1 00:00:04,796 --> 00:00:08,342 It's been a few years since I’ve checked in with The Bechdel Test For Women in Movies 2 00:00:08,342 --> 00:00:10,469 so I thought I’d be a good time to look in on Hollywood 3 00:00:10,469 --> 00:00:14,640 and see if there's been any substantial improvement in women's representations on the big screen. 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:20,229 One way to do this is to apply the test to the films that have been nominated for best picture in the 2011 Academy Awards, 5 00:00:20,229 --> 00:00:23,398 since the Oscars are widely regarded as the “best of the best” 6 00:00:23,398 --> 00:00:25,817 at least as determined by the industry itself. 7 00:00:25,817 --> 00:00:30,155 But before I get to that, here’s a quick refresher on what the Bechdel Test is and how it works. 8 00:00:30,155 --> 00:00:34,064 The Bechdel Test is a very basic gauge to measure women's relevance to a film's plot 9 00:00:34,064 --> 00:00:36,850 and generally to assess female presence in Hollywood movies. 10 00:00:36,850 --> 00:00:41,517 It was popularized by Allison Bechdel in her comic Dykes to Watch Out For back in 1985. 11 00:00:41,517 --> 00:00:45,767 In order to pass the test a film just needs to fulfill these three, very simple, criteria: 12 00:00:45,767 --> 00:00:49,049 A movie has to have at least two women in it who have names, 13 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:50,480 who talk to each other, 14 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:52,431 about something besides a man. 15 00:00:52,431 --> 00:00:53,638 Pretty simple right? 16 00:00:53,638 --> 00:00:56,765 I mean this is really the absolute lowest that we could possibly set the bar 17 00:00:56,765 --> 00:00:59,268 for women’s meaningful presence in movies. 18 00:00:59,268 --> 00:01:01,228 Let’s remember that this was made as a bit of a joke 19 00:01:01,228 --> 00:01:05,649 to make fun of the fact that there are so few movies with significant female characters in them. 20 00:01:05,649 --> 00:01:08,068 The reason the test has become so important in recent years 21 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:12,447 is because it actually does highlight a serious and ongoing problem within the entertainment industry. 22 00:01:12,447 --> 00:01:15,867 So with that in mind, let’s take a look at the Academy Award best picture nominees 23 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:18,745 for 2011 and see how they measure up to the Bechdel Test. 24 00:01:18,745 --> 00:01:20,596 First up the Descendents. 25 00:01:20,596 --> 00:01:23,754 It’s a story of a father pulling his family through a crisis. 26 00:01:23,754 --> 00:01:27,129 The mother is basically fridged before the opening credits even finish rolling 27 00:01:27,129 --> 00:01:29,923 to provide the catalyst for the father figure’s growth. 28 00:01:29,923 --> 00:01:34,469 This film does pass the test because of a handful of brief interactions between female characters, 29 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:37,556 including between the two daughters, Alex and Scotty. 30 00:01:37,556 --> 00:01:42,894 Moneyball is a story about an American League baseball team centered around their general manager Billy Beane. 31 00:01:42,894 --> 00:01:47,566 It fails the test badly, not even having two female characters speak to each other at all. 32 00:01:47,566 --> 00:01:51,153 Even so it’s a surprisingly funny and captivating movie. 33 00:01:51,153 --> 00:01:54,323 Tree of Life is a more experimental film about a boy and his family. 34 00:01:54,323 --> 00:01:57,563 It fails the test because the only brief scene where two women talk, 35 00:01:57,563 --> 00:02:00,329 the conversation is about the death of the family's son. 36 00:02:00,329 --> 00:02:03,165 While it's true there's very little dialogue in the film as a whole, 37 00:02:03,165 --> 00:02:06,340 the father and the son do speak to each other on multiple occasions. 38 00:02:06,340 --> 00:02:11,262 Hugo is a whimsical film about an orphan boy trying to solve a mystery left by his father. 39 00:02:11,262 --> 00:02:14,134 And while there are two named female characters who speak to each other, 40 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:17,253 their conversation is always in relationship to a man 41 00:02:17,253 --> 00:02:21,391 except this one 5 second interaction that some might argue constitutes a pass. 42 00:02:21,391 --> 00:02:25,896 Isabelle: You were an actress? A real cinema actress, it’s impossibly romantic mama. 43 00:02:25,896 --> 00:02:30,609 Mama: It wasn’t like that, we weren’t movie stars like they have today. 44 00:02:30,609 --> 00:02:34,446 If while at the theater you drop your box of junior mints, and by the time you pick em up 45 00:02:34,446 --> 00:02:37,919 you’ve missed the one scene in the whole film where women actually talk to each other, 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,009 there’s something clearly wrong. 47 00:02:40,009 --> 00:02:43,167 Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close also fails the test. 48 00:02:43,167 --> 00:02:47,376 It follows the story of a boy dealing with the trauma of losing his father on 9/11. 49 00:02:47,376 --> 00:02:51,340 Two women never talk to each other about anything other than the boy. 50 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:55,752 In classic Woody Allan style, Midnight in Paris is about a man struggling to discover himself 51 00:02:55,752 --> 00:02:58,011 and while there’s a handful of women in the picture, 52 00:02:58,011 --> 00:03:01,848 they never really discuss anything other than men and men's influence on their lives. 53 00:03:01,848 --> 00:03:05,760 Some critics have argued that this scene between Inez and her mother constitutes a pass. 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,102 Helen: Come look at these Inez. Wouldn’t these be charming in a Malibu beach house? 55 00:03:10,102 --> 00:03:11,286 Inez: oh 56 00:03:11,286 --> 00:03:12,493 Helen: Combien monsieur? 57 00:03:12,493 --> 00:03:14,119 Shop Owner: dix-huit mille 58 00:03:14,119 --> 00:03:15,280 Helen : Merci 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,154 Inez : What is that? 60 00:03:16,154 --> 00:03:17,669 Helen: They’re a steal at 18,000 dollars. 61 00:03:17,669 --> 00:03:20,575 Gil: 18,000 dollars for this!? 62 00:03:20,575 --> 00:03:21,828 Helen: Oh wait it’s euros… 63 00:03:21,828 --> 00:03:26,123 But as you’ll notice Owen Wilson’s character and the shop keeper are also involved in the interaction. 64 00:03:26,123 --> 00:03:27,749 So I’d say it fails. 65 00:03:27,749 --> 00:03:30,794 But I'll come back to this one line question later in the video 66 00:03:30,794 --> 00:03:32,834 What’s even more embarrassing about this film 67 00:03:32,834 --> 00:03:37,092 is that one of the most important historical figures that Gil interacts with is Gertrude Stein. 68 00:03:37,092 --> 00:03:39,010 For those of you who aren’t familiar with her, 69 00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:42,772 Stein is one of the most famous writers and lesbians in American history, 70 00:03:42,772 --> 00:03:47,727 and Woody Allan has the nerve to not have her speak to another female character in the entire film. 71 00:03:47,727 --> 00:03:49,980 War Horse is a story about a boy and his horse. 72 00:03:49,980 --> 00:03:51,619 It fails. 73 00:03:51,619 --> 00:03:53,316 So moving on. 74 00:03:53,316 --> 00:03:56,903 The Help is a woman centered story with a large female cast, 75 00:03:56,903 --> 00:03:58,780 there’s no doubt that this film passes the test. 76 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:03,285 While the film is deeply problematic when it comes to portraying issues of racism in America, 77 00:04:03,285 --> 00:04:07,831 both Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer give incredible and moving performances. 78 00:04:07,831 --> 00:04:11,426 Finally, we have the The Artist, which it’s true, is a silent film. 79 00:04:11,426 --> 00:04:16,418 So you might be asking how we do apply the Bechdel Test to a film without any spoken dialogue? 80 00:04:16,418 --> 00:04:20,510 Well in classic Silent movie style characters do communicate with each other 81 00:04:20,510 --> 00:04:22,177 via title cards, 82 00:04:22,177 --> 00:04:23,221 mouthing words, 83 00:04:23,221 --> 00:04:26,850 facial expressions, physical gestures and pantomime. 84 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:30,896 So for this one I’ll accept any non-verbal communication between two women 85 00:04:30,896 --> 00:04:34,019 that has any significance to the plot that’s not about a man. 86 00:04:34,019 --> 00:04:36,898 And amazingly… it still fails. 87 00:04:36,898 --> 00:04:41,656 It looks like out of the 9 best picture nominees in 2011 only 2 clearly pass the bechdel test, 88 00:04:41,656 --> 00:04:44,451 while 2 others are questionable about one line. 89 00:04:44,451 --> 00:04:48,288 And notably only one film nominated is female centered. 90 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:50,081 Coming back to Hugo and Midnight in Paris, 91 00:04:50,081 --> 00:04:54,917 unfortunately, discussions and debates surrounding the Bechdel test often descend into quibbling over whether 92 00:04:54,917 --> 00:04:59,514 one brief and questionable exchange makes a movie pass the test or not. 93 00:04:59,514 --> 00:05:02,254 It’s not really necessary to get bogged down in the minutia 94 00:05:02,254 --> 00:05:05,305 of whether one 10 second scene constitutes “talking to each other”. 95 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:07,682 If there’s really that much of a debate about this point, 96 00:05:07,682 --> 00:05:12,169 then it’s a pretty good indicator that there’s a problem with women’s representation in the movie. 97 00:05:12,169 --> 00:05:13,772 So, in the spirit of the Bechdel test, 98 00:05:13,772 --> 00:05:16,836 I'd like to respectfully propose adding a small addendum: 99 00:05:16,836 --> 00:05:19,158 A film has to have two named women who speak to each other 100 00:05:19,158 --> 00:05:23,082 for longer than 60 seconds about something besides a man. 101 00:05:23,082 --> 00:05:25,335 This new 60 second rule would help to clarify the test 102 00:05:25,335 --> 00:05:28,539 and resolve some of the quibbles over one or two lines 103 00:05:28,539 --> 00:05:31,883 and if two women do speak to each other for more then 60 seconds 104 00:05:31,883 --> 00:05:35,544 there’s a slightly better chance that the dialogue will have some relevance to the plot, 105 00:05:35,544 --> 00:05:37,170 maybe. 106 00:05:37,170 --> 00:05:43,385 I mean, its only 1 minute out of a 90 or 120 minute film that we’re talking about here, it’s still a really low bar. 107 00:05:43,385 --> 00:05:47,430 Passing films still wouldn’t necessarily have substantial female roles 108 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:50,976 it would make it harder for a movie to squeak by on a technicality. 109 00:05:50,976 --> 00:05:54,187 For example if we look at the Best Picture nominees from 2010, 110 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:57,065 6 out of the 10 nominees might arguably get by 111 00:05:57,065 --> 00:06:01,047 but if we apply the new 60 second rule we find that half of them wouldn’t make the cut at all. 112 00:06:01,047 --> 00:06:06,620 The three 2010 films that DO pass the test with women who speak to each other for more then 60 seconds 113 00:06:06,620 --> 00:06:10,799 about something other then a man are all actually female centered films. 114 00:06:10,799 --> 00:06:13,957 And if you haven’t seen Winter’s Bone yet, put it at the top of your list. 115 00:06:13,957 --> 00:06:16,585 In addition to being beautifully shot and well acted, 116 00:06:16,585 --> 00:06:21,590 I highly recommend it for its complex portrayal of gender and poverty in rural America. 117 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:25,135 Interestingly, even though True Grit is a female centered story, 118 00:06:25,135 --> 00:06:28,865 following the adventures of Mattie Ross struggling to get by in a man’s world, 119 00:06:28,865 --> 00:06:32,115 when we apply the 60 second rule the film doesn’t pass. 120 00:06:32,115 --> 00:06:36,527 In fact the only exchange she has with any other woman is with Mrs. Floyd the innkeeper 121 00:06:36,527 --> 00:06:39,778 and those incidental interactions total less than a minute. 122 00:06:39,778 --> 00:06:43,528 This style of film where the female lead inhabits an almost entirely male world, 123 00:06:43,528 --> 00:06:48,491 brings to mind the Smurfette Principle which I’ve discussed in my Tropes vs Women video series. 124 00:06:48,491 --> 00:06:51,953 Again, to be clear this test does not gauge the quality of a film, 125 00:06:51,953 --> 00:06:57,208 it doesn’t determine whether a film is feminist or not, and it doesn’t even determine whether a film is woman centered. 126 00:06:57,208 --> 00:06:59,085 Some pretty awful movies including ones that have 127 00:06:59,085 --> 00:07:03,840 stereotypical and/or sexist representations of women might pass the test with flying colours 128 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:08,316 Where really well made films that I would highly recommend might not. 129 00:07:08,316 --> 00:07:12,286 The Bechdel test is best when used as a tool to evaluate Hollywood as an institution, 130 00:07:12,286 --> 00:07:15,444 it can be applied to pretty much any grouping of mainstream movies 131 00:07:15,444 --> 00:07:21,109 such as the Golden Globes nominees or the top grossing films of any given year, all with similar results. 132 00:07:21,109 --> 00:07:24,945 The test helps us identify the lack of relevant and meaningful female roles 133 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:28,308 as a larger pattern in the film industry as a whole. 134 00:07:28,308 --> 00:07:32,255 The problem isn’t restricted to any individual movie, director or genre. 135 00:07:32,255 --> 00:07:34,788 Every once and awhile we get a film like Bridesmaids 136 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:40,336 that depict women and women’s relationships with one another in a more genuine and less "chick flicky way” 137 00:07:40,336 --> 00:07:44,923 but this happens about as often as women are nominated for best director by the Academy. 138 00:07:44,923 --> 00:07:48,593 In response to the Bechdel Test, I’m often asked, well, what about the reverse? 139 00:07:48,593 --> 00:07:53,098 “Why isn’t there also a test to determine if two men talk to each other about something other then a woman”. 140 00:07:53,098 --> 00:07:56,434 The answer to that is simple, the test is meant to indicate a problem, 141 00:07:56,434 --> 00:08:00,438 and there isn’t a problem with a lack of men interacting with one another. 142 00:08:00,438 --> 00:08:04,159 The Bechdel test is useful because it can point out an institutional pattern 143 00:08:04,159 --> 00:08:08,153 and since there’s no problem with men and men’s stories being underrepresented in films, 144 00:08:08,153 --> 00:08:11,032 the reverse test is useless and irrelevant. 145 00:08:11,032 --> 00:08:13,865 Women aren’t the only ones marginalized in Hollywood movies, 146 00:08:13,865 --> 00:08:16,791 so one variation on the Bechdel Test that is actually useful 147 00:08:16,791 --> 00:08:20,645 is applying the test to the development and presence of characters of colour. 148 00:08:20,645 --> 00:08:25,498 Alaya Dawn Johnson adapted the test to ask if a movie has two or more people of colour in it, 149 00:08:25,498 --> 00:08:28,967 who talk to each other about something other than a white person. 150 00:08:28,967 --> 00:08:31,884 The percentage of films that pass this test is extremely small, 151 00:08:31,884 --> 00:08:36,272 even a movie like the Help which stars multiple named women of colour in prominent roles, 152 00:08:36,272 --> 00:08:42,313 passes by the narrowest of margins because characters are almost always talking to or about white people. 153 00:08:42,313 --> 00:08:46,609 This variation of the test exposes the fact that Hollywood still basically refuses 154 00:08:46,609 --> 00:08:50,989 to make movies for a general audience that focuses on the lives of people of colour, 155 00:08:50,989 --> 00:08:54,159 unless it also stars a sympathetic white character. 156 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:56,126 As Martha Southgate pointed out, 157 00:08:56,126 --> 00:09:00,537 “Implicit in The Help and a number of other popular works that deal with the civil rights era 158 00:09:00,537 --> 00:09:06,621 is the notion that a white character is somehow crucial or even necessary to this particular tale of black liberation.” 159 00:09:06,621 --> 00:09:10,216 So with that in mind, and as I saw on George Takei’s facebook page, 160 00:09:10,216 --> 00:09:14,632 this may be a slightly more appropriate title for the movie. 161 00:09:14,632 --> 00:09:20,310 So while it might be comforting to think that the number of important roles for women in Hollywood movies are slowly growing, 162 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:22,937 the truth is they’re really not. 163 00:09:22,937 --> 00:09:28,860 Men are still primarily the studio executives, the writers, the directors and the major decision makers in the industry 164 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:31,321 and they tell stories that they can relate to. 165 00:09:31,321 --> 00:09:36,041 Not surprisingly this results in most movies focusing on men and men's stories. 166 00:09:36,041 --> 00:09:41,126 So while it might make sense that one specific film like Moneyball is male dominated and male centered 167 00:09:41,126 --> 00:09:44,417 and they wouldn’t or couldn’t incorporate women as major characters, 168 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:49,589 the problem is that the vast majority of movies made in Hollywood are also male centered and male dominated. 169 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:52,967 It’s depressingly clear that Hollywood doesn’t prioritize roles for women 170 00:09:52,967 --> 00:09:55,428 and isn’t interested in telling women’s stories. 171 00:09:55,428 --> 00:10:01,101 The real solution here is for filmmakers and screen writers to focus more movies on women and women’s lives, 172 00:10:01,101 --> 00:10:03,440 that’s how we really solve this problem. 173 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,784 There are literally thousands of compelling, important and courageous 174 00:10:06,784 --> 00:10:09,710 women’s stories just waiting to be told on the big screen. 175 00:10:09,710 --> 00:10:12,987 When there are as many stories that center on women, as there are on men, 176 00:10:12,987 --> 00:10:15,700 then we won’t be have much use for the Bechdel Test anymore, 177 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:20,721 but sadly it seems, that’s still a long ways away. 178 00:10:20,721 --> 00:10:25,453 Feminist Frequency videos are always advertisement free, so I need your help to keep going. 179 00:10:25,453 --> 00:10:29,784 Please visit feministfrequency.com/donate