1 00:00:01,341 --> 00:00:03,833 Like most journalists, I'm an idealist. 2 00:00:03,857 --> 00:00:08,158 I love unearthing good stories, especially untold stories. 3 00:00:09,126 --> 00:00:11,559 I just didn't think that in 2011, 4 00:00:11,583 --> 00:00:13,744 women would still be in that category. 5 00:00:14,538 --> 00:00:18,515 I'm the President of the Journalism and Women Symposium -- JAWS. 6 00:00:18,539 --> 00:00:19,691 That's Sharky. 7 00:00:19,715 --> 00:00:21,206 (Laughter) 8 00:00:21,230 --> 00:00:24,034 I joined 10 years ago because I wanted female role models, 9 00:00:24,058 --> 00:00:28,257 and I was frustrated by the lagging status of women in our profession 10 00:00:28,281 --> 00:00:30,926 and what that meant for our image in the media. 11 00:00:32,086 --> 00:00:34,189 We make up half the population of the world, 12 00:00:34,213 --> 00:00:36,800 but we're just 24 percent of the news subjects 13 00:00:36,824 --> 00:00:38,324 quoted in news stories. 14 00:00:38,752 --> 00:00:42,065 And we're just 20 percent of the experts quoted in stories. 15 00:00:42,461 --> 00:00:44,533 And now, with today's technology, 16 00:00:44,557 --> 00:00:47,739 it's possible to remove women from the picture completely. 17 00:00:48,588 --> 00:00:52,460 This is a picture of President Barack Obama and his advisors, 18 00:00:52,484 --> 00:00:54,572 tracking the killing of Osama bin Laden. 19 00:00:54,596 --> 00:00:56,730 You can see Hillary Clinton on the right. 20 00:00:57,261 --> 00:00:58,581 Let's see how the photo ran 21 00:00:58,605 --> 00:01:01,453 in an Orthodox Jewish newspaper based in Brooklyn. 22 00:01:02,327 --> 00:01:04,040 Hillary's completely gone. 23 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:06,912 (Laughter) 24 00:01:06,936 --> 00:01:09,985 The paper apologized, but said it never runs photos of women; 25 00:01:10,009 --> 00:01:11,941 they might be sexually provocative. 26 00:01:11,965 --> 00:01:14,075 (Laughter) 27 00:01:14,099 --> 00:01:16,147 This is an extreme case, yes. 28 00:01:16,171 --> 00:01:17,338 But the fact is, 29 00:01:17,362 --> 00:01:21,481 women are only 19 percent of the sources in stories on politics, 30 00:01:21,505 --> 00:01:24,517 and only 20 percent in stories on the economy. 31 00:01:26,210 --> 00:01:28,091 The news continues to give us a picture 32 00:01:28,115 --> 00:01:29,727 where men outnumber women 33 00:01:29,751 --> 00:01:32,465 in nearly all occupational categories, except two: 34 00:01:32,489 --> 00:01:34,977 students and homemakers. 35 00:01:35,001 --> 00:01:36,258 (Laughter) 36 00:01:36,282 --> 00:01:39,311 So we all get a very distorted picture of reality. 37 00:01:40,414 --> 00:01:43,520 The problem is, of course, there aren't enough women in newsrooms. 38 00:01:43,544 --> 00:01:47,449 They report at just 37 percent of stories in print, TV and radio. 39 00:01:48,006 --> 00:01:51,086 Even in stories on gender-based violence, 40 00:01:51,110 --> 00:01:54,713 men get an overwhelming majority of print space and airtime. 41 00:01:54,737 --> 00:01:55,888 Case in point: 42 00:01:56,999 --> 00:01:59,903 This March, the New York Times ran a story by James McKinley 43 00:01:59,927 --> 00:02:01,581 about a gang rape of a young girl, 44 00:02:01,605 --> 00:02:03,943 11 years old, in a small Texas town. 45 00:02:04,515 --> 00:02:07,570 McKinley writes that the community is wondering, 46 00:02:07,594 --> 00:02:10,416 "How could their boys have been drawn into this?" 47 00:02:11,136 --> 00:02:12,540 "Drawn into this" -- 48 00:02:12,564 --> 00:02:15,644 like they were seduced into committing an act of violence. 49 00:02:15,668 --> 00:02:17,653 And the first person he quotes says, 50 00:02:17,677 --> 00:02:20,750 "These boys will have to live with this the rest of their lives." 51 00:02:20,774 --> 00:02:23,016 (Groans, laughter) 52 00:02:23,636 --> 00:02:26,620 You don't hear much about the 11-year-old victim, 53 00:02:26,644 --> 00:02:30,061 except that she wore clothes that were a little old for her 54 00:02:30,085 --> 00:02:31,497 and she wore makeup. 55 00:02:32,223 --> 00:02:34,918 The Times was deluged with criticism. 56 00:02:35,370 --> 00:02:36,949 Initially, it defended itself, 57 00:02:36,973 --> 00:02:38,694 and said, "These aren't our views. 58 00:02:38,718 --> 00:02:40,646 This is what we found in our reporting." 59 00:02:40,670 --> 00:02:42,952 Now, here's a secret you probably know already: 60 00:02:43,492 --> 00:02:45,090 Your stories are constructed. 61 00:02:45,114 --> 00:02:48,135 As reporters, we research, we interview. 62 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:51,067 We try to give a good picture of reality. 63 00:02:51,091 --> 00:02:53,836 We also have our own unconscious biases. 64 00:02:53,860 --> 00:02:57,383 But The Times makes it sound like anyone would have reported this story 65 00:02:57,407 --> 00:02:58,558 the same way. 66 00:02:59,175 --> 00:03:00,623 I disagree with that. 67 00:03:01,083 --> 00:03:02,835 So three weeks later, 68 00:03:02,859 --> 00:03:04,386 The Times revisits the story. 69 00:03:04,410 --> 00:03:08,159 This time, it adds another byline to it with McKinley's: 70 00:03:08,183 --> 00:03:09,659 Erica Goode. 71 00:03:09,683 --> 00:03:12,585 What emerges is a truly sad, horrific tale 72 00:03:12,609 --> 00:03:15,568 of a young girl and her family trapped in poverty. 73 00:03:15,592 --> 00:03:18,267 She was raped numerous times by many men. 74 00:03:18,703 --> 00:03:21,093 She had been a bright, easygoing girl. 75 00:03:21,117 --> 00:03:23,679 She was maturing quickly, physically, 76 00:03:23,703 --> 00:03:26,695 but her bed was still covered with stuffed animals. 77 00:03:26,719 --> 00:03:28,282 It's a very different picture. 78 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:32,327 Perhaps the addition of Ms. Goode is what made this story more complete. 79 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,070 The Global Media Monitoring Project has found that stories by female reporters 80 00:03:37,094 --> 00:03:40,863 are more likely to challenge stereotypes than those by male reporters. 81 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:42,260 At KUNM here in Albuquerque, 82 00:03:42,284 --> 00:03:44,419 Elaine Baumgartel did some graduate research 83 00:03:44,443 --> 00:03:46,712 on the coverage of violence against women. 84 00:03:46,736 --> 00:03:50,109 What she found was many of these stories tend to blame victims 85 00:03:50,133 --> 00:03:51,652 and devalue their lives. 86 00:03:51,676 --> 00:03:54,883 They tend to sensationalize, and they lack context. 87 00:03:55,423 --> 00:03:56,638 So for her graduate work, 88 00:03:56,662 --> 00:03:59,559 she did a three-part series on the murder of 11 women, 89 00:03:59,583 --> 00:04:02,159 found buried on Albuquerque's West Mesa. 90 00:04:02,183 --> 00:04:05,547 She tried to challenge those patterns and stereotypes in her work 91 00:04:05,571 --> 00:04:08,412 and she tried to show the challenges that journalists face 92 00:04:08,436 --> 00:04:11,956 from external sources, their own internal biases 93 00:04:11,980 --> 00:04:13,279 and cultural norms. 94 00:04:13,652 --> 00:04:16,375 And she worked with an editor at National Public Radio 95 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:18,932 to try to get a story aired nationally. 96 00:04:18,956 --> 00:04:22,901 She's not sure that would have happened if the editor had not been a female. 97 00:04:23,472 --> 00:04:24,671 Stories in the news 98 00:04:24,695 --> 00:04:28,932 are more than twice as likely to present women as victims than men, 99 00:04:28,956 --> 00:04:32,805 and women are more likely to be defined by their body parts. 100 00:04:33,562 --> 00:04:35,750 Wired magazine, November 2010. 101 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,550 Yes, the issue was about breast-tissue engineering. 102 00:04:40,769 --> 00:04:43,443 Now I know you're all distracted, so I'll take that off. 103 00:04:43,467 --> 00:04:44,468 (Laughter) 104 00:04:44,492 --> 00:04:45,646 Eyes up here. 105 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:48,922 (Laughter) 106 00:04:48,946 --> 00:04:50,097 So -- 107 00:04:50,121 --> 00:04:54,299 (Applause) 108 00:04:54,323 --> 00:04:55,483 Here's the thing: 109 00:04:55,507 --> 00:04:58,064 Wired almost never puts women on its cover. 110 00:04:58,414 --> 00:05:00,391 Oh, there have been some gimmicky ones -- 111 00:05:00,415 --> 00:05:02,017 Pam from "The Office," 112 00:05:02,041 --> 00:05:03,950 manga girls, 113 00:05:03,974 --> 00:05:06,595 a voluptuous model covered in synthetic diamonds. 114 00:05:07,863 --> 00:05:11,431 Texas State University professor Cindy Royal wondered in her blog 115 00:05:11,455 --> 00:05:15,446 how are young women like her students supposed to feel about their roles 116 00:05:15,470 --> 00:05:16,938 in technology, reading Wired. 117 00:05:16,962 --> 00:05:20,215 Chris Anderson, the editor of Wired, defended his choice 118 00:05:20,239 --> 00:05:22,628 and said there aren't enough women, prominent women 119 00:05:22,652 --> 00:05:25,775 in technology to sell a cover, to sell an issue. 120 00:05:26,581 --> 00:05:27,740 Part of that is true, 121 00:05:27,764 --> 00:05:30,312 there aren't as many prominent women in technology. 122 00:05:30,336 --> 00:05:32,334 Here's my problem with that argument: 123 00:05:32,850 --> 00:05:35,429 Media tells us every day what's important, 124 00:05:35,453 --> 00:05:37,956 by the stories they choose and where they place them; 125 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:39,445 it's called agenda setting. 126 00:05:40,433 --> 00:05:43,168 How many people knew the founders of Facebook and Google 127 00:05:43,192 --> 00:05:45,360 before their faces were on a magazine cover? 128 00:05:45,384 --> 00:05:47,846 Putting them there made them more recognizable. 129 00:05:48,265 --> 00:05:51,061 Now, Fast Company Magazine embraces that idea. 130 00:05:51,085 --> 00:05:54,010 This is its cover from November 15, 2010. 131 00:05:54,371 --> 00:05:58,445 The issue is about the most prominent and influential women in technology. 132 00:05:58,827 --> 00:06:01,366 Editor Robert Safian told the Poynter Institute, 133 00:06:01,390 --> 00:06:04,237 "Silicon Valley is very white and very male. 134 00:06:04,261 --> 00:06:06,555 But that's not what Fast Company thinks 135 00:06:06,579 --> 00:06:08,943 the business world will look like in the future, 136 00:06:08,967 --> 00:06:12,643 so it tries to give a picture of where the globalized world is moving." 137 00:06:13,354 --> 00:06:16,020 By the way, apparently, Wired took all this to heart. 138 00:06:16,459 --> 00:06:18,008 This was its issue in April. 139 00:06:18,032 --> 00:06:19,910 (Laughter) 140 00:06:19,934 --> 00:06:22,751 That's Limor Fried, the founder of Adafruit Industries, 141 00:06:22,775 --> 00:06:24,449 in the Rosie the Riveter pose. 142 00:06:25,704 --> 00:06:29,174 It would help to have more women in positions of leadership in media. 143 00:06:29,198 --> 00:06:30,435 A recent global survey 144 00:06:30,459 --> 00:06:33,325 found that 73 percent of the top media-management jobs 145 00:06:33,349 --> 00:06:34,993 are still held by men. 146 00:06:35,335 --> 00:06:37,968 But this is also about something far more complex: 147 00:06:37,992 --> 00:06:40,960 our own unconscious biases and blind spots. 148 00:06:41,817 --> 00:06:43,441 Shankar Vedantam is the author 149 00:06:43,465 --> 00:06:46,513 of "The Hidden Brain: How Our Unconscious Minds Elect Presidents, 150 00:06:46,537 --> 00:06:49,199 Control Markets, Wage Wars, and Save Our Lives." 151 00:06:49,718 --> 00:06:52,845 He told the former ombudsman at National Public Radio, 152 00:06:52,869 --> 00:06:56,606 who was doing a report on how women fare in NPR coverage, 153 00:06:56,630 --> 00:06:59,720 unconscious bias flows throughout most of our lives. 154 00:06:59,744 --> 00:07:02,712 It's really difficult to disentangle those strands. 155 00:07:03,311 --> 00:07:04,920 But he did have one suggestion. 156 00:07:05,301 --> 00:07:08,092 He used to work for two editors 157 00:07:08,116 --> 00:07:11,487 who said every story had to have at least one female source. 158 00:07:12,099 --> 00:07:13,592 He balked at first, 159 00:07:13,616 --> 00:07:16,568 but said he eventually followed the directive happily, 160 00:07:16,592 --> 00:07:18,033 because his stories got better 161 00:07:18,057 --> 00:07:19,533 and his job got easier. 162 00:07:20,014 --> 00:07:22,612 Now, I don't know if one of the editors was a woman, 163 00:07:22,636 --> 00:07:25,013 but that can make the biggest difference. 164 00:07:25,037 --> 00:07:29,003 The Dallas Morning News won a Pulitzer Prize in 1994 165 00:07:29,027 --> 00:07:31,630 for a series it did on women around the world, 166 00:07:31,654 --> 00:07:33,361 but one of the reporters told me 167 00:07:33,385 --> 00:07:35,734 she's convinced it never would have happened 168 00:07:35,758 --> 00:07:39,169 if they had not had a female assistant foreign editor, 169 00:07:39,193 --> 00:07:41,677 and they would not have gotten some of those stories 170 00:07:41,701 --> 00:07:44,192 without female reporters and editors on the ground, 171 00:07:44,216 --> 00:07:47,118 particularly one on female genital mutilation -- 172 00:07:47,142 --> 00:07:49,807 men would just not be allowed into those situations. 173 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:52,454 This is an important point to consider, 174 00:07:52,478 --> 00:07:55,734 because much of our foreign policy now revolves around countries 175 00:07:55,758 --> 00:07:58,179 where the treatment of women is an issue, 176 00:07:58,203 --> 00:07:59,568 such as Afghanistan. 177 00:08:01,578 --> 00:08:05,702 What we're told in terms of arguments against leaving this country 178 00:08:05,726 --> 00:08:08,590 is that the fate of the women is primary. 179 00:08:09,701 --> 00:08:13,415 Now, I'm sure a male reporter in Kabul can find women to interview. 180 00:08:13,835 --> 00:08:17,607 Not so sure about rural, traditional areas, 181 00:08:17,631 --> 00:08:20,310 where I'm guessing women can't talk to strange men. 182 00:08:20,858 --> 00:08:24,443 It's important to keep talking about this, in light of Lara Logan. 183 00:08:24,881 --> 00:08:27,033 She was the CBS News correspondent 184 00:08:27,057 --> 00:08:29,970 who was brutally sexually assaulted in Egypt's Tahrir Square, 185 00:08:29,994 --> 00:08:31,760 right after this photo was taken. 186 00:08:32,133 --> 00:08:34,902 Almost immediately, pundits weighed in, 187 00:08:34,926 --> 00:08:38,165 blaming her and saying things like, 188 00:08:38,189 --> 00:08:41,589 "You know, maybe women shouldn't be sent to cover those stories." 189 00:08:41,613 --> 00:08:44,850 I never heard anyone say this about Anderson Cooper and his crew, 190 00:08:44,874 --> 00:08:47,482 who were attacked covering the same story. 191 00:08:48,387 --> 00:08:50,438 One way to get more women into leadership 192 00:08:50,462 --> 00:08:52,239 is to have other women mentor them. 193 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,233 One of my board members is an editor at a major global media company, 194 00:08:56,257 --> 00:08:58,893 but she never thought about this as a career path, 195 00:08:58,917 --> 00:09:01,425 until she met female role models at JAWS. 196 00:09:02,425 --> 00:09:04,925 But this is not just a job for super-journalists 197 00:09:04,949 --> 00:09:06,128 or my organization. 198 00:09:06,152 --> 00:09:08,782 You all have a stake in a strong, vibrant media. 199 00:09:09,743 --> 00:09:11,076 Analyze your news. 200 00:09:11,474 --> 00:09:14,031 And speak up when there are gaps missing in coverage, 201 00:09:14,055 --> 00:09:16,006 like people at The New York Times did. 202 00:09:16,030 --> 00:09:19,037 Suggest female sources to reporters and editors. 203 00:09:19,410 --> 00:09:22,899 Remember -- a complete picture of reality may depend upon it. 204 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,195 And I'll leave you with a video clip 205 00:09:25,219 --> 00:09:28,749 that I first saw in [1987] when I was a student in London. 206 00:09:29,137 --> 00:09:30,709 It's for The Guardian newspaper. 207 00:09:30,733 --> 00:09:34,082 It's actually long before I ever thought about becoming a journalist, 208 00:09:34,106 --> 00:09:37,288 but I was very interested in how we learn to perceive our world. 209 00:09:38,823 --> 00:09:43,156 Narrator: An event seen from one point of view gives one impression. 210 00:09:48,579 --> 00:09:50,331 Seen from another point of view, 211 00:09:50,355 --> 00:09:52,720 it gives quite a different impression. 212 00:09:54,982 --> 00:09:57,360 But it's only when you get the whole picture, 213 00:09:57,384 --> 00:10:00,050 you can fully understand what's going on. 214 00:10:03,809 --> 00:10:05,801 [The Guardian] 215 00:10:05,825 --> 00:10:07,747 Megan Kamerick: I think you'll all agree 216 00:10:07,771 --> 00:10:10,531 that we'd be better off if we all had the whole picture.