0:00:09.726,0:00:29.447 Spanish Realities 0:00:29.447,0:00:32.940 Cataluña, A Region Apart 0:00:40.480,0:00:43.543 In 1977, the people of Cataluña 0:00:43.543,0:00:47.779 celebrated the traditional day of Catalan Solidarity. 0:00:47.779,0:00:49.764 It was the first time they had been able to do so 0:00:49.764,0:00:52.657 since Franco came to part in the 30s. 0:00:52.657,0:00:55.856 One and half million Catalans came into the streets of Barcelona 0:00:55.856,0:00:58.393 to assert their wish for autonomy 0:00:58.393,0:01:02.856 It was hardly an extremist minority. 0:01:02.856,0:01:06.528 Most Catalans feel deeply their right to some form of self-government 0:01:06.528,0:01:08.365 And they have expressed this feeling 0:01:08.365,0:01:11.078 many times in their past 0:01:16.339,0:01:22.271 In 1931, Cataluña declared itself an independent republic. 0:01:24.425,0:01:27.343 It set up its own government - the Generalitat 0:01:27.343,0:01:30.109 and the statute for autonomy was drawn up. 0:01:30.109,0:01:32.015 The new republican government in Madrid 0:01:32.015,0:01:35.653 approved the statute the following year. 0:01:35.653,0:01:37.491 Under its President Macià, 0:01:37.491,0:01:40.526 Cataluña was officially autonomous. 0:01:40.526,0:01:43.472 It was not to last long. 0:01:47.011,0:01:49.174 The civil war. 0:01:50.205,0:01:54.021 Barcelona was one of the last strongholds of resistance to Franco. 0:01:54.067,0:01:58.007 But in January 1939, it too fell to the nationalists. 0:01:58.207,0:02:02.804 The siege of Barcelona was effectively the end of the civil war. 0:02:13.252,0:02:15.591 Thousands of Catalans fled to France. 0:02:16.192,0:02:23.412 In the months that followed, many Catalans, including the Prime Minister, were shot. 0:02:30.090,0:02:33.561 Under Franco, there followed a rigorous and systematic repression 0:02:33.561,0:02:36.705 of everything that was Catalan. 0:02:36.705,0:02:38.531 It was not the first time a Spanish ruler 0:02:38.531,0:02:42.188 had come into conflict with Cataluña 0:02:42.188,0:02:47.020 In 1640, Cataluña declared itself a republic under French protection 0:02:47.020,0:02:53.079 It took the Spanish King 19 years to force Cataluña into submission 0:02:54.219,0:02:57.789 In the 18th century, Cataluña again resisted the Spanish 0:02:57.789,0:02:59.785 siding with Spain's enemy the Hapsburgs, 0:02:59.785,0:03:03.019 in return for their support of Catalan Autonomy. 0:03:03.019,0:03:07.493 40,000 French and Castilian troops laid siege to Barcelona for 13 months 0:03:07.493,0:03:09.515 before it gave in. 0:03:12.300,0:03:16.309 In the 19th century, Catalan uprisings against the central powers of Spain 0:03:16.309,0:03:19.371 were sparked off a number of times. 0:03:21.401,0:03:27.939 In 1842, Barcelona took up arms against the dictatorial regent General Espartero 0:03:27.939,0:03:36.261 who retaliated from the heights of the fortress of Montjuïc, bombarding the city into submission. 0:03:37.492,0:03:41.890 And in 1868, Catalans rebelled against the monarchy 0:03:41.890,0:03:45.755 burning portraits of Queen Isabella II. 0:03:45.755,0:03:48.276 If Cataluña was not always the only region to rebel 0:03:48.276,0:03:53.152 it does have a long standing tradition of resistance to the central powers of Spain 0:03:53.152,0:03:59.534 Senator Josep Benet, a historian and leading Catalan politician explains why: 0:03:59.534,0:04:02.957 Well, there are some very obvious reasons... 0:04:02.957,0:04:06.242 is that Catalonia is a people with a language, 0:04:06.242,0:04:09.658 with a historical tradition, with a different culture, 0:04:09.658,0:04:14.057 totally different from the peoples [br]that occupies the centre of the peninsula 0:04:14.057,0:04:18.742 and that control the politics of the Spanish state. 0:04:18.742,0:04:21.155 They are two different peoples. 0:04:21.155,0:04:25.624 In what ways was Catalonia defined as a nation? 0:04:25.624,0:04:30.507 Right. According to French historian, the eminent historian French, Pierre Vilar, 0:04:30.507,0:04:39.132 Catalonia is one of the earliest medieval peoples to display aspects of the modern 'nation-state'. 0:04:39.132,0:04:46.146 It was a... a people with strong national feeling. 0:04:46.146,0:04:52.383 that early In the Middle Ages adopted structures very close to what would become the modern state. 0:04:52.876,0:04:57.236 Cataluña, one of the earliest forerunners of the nation-state in Europe 0:04:57.236,0:05:00.796 with its own particular language, culture and history. 0:05:00.796,0:05:03.395 The closeness of Cataluña to the rest of Europe 0:05:03.395,0:05:06.456 has been largely responsible for these differences. 0:05:06.456,0:05:10.623 In the 8th century, the Muslims dominated most of Spain and part of France. 0:05:10.623,0:05:13.848 But their influence on the language and culture of Cataluña 0:05:13.848,0:05:16.899 was less than almost anywhere else in the peninsula 0:05:16.899,0:05:20.895 because they only stayed for 90 years. 0:05:20.895,0:05:25.475 In 801, the Franks under Charlemagne, drove the Muslims back out of northern Spain 0:05:25.475,0:05:31.541 For the next two centuries, Cataluña was part of the Frankish Kingdom. 0:05:31.541,0:05:36.745 While the rest of Spain looked south to the Arab world, Cataluña looked north to Europe. 0:05:36.745,0:05:40.819 It was now that the Catalan Language was born. 0:05:40.819,0:05:43.253 Spoken on both sides of the Pyrennees 0:05:43.253,0:05:47.801 It was closer to the Latin dialects of southern France than to those of the peninsula. 0:05:47.801,0:05:51.449 With the decline of the Frankish empire, at the end of the 10th century, 0:05:51.449,0:05:53.841 Cataluña became independent. 0:05:53.841,0:05:57.930 But it never lost its close ties with Europe 0:05:58.622,0:06:03.774 Cataluña shared in the European movement of Romanesque art in the 11th and 12th centuries 0:06:03.774,0:06:09.445 And contributed a highly individual style of its own. 0:06:20.569,0:06:29.726 Catalan Romanesque art was a rich and vital expression of Cataluña's emerging identity. 0:06:45.358,0:06:49.710 Politically as well as culturally, Cataluña was developing its own identity 0:06:49.775,0:06:52.012 From the time of its earliest independent rulers 0:06:52.041,0:06:55.025 Cataluña began to evolve a sophisticated form of government 0:06:55.047,0:06:56.983 based around the court in Barcelona. 0:06:57.018,0:06:59.390 The King ruled by the consent of the court 0:06:59.483,0:07:02.917 and was bound to observe all statutes and laws they had agreed. 0:07:02.969,0:07:06.870 He was one of the earliest forerunners of the constitutional monarch. 0:07:06.978,0:07:08.948 With the creation of the Generalitat 0:07:08.948,0:07:11.319 this system was formalised. 0:07:11.319,0:07:13.834 The Generalitat was the earliest Catalan parliament 0:07:14.280,0:07:19.218 and its function was to approve or disapprove of measures proposed by the King. 0:07:19.218,0:07:22.486 The whole feudal system in Cataluña was sophisticated 0:07:22.486,0:07:26.609 and nothing else like existed in Spain. 0:07:28.626,0:07:31.247 Becoming stronger and more stable, 0:07:31.247,0:07:35.584 Cataluña began to assert itself abroad. 0:07:36.952,0:07:39.228 Under James I of Cataluña 0:07:39.228,0:07:43.013 in the 13th century, Mallorca then Valencia were conquered. 0:07:43.013,0:07:46.074 And in the 14th century, Sicily and Sardinia. 0:07:46.074,0:07:48.418 And later, Naples. 0:07:49.018,0:07:51.457 Cataluña's power was not just military. 0:07:51.457,0:07:54.540 It became the most important trading state in the Mediterranean, 0:07:54.540,0:07:59.617 with Barcelona as its commercial centre and port. 0:07:59.617,0:08:04.818 The Gothic Quarter of the city contains buildings which reflect its wealth at this time. 0:08:04.818,0:08:06.162 In the Middle Ages, 0:08:06.162,0:08:11.851 Barcelona was one of the finest and richest cities in Europe. 0:08:28.737,0:08:32.537 But Cataluña's strength and prosperity were not to last. 0:08:32.537,0:08:36.338 In the 15th century, its population was decimated by a plague. 0:08:36.338,0:08:38.586 And it lost its military and commercial power 0:08:38.586,0:08:42.110 in the Mediterranean to the Turks. 0:08:43.187,0:08:44.899 Under Ferdinand and Isabella, 0:08:44.899,0:08:47.521 Castille became the most important power in the world 0:08:47.521,0:08:49.681 because of its discovery of America. 0:08:49.681,0:08:52.683 But despite Castille's dominance in Spain from then on, 0:08:52.683,0:08:55.522 it never properly assimilated Cataluña. 0:08:55.522,0:08:57.002 Why not? 0:08:57.002,0:09:00.024 With the discovery of the Americas, 0:09:00.024,0:09:01.778 the discoveries in the Americas 0:09:01.778,0:09:07.812 became the property of the Crown of Castille, excluding Catalonia. 0:09:08.382,0:09:10.014 The Crown of Castile was 0:09:10.014,0:09:15.516 formed by a number of states, including naturally, Catalonia 0:09:15.516,0:09:17.817 and Castille reserved for itself 0:09:17.817,0:09:22.378 the exclusive control over trade with the Americas. 0:09:22.378,0:09:24.722 This meant that, during the following centuries, 0:09:24.722,0:09:30.095 Catalans could not move to the Americas, people could not go to America 0:09:30.095,0:09:38.963 like so many people from other Spanish territories moved to America. 0:09:38.963,0:09:45.210 Moreover, Catalonia, had lost practically all the Mediterranean trade 0:09:45.210,0:09:47.614 largely due to the dominance of the Turks. 0:09:47.614,0:09:51.018 It was a people that found it necessary to look inward. 0:09:51.018,0:09:55.531 And thus, it had to find ways of life that worked internally. 0:09:57.623,0:10:02.326 There are strong historical grounds for the Catalans' claim to some form of autonomy. 0:10:02.326,0:10:07.288 And this feeling is not restricted to any political party or social class. 0:10:08.334,0:10:11.176 Catalans have a sense of solidarity as a people 0:10:11.176,0:10:15.659 with characteristics that make them different from other Spaniards. 0:10:16.505,0:10:18.293 How do they see themselves? 0:10:18.293,0:10:21.139 What is the Catalan character? 0:10:21.139,0:10:24.854 Quiet, peaceful, hardworking. 0:10:24.854,0:10:29.547 A Catalan is honest, friendly, pleasant, 0:10:29.547,0:10:33.548 hardworking, direct. 0:10:33.548,0:10:38.260 Traditionally, our character was maybe ... a bit closed 0:10:38.260,0:10:41.058 with, uh, 0:10:41.058,0:10:45.380 a strong spirit for commerce and above all, progressive 0:10:45.380,0:10:48.938 say, more like Europe 0:10:48.938,0:10:50.787 than to the rest of the Iberian Peninsula. 0:10:50.787,0:10:52.716 Are you a Catalanist? 0:10:52.716,0:10:53.868 Yes, sir. 0:10:53.868,0:10:55.502 Are you a Catalanist? 0:10:55.502,0:10:58.384 No. Not at all! 0:10:58.739,0:10:59.890 Are you a Catalanist? 0:10:59.890,0:11:01.611 Well, yes, sir. 0:11:01.611,0:11:03.128 Why? 0:11:03.128,0:11:08.933 Well, I'm... I do not know, I can not say... I feel[br]Catalan... 0:11:08.933,0:11:11.447 and I like ... my language. 0:11:11.447,0:11:13.764 Eh ... well, I'm a Catalanist 0:11:13.764,0:11:17.407 I feel Catalan. I think that Catalonia is a nation, 0:11:17.407,0:11:21.645 that it must be respected as such 0:11:21.645,0:11:30.286 and, after so many years of having been[br]suppressed, 0:11:30.286,0:11:33.606 it has the right and the duty to become and be treated as a nation. 0:11:33.606,0:11:35.527 Are you a Catalanist? 0:11:35.527,0:11:37.304 Well, yes. 0:11:37.304,0:11:38.629 Why? 0:11:38.629,0:11:41.922 Because that's how I feel. 0:11:41.922,0:11:47.207 I believe in the future of ... Catalonia. 0:11:47.207,0:11:50.575 I believe in the history that we've gone through. 0:11:50.575,0:11:55.843 Eh... I have become aware of the myriad of injustices that we have suffered 0:11:55.843,0:11:59.211 and ... I believe in the resurgence of the country. 0:12:00.013,0:12:03.810 A sense of past history is important to Catalanist feelings, 0:12:03.810,0:12:07.797 but the most important thing is the sharing of a common language. 0:12:07.797,0:12:10.417 70% of population speak Catalan, 0:12:10.417,0:12:13.567 and for 50%, it is their first language. 0:12:13.567,0:12:17.603 Under Franco, people were fined on the spot for speaking it in public. 0:12:17.603,0:12:19.817 Today, it is the language of the street once more 0:12:19.817,0:12:22.662 both spoken and written. 0:12:24.001,0:12:24.001 We want green spaces! 0:12:24.001,0:12:24.002 Save the wetlands. 0:12:29.782,0:12:36.105 No, I'm all set. 0:12:36.471,0:12:39.062 OK, if it doesn't come out well, or whatever, you can bring it back. No questions asked. 0:12:39.062,0:12:40.358 - I can exchange it?[br]- Yes, yes, yes, yes. 0:12:40.358,0:12:41.654 The use of Catalan is not confined [br]to any social class or any situation. 0:12:41.654,0:12:47.412 [Catalan-speaking merchant] Forty, and the pears make 130. 0:12:47.412,0:12:48.793 [Customer] 130. Are you sure you added right?[br][Merchant] 130 in total, yes, ma'am. 0:12:48.793,0:12:50.175 [Customer] I don't want the cauliflower.[br][Merchant] OK, OK. 0:12:50.175,0:12:51.557 [Customer] It's too big. [br][Merchant] I see, too big, no problem. 0:12:51.557,0:12:52.940 Catalan is the language of the local market. 0:12:52.940,0:12:56.315 And of the expensive shop. 0:12:56.315,0:12:58.623 [Catalan-speaking Customer] Will they fit? [br][Catalan-speaking merchant] Yes, yes, perfectly. 0:12:58.623,0:13:04.507 And you can use an extension rod if you need to. 0:13:04.507,0:13:05.438 [Customer] Excellent, does that seem good to you? [br][Customer's friend] I think so, I like it. 0:13:05.438,0:13:06.369 [Customer] How much will it be, more or less? 0:13:06.369,0:13:09.489 [Merchant] Around 35,700 pesetas, or so. 0:13:09.489,0:13:13.166 Catalan is the now the official language for regional matters are concerned, 0:13:13.166,0:13:14.769 in government administration 0:13:14.769,0:13:19.183 and in the state-run radio and television system. 0:13:24.450,0:13:27.211 [In Catalan] Good afternoon, Ladies and Gentlemen, [br]undoubtedly, the most important news of the day 0:13:27.211,0:13:33.210 is the meeting held up until a few moments ago [br]In the Hall of the Hundred in the City Hall 0:13:33.210,0:13:38.611 with the members of the Assembly of Catalan parliamentarians. 0:13:38.611,0:13:42.731 There was also a meeting today by the executive council of the Generalitat [Catalan Government] 0:13:42.731,0:13:47.537 [Catalan-speaking technician] Camera one, camera two. Bachs. Camera two on Bachs. 0:13:47.537,0:13:53.076 [Catalan speaker] We can also point out the important changes to the business organization chart 0:13:53.076,0:13:55.803 [Spanish speaking technician] We're shifting to Bachs? 0:13:55.803,0:13:57.817 With the revival of the Catalan language 0:13:57.817,0:14:01.215 has come a resurgence of Catalan culture. 0:14:01.215,0:14:06.677 But memories of repression linger on for painters like Tàpies 0:14:14.495,0:14:16.458 and Guinovart. 0:14:22.504,0:14:27.703 Today, many of Spain's most important artists are Catalan 0:14:34.289,0:14:39.058 The great Catalan artist Joan Miró designed this record cover. 0:14:39.058,0:14:43.938 Cataluña produces many of Spain's best popular musicians. 0:14:49.096,0:14:52.383 Catalan theatre is the most active in Spain. 0:15:09.628,0:15:16.181 Theatre companies provide popular as well as serious entertainment at the yearly Barcelona Festival. 0:15:16.181,0:15:19.364 The liveliness of Catalan culture is a powerful factor 0:15:19.364,0:15:24.158 in Catalans' feelings of solidarity and uniqueness. 0:15:45.577,0:15:49.268 Cataluña has always been one of the most prosperous regions of Spain. 0:15:49.268,0:15:53.656 And economic factors have considerably strengthened its desire for autonomy. 0:15:53.656,0:15:58.455 In the 18th century Cataluña was the first part of Spain to become industrialized. 0:15:58.455,0:16:02.051 And this in itself created tensions with the government in Madrid. 0:16:02.051,0:16:05.057 [Historian Benet; Spanish] This industrialization provoked a further differenciation 0:16:05.057,0:16:09.257 between the Catalan people and the Castillian people 0:16:09.257,0:16:11.696 which was now the dominant power in the state. 0:16:11.696,0:16:13.735 In Catalonia it wasn't just that a different language was spoken 0:16:13.735,0:16:15.616 or that there was a different culture 0:16:15.616,0:16:20.256 but also that what we call an industrial society was formed there. 0:16:20.256,0:16:24.056 In Catalonia, an industrial bourgeosie appeared, and in Catalonia, there was also a working class 0:16:24.056,0:16:29.418 with all of the new problems that were yet unknown in the rest of the Spanish state. 0:16:29.418,0:16:31.215 They were not known in the center. 0:16:31.215,0:16:37.053 And this differentiated them, made one people so different from the others. 0:16:37.053,0:16:40.919 The differences became even more pronounced with industrialization. 0:16:40.919,0:16:45.119 The new industrial working class felt that the Spanish government was so remote 0:16:45.119,0:16:47.532 it could never understand their problems. 0:16:47.532,0:16:51.970 The workers reacted by rejecting the whole political system. 0:16:51.970,0:16:55.929 The left-wing movement that was born had strong anarchist tendencies. 0:16:55.929,0:17:01.210 And this radical tradition was an important factor in Cataluña's hostility to central power 0:17:01.210,0:17:03.972 during the next hundred years. 0:17:03.972,0:17:08.690 But the government was not any more aware of the interests of the new middle class. 0:17:08.690,0:17:12.731 [historian Benet, in Spanish] This provoked a series of very important problems in the Spanish state— 0:17:12.731,0:17:15.868 problems, that can be understood if we take into account 0:17:15.868,0:17:19.286 that Catalonia was the only country in Europe 0:17:19.286,0:17:24.702 that underwent the industrial revolution, but whose bourgeousie 0:17:24.702,0:17:27.049 that was born of the industrial revolution, 0:17:27.049,0:17:31.731 this industrial bourgeousie was the only one in all of Europe that never came to power. 0:17:31.731,0:17:37.246 Instead it was marginalised, and continues to be marginalised from power. 0:17:37.992,0:17:42.906 So the industrialists disliked the central government just as much as their workers did. 0:17:42.911,0:17:44.896 They supported and encouraged the autonomy movement 0:17:44.896,0:17:49.431 even if mostly for reasons of economic self-interest. 0:17:52.251,0:17:56.808 Most industrialists in Cataluña today still support some form of autonomy. 0:17:56.808,0:18:01.286 Corberó is a large manufacturer of domestic electrical appliances. 0:18:01.286,0:18:04.257 Its vice president is a strong supporter of autonomy. 0:18:04.257,0:18:07.264 In what ways does Pedro Corberó think 0:18:07.264,0:18:10.895 Cataluña has suffered under a centralised regime? 0:18:11.943,0:18:17.855 [P.Corberó, in Spanish] I think that it has suffered in two ways: 0:18:17.855,0:18:22.505 economically and politically. 0:18:23.675,0:18:30.538 Economically, the Catalan country has been very conditioned 0:18:30.538,0:18:34.172 by the economic power of the Spanish state. 0:18:34.849,0:18:39.497 Because here in Catalonia, those institutions weren't there and there wasn't this mentality 0:18:39.497,0:18:47.058 of... or the strong base of powerful financial firms who could give this support. 0:18:47.058,0:18:52.817 In the political field, it's because all of the pertinent decisions 0:18:52.817,0:18:57.176 that is pertinent to the business world, and specifically to the Catalan business world. 0:18:57.176,0:19:02.338 were made, and are made, in Madrid, without Catalan participation. 0:19:03.940,0:19:06.460 The Catalan industrialist wants autonomy 0:19:06.460,0:19:08.702 partly because it makes for more efficient business, 0:19:08.702,0:19:13.860 and partly because he wants Cataluña to benefit more directly from its own profits. 0:19:15.167,0:19:23.777 [P.Corberó, in Spanish] Principally, the benefits would be related to a whole gamut of services 0:19:23.777,0:19:28.984 not specfically tied to a given company. 0:19:28.984,0:19:31.176 That's it, principally. 0:19:31.176,0:19:38.297 Undoubtedly, in the Catalan country we're worried because we know that only a third of 0:19:38.297,0:19:42.615 of what Catalonia gives to the Spanish state comes back to Catalonia. 0:19:42.615,0:19:49.917 This is what makes us worry because we really already have the results of a lack of a whole series 0:19:49.917,0:19:56.173 of services, and that's what keeps us from properly structuring the country. 0:19:57.576,0:20:01.392 If the Catalan industrialist has always supported autonomy, 0:20:01.392,0:20:03.695 today's workers feel differently. 0:20:03.695,0:20:05.301 Most of them are non-Catalan. 0:20:05.301,0:20:07.980 In Corberó's factory as many as 80%. 0:20:07.980,0:20:12.502 They come to Cataluña from poorer parts of Spain for a job and better pay. 0:20:12.502,0:20:14.781 These workers are outsiders in a community 0:20:14.781,0:20:18.139 which is in the process of asserting its differences from others. 0:20:18.139,0:20:23.437 Integration is a problem[br]which autonomy can only make more difficult. 0:20:24.658,0:20:29.939 In the industrial zone around Barcelona, the communities are largely non-Catalan. 0:20:29.939,0:20:33.820 The "Barrio Seat" is where the workers of the SEAT car factory live 0:20:33.820,0:20:36.217 in housing provided by the company. 0:20:36.217,0:20:43.053 It's a very closed community with its own shops, bars, social facilities and its own school. 0:20:45.258,0:20:50.018 85% of the SEAT workers come from other parts of Spain, mostly the south. 0:20:50.018,0:20:52.703 And few of them speak any Catalan. 0:20:52.703,0:20:54.696 They are known as immigrants 0:20:54.696,0:20:59.815 and the problems of integration for them are considerable. 0:20:59.815,0:21:02.936 The Catalan headmistress of a local school came to work in this district 0:21:02.936,0:21:05.937 because she was concerned about these problems. 0:21:05.937,0:21:07.696 Maria Teresa Codina: 0:21:07.696,0:21:12.378 [Spanish] I believe that language is the most visible problem and the one that's most obvious. 0:21:12.378,0:21:21.698 But the underlying problems are of adaptation, social problems above all. 0:21:21.698,0:21:27.018 It's the problem of subsistence, to figuring out how they're going to earn a living 0:21:27.018,0:21:35.843 how to get along with others, and how to get to, get access to, and rise to better situations. 0:21:35.843,0:21:41.016 The predominance of non-Catalan workers in the factories, creates a kind of class distinction. 0:21:41.016,0:21:43.137 Spanish is the language of the shop floor 0:21:43.137,0:21:46.097 Catalan the language of the boardroom. 0:21:46.097,0:21:48.458 But the managers are aware of how divisive this is, 0:21:48.458,0:21:52.296 and insist on Spanish as the official language of the factory. 0:21:52.296,0:21:56.332 But it's still a powerful barrier between worker and employer. 0:21:56.332,0:21:58.258 [Catalan teacher speaks] Louder, I can't hear you. 0:21:58.258,0:22:00.058 [Child, in Spanish] No [br][Teacher, in Catalan] No, what? 0:22:00.058,0:22:01.515 [Child in Spanish] that you don't sit down[br](NB: sentar-se in Catalan means to hear, sentarse in Spanish means to sit down) 0:22:01.515,0:22:06.224 [Teacher] No, man, I don't sit down. What time do you get up? 0:22:06.224,0:22:11.665 So learning the language is an important first step in integration. 0:22:11.665,0:22:16.217 The teaching of Catalan in all schools began in 1978. 0:22:16.217,0:22:21.697 It should make integration for second generation immigrants much easier than for their parents. 0:22:21.697,0:22:23.779 As Señora Codina explains: 0:22:23.779,0:22:29.019 [Spanish] The immigrant thinks, one, that they're changing by accepting a culture, and taking on that culture, 0:22:29.019,0:22:34.099 that they're acquiring the culture of the community that has received them, that is, Catalonia. 0:22:34.099,0:22:39.258 But then, what happens is that they stop building on their own culture. 0:22:39.258,0:22:43.700 They leave behind the traditions that they had, that belonged to them, that gave them security. 0:22:43.700,0:22:49.864 which gave them their identity, and very often they ended up not having one thing or the other. 0:22:51.447,0:22:56.898 The assertion of Catalan autonomy may have aggravated problems of integration. 0:22:56.898,0:23:00.661 But then the association of different regions into one Spanish nation 0:23:00.661,0:23:02.580 has always been a problem. 0:23:02.580,0:23:06.499 In the past, the answer has frequently been dictatorship. 0:23:06.499,0:23:09.778 Now other solutions are possible. 0:23:09.778,0:23:13.938 [Benet, in Spanish] We believe that Spain, a Spanish state, with a federalist structure 0:23:13.938,0:23:22.175 would be the best way to resolve the problems between the different peoples that make up the Spanish state. 0:23:22.175,0:23:26.780 A federation that we can imagine open even to Portugal 0:23:26.780,0:23:30.482 so that all the peoples on the peninsula would be included. 0:23:30.482,0:23:34.736 And that we also see this as a step towards a united Europe 0:23:34.736,0:23:37.232 that we would like to see happen one day. 0:23:37.232,0:23:41.232 A Europe that would be an authentic federation of peoples. 0:23:41.232,0:23:47.499 Now, however, we are realistic, and for the moment, for a series of reasons, 0:23:47.499,0:23:52.148 this federal state is not yet possible in Spain. 0:23:52.148,0:23:58.018 And for that reason, we accept this State structured with “autonomies” that 0:23:58.018,0:24:02.178 is how the current Spanish situation can be defined. 0:24:02.178,0:24:07.741 A single unitary state, but that is compatible with the autonomy of all of the peoples 0:24:07.741,0:24:10.178 that make up the Spanish state. 0:24:10.178,0:24:19.695 [Voices, in Catalan] We want, yes, yes, freedom, amnesty, we want, yes, yes 0:24:19.695,0:24:22.102 freedom, amnesty, we want, yes, yes 0:24:22.102,0:24:26.102 [Catalan National Anthem, "Els Segadors"] 0:24:29.587,0:24:33.088 These subtitles were transcribed, timed and translated not by Google's bots 0:24:33.088,0:24:37.169 but by interested human volunteers, like you, 0:24:37.169,0:24:41.923 using the online collaboration tools at[br]www.amara.org