilian life 167 00:06:54,512 --> 00:06:55,797 when they come back from deployments. 168 00:06:55,797 --> 00:06:58,403 They can be too scared to approach men with beards 169 00:06:58,403 --> 00:07:01,116 or to hop into cars. 170 00:07:01,116 --> 00:07:03,882 I want to be careful and be clear, though. 171 00:07:03,882 --> 00:07:06,559 I do not think that canine PTSD 172 00:07:06,559 --> 00:07:09,360 is the same as human PTSD. 173 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,835 But I also do not think that my PTSD 174 00:07:11,835 --> 00:07:12,930 is like your PTSD, 175 00:07:12,930 --> 00:07:16,632 or that my anxiety or that my sadness is like yours. 176 00:07:16,632 --> 00:07:18,337 We are all different. 177 00:07:18,337 --> 00:07:21,172 We also all have very different susceptibilities. 178 00:07:21,172 --> 00:07:24,913 So two dogs, raised in the same household, 179 00:07:24,913 --> 00:07:27,260 exposed to the very same things, 180 00:07:27,260 --> 00:07:31,159 one may develop, say, a debilitating fear of motorcycles, 181 00:07:31,159 --> 00:07:33,907 or a phobia of the beep of the microwave, 182 00:07:33,907 --> 00:07:35,762 and another one is going to be just fine. 183 00:07:35,762 --> 00:07:38,595 So one thing that people ask me pretty frequently: 184 00:07:38,595 --> 00:07:40,538 Is this just an instance of humans 185 00:07:40,538 --> 00:07:42,167 driving other animals crazy? 186 00:07:42,167 --> 00:07:46,090 Or, is animal mental illness just a result of mistreatment or abuse? 187 00:07:46,090 --> 00:07:47,619 And it turns out we're actually 188 00:07:47,619 --> 00:07:51,174 so much more complicated than that. 189 00:07:51,174 --> 00:07:54,161 So one great thing that has happened to me 190 00:07:54,161 --> 00:07:57,410 is recently I published a book on this, 191 00:07:57,410 --> 00:08:01,355 and every day now that I open my email 192 00:08:01,355 --> 00:08:02,809 or when I go to a reading 193 00:08:02,809 --> 00:08:04,921 or even when I go to a cocktail party, 194 00:08:04,921 --> 00:08:06,822 people tell me their stories 195 00:08:06,822 --> 00:08:08,576 of the animals that they have met. 196 00:08:08,576 --> 00:08:11,020 And recently, I did a reading in California, 197 00:08:11,020 --> 00:08:13,450 and a woman raised her hand after the talk and she said, 198 00:08:13,450 --> 00:08:17,126 "Dr. Braitman, I think my cat has PTSD." 199 00:08:17,126 --> 00:08:20,490 And I said, "Well, why? Tell me a little bit about it." 200 00:08:20,490 --> 00:08:23,909 So, Ping is her cat. She was a rescue, 201 00:08:23,909 --> 00:08:26,631 and she used to live with an elderly man, 202 00:08:26,631 --> 00:08:28,902 and one day the man was vacuuming 203 00:08:28,902 --> 00:08:31,727 and he suffered a heart attack, and he died. 204 00:08:31,727 --> 00:08:34,661 A week later, Ping was discovered in the apartment 205 00:08:34,661 --> 00:08:36,655 alongside the body of her owner, 206 00:08:36,655 --> 00:08:40,042 and the vacuum had been running the entire time. 207 00:08:40,042 --> 00:08:45,350 For many months, up to I think two years after that incident, 208 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:47,960 she was so scared she couldn't be in the house when anyone was cleaning. 209 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,750 She was quite literally a scaredy cat. 210 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:52,190 She would hide in the closet. 211 00:08:52,190 --> 00:08:53,992 She was un-self-confident and shaky, 212 00:08:53,992 --> 00:08:56,330 but with the loving support of her family, 213 00:08:56,330 --> 00:08:58,726 a lot of a time, and their patience, 214 00:08:58,726 --> 00:08:59,980 now, three years later, 215 00:08:59,980 --> 00:09:03,225 she's actually a happy, confident cat. 216 00:09:03,225 --> 00:09:06,180 Another story of trauma and recovery that I came across 217 00:09:06,180 --> 00:09:07,676 was actually a few years ago. 218 00:09:07,676 --> 00:09:09,916 I was in Thailand to do some research. 219 00:09:09,916 --> 00:09:13,010 I met a monkey named Boonlua, 220 00:09:13,010 --> 00:09:15,282 and when Boonlua was a baby, 221 00:09:15,282 --> 00:09:17,296 he was attacked by a pack of dogs, 222 00:09:17,296 --> 00:09:22,140 and they ripped off both of his legs and one arm, 223 00:09:22,140 --> 00:09:25,283 and Boonlua dragged himself to a monastery, 224 00:09:25,283 --> 00:09:26,834 where the monks took him in. 225 00:09:26,834 --> 00:09:29,445 They called in a veterinarian, who treated his wounds. 226 00:09:29,445 --> 00:09:31,660 Eventually, Boonlua wound up 227 00:09:31,660 --> 00:09:33,453 at an elephant facility, 228 00:09:33,453 --> 00:09:36,422 and the keepers really decided to take him under their wing, 229 00:09:36,422 --> 00:09:37,785 and they figured out what he liked, 230 00:09:37,785 --> 00:09:39,804 which, it turned out, was mint Mentos 231 00:09:39,804 --> 00:09:43,281 and Rhinoceros beetles and eggs. 232 00:09:43,281 --> 00:09:46,453 But they worried, because he was social, that he was lonely, 233 00:09:46,453 --> 00:09:48,220 and they didn't want to put him in with another monkey, 234 00:09:48,220 --> 00:09:49,423 because they thought with just one arm, 235 00:09:49,423 --> 00:09:52,218 he wouldn't be able to defend himself or even play. 236 00:09:52,218 --> 00:09:54,704 And so they gave him a rabbit, 237 00:09:54,704 --> 00:09:57,517 and Boonlua was immediately a different monkey. 238 00:09:57,517 --> 00:09:59,499 He was extremely happy to be with this rabbit. 239 00:09:59,499 --> 00:10:01,779 They groomed each other, they become close friends, 240 00:10:01,779 --> 00:10:04,482 and then the rabbit had bunnies, 241 00:10:04,482 --> 00:10:07,339 and Boonlua was even happier than he was before, 242 00:10:07,339 --> 00:10:09,589 and it had in a way given him 243 00:10:09,589 --> 00:10:11,434 a reason to wake up in the morning, 244 00:10:11,434 --> 00:10:13,188 and in fact it gave him such a reason to wake up 245 00:10:13,188 --> 00:10:15,191 that he decided not to sleep. 246 00:10:15,191 --> 00:10:18,810 He became extremely protective of these bunnies, 247 00:10:18,810 --> 00:10:20,058 and he stopped sleeping, 248 00:10:20,058 --> 00:10:21,499 and he would sort of nod off 249 00:10:21,499 --> 00:10:23,390 while trying to take care of them. 250 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:25,833 In fact, he was so protective and so affectionate 251 00:10:25,833 --> 00:10:27,588 with these babies that the sanctuary 252 00:10:27,588 --> 00:10:29,950 eventually had to take them away from him 253 00:10:29,950 --> 00:10:31,885 because he was so protective, he was worried 254 00:10:31,885 --> 00:10:33,764 that their mother might hurt them. 255 00:10:33,764 --> 00:10:35,608 So after they were taken away, the sanctuary staff 256 00:10:35,608 --> 00:10:37,217 worried that he would fall into a depression, 257 00:10:37,217 --> 00:10:38,449 and so to avoid that, 258 00:10:38,449 --> 00:10:41,447 they gave him another rabbit friend. 259 00:10:41,447 --> 00:10:44,804 (Laughter) 260 00:10:44,804 --> 00:10:47,509 My official opinion is that he does not look depressed. 261 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:49,459 (Laughter) 262 00:10:49,459 --> 00:10:53,821 So one thing that I would really like people to feel 263 00:10:53,821 --> 00:10:56,900 is that you really should feel empowered 264 00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:59,373 to make some assumptions 265 00:10:59,373 --> 00:11:01,196 about the creatures that you know well. 266 00:11:01,196 --> 00:11:02,996 So when it comes to your dog 267 00:11:02,996 --> 00:11:05,314 or your cat or maybe your one-armed monkey 268 00:11:05,314 --> 00:11:06,742 that you happen to know, 269 00:11:06,742 --> 00:11:10,537 if you think that they are traumatized or depressed, 270 00:11:10,537 --> 00:11:12,663 you're probably right. 271 00:11:12,663 --> 00:11:15,471 This is extremely anthropomorphic, 272 00:11:15,471 --> 00:11:18,464 or the assignation of human characteristics 273 00:11:18,464 --> 00:11:22,116 onto non-human animals or things. 274 00:11:22,116 --> 00:11:24,257 I don't think, though, that that's a problem. 275 00:11:24,257 --> 00:11:26,349 I don't think that we can not anthropomorphize. 276 00:11:26,349 --> 00:11:29,251 It's not as if you can take your human brain out of your head 277 00:11:29,251 --> 00:11:31,355 and put it in a jar and then use it 278 00:11:31,355 --> 00:11:33,560 to think about another animal thinking. 279 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:36,158 We will always be one animal wondering 280 00:11:36,158 --> 00:11:38,678 about the emotional experience of another animal. 281 00:11:38,678 --> 00:11:41,671 So then the choice becomes, how do you anthropomorphize well? 282 00:11:41,671 --> 00:11:43,931 Or do you anthropomorphize poorly? 283 00:11:43,931 --> 00:11:46,215 And anthropomorphizing poorly 284 00:11:46,215 --> 00:11:48,380 is all too common. 285 00:11:48,380 --> 00:11:50,012 (Laughter) 286 00:11:50,012 --> 00:11:52,616 It may include dressing your corgis up and throwing them a wedding, 287 00:11:52,616 --> 00:11:55,272 or getting too close to exotic wildlife because 288 00:11:55,272 --> 00:11:57,228 you believe that you had a spiritual connection. 289 00:11:57,228 --> 00:11:59,206 There's all manner of things. 290 00:11:59,206 --> 00:12:03,112 Anthropomorphizing well, however, I believe is based 291 00:12:03,112 --> 00:12:05,830 on accepting our animal similarities with other species 292 00:12:05,830 --> 00:12:08,637 and using them to make assumptions 293 00:12:08,637 --> 00:12:12,276 that are informed about other animals' minds and experiences, 294 00:12:12,276 --> 00:12:14,822 and there's actually an entire industry 295 00:12:14,822 --> 00:12:17,792 that is in some ways based on anthropomorphizing well, 296 00:12:17,792 --> 00:12:20,953 and that is the psychopharmaceutical industry. 297 00:12:20,953 --> 00:12:25,473 One in five Americans is currently taking a psychopharmaceutical drug, 298 00:12:25,473 --> 00:12:28,128 from the antidepressants and antianxiety medications 299 00:12:28,128 --> 00:12:29,950 to the antipsychotics. 300 00:12:29,950 --> 00:12:31,784 It turns out that we owe this 301 00:12:31,784 --> 00:12:34,157 entire psychopharmaceutical arsenal 302 00:12:34,157 --> 00:12:35,889 to other animals. 303 00:12:35,889 --> 00:12:38,399 These drugs were tested in non-human animals first, 304 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:42,335 and not just for toxicity but for behavioral effects. 305 00:12:42,335 --> 00:12:45,519 The very popular antipsychotic Thorazine 306 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:49,265 first relaxed rats before it relaxed people. 307 00:12:49,265 --> 00:12:51,426 The antianxiety medication Librium 308 00:12:51,426 --> 00:12:55,249 was given to cats selected for their meanness in the 1950s 309 00:12:55,249 --> 00:12:57,640 and made them into peaceable felines. 310 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,200 And even antidepressants were first tested in rabbits. 311 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,104 Today, however, we are not just giving these drugs 312 00:13:05,104 --> 00:13:07,455 to other animals as test subjects, 313 00:13:07,455 --> 00:13:09,946 but they're giving them these drugs as patients, 314 00:13:09,946 --> 00:13:14,429 both in ethical and much less ethical ways. 315 00:13:14,429 --> 00:13:18,299 SeaWorld gives mother orcas antianxiety medications 316 00:13:18,299 --> 00:13:20,943 when their calves are taken away. 317 00:13:20,943 --> 00:13:23,226 Many zoo gorillas have been given antipsychotics 318 00:13:23,226 --> 00:13:25,292 and antianxiety medications. 319 00:13:25,292 --> 00:13:28,165 But dogs like my own Oliver 320 00:13:28,165 --> 00:13:31,404 are given antidepressants and some antianxiety medications 321 00:13:31,404 --> 00:13:33,140 to keep them from jumping out of buildings 322 00:13:33,140 --> 00:13:35,203 or jumping into traffic. 323 00:13:35,203 --> 00:13:38,402 Just recently, actually, a study came out in "Science" 324 00:13:38,402 --> 00:13:40,231 that showed that even crawdads 325 00:13:40,231 --> 00:13:42,455 responded to antianxiety medication. 326 00:13:42,455 --> 00:13:44,730 It made them braver, less skittish, 327 00:13:44,730 --> 00:13:49,780 and more likely to explore their environment. 328 00:13:49,780 --> 00:13:52,138 It's hard to know how many animals are on these drugs, 329 00:13:52,138 --> 00:13:55,602 but I can tell you that the animal pharmaceutical industry 330 00:13:55,602 --> 00:13:57,390 is immense and growing, 331 00:13:57,390 --> 00:14:00,113 from seven billion dollars in 2011 332 00:14:00,113 --> 00:14:05,692 to a projected 9.25 billion by the year 2015. 333 00:14:05,692 --> 00:14:09,539 Some animals are on these drugs indefinitely. 334 00:14:09,539 --> 00:14:13,774 Others, like one bonobo who lives in Milwaukee 335 00:14:13,774 --> 00:14:15,360 at the zoo there was on them 336 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,511 until he started to save his Paxil prescription 337 00:14:17,511 --> 00:14:19,907 and then distribute it among the other bonobos. 338 00:14:19,907 --> 00:14:24,916 (Laughter) (Applause) 339 00:14:24,916 --> 00:14:27,805 More than psychopharmaceuticals, though, 340 00:14:27,805 --> 00:14:30,320 there are many, many, many other 341 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,968 therapeutic interventions that help other creatures. 342 00:14:32,968 --> 00:14:35,330 And here is a place where I think actually 343 00:14:35,330 --> 00:14:37,772 that veterinary medicine can teach something 344 00:14:37,772 --> 00:14:39,458 to human medicine, 345 00:14:39,458 --> 00:14:41,348 which is, if you take your dog, who is, say, 346 00:14:41,348 --> 00:14:43,148 compulsively chasing his tail, 347 00:14:43,148 --> 00:14:44,926 into the veterinary behaviorist, 348 00:14:44,926 --> 00:14:47,730 their first action isn't to reach for the prescription pad; 349 00:14:47,730 --> 00:14:50,686 it's to ask you about your dog's life. 350 00:14:50,686 --> 00:14:53,622 They want to know how often your dog gets outside. 351 00:14:53,622 --> 00:14:56,276 They want to know how much exercise your dog is getting. 352 00:14:56,276 --> 00:14:57,761 They want to know how much social time 353 00:14:57,761 --> 00:15:00,180 with other dogs and other humans. 354 00:15:00,180 --> 00:15:02,390 They want to talk to you about what sorts of therapies, 355 00:15:02,390 --> 00:15:04,905 largely behavior therapies, 356 00:15:04,905 --> 00:15:07,165 you've tried with that animal. 357 00:15:07,165 --> 00:15:09,562 Those are the things that often tend to help the most, 358 00:15:09,562 --> 00:15:12,891 especially when combined with psychopharmaceuticals. 359 00:15:12,891 --> 00:15:15,344 The thing, though, I believe, that helps the most, 360 00:15:15,344 --> 00:15:17,301 particularly with social animals, 361 00:15:17,301 --> 00:15:20,439 is time with other social animals. 362 00:15:20,439 --> 00:15:24,347 In many ways, I feel like I became a service animal 363 00:15:24,347 --> 00:15:26,851 to my own dog, 364 00:15:26,851 --> 00:15:30,878 and I have seen parrots do it for people 365 00:15:30,878 --> 00:15:32,588 and people do it for parrots 366 00:15:32,588 --> 00:15:34,126 and dogs do it for elephants 367 00:15:34,126 --> 00:15:37,304 and elephants do it for other elephants. 368 00:15:37,304 --> 00:15:38,637 I don't know about you; 369 00:15:38,637 --> 00:15:41,217 I get a lot of Internet forwards 370 00:15:41,217 --> 00:15:43,433 of unlikely animal friendships. 371 00:15:43,433 --> 00:15:46,720 I also think it's a huge part of Facebook, 372 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,597 the monkey that adopts the cat 373 00:15:49,597 --> 00:15:54,233 or the great dane who adopted the orphaned fawn, 374 00:15:54,233 --> 00:15:57,237 or the cow that makes friends with the pig, 375 00:15:57,237 --> 00:16:01,173 and had you asked me eight, nine years ago, about these, 376 00:16:01,173 --> 00:16:03,663 I would have told you that they were hopelessly sentimental 377 00:16:03,663 --> 00:16:06,786 and maybe too anthropomorphic in the wrong way 378 00:16:06,786 --> 00:16:09,565 and maybe even staged, and what I can tell you now 379 00:16:09,565 --> 00:16:12,517 is that there is actually something to this. 380 00:16:12,517 --> 00:16:16,112 This is legit. In fact, some interesting studies 381 00:16:16,112 --> 00:16:18,038 have pointed to oxytocin levels, 382 00:16:18,038 --> 00:16:20,634 which are a kind of bonding hormone 383 00:16:20,634 --> 00:16:23,040 that we release when we're having sex or nursing 384 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,629 or around someone that we care for extremely, 385 00:16:25,629 --> 00:16:28,121 oxytocin levels raising in both humans and dogs 386 00:16:28,121 --> 00:16:29,515 who care about each other 387 00:16:29,515 --> 00:16:31,175 or who enjoy each other's company, 388 00:16:31,175 --> 00:16:33,484 and beyond that, other studies show that oxytocin 389 00:16:33,484 --> 00:16:35,620 raised even in other pairs of animals, 390 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:39,225 so, say, in goats and dogs who were friends and played with each other, 391 00:16:39,225 --> 00:16:43,684 their levels spiked afterwards. 392 00:16:43,684 --> 00:16:46,451 I have a friend who really showed me that 393 00:16:46,451 --> 00:16:48,875 mental health is in fact a two-way street. 394 00:16:48,875 --> 00:16:52,874 His name is Lonnie Hodge, and he's a veteran of Vietnam. 395 00:16:52,874 --> 00:16:55,496 When he returned, he started working 396 00:16:55,496 --> 00:16:58,139 with survivors of genocide and a lot of people 397 00:16:58,139 --> 00:16:59,667 who had gone through war trauma. 398 00:16:59,667 --> 00:17:02,151 And he had PTSD and also a fear of heights, 399 00:17:02,151 --> 00:17:04,050 because in Vietnam, he had been 400 00:17:04,050 --> 00:17:06,295 rappelling backwards out of helicopters 401 00:17:06,295 --> 00:17:07,730 over the skids, 402 00:17:07,730 --> 00:17:10,799 and he was givena service dog named Gander, a labradoodle, 403 00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:14,250 to help him with PTSD and his fear of heights. 404 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:16,910 This is them actually on the first day that they met, 405 00:17:16,910 --> 00:17:19,502 which is amazing, and since then, 406 00:17:19,502 --> 00:17:21,267 they've spent a lot of time together 407 00:17:21,267 --> 00:17:25,517 visiting with other veterans suffering from similar issues. 408 00:17:25,517 --> 00:17:28,579 But what's so interesting to me about Lonnie and Gander's relationship 409 00:17:28,579 --> 00:17:30,357 is about a few months in, 410 00:17:30,357 --> 00:17:33,684 Gander actually developed a fear of heights, 411 00:17:33,684 --> 00:17:37,981 probably because he was watching Lonnie so closely. 412 00:17:37,981 --> 00:17:41,450 What's pretty great about this, though, is that he's still a fantastic service dog, 413 00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:43,985 because now, when they're both at a great height, 414 00:17:43,985 --> 00:17:47,343 Lonnie is so concerned with Gander's well-being 415 00:17:47,343 --> 00:17:53,317 that he forgets to be scared of the heights himself. 416 00:17:53,317 --> 00:17:56,598 Since I've spent so much time with these stories, 417 00:17:56,598 --> 00:17:58,002 digging into archives, 418 00:17:58,002 --> 00:18:00,456 I literally spent years doing this research, 419 00:18:00,456 --> 00:18:02,756 and it's changed me. 420 00:18:02,756 --> 00:18:06,692 I no longer look at animals at the species level. 421 00:18:06,692 --> 00:18:08,920 I look at them as individuals, 422 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,492 and I think about them as creatures 423 00:18:10,492 --> 00:18:13,251 with their own individual weather systems 424 00:18:13,251 --> 00:18:14,963 guiding their behavior and informing 425 00:18:14,963 --> 00:18:17,272 how they respond to the world. 426 00:18:17,272 --> 00:18:20,160 And I really believe that this has made me 427 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,524 a more curious and a more empathetic person, 428 00:18:22,524 --> 00:18:25,967 both to the animals that share my bed 429 00:18:25,967 --> 00:18:28,093 and occasionally wind up on my plate, 430 00:18:28,093 --> 00:18:30,943 but also to the people that I know 431 00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:33,894 who are suffering from anxiety 432 00:18:33,894 --> 00:18:36,521 and from phobias and all manner of other things, 433 00:18:36,521 --> 00:18:38,496 and I really do believe that 434 00:18:38,496 --> 00:18:40,744 even though you can't know exactly 435 00:18:40,744 --> 00:18:44,131 what's going on in the mind of a pig 436 00:18:44,131 --> 00:18:46,238 or your pug or your partner, 437 00:18:46,248 --> 00:18:50,055 that that shouldn't stop you from empathizing with them. 438 00:18:50,055 --> 00:18:52,544 The best thing that we could do for our loved ones 439 00:18:52,544 --> 00:18:56,840 is, perhaps, to anthropomorphize them. 440 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,341 Charles Darwin's father once told him 441 00:19:00,341 --> 00:19:05,560 that everybody could lose their mind at some point. 442 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,391 Thankfully, we can often find them again, 443 00:19:08,391 --> 00:19:10,562 but only with each other's help. 444 00:19:10,562 --> 00:19:12,618 Thank you. 445 00:19:12,618 --> 00:19:16,191 (Applause)