0:00:01.889,0:00:07.828 (Music) 0:00:07.852,0:00:11.798 ["Oedipus Rex"] 0:00:15.397,0:00:18.605 ["The Lion King"] 0:00:22.485,0:00:26.917 ["Titus"] 0:00:37.727,0:00:43.580 ["Frida"] 0:00:53.751,0:00:58.225 ["The Magic Flute"] 0:01:00.197,0:01:06.358 ["Across The Universe"] 0:01:15.710,0:01:20.238 (Applause) 0:01:20.262,0:01:22.445 Julie Taymor: Thank you.[br]Thank you very much. 0:01:22.469,0:01:25.162 That's a few samples of the theater, opera 0:01:25.186,0:01:28.504 and films that I have done[br]over the last 20 years. 0:01:28.528,0:01:30.542 But what I'd like to begin with right now 0:01:30.566,0:01:32.445 is to take you back to a moment 0:01:32.469,0:01:34.910 that I went through in Indonesia, 0:01:34.934,0:01:37.047 which is a seminal moment in my life 0:01:37.071,0:01:39.127 and, like all myths, 0:01:39.151,0:01:41.382 these stories need to be retold 0:01:41.406,0:01:43.881 and told, lest we forget them. 0:01:43.905,0:01:46.905 And when I'm in the turbulent[br]times, as we know, 0:01:46.929,0:01:49.293 that I am right now, through the crucible 0:01:49.317,0:01:51.484 and the fire of transformation, 0:01:51.508,0:01:54.102 which is what all of you do, actually. 0:01:54.126,0:01:57.226 Anybody who creates knows[br]there's that point where 0:01:57.250,0:02:02.335 it hasn't quite become[br]the phoenix or the burnt char. 0:02:02.359,0:02:04.433 (Laughter) 0:02:04.457,0:02:07.338 And I am right there on the edge, 0:02:07.362,0:02:09.315 which I'll tell you about, another story. 0:02:09.339,0:02:10.768 I want to go back to Indonesia 0:02:10.792,0:02:14.452 where I was about 21, 22[br]years, a long time ago, 0:02:14.476,0:02:15.676 on a fellowship. 0:02:15.700,0:02:18.606 And I found myself, after two years there 0:02:18.630,0:02:21.955 and performing and learning,[br]on the island of Bali, 0:02:21.979,0:02:25.782 on the edge of a crater, Gunung Batur. 0:02:25.806,0:02:28.799 And I was in a village where there was 0:02:28.823,0:02:31.591 an initiation ceremony for the young men, 0:02:31.615,0:02:33.155 a rite of passage. 0:02:33.179,0:02:35.707 Little did I know that it[br]was mine as well. 0:02:35.731,0:02:38.166 And as I sat in this temple square 0:02:38.190,0:02:41.166 under this gigantic beringin banyan tree, 0:02:41.190,0:02:46.003 in the dark, there was no[br]electricity, just the full moon, 0:02:46.027,0:02:48.059 down in this empty square, 0:02:48.083,0:02:50.209 and I heard the most beautiful sounds, 0:02:50.233,0:02:52.040 like a Charles Ives concert 0:02:52.064,0:02:54.083 as I listened to the gamelan music 0:02:54.107,0:02:56.132 from all the different villagers that came 0:02:56.156,0:02:59.530 for this once-every-five-years ceremony. 0:02:59.554,0:03:03.125 And I thought I was alone[br]in the dark under this tree. 0:03:03.149,0:03:05.956 And all of a sudden, out of the dark, 0:03:05.980,0:03:07.840 from the other end of the square, 0:03:07.864,0:03:11.748 I saw the glint of mirrors[br]lit by the moon. 0:03:11.772,0:03:15.307 And these 20 old men who I'd seen before 0:03:15.331,0:03:20.609 all of a sudden stood up in these[br]full warrior costumes 0:03:20.633,0:03:23.094 with the headdress and the spears, 0:03:23.118,0:03:27.456 and no one was in the square,[br]and I was hidden in the shadows. 0:03:27.480,0:03:29.817 No one was there, and they came out, 0:03:29.841,0:03:33.456 and they did this incredible dance. 0:03:33.480,0:03:37.148 "Huhuhuhuhuhuhuhahahahaha." 0:03:37.172,0:03:40.321 And they moved their bodies[br]and they came forward, 0:03:40.345,0:03:43.123 and the lights bounced off these costumes. 0:03:43.147,0:03:46.539 And I've been in theater[br]since I was 11 years old, 0:03:46.563,0:03:49.753 and performing, creating, and I went, 0:03:49.777,0:03:51.896 "Who are they performing for 0:03:51.920,0:03:54.243 with these elaborate costumes, 0:03:54.267,0:03:56.270 these extraordinary headdresses?" 0:03:56.294,0:04:01.057 And I realized that they were[br]performing for God, 0:04:01.081,0:04:03.768 whatever that means. 0:04:03.792,0:04:07.356 But somehow, it didn't[br]matter about the publicity. 0:04:07.380,0:04:09.607 There was no money involved. 0:04:09.631,0:04:12.827 It wasn't going to be written down.[br]It was no news. 0:04:12.851,0:04:14.973 And there were these incredible artists 0:04:14.997,0:04:18.474 that felt for me like an eternity[br]as they performed. 0:04:18.498,0:04:20.559 The next moment, 0:04:20.583,0:04:24.619 as soon as they finished[br]and disappeared into the shadows, 0:04:24.643,0:04:27.125 a young man with a propane[br]lantern came on, 0:04:27.149,0:04:29.376 hung it up on a tree, set up a curtain. 0:04:29.400,0:04:32.837 The village square was filled[br]with hundreds of people. 0:04:32.861,0:04:35.375 And they put on an opera all night long. 0:04:35.399,0:04:37.635 Human beings needed the light. 0:04:37.659,0:04:40.272 They needed the light to see. 0:04:40.296,0:04:43.920 So what I gained and gathered[br]from this incredible, 0:04:43.944,0:04:46.532 seminal moment in my life[br]as a young artist 0:04:46.556,0:04:49.855 was that you must be true 0:04:49.879,0:04:53.927 to what you believe as an artist[br]all the way through, 0:04:53.951,0:04:57.466 but you also have to be aware 0:04:57.490,0:05:00.955 that the audience is out there[br]in our lives at this time, 0:05:00.979,0:05:02.360 and they also need the light. 0:05:02.384,0:05:04.523 And it's this incredible balance 0:05:04.547,0:05:06.272 that I think that we walk 0:05:06.296,0:05:09.605 when we are creating something[br]that is breaking ground, 0:05:09.629,0:05:12.259 that's trying to do something[br]you've never seen before, 0:05:12.283,0:05:13.945 that imaginary world 0:05:13.969,0:05:17.322 where you actually don't know[br]where you're going to end up, 0:05:17.346,0:05:20.088 that's the fine line[br]on the edge of a crater 0:05:20.112,0:05:22.718 that I have walked my whole life. 0:05:22.742,0:05:25.266 What I would like to do now is to tell you 0:05:25.290,0:05:27.072 a little bit 0:05:27.096,0:05:29.929 about how I work.[br]Let's take "The Lion King." 0:05:29.953,0:05:32.181 You saw many examples of my work up there, 0:05:32.205,0:05:34.126 but it's one that people know. 0:05:34.150,0:05:36.825 I start with the notion of the ideograph. 0:05:36.849,0:05:40.200 An ideograph is like a brush[br]painting, a Japanese brush painting. 0:05:40.224,0:05:43.709 Three strokes, you get[br]the whole bamboo forest. 0:05:43.733,0:05:46.240 I go to the concept of "The Lion King" 0:05:46.264,0:05:48.308 and I say, "What is the essence of it? 0:05:48.332,0:05:49.944 What is the abstraction? 0:05:49.968,0:05:53.205 If I were to reduce this entire story 0:05:53.229,0:05:55.946 into one image, what would it be?" 0:05:55.970,0:05:58.900 The circle. The circle. It's so obvious. 0:05:58.924,0:06:02.877 The circle of life. The[br]circle of Mufasa's mask. 0:06:02.901,0:06:07.417 The circle that, when we come[br]to Act II and there's a drought, 0:06:07.441,0:06:08.896 how do you express drought? 0:06:08.920,0:06:12.055 It's a circle of silk on the floor 0:06:12.079,0:06:16.109 that disappears into the hole[br]in the stage floor. 0:06:16.133,0:06:18.738 The circle of life comes in the wheels 0:06:18.762,0:06:21.186 of the gazelles that leap. 0:06:21.210,0:06:22.908 And you see the mechanics. 0:06:22.932,0:06:26.286 And being a theater person, what I know[br]and love about the theater 0:06:26.310,0:06:27.981 is that when the audience comes in 0:06:28.005,0:06:29.775 and they suspend their disbelief, 0:06:29.799,0:06:32.610 when you see men walking or women walking 0:06:32.634,0:06:34.507 with a platter of grass on their heads, 0:06:34.531,0:06:36.123 you know it's the savanna. 0:06:36.147,0:06:37.667 You don't question that. 0:06:37.691,0:06:40.151 I love the apparent truth of theater. 0:06:40.175,0:06:43.748 I love that people are willing[br]to fill in the blanks. 0:06:43.772,0:06:45.768 The audience is willing to say, 0:06:45.792,0:06:48.768 "Oh, I know that's not a real sun. 0:06:48.792,0:06:51.076 You took pieces of sticks. 0:06:51.100,0:06:53.171 You added silk to the bottom. 0:06:53.195,0:06:56.875 You suspended these pieces. You[br]let it fall flat on the floor. 0:06:56.899,0:07:01.278 And as it rises with the strings,[br]I see that it's a sun. 0:07:01.302,0:07:05.685 But the beauty of it[br]is that it's just silk and sticks. 0:07:05.709,0:07:10.237 And in a way, that is what makes[br]it spiritual. 0:07:10.261,0:07:11.682 That's what moves you. 0:07:11.706,0:07:15.898 It's not the actual literal[br]sunrise that's coming. 0:07:15.922,0:07:17.429 It's the art of it. 0:07:17.453,0:07:22.789 So in the theater, as much[br]as the story is critical 0:07:22.813,0:07:24.694 and the book and the language, 0:07:24.718,0:07:29.345 the telling of the story, how it's told, 0:07:29.369,0:07:32.963 the mechanics, the methods that you use, 0:07:32.987,0:07:35.562 is equal to the story itself. 0:07:35.586,0:07:38.900 And I'm one who loves[br]high tech and low tech. 0:07:38.924,0:07:40.699 So I could go from -- 0:07:40.723,0:07:43.200 For instance, I'll show you[br]some "Spider-Man" later, 0:07:43.224,0:07:45.776 these incredible machines[br]that move people along. 0:07:45.800,0:07:48.142 But the fact is, without the dancer 0:07:48.166,0:07:50.895 who knows how to use his body[br]and swing on those wires, 0:07:50.919,0:07:52.682 it's nothing. 0:07:52.706,0:07:55.591 So now I'm going to show you 0:07:55.615,0:07:59.909 some clips from the other big[br]project of my life this year, 0:07:59.933,0:08:00.951 "The Tempest." 0:08:00.975,0:08:05.044 It's a movie. I did "The[br]Tempest" on a stage three times 0:08:05.068,0:08:08.281 in the theater since 1984, '86, 0:08:08.305,0:08:10.485 and I love the play. 0:08:10.509,0:08:13.011 I did it always with a male Prospero. 0:08:13.035,0:08:14.673 And all of a sudden, I thought, 0:08:14.697,0:08:16.759 "Well, who am I gonna[br]get to play Prospero? 0:08:16.783,0:08:20.481 Why not Helen Mirren?[br]She's a great actor. Why not?" 0:08:20.505,0:08:23.741 And this material really did work[br]for a woman equally as well. 0:08:23.765,0:08:26.836 So now, let's take a look[br]at some of the images 0:08:26.860,0:08:28.829 from "The Tempest." 0:08:28.853,0:08:33.836 (Music) 0:08:45.220,0:08:49.459 (Video) Prospera: Hast thou, spirit, performed[br]to the point the tempest that I bade thee? 0:08:49.483,0:08:54.991 Ariel: I boarded the king's ship.[br]In every cabin, I flamed amazement. 0:08:57.664,0:09:00.596 Prospera: At first sight,[br]they have changed eyes. 0:09:00.620,0:09:01.791 Miranda: Do you love me? 0:09:01.815,0:09:03.167 Ferdinand: Beyond all limit. 0:09:03.191,0:09:05.759 HM: They are both in either's powers. 0:09:05.783,0:09:10.890 Trinculo: Misery acquaints[br]a man with strange bedfellows. 0:09:10.914,0:09:14.132 (Music) 0:09:14.156,0:09:17.609 Looking for business, governor? 0:09:17.633,0:09:19.681 Caliban: Hast thou not[br]dropped from heaven? 0:09:19.705,0:09:22.166 Stephano: Out of the moon,[br]I do assure thee. 0:09:22.190,0:09:24.163 Prospera: Caliban! 0:09:24.187,0:09:26.428 Caliban: This island is mine. 0:09:26.452,0:09:29.973 Prospera: For this, be sure,[br]tonight thou shalt have cramps. 0:09:29.997,0:09:33.482 Antonio: Here lies your brother no[br]better than the earth he lies upon. 0:09:33.506,0:09:35.281 Sebastian: Draw thy sword. 0:09:35.305,0:09:38.890 And I, the king, shall love thee. 0:09:38.914,0:09:44.300 Prospera: I will plague[br]them all, even to roaring. 0:09:46.133,0:09:50.706 Ariel: I have made you mad. 0:09:56.874,0:09:59.895 Prospera: We are such stuff[br]as dreams are made on. 0:09:59.919,0:10:04.106 and our little life[br]is rounded with a sleep. 0:10:04.130,0:10:09.431 (Music) 0:10:09.455,0:10:12.281 JT: Okay. 0:10:12.305,0:10:16.255 (Applause) 0:10:16.279,0:10:18.683 So I went from theater,[br]doing "The Tempest" 0:10:18.707,0:10:21.007 on the stage in a very[br]low-budget production 0:10:21.031,0:10:22.645 many years ago, 0:10:22.669,0:10:25.090 and I love the play, and I also think 0:10:25.114,0:10:27.114 it's Shakespeare's last play, 0:10:27.138,0:10:30.794 and it really lends itself,[br]as you can see, to cinema. 0:10:30.818,0:10:33.342 But I'm just going to give[br]you a little example about 0:10:33.366,0:10:35.247 how one stages it in theater 0:10:35.271,0:10:39.308 and then how one takes[br]that same idea or story 0:10:39.332,0:10:42.300 and moves it into cinema. 0:10:42.324,0:10:45.396 The ideograph that I talked[br]to you about before, 0:10:45.420,0:10:47.507 what is it for "The Tempest"? 0:10:47.531,0:10:50.333 What, if I were to boil it down, 0:10:50.357,0:10:52.646 would be the one image that I could 0:10:52.670,0:10:54.893 hang my hat on for this? 0:10:54.917,0:10:57.181 And it was the sand castle, 0:10:57.205,0:11:00.321 the idea of nurture versus nature, 0:11:00.345,0:11:02.776 that we build these civilizations -- 0:11:02.800,0:11:05.731 she speaks about it at the end,[br]Helen Mirren's Prospera -- 0:11:05.755,0:11:11.204 we build them, but under nature,[br]under the grand tempest, 0:11:11.228,0:11:16.699 these cloud-capped towers, these[br]gorgeous palaces will fade 0:11:16.723,0:11:20.922 and there will -- leave not a rack behind. 0:11:20.946,0:11:23.551 So in the theater, I started the play, 0:11:23.575,0:11:26.613 it was a black sand rake, white cyc, 0:11:26.637,0:11:29.538 and there was a little girl,[br]Miranda, on the horizon, 0:11:29.562,0:11:32.206 building a drip castle, a sand castle. 0:11:32.230,0:11:35.646 And as she was there[br]on the edge of that stage, 0:11:35.670,0:11:39.007 two stagehands all in black 0:11:39.031,0:11:43.511 with watering cans ran along the top 0:11:43.535,0:11:48.138 and started to pour water[br]on the sand castle, 0:11:48.162,0:11:50.908 and the sand castle[br]started to drip and sink, 0:11:50.932,0:11:52.307 but before it did, 0:11:52.331,0:11:56.547 the audience saw[br]the black-clad stagehands. 0:11:56.571,0:12:01.134 The medium was apparent. It was banal.[br]We saw it. 0:12:01.158,0:12:04.117 But as they started to pour the water, 0:12:04.141,0:12:07.849 the light changed from showing[br]you the black-clad stagehands 0:12:07.873,0:12:11.163 to focusing, this rough magic[br]that we do in theater, 0:12:11.187,0:12:14.716 it focused right on the water itself. 0:12:14.740,0:12:18.938 And all of a sudden,[br]the audience's perspective changes. 0:12:18.962,0:12:22.444 It becomes something magically large. 0:12:22.468,0:12:25.076 It becomes the rainstorm. 0:12:25.100,0:12:28.720 The masked actors,[br]the puppeteers, they disappear, 0:12:28.744,0:12:31.920 and the audience makes[br]that leap into this world, 0:12:31.944,0:12:36.243 into this imaginary world of "The[br]Tempest" actually happening. 0:12:36.267,0:12:37.672 Now the difference 0:12:37.696,0:12:40.275 when I went and did it in the cinema, 0:12:40.299,0:12:42.659 I started the actual movie 0:12:42.683,0:12:47.941 with a close-up of a sand[br]castle, a black sand castle, 0:12:47.965,0:12:49.779 and what cinema can do is, 0:12:49.803,0:12:53.235 by using camera, perspective, 0:12:53.259,0:12:55.977 and also long shots and close-ups, 0:12:56.001,0:12:58.296 it started on a close-up[br]of the sand castle, 0:12:58.320,0:13:00.179 and as it pulled away, 0:13:00.203,0:13:03.213 you saw that it was a miniature[br]sitting in the palm 0:13:03.237,0:13:05.116 of the girl's hands. 0:13:05.140,0:13:06.944 And so I could play with the medium, 0:13:06.968,0:13:09.896 and why I move from one medium to another 0:13:09.920,0:13:11.379 is to be able to do this. 0:13:11.403,0:13:13.810 Now I'm going to take you to "Spider-Man." 0:13:13.834,0:13:17.670 (Music) 0:13:44.794,0:13:47.597 (Video) Peter Parker: ♪[br]Standing on the precipice, 0:13:47.621,0:13:52.076 I can soar away from this. ♪ 0:13:52.100,0:13:54.434 JT: We're trying to do[br]everything in live theater 0:13:54.458,0:13:56.353 that you can't do in two dimensions 0:13:56.377,0:13:58.879 in film and television. 0:13:58.903,0:14:02.809 PP: ♪ Rise above yourself[br]and take control. ♪ 0:14:02.833,0:14:06.310 George Tsypin: We're looking at New[br]York from a Spider-Man point of view. 0:14:06.334,0:14:08.455 Spider Man is not bound by gravity. 0:14:08.479,0:14:11.613 Manhattan in the show is not[br]bound by gravity either. 0:14:11.637,0:14:15.832 PP: ♪ Be yourself and rise above it all. ♪ 0:14:15.856,0:14:19.935 Ensemble: ♪ Sock! Pow! ♪ 0:14:19.959,0:14:22.520 ♪ Slam! Scratch! ♪ 0:14:22.544,0:14:24.721 Danny Ezralow: I don't want you[br]to even think there's a choreographer. 0:14:24.745,0:14:25.847 It's real, what's happening. 0:14:25.871,0:14:28.720 I prefer you to see people moving, 0:14:28.744,0:14:30.906 and you're going, "Whoa, what was that?" 0:14:30.930,0:14:43.127 (Music) 0:14:43.151,0:14:45.390 JT: If I give enough movement[br]in the sculpture, 0:14:45.414,0:14:48.402 and the actor moves their head,[br]you feel like it's alive. 0:14:48.426,0:14:51.352 It's really comic book live.[br]It's a comic book coming alive. 0:14:51.376,0:14:58.553 (Music) 0:14:58.577,0:14:59.715 Bono: They're mythologies. 0:14:59.739,0:15:03.341 They're modern myths,[br]these comic book heroes. 0:15:03.365,0:15:09.304 PP: ♪ They believe. ♪ 0:15:09.328,0:15:12.981 (Screams) 0:15:13.005,0:15:18.523 (Music) 0:15:30.766,0:15:33.010 (Applause) 0:15:33.034,0:15:37.620 JT: Ohhhh. What was that? 0:15:37.644,0:15:39.891 Circus, rock 'n' roll, drama. 0:15:39.915,0:15:42.733 What the hell are we doing[br]up there on that stage? 0:15:42.757,0:15:45.395 Well, one last story, very quickly. 0:15:45.419,0:15:48.265 After I was in that village,[br]I crossed the lake, 0:15:48.289,0:15:51.354 and I saw that the volcano was erupting 0:15:51.378,0:15:53.107 on the other side, Gunung Batur, 0:15:53.131,0:15:56.192 and there was a dead volcano[br]next to the live volcano. 0:15:56.216,0:15:58.455 I didn't think I'd be[br]swallowed by the volcano, 0:15:58.479,0:15:59.799 and I am here. 0:15:59.823,0:16:03.736 But it's very easy to climb up, is it not? 0:16:03.760,0:16:05.321 You hold on to the roots, 0:16:05.345,0:16:08.521 you put your foot in the little rocks 0:16:08.545,0:16:11.103 and climb up there,[br]and you get to the top, 0:16:11.127,0:16:13.393 and I was with a good[br]friend who was an actor, 0:16:13.417,0:16:15.413 and we said, "Let's go up there. 0:16:15.437,0:16:17.461 Let's see if we can come close to the edge 0:16:17.485,0:16:19.597 of that live volcano." 0:16:19.621,0:16:22.449 And we climbed up and we got[br]to the very top, 0:16:22.473,0:16:24.954 and we're on the edge, on this precipice, 0:16:24.978,0:16:27.367 Roland disappears into the sulfur smoke 0:16:27.391,0:16:29.304 at the volcano at the other end, 0:16:29.328,0:16:31.146 and I'm up there alone 0:16:31.170,0:16:33.882 on this incredible precipice. 0:16:33.906,0:16:35.503 Did you hear the lyrics? 0:16:35.527,0:16:37.829 I'm on the precipice looking down 0:16:37.853,0:16:40.140 into a dead volcano to my left. 0:16:40.164,0:16:43.968 To my right is sheer shale.[br]It's coming off. 0:16:43.992,0:16:47.736 I'm in thongs and sarongs.[br]It was many years ago. 0:16:47.760,0:16:49.361 And no hiking boots. 0:16:49.385,0:16:53.320 And he's disappeared, this[br]mad French gypsy actor, 0:16:53.344,0:16:56.624 off in the smoke, and I realize, 0:16:56.648,0:17:00.552 I can't go back the way that I've come.[br]I can't. 0:17:00.576,0:17:05.233 So I throw away my camera.[br]I throw away my thongs, 0:17:05.257,0:17:08.462 and I looked at the line[br]straight in front of me, 0:17:08.486,0:17:12.096 and I got down on all fours like a cat, 0:17:12.119,0:17:15.117 and I held with my knees to either side 0:17:15.142,0:17:17.511 of this line in front of me, 0:17:17.535,0:17:20.553 for 30 yards or 30 feet, I don't know. 0:17:20.577,0:17:23.266 The wind was massively blowing, 0:17:23.290,0:17:26.695 and the only way I could[br]get to the other side 0:17:26.720,0:17:29.139 was to look at the line[br]straight in front of me. 0:17:29.163,0:17:31.142 I know you've all been there. 0:17:31.166,0:17:33.115 I'm in the crucible right now. 0:17:33.139,0:17:34.979 It's my trial by fire. 0:17:35.003,0:17:37.309 It's my company's trials by fire. 0:17:37.333,0:17:41.566 We survive because our theme[br]song is "Rise Above." 0:17:41.590,0:17:44.707 Boy falls from the sky, rise above. 0:17:44.731,0:17:47.121 It's right there in the palm[br]of both of our hands, 0:17:47.145,0:17:48.748 of all of my company's hands. 0:17:48.772,0:17:52.316 I have beautiful collaborators,[br]and we as creators 0:17:52.340,0:17:54.327 only get there all together. 0:17:54.351,0:17:56.516 I know you understand that. 0:17:56.540,0:17:58.941 And you just stay going forward, 0:17:58.965,0:18:01.582 and then you see this extraordinary thing 0:18:01.606,0:18:03.128 in front of your eyes. 0:18:03.152,0:18:04.428 Thank you. 0:18:04.452,0:18:09.899 (Applause)