WEBVTT 00:00:04.796 --> 00:00:08.342 It's been a few years since I’ve checked in with The Bechdel Test For Women in Movies 00:00:08.342 --> 00:00:10.469 so I thought I’d be a good time to look in on Hollywood 00:00:10.469 --> 00:00:14.640 and see if there's been any substantial improvement in women's representations on the big screen. 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:20.229 One way to do this is to apply the test to the films that have been nominated for best picture in the 2011 Academy Awards, 00:00:20.229 --> 00:00:23.398 since the Oscars are widely regarded as the “best of the best” 00:00:23.398 --> 00:00:25.817 at least as determined by the industry itself. 00:00:25.817 --> 00:00:30.155 But before I get to that, here’s a quick refresher on what the Bechdel Test is and how it works. 00:00:30.155 --> 00:00:34.064 The Bechdel Test is a very basic gauge to measure women's relevance to a film's plot 00:00:34.064 --> 00:00:36.850 and generally to assess female presence in Hollywood movies. 00:00:36.850 --> 00:00:41.517 It was popularized by Allison Bechdel in her comic Dykes to Watch Out For back in 1985. 00:00:41.517 --> 00:00:45.767 In order to pass the test a film just needs to fulfill these three, very simple, criteria: 00:00:45.767 --> 00:00:49.049 A movie has to have at least two women in it who have names, 00:00:49.049 --> 00:00:50.480 who talk to each other, 00:00:50.480 --> 00:00:52.431 about something besides a man. 00:00:52.431 --> 00:00:53.638 Pretty simple right? 00:00:53.638 --> 00:00:56.765 I mean this is really the absolute lowest that we could possibly set the bar 00:00:56.765 --> 00:00:59.268 for women’s meaningful presence in movies. 00:00:59.268 --> 00:01:01.228 Let’s remember that this was made as a bit of a joke 00:01:01.228 --> 00:01:05.649 to make fun of the fact that there are so few movies with significant female characters in them. 00:01:05.649 --> 00:01:08.068 The reason the test has become so important in recent years 00:01:08.068 --> 00:01:12.447 is because it actually does highlight a serious and ongoing problem within the entertainment industry. 00:01:12.447 --> 00:01:15.867 So with that in mind, let’s take a look at the Academy Award best picture nominees 00:01:15.867 --> 00:01:18.745 for 2011 and see how they measure up to the Bechdel Test. 00:01:18.745 --> 00:01:20.596 First up the Descendents. 00:01:20.596 --> 00:01:23.754 It’s a story of a father pulling his family through a crisis. 00:01:23.754 --> 00:01:27.129 The mother is basically fridged before the opening credits even finish rolling 00:01:27.129 --> 00:01:29.923 to provide the catalyst for the father figure’s growth. 00:01:29.923 --> 00:01:34.469 This film does pass the test because of a handful of brief interactions between female characters, 00:01:34.469 --> 00:01:37.556 including between the two daughters, Alex and Scotty. 00:01:37.556 --> 00:01:42.894 Moneyball is a story about an American League baseball team centered around their general manager Billy Beane. 00:01:42.894 --> 00:01:47.566 It fails the test badly, not even having two female characters speak to each other at all. 00:01:47.566 --> 00:01:51.153 Even so it’s a surprisingly funny and captivating movie. 00:01:51.153 --> 00:01:54.323 Tree of Life is a more experimental film about a boy and his family. 00:01:54.323 --> 00:01:57.563 It fails the test because the only brief scene where two women talk, 00:01:57.563 --> 00:02:00.329 the conversation is about the death of the family's son. 00:02:00.329 --> 00:02:03.165 While it's true there's very little dialogue in the film as a whole, 00:02:03.165 --> 00:02:06.340 the father and the son do speak to each other on multiple occasions. 00:02:06.340 --> 00:02:11.262 Hugo is a whimsical film about an orphan boy trying to solve a mystery left by his father. 00:02:11.262 --> 00:02:14.134 And while there are two named female characters who speak to each other, 00:02:14.134 --> 00:02:17.253 their conversation is always in relationship to a man 00:02:17.253 --> 00:02:21.391 except this one 5 second interaction that some might argue constitutes a pass. 00:02:21.391 --> 00:02:25.896 Isabelle: You were an actress? A real cinema actress, it’s impossibly romantic mama. 00:02:25.896 --> 00:02:30.609 Mama: It wasn’t like that, we weren’t movie stars like they have today. 00:02:30.609 --> 00:02:34.446 If while at the theater you drop your box of junior mints, and by the time you pick em up 00:02:34.446 --> 00:02:37.919 you’ve missed the one scene in the whole film where women actually talk to each other, 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.009 there’s something clearly wrong. 00:02:40.009 --> 00:02:43.167 Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close also fails the test. 00:02:43.167 --> 00:02:47.376 It follows the story of a boy dealing with the trauma of losing his father on 9/11. 00:02:47.376 --> 00:02:51.340 Two women never talk to each other about anything other than the boy. 00:02:51.340 --> 00:02:55.752 In classic Woody Allan style, Midnight in Paris is about a man struggling to discover himself 00:02:55.752 --> 00:02:58.011 and while there’s a handful of women in the picture, 00:02:58.011 --> 00:03:01.848 they never really discuss anything other than men and men's influence on their lives. 00:03:01.848 --> 00:03:05.760 Some critics have argued that this scene between Inez and her mother constitutes a pass. 00:03:05.760 --> 00:03:10.102 Helen: Come look at these Inez. Wouldn’t these be charming in a Malibu beach house? 00:03:10.102 --> 00:03:11.286 Inez: oh 00:03:11.286 --> 00:03:12.493 Helen: Combien monsieur? 00:03:12.493 --> 00:03:14.119 Shop Owner: dix-huit mille 00:03:14.119 --> 00:03:15.280 Helen : Merci 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:16.154 Inez : What is that? 00:03:16.154 --> 00:03:17.669 Helen: They’re a steal at 18,000 dollars. 00:03:17.669 --> 00:03:20.575 Gil: 18,000 dollars for this!? 00:03:20.575 --> 00:03:21.828 Helen: Oh wait it’s euros… 00:03:21.828 --> 00:03:26.123 But as you’ll notice Owen Wilson’s character and the shop keeper are also involved in the interaction. 00:03:26.123 --> 00:03:27.749 So I’d say it fails. 00:03:27.749 --> 00:03:30.794 But I'll come back to this one line question later in the video 00:03:30.794 --> 00:03:32.834 What’s even more embarrassing about this film 00:03:32.834 --> 00:03:37.092 is that one of the most important historical figures that Gil interacts with is Gertrude Stein. 00:03:37.092 --> 00:03:39.010 For those of you who aren’t familiar with her, 00:03:39.010 --> 00:03:42.772 Stein is one of the most famous writers and lesbians in American history, 00:03:42.772 --> 00:03:47.727 and Woody Allan has the nerve to not have her speak to another female character in the entire film. 00:03:47.727 --> 00:03:49.980 War Horse is a story about a boy and his horse. 00:03:49.980 --> 00:03:51.619 It fails. 00:03:51.619 --> 00:03:53.316 So moving on. 00:03:53.316 --> 00:03:56.903 The Help is a woman centered story with a large female cast, 00:03:56.903 --> 00:03:58.780 there’s no doubt that this film passes the test. 00:03:58.780 --> 00:04:03.285 While the film is deeply problematic when it comes to portraying issues of racism in America, 00:04:03.285 --> 00:04:07.831 both Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer give incredible and moving performances. 00:04:07.831 --> 00:04:11.426 Finally, we have the The Artist, which it’s true, is a silent film. 00:04:11.426 --> 00:04:16.418 So you might be asking how we do apply the Bechdel Test to a film without any spoken dialogue? 00:04:16.418 --> 00:04:20.510 Well in classic Silent movie style characters do communicate with each other 00:04:20.510 --> 00:04:22.177 via title cards, 00:04:22.177 --> 00:04:23.221 mouthing words, 00:04:23.221 --> 00:04:26.850 facial expressions, physical gestures and pantomime. 00:04:26.850 --> 00:04:30.896 So for this one I’ll accept any non-verbal communication between two women 00:04:30.896 --> 00:04:34.019 that has any significance to the plot that’s not about a man. 00:04:34.019 --> 00:04:36.898 And amazingly… it still fails. 00:04:36.898 --> 00:04:41.656 It looks like out of the 9 best picture nominees in 2011 only 2 clearly pass the bechdel test, 00:04:41.656 --> 00:04:44.451 while 2 others are questionable about one line. 00:04:44.451 --> 00:04:48.288 And notably only one film nominated is female centered. 00:04:48.288 --> 00:04:50.081 Coming back to Hugo and Midnight in Paris, 00:04:50.081 --> 00:04:54.917 unfortunately, discussions and debates surrounding the Bechdel test often descend into quibbling over whether 00:04:54.917 --> 00:04:59.514 one brief and questionable exchange makes a movie pass the test or not. 00:04:59.514 --> 00:05:02.254 It’s not really necessary to get bogged down in the minutia 00:05:02.254 --> 00:05:05.305 of whether one 10 second scene constitutes “talking to each other”. 00:05:05.305 --> 00:05:07.682 If there’s really that much of a debate about this point, 00:05:07.682 --> 00:05:12.169 then it’s a pretty good indicator that there’s a problem with women’s representation in the movie. 00:05:12.169 --> 00:05:13.772 So, in the spirit of the Bechdel test, 00:05:13.772 --> 00:05:16.836 I'd like to respectfully propose adding a small addendum: 00:05:16.836 --> 00:05:19.158 A film has to have two named women who speak to each other 00:05:19.158 --> 00:05:23.082 for longer than 60 seconds about something besides a man. 00:05:23.082 --> 00:05:25.335 This new 60 second rule would help to clarify the test 00:05:25.335 --> 00:05:28.539 and resolve some of the quibbles over one or two lines 00:05:28.539 --> 00:05:31.883 and if two women do speak to each other for more then 60 seconds 00:05:31.883 --> 00:05:35.544 there’s a slightly better chance that the dialogue will have some relevance to the plot, 00:05:35.544 --> 00:05:37.170 maybe. 00:05:37.170 --> 00:05:43.385 I mean, its only 1 minute out of a 90 or 120 minute film that we’re talking about here, it’s still a really low bar. 00:05:43.385 --> 00:05:47.430 Passing films still wouldn’t necessarily have substantial female roles 00:05:47.430 --> 00:05:50.976 it would make it harder for a movie to squeak by on a technicality. 00:05:50.976 --> 00:05:54.187 For example if we look at the Best Picture nominees from 2010, 00:05:54.187 --> 00:05:57.065 6 out of the 10 nominees might arguably get by 00:05:57.065 --> 00:06:01.047 but if we apply the new 60 second rule we find that half of them wouldn’t make the cut at all. 00:06:01.047 --> 00:06:06.620 The three 2010 films that DO pass the test with women who speak to each other for more then 60 seconds 00:06:06.620 --> 00:06:10.799 about something other then a man are all actually female centered films. 00:06:10.799 --> 00:06:13.957 And if you haven’t seen Winter’s Bone yet, put it at the top of your list. 00:06:13.957 --> 00:06:16.585 In addition to being beautifully shot and well acted, 00:06:16.585 --> 00:06:21.590 I highly recommend it for its complex portrayal of gender and poverty in rural America. 00:06:21.590 --> 00:06:25.135 Interestingly, even though True Grit is a female centered story, 00:06:25.135 --> 00:06:28.865 following the adventures of Mattie Ross struggling to get by in a man’s world, 00:06:28.865 --> 00:06:32.115 when we apply the 60 second rule the film doesn’t pass. 00:06:32.115 --> 00:06:36.527 In fact the only exchange she has with any other woman is with Mrs. Floyd the innkeeper 00:06:36.527 --> 00:06:39.778 and those incidental interactions total less than a minute. 00:06:39.778 --> 00:06:43.528 This style of film where the female lead inhabits an almost entirely male world, 00:06:43.528 --> 00:06:48.491 brings to mind the Smurfette Principle which I’ve discussed in my Tropes vs Women video series. 00:06:48.491 --> 00:06:51.953 Again, to be clear this test does not gauge the quality of a film, 00:06:51.953 --> 00:06:57.208 it doesn’t determine whether a film is feminist or not, and it doesn’t even determine whether a film is woman centered. 00:06:57.208 --> 00:06:59.085 Some pretty awful movies including ones that have 00:06:59.085 --> 00:07:03.840 stereotypical and/or sexist representations of women might pass the test with flying colours 00:07:03.840 --> 00:07:08.316 Where really well made films that I would highly recommend might not. 00:07:08.316 --> 00:07:12.286 The Bechdel test is best when used as a tool to evaluate Hollywood as an institution, 00:07:12.286 --> 00:07:15.444 it can be applied to pretty much any grouping of mainstream movies 00:07:15.444 --> 00:07:21.109 such as the Golden Globes nominees or the top grossing films of any given year, all with similar results. 00:07:21.109 --> 00:07:24.945 The test helps us identify the lack of relevant and meaningful female roles 00:07:24.945 --> 00:07:28.308 as a larger pattern in the film industry as a whole. 00:07:28.308 --> 00:07:32.255 The problem isn’t restricted to any individual movie, director or genre. 00:07:32.255 --> 00:07:34.788 Every once and awhile we get a film like Bridesmaids 00:07:34.788 --> 00:07:40.336 that depict women and women’s relationships with one another in a more genuine and less "chick flicky way” 00:07:40.336 --> 00:07:44.923 but this happens about as often as women are nominated for best director by the Academy. 00:07:44.923 --> 00:07:48.593 In response to the Bechdel Test, I’m often asked, well, what about the reverse? 00:07:48.593 --> 00:07:53.098 “Why isn’t there also a test to determine if two men talk to each other about something other then a woman”. 00:07:53.098 --> 00:07:56.434 The answer to that is simple, the test is meant to indicate a problem, 00:07:56.434 --> 00:08:00.438 and there isn’t a problem with a lack of men interacting with one another. 00:08:00.438 --> 00:08:04.159 The Bechdel test is useful because it can point out an institutional pattern 00:08:04.159 --> 00:08:08.153 and since there’s no problem with men and men’s stories being underrepresented in films, 00:08:08.153 --> 00:08:11.032 the reverse test is useless and irrelevant. 00:08:11.032 --> 00:08:13.865 Women aren’t the only ones marginalized in Hollywood movies, 00:08:13.865 --> 00:08:16.791 so one variation on the Bechdel Test that is actually useful 00:08:16.791 --> 00:08:20.645 is applying the test to the development and presence of characters of colour. 00:08:20.645 --> 00:08:25.498 Alaya Dawn Johnson adapted the test to ask if a movie has two or more people of colour in it, 00:08:25.498 --> 00:08:28.967 who talk to each other about something other than a white person. 00:08:28.967 --> 00:08:31.884 The percentage of films that pass this test is extremely small, 00:08:31.884 --> 00:08:36.272 even a movie like the Help which stars multiple named women of colour in prominent roles, 00:08:36.272 --> 00:08:42.313 passes by the narrowest of margins because characters are almost always talking to or about white people. 00:08:42.313 --> 00:08:46.609 This variation of the test exposes the fact that Hollywood still basically refuses 00:08:46.609 --> 00:08:50.989 to make movies for a general audience that focuses on the lives of people of colour, 00:08:50.989 --> 00:08:54.159 unless it also stars a sympathetic white character. 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:56.126 As Martha Southgate pointed out, 00:08:56.126 --> 00:09:00.537 “Implicit in The Help and a number of other popular works that deal with the civil rights era 00:09:00.537 --> 00:09:06.621 is the notion that a white character is somehow crucial or even necessary to this particular tale of black liberation.” 00:09:06.621 --> 00:09:10.216 So with that in mind, and as I saw on George Takei’s facebook page, 00:09:10.216 --> 00:09:14.632 this may be a slightly more appropriate title for the movie. 00:09:14.632 --> 00:09:20.310 So while it might be comforting to think that the number of important roles for women in Hollywood movies are slowly growing, 00:09:20.310 --> 00:09:22.937 the truth is they’re really not. 00:09:22.937 --> 00:09:28.860 Men are still primarily the studio executives, the writers, the directors and the major decision makers in the industry 00:09:28.860 --> 00:09:31.321 and they tell stories that they can relate to. 00:09:31.321 --> 00:09:36.041 Not surprisingly this results in most movies focusing on men and men's stories. 00:09:36.041 --> 00:09:41.126 So while it might make sense that one specific film like Moneyball is male dominated and male centered 00:09:41.126 --> 00:09:44.417 and they wouldn’t or couldn’t incorporate women as major characters, 00:09:44.417 --> 00:09:49.589 the problem is that the vast majority of movies made in Hollywood are also male centered and male dominated. 00:09:49.589 --> 00:09:52.967 It’s depressingly clear that Hollywood doesn’t prioritize roles for women 00:09:52.967 --> 00:09:55.428 and isn’t interested in telling women’s stories. 00:09:55.428 --> 00:10:01.101 The real solution here is for filmmakers and screen writers to focus more movies on women and women’s lives, 00:10:01.101 --> 00:10:03.440 that’s how we really solve this problem. 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:06.784 There are literally thousands of compelling, important and courageous 00:10:06.784 --> 00:10:09.710 women’s stories just waiting to be told on the big screen. 00:10:09.710 --> 00:10:12.987 When there are as many stories that center on women, as there are on men, 00:10:12.987 --> 00:10:15.700 then we won’t be have much use for the Bechdel Test anymore, 00:10:15.700 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