1 00:00:01,250 --> 00:00:02,516 This will not be a speech 2 00:00:02,516 --> 00:00:05,807 like any one I have ever given. 3 00:00:05,807 --> 00:00:09,297 I will talk to you today about 4 00:00:09,297 --> 00:00:14,187 the failure of leadership in global politics 5 00:00:14,187 --> 00:00:17,185 and in our globalizing economy. 6 00:00:17,185 --> 00:00:24,138 And I won't provide some feel-good, ready-made solutions. 7 00:00:24,138 --> 00:00:26,672 But I will in the end urge you 8 00:00:26,672 --> 00:00:32,115 to rethink, actually take risks, and get involved 9 00:00:32,115 --> 00:00:35,520 in what I see as a global evolution 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,330 of democracy. 11 00:00:38,330 --> 00:00:40,585 Failure of leadership. 12 00:00:40,585 --> 00:00:43,346 What is the failure of leadership today? 13 00:00:43,346 --> 00:00:46,813 And why is our democracy not working? 14 00:00:46,813 --> 00:00:49,444 Well, I believe that the failure of leadership is the fact 15 00:00:49,444 --> 00:00:53,997 that we have taken you out of the process. 16 00:00:53,997 --> 00:00:56,513 So let me, from my personal experiences, 17 00:00:56,513 --> 00:01:00,742 give you an insight, so that you can step back 18 00:01:00,742 --> 00:01:04,414 and maybe understand why it is so difficult to cope 19 00:01:04,414 --> 00:01:06,489 with the challenges of today and why politics 20 00:01:06,489 --> 00:01:10,133 is going down a blind alley. 21 00:01:10,133 --> 00:01:12,630 Let's start from the beginning. 22 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:16,426 Let's start from democracy. 23 00:01:16,426 --> 00:01:18,451 Well, if you go back to the Ancient Greeks, 24 00:01:18,451 --> 00:01:21,640 it was a revelation, a discovery, 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,157 that we had the potential, together, 26 00:01:26,157 --> 00:01:29,878 to be masters of our own fate, 27 00:01:29,878 --> 00:01:32,750 to be able to examine, to learn, to imagine, 28 00:01:32,750 --> 00:01:36,083 and then to design a better life. 29 00:01:36,083 --> 00:01:41,269 And democracy was the political innovation 30 00:01:41,269 --> 00:01:43,771 which protected this freedom, 31 00:01:43,771 --> 00:01:49,086 because we were liberated from fear 32 00:01:49,086 --> 00:01:50,739 so that our minds in fact, 33 00:01:50,739 --> 00:01:53,461 whether they be despots or dogmas, 34 00:01:53,461 --> 00:01:57,864 could be the protagonists. 35 00:01:57,864 --> 00:02:00,853 Democracy was the political innovation that allowed us 36 00:02:00,853 --> 00:02:04,241 to limit the power, whether it was of tyrants 37 00:02:04,241 --> 00:02:06,988 or of high priests, 38 00:02:06,988 --> 00:02:11,826 their natural tendency to maximize power and wealth. 39 00:02:11,826 --> 00:02:13,436 Well, I first began to understand this 40 00:02:13,436 --> 00:02:15,558 when I was 14 years old. 41 00:02:15,558 --> 00:02:17,668 I used to, to try to avoid homework, 42 00:02:17,668 --> 00:02:22,844 sneak down to the living room and listen to my parents 43 00:02:22,844 --> 00:02:24,544 and their friends debate heatedly. 44 00:02:24,544 --> 00:02:26,922 You see, then Greece was 45 00:02:26,922 --> 00:02:31,159 under control of a very powerful establishment 46 00:02:31,159 --> 00:02:32,906 which was strangling the country, 47 00:02:32,906 --> 00:02:35,599 and my father was heading a promising movement 48 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:38,419 to reimagine Greece, to imagine a Greece 49 00:02:38,419 --> 00:02:40,862 where freedom reigned and where, maybe, 50 00:02:40,862 --> 00:02:44,573 the people, the citizens, could actually rule their own country. 51 00:02:44,573 --> 00:02:46,869 I used to join him in many of the campaigns, 52 00:02:46,869 --> 00:02:48,808 and you can see me here next to him. 53 00:02:48,808 --> 00:02:51,276 I'm the younger one there, to the side. 54 00:02:51,276 --> 00:02:54,384 You may not recognize me because 55 00:02:54,384 --> 00:02:56,612 I used to part my hair differently there. 56 00:02:56,612 --> 00:02:58,489 (Laughter) 57 00:02:58,489 --> 00:03:02,636 So in 1967, elections were coming, 58 00:03:02,636 --> 00:03:04,480 things were going well in the campaign, 59 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,491 the house was electric. 60 00:03:06,491 --> 00:03:08,779 We really could sense that there was going to be 61 00:03:08,779 --> 00:03:12,776 a major progressive change in Greece. 62 00:03:12,776 --> 00:03:17,728 Then one night, military trucks drive up to our house. 63 00:03:17,728 --> 00:03:20,106 Soldiers storm the door. 64 00:03:20,106 --> 00:03:24,276 They find me up on the top terrace. 65 00:03:24,276 --> 00:03:26,231 A sergeant comes up to me with a machine gun, 66 00:03:26,231 --> 00:03:28,190 puts it to my head, and says, 67 00:03:28,190 --> 00:03:32,542 "Tell me where your father is or I will kill you." 68 00:03:32,542 --> 00:03:36,724 My father, hiding nearby, reveals himself, 69 00:03:36,724 --> 00:03:40,889 and was summarily taken to prison. 70 00:03:40,889 --> 00:03:44,625 Well, we survived, but democracy did not. 71 00:03:44,625 --> 00:03:47,137 Seven brutal years of dictatorship 72 00:03:47,137 --> 00:03:50,929 which we spent in exile. 73 00:03:50,929 --> 00:03:53,153 Now, today, our democracies are again 74 00:03:53,153 --> 00:03:55,432 facing a moment of truth. 75 00:03:55,432 --> 00:03:57,259 Let me tell you a story. 76 00:03:57,259 --> 00:03:59,543 Sunday evening, 77 00:03:59,543 --> 00:04:02,662 Brussels, April 2010. 78 00:04:02,662 --> 00:04:06,215 I'm sitting with my counterparts in the European Union. 79 00:04:06,215 --> 00:04:09,698 I had just been elected prime minister, 80 00:04:09,698 --> 00:04:13,291 but I had the unhappy privilege of revealing a truth 81 00:04:13,291 --> 00:04:16,712 that our deficit was not 6 percent, 82 00:04:16,712 --> 00:04:20,258 as had been officially reported only a few days earlier 83 00:04:20,258 --> 00:04:23,227 before the elections by the previous government, 84 00:04:23,227 --> 00:04:28,115 but actually 15.6 percent. 85 00:04:28,115 --> 00:04:30,547 But the deficit was only the symptom 86 00:04:30,547 --> 00:04:32,863 of much deeper problems that Greece was facing, 87 00:04:32,863 --> 00:04:36,794 and I had been elected on a mandate, a mission, actually, 88 00:04:36,794 --> 00:04:38,039 to tackle these problems, 89 00:04:38,039 --> 00:04:40,773 whether it was lack of transparency 90 00:04:40,773 --> 00:04:43,074 and accountability in governance, 91 00:04:43,074 --> 00:04:45,740 or whether it was a clientelistic state 92 00:04:45,740 --> 00:04:50,293 offering favors to the powerful -- tax avoidance 93 00:04:50,293 --> 00:04:55,020 abetted and aided by a global tax evasion system, 94 00:04:55,020 --> 00:04:58,452 politics and media captured by special interests. 95 00:04:58,452 --> 00:05:01,452 But despite our electoral mandate, 96 00:05:01,452 --> 00:05:04,667 the markets mistrusted us. 97 00:05:04,667 --> 00:05:07,433 Our borrowing costs were skyrocketing, 98 00:05:07,433 --> 00:05:10,340 and we were facing possible default. 99 00:05:10,340 --> 00:05:13,620 So I went to Brussels on a mission 100 00:05:13,620 --> 00:05:17,634 to make the case for a united European response, 101 00:05:17,634 --> 00:05:20,934 one that would calm the markets and give us the time 102 00:05:20,934 --> 00:05:23,940 to make the necessary reforms. 103 00:05:23,940 --> 00:05:26,844 But time we didn't get. 104 00:05:26,844 --> 00:05:29,980 Picture yourselves around the table in Brussels. 105 00:05:29,980 --> 00:05:32,871 Negotiations are difficult, the tensions are high, 106 00:05:32,871 --> 00:05:35,748 progress is slow, and then, 10 minutes to 2, 107 00:05:35,748 --> 00:05:37,320 a prime minister shouts out, 108 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,840 "We have to finish in 10 minutes." 109 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:42,473 I said, "Why? These are important decisions. 110 00:05:42,473 --> 00:05:44,628 Let's deliberate a little bit longer." 111 00:05:44,628 --> 00:05:47,711 Another prime minister comes in and says, 112 00:05:47,711 --> 00:05:51,043 "No, we have to have an agreement now, 113 00:05:51,043 --> 00:05:53,395 because in 10 minutes, 114 00:05:53,395 --> 00:05:56,960 the markets are opening up in Japan, 115 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,409 and there will be havoc in the global economy." 116 00:06:01,409 --> 00:06:04,822 We quickly came to a decision in those 10 minutes. 117 00:06:04,822 --> 00:06:07,098 This time it was not the military, 118 00:06:07,098 --> 00:06:13,586 but the markets, that put a gun to our collective heads. 119 00:06:13,586 --> 00:06:17,769 What followed were the most difficult decisions in my life, 120 00:06:17,769 --> 00:06:21,996 painful to me, painful to my countrymen, 121 00:06:21,996 --> 00:06:25,018 imposing cuts, austerity, 122 00:06:25,018 --> 00:06:28,244 often on those not to blame for the crisis. 123 00:06:28,244 --> 00:06:31,371 With these sacrifices, Greece did avoid bankruptcy 124 00:06:31,371 --> 00:06:34,523 and the eurozone avoided a collapse. 125 00:06:34,523 --> 00:06:37,171 Greece, yes, triggered the Euro crisis, 126 00:06:37,171 --> 00:06:40,289 and some people blame me for pulling the trigger. 127 00:06:40,289 --> 00:06:43,336 But I think today that most would agree 128 00:06:43,336 --> 00:06:45,702 that Greece was only a symptom 129 00:06:45,702 --> 00:06:49,379 of much deeper structural problems in the eurozone, 130 00:06:49,379 --> 00:06:53,571 vulnerabilities in the wider global economic system, 131 00:06:53,571 --> 00:06:56,217 vulnerabilities of our democracies. 132 00:06:56,217 --> 00:07:00,554 Our democracies are trapped by systems too big to fail, 133 00:07:00,554 --> 00:07:03,923 or, more accurately, too big to control. 134 00:07:03,923 --> 00:07:06,252 Our democracies are weakened in the global economy 135 00:07:06,252 --> 00:07:09,723 with players that can evade laws, evade taxes, 136 00:07:09,723 --> 00:07:13,044 evade environmental or labor standards. 137 00:07:13,044 --> 00:07:15,926 Our democracies are undermined 138 00:07:15,926 --> 00:07:18,084 by the growing inequality 139 00:07:18,084 --> 00:07:21,864 and the growing concentration of power and wealth, 140 00:07:21,864 --> 00:07:25,518 lobbies, corruption, the speed of the markets 141 00:07:25,518 --> 00:07:30,357 or simply the fact that we sometimes fear an impending disaster, 142 00:07:30,357 --> 00:07:33,077 have constrained our democracies, 143 00:07:33,077 --> 00:07:35,965 and they have constrained our capacity 144 00:07:35,965 --> 00:07:39,963 to imagine and actually use the potential, your potential, 145 00:07:39,963 --> 00:07:42,478 in finding solutions. 146 00:07:42,478 --> 00:07:44,933 Greece, you see, was only a preview 147 00:07:44,933 --> 00:07:47,310 of what is in store for us all. 148 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:49,000 I, overly optimistically, had hoped 149 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,791 that this crisis was an opportunity for Greece, for Europe, 150 00:07:52,791 --> 00:07:57,266 for the world, to make radical democratic transformations 151 00:07:57,266 --> 00:07:59,143 in our institutions. 152 00:07:59,143 --> 00:08:03,040 Instead, I had a very humbling experience. 153 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,521 In Brussels, when we tried desperately again and again 154 00:08:07,521 --> 00:08:09,430 to find common solutions, 155 00:08:09,430 --> 00:08:13,103 I realized that not one, not one of us, 156 00:08:13,103 --> 00:08:16,574 had ever dealt with a similar crisis. 157 00:08:16,574 --> 00:08:20,570 But worse, we were trapped by our collective ignorance. 158 00:08:20,570 --> 00:08:24,038 We were led by our fears. 159 00:08:24,038 --> 00:08:28,591 And our fears led to a blind faith 160 00:08:28,591 --> 00:08:31,756 in the orthodoxy of austerity. 161 00:08:31,756 --> 00:08:35,559 Instead of reaching out to the common 162 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,939 or the collective wisdom in our societies, 163 00:08:38,939 --> 00:08:42,251 investing in it to find more creative solutions, 164 00:08:42,251 --> 00:08:44,811 we reverted to political posturing. 165 00:08:44,811 --> 00:08:46,417 And then we were surprised when every 166 00:08:46,417 --> 00:08:49,715 ad hoc new measure didn't bring an end to the crisis, 167 00:08:49,715 --> 00:08:52,644 and of course that made it very easy 168 00:08:52,644 --> 00:08:54,491 to look for a whipping boy 169 00:08:54,491 --> 00:08:56,289 for our collective European failure, 170 00:08:56,289 --> 00:08:59,643 and of course that was Greece. 171 00:08:59,643 --> 00:09:04,815 Those profligate, idle, ouzo-swilling, Zorba-dancing Greeks, 172 00:09:04,815 --> 00:09:07,880 they are the problem. Punish them! 173 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,090 Well, a convenient but unfounded stereotype 174 00:09:11,090 --> 00:09:15,823 that sometimes hurt even more than austerity itself. 175 00:09:15,823 --> 00:09:19,135 But let me warn you, this is not just about Greece. 176 00:09:19,135 --> 00:09:22,087 This could be the pattern 177 00:09:22,087 --> 00:09:24,593 that leaders follow again and again 178 00:09:24,593 --> 00:09:28,255 when we deal with these complex, cross-border problems, 179 00:09:28,255 --> 00:09:31,975 whether it's climate change, whether it's migration, 180 00:09:31,975 --> 00:09:35,039 whether it's the financial system. 181 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:37,625 That is, abandoning our collective power 182 00:09:37,625 --> 00:09:39,504 to imagine our potential, 183 00:09:39,504 --> 00:09:43,683 falling victims to our fears, our stereotypes, our dogmas, 184 00:09:43,683 --> 00:09:45,943 taking our citizens out of the process 185 00:09:45,943 --> 00:09:50,115 rather than building the process around our citizens. 186 00:09:50,115 --> 00:09:52,587 And doing so will only test the faith 187 00:09:52,587 --> 00:09:54,995 of our citizens, of our peoples, even more 188 00:09:54,995 --> 00:09:57,557 in the democratic process. 189 00:09:57,557 --> 00:09:59,255 It's no wonder that many political leaders, 190 00:09:59,255 --> 00:10:01,773 and I don't exclude myself, 191 00:10:01,773 --> 00:10:04,851 have lost the trust of our people. 192 00:10:04,851 --> 00:10:08,414 When riot police have to protect parliaments, 193 00:10:08,414 --> 00:10:12,611 a scene which is increasingly common around the world, 194 00:10:12,611 --> 00:10:17,361 then there's something deeply wrong with our democracies. 195 00:10:17,361 --> 00:10:21,266 That's why I called for a referendum to have the Greek people 196 00:10:21,266 --> 00:10:25,502 own and decide on the terms of the rescue package. 197 00:10:25,502 --> 00:10:27,405 My European counterparts, some of them, at least, 198 00:10:27,405 --> 00:10:29,390 said, "You can't do this. 199 00:10:29,390 --> 00:10:33,938 There will be havoc in the markets again." 200 00:10:33,938 --> 00:10:38,194 I said, "We need to, before we restore confidence in the markets, 201 00:10:38,194 --> 00:10:43,782 we need to restore confidence and trust amongst our people." 202 00:10:43,782 --> 00:10:46,550 Since leaving office, I have had time to reflect. 203 00:10:46,550 --> 00:10:51,670 We have weathered the storm, in Greece and in Europe, 204 00:10:51,670 --> 00:10:54,243 but we remain challenged. 205 00:10:54,243 --> 00:10:57,702 If politics is the power to imagine and use our potential, 206 00:10:57,702 --> 00:11:01,846 well then 60-percent youth unemployment in Greece, 207 00:11:01,846 --> 00:11:04,816 and in other countries, certainly is a lack of imagination 208 00:11:04,816 --> 00:11:07,282 if not a lack of compassion. 209 00:11:07,282 --> 00:11:09,823 So far, we've thrown economics at the problem, 210 00:11:09,823 --> 00:11:12,134 actually mostly austerity, 211 00:11:12,134 --> 00:11:15,364 and certainly we could have designed alternatives, 212 00:11:15,364 --> 00:11:18,686 a different strategy, a green stimulus for green jobs, 213 00:11:18,686 --> 00:11:22,138 or mutualized debt, Eurobonds which would 214 00:11:22,138 --> 00:11:25,262 support countries in need from market pressures, 215 00:11:25,262 --> 00:11:28,134 these would have been much more viable alternatives. 216 00:11:28,134 --> 00:11:30,800 Yet I have come to believe that the problem is not so much 217 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,759 one of economics as it is one of democracy. 218 00:11:34,759 --> 00:11:36,347 So let's try something else. 219 00:11:36,347 --> 00:11:39,243 Let's see how we can bring people back to the process. 220 00:11:39,243 --> 00:11:42,346 Let's throw democracy at the problem. 221 00:11:42,346 --> 00:11:45,331 Again, the Ancient Greeks, with all their shortcomings, 222 00:11:45,331 --> 00:11:48,375 believed in the wisdom of the crowd 223 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:51,266 at their best moments. In people we trust. 224 00:11:51,266 --> 00:11:54,609 Democracy could not work without the citizens 225 00:11:54,609 --> 00:11:58,982 deliberating, debating, taking on public responsibilities 226 00:11:58,982 --> 00:12:00,916 for public affairs. 227 00:12:00,916 --> 00:12:03,650 Average citizens often were chosen for citizen juries 228 00:12:03,650 --> 00:12:07,877 to decide on critical matters of the day. 229 00:12:07,877 --> 00:12:10,954 Science, theater, research, philosophy, 230 00:12:10,954 --> 00:12:13,037 games of the mind and the body, 231 00:12:13,037 --> 00:12:14,765 they were daily exercises. 232 00:12:14,765 --> 00:12:18,917 Actually they were an education for participation, 233 00:12:18,917 --> 00:12:22,457 for the potential, for growing the potential of our citizens. 234 00:12:22,457 --> 00:12:26,993 And those who shunned politics, well, they were idiots. 235 00:12:26,993 --> 00:12:30,237 You see, in Ancient Greece, in ancient Athens, 236 00:12:30,237 --> 00:12:32,508 that term originated there. 237 00:12:32,508 --> 00:12:37,301 "Idiot" comes from the root "idio," oneself. 238 00:12:37,301 --> 00:12:40,544 A person who is self-centered, secluded, excluded, 239 00:12:40,544 --> 00:12:45,259 someone who doesn't participate or even examine public affairs. 240 00:12:45,259 --> 00:12:48,991 And participation took place in the agora, the agora having two meanings, 241 00:12:48,991 --> 00:12:55,368 both a marketplace and a place where there was political deliberation. 242 00:12:55,368 --> 00:12:59,424 You see, markets and politics then were one, unified, 243 00:12:59,424 --> 00:13:02,630 accessible, transparent, because they gave power to the people. 244 00:13:02,630 --> 00:13:07,593 They serve the demos, democracy. 245 00:13:07,593 --> 00:13:10,217 Above government, above markets 246 00:13:10,217 --> 00:13:12,746 was the direct rule of the people. 247 00:13:12,746 --> 00:13:15,730 Today we have globalized the markets 248 00:13:15,730 --> 00:13:20,193 but we have not globalized our democratic institutions. 249 00:13:20,193 --> 00:13:24,626 So our politicians are limited to local politics, 250 00:13:24,626 --> 00:13:28,386 while our citizens, even though they see a great potential, 251 00:13:28,386 --> 00:13:32,866 are prey to forces beyond their control. 252 00:13:32,866 --> 00:13:35,697 So how then do we reunite the two halves of the agora? 253 00:13:35,697 --> 00:13:37,937 How do we democratize globalization? 254 00:13:37,937 --> 00:13:40,506 And I'm not talking about the necessary reforms 255 00:13:40,506 --> 00:13:43,160 of the United Nations or the G20. 256 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,641 I'm talking about, how do we secure the space, 257 00:13:45,641 --> 00:13:48,142 the demos, the platform of values, 258 00:13:48,142 --> 00:13:53,702 so that we can tap into all of your potential? 259 00:13:53,702 --> 00:13:57,577 Well, this is exactly where I think Europe fits in. 260 00:13:57,577 --> 00:13:59,977 Europe, despite its recent failures, 261 00:13:59,977 --> 00:14:04,545 is the world's most successful cross-border peace experiment. 262 00:14:04,545 --> 00:14:07,792 So let's see if it can't be an experiment 263 00:14:07,792 --> 00:14:11,972 in global democracy, a new kind of democracy. 264 00:14:11,972 --> 00:14:15,082 Let's see if we can't design a European agora, 265 00:14:15,082 --> 00:14:17,614 not simply for products and services, 266 00:14:17,614 --> 00:14:20,857 but for our citizens, where they can work together, 267 00:14:20,857 --> 00:14:22,620 deliberate, learn from each other, 268 00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:25,836 exchange between art and cultures, 269 00:14:25,836 --> 00:14:29,535 where they can come up with creative solutions. 270 00:14:29,535 --> 00:14:32,705 Let's imagine that European citizens 271 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:34,999 actually have the power to vote directly 272 00:14:34,999 --> 00:14:37,999 for a European president, 273 00:14:37,999 --> 00:14:41,483 or citizen juries chosen by lottery 274 00:14:41,483 --> 00:14:45,709 which can deliberate on critical and controversial issues, 275 00:14:45,709 --> 00:14:48,877 a European-wide referendum where our citizens, 276 00:14:48,877 --> 00:14:53,279 as the lawmakers, vote on future treaties. 277 00:14:53,279 --> 00:14:55,759 And here's an idea: 278 00:14:55,759 --> 00:14:58,683 Why not have the first truly European citizens 279 00:14:58,683 --> 00:15:00,703 by giving our immigrants, 280 00:15:00,703 --> 00:15:04,815 not Greek or German or Swedish citizenship, 281 00:15:04,815 --> 00:15:08,438 but a European citizenship? 282 00:15:08,438 --> 00:15:11,325 And make sure we actually empower 283 00:15:11,325 --> 00:15:14,104 the unemployed by giving them a voucher scholarship 284 00:15:14,104 --> 00:15:17,573 where they can choose to study anywhere in Europe. 285 00:15:17,573 --> 00:15:22,054 Where our common identity is democracy, 286 00:15:22,054 --> 00:15:27,018 where our education is through participation, 287 00:15:27,018 --> 00:15:30,491 and where participation builds trust 288 00:15:30,491 --> 00:15:34,462 and solidarity rather than exclusion and xenophobia. 289 00:15:34,462 --> 00:15:36,124 Europe of and by the people, 290 00:15:36,124 --> 00:15:40,222 a Europe, an experiment in deepening and widening 291 00:15:40,222 --> 00:15:43,238 democracy beyond borders. 292 00:15:43,238 --> 00:15:47,076 Now, some might accuse me of being naive, 293 00:15:47,076 --> 00:15:51,947 putting my faith in the power and the wisdom of the people. 294 00:15:51,947 --> 00:15:56,716 Well, after decades in politics, I am also a pragmatist. 295 00:15:56,716 --> 00:15:59,272 Believe me, I have been, 296 00:15:59,272 --> 00:16:02,932 I am, part of today's political system, 297 00:16:02,932 --> 00:16:07,569 and I know things must change. 298 00:16:07,569 --> 00:16:11,857 We must revive politics as the power to imagine, 299 00:16:11,857 --> 00:16:17,080 reimagine, and redesign for a better world. 300 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,894 But I also know that this disruptive force of change 301 00:16:19,894 --> 00:16:22,958 won't be driven by the politics of today. 302 00:16:22,958 --> 00:16:25,254 The revival of democratic politics 303 00:16:25,254 --> 00:16:29,674 will come from you, and I mean all of you. 304 00:16:29,674 --> 00:16:33,660 Everyone who participates in this global exchange of ideas, 305 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:34,709 whether it's here in this room 306 00:16:34,709 --> 00:16:36,922 or just outside this room 307 00:16:36,922 --> 00:16:40,756 or online or locally, where everybody lives, 308 00:16:40,756 --> 00:16:44,076 everyone who stands up to injustice and inequality, 309 00:16:44,076 --> 00:16:46,796 everybody who stands up to those who preach 310 00:16:46,796 --> 00:16:49,060 racism rather than empathy, 311 00:16:49,060 --> 00:16:51,876 dogma rather than critical thinking, 312 00:16:51,876 --> 00:16:54,192 technocracy rather than democracy, 313 00:16:54,192 --> 00:16:57,167 everyone who stands up to the unchecked power, 314 00:16:57,167 --> 00:16:59,288 whether it's authoritarian leaders, 315 00:16:59,288 --> 00:17:02,724 plutocrats hiding their assets in tax havens, 316 00:17:02,724 --> 00:17:06,644 or powerful lobbies protecting the powerful few. 317 00:17:06,644 --> 00:17:12,077 It is in their interest that all of us are idiots. 318 00:17:12,077 --> 00:17:13,563 Let's not be. 319 00:17:13,563 --> 00:17:14,803 Thank you. 320 00:17:14,803 --> 00:17:26,713 (Applause) 321 00:17:26,713 --> 00:17:28,626 Bruno Giussani: You seem to describe a political leadership 322 00:17:28,626 --> 00:17:30,811 that is kind of unprepared 323 00:17:30,811 --> 00:17:33,593 and a prisoner of the whims of the financial markets, 324 00:17:33,593 --> 00:17:35,953 and that scene in Brussels that you describe, to me, 325 00:17:35,953 --> 00:17:38,456 as a citizen, is terrifying. 326 00:17:38,456 --> 00:17:42,755 Help us understand how you felt after the decision. 327 00:17:42,755 --> 00:17:44,323 It was not a good decision, clearly, 328 00:17:44,323 --> 00:17:46,907 but how do you feel after that, not as the prime minister, 329 00:17:46,907 --> 00:17:49,096 but as George? 330 00:17:49,096 --> 00:17:51,638 George Papandreou: Well, obviously there were constraints 331 00:17:51,638 --> 00:17:55,564 which didn't allow me or others to make 332 00:17:55,564 --> 00:17:57,004 the types of decisions we would have wanted, 333 00:17:57,004 --> 00:17:59,769 and obviously I had hoped that we would have the time 334 00:17:59,769 --> 00:18:01,476 to make the reforms which would have dealt 335 00:18:01,476 --> 00:18:03,969 with the deficit rather than trying to cut the deficit 336 00:18:03,969 --> 00:18:05,684 which was the symptom of the problem. 337 00:18:05,684 --> 00:18:07,883 And that hurt. That hurt because that, first of all, 338 00:18:07,883 --> 00:18:11,387 hurt the younger generation, and not only, 339 00:18:11,387 --> 00:18:13,324 many of them are demonstrating outside, 340 00:18:13,324 --> 00:18:14,948 but I think this is one of our problems. 341 00:18:14,948 --> 00:18:20,180 When we face these crises, we have kept the potential, 342 00:18:20,180 --> 00:18:23,315 the huge potential of our society out of this process, 343 00:18:23,315 --> 00:18:26,139 and we are closing in on ourselves in politics, 344 00:18:26,139 --> 00:18:28,885 and I think we need to change that, to really find 345 00:18:28,885 --> 00:18:33,058 new participatory ways using the great capabilities 346 00:18:33,058 --> 00:18:36,208 that now exist even in technology but not only in technology, 347 00:18:36,208 --> 00:18:39,349 the minds that we have, and I think we can find solutions 348 00:18:39,349 --> 00:18:41,156 which are much better, but we have to be open. 349 00:18:41,156 --> 00:18:42,816 BG: You seem to suggest that the way forward 350 00:18:42,816 --> 00:18:46,427 is more Europe, and that is not to be an easy discourse 351 00:18:46,427 --> 00:18:48,150 right now in most European countries. 352 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:51,877 It's rather the other way -- more closed borders 353 00:18:51,877 --> 00:18:54,307 and less cooperation and maybe even stepping out 354 00:18:54,307 --> 00:18:58,012 of some of the different parts of the European construction. 355 00:18:58,012 --> 00:18:59,951 How do you reconcile that? 356 00:18:59,951 --> 00:19:02,380 GP: Well, I think one of the worst things that happened 357 00:19:02,380 --> 00:19:04,612 during this crisis is that we started a blame game. 358 00:19:04,612 --> 00:19:08,170 And the fundamental idea of Europe is that 359 00:19:08,170 --> 00:19:10,276 we can cooperate beyond borders, 360 00:19:10,276 --> 00:19:12,577 go beyond our conflicts and work together. 361 00:19:12,577 --> 00:19:18,546 And the paradox is that, because we have this blame game, 362 00:19:18,546 --> 00:19:21,726 we have less the potential to convince our citizens 363 00:19:21,726 --> 00:19:23,437 that we should work together, 364 00:19:23,437 --> 00:19:25,510 while now is the time when we really need 365 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:27,278 to bring our powers together. 366 00:19:27,278 --> 00:19:30,232 Now, more Europe for me is not simply 367 00:19:30,232 --> 00:19:31,687 giving more power to Brussels. 368 00:19:31,687 --> 00:19:35,560 It is actually giving more power to the citizens of Europe, 369 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,408 that is, really making Europe a project of the people. 370 00:19:39,408 --> 00:19:41,976 So that, I think, would be a way to answer 371 00:19:41,976 --> 00:19:44,849 some of the fears that we have in our society. 372 00:19:44,849 --> 00:19:46,372 BG: George, thank you for coming to TED. 373 00:19:46,372 --> 00:19:49,558 GP: Thank you very much.BG: Thank you.(Applause)