[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.90,0:00:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Arlene Shechet: Pentimento in Paper] Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.80,0:00:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dieu Donné Paper Studio, New York City] Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.94,0:00:26.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SHECHET] I have this impulse to put a whole\Nblock of color on the wood. Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.04,0:00:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ASSISTANT] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.42,0:00:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SHECHET] The thing that's unseen is sometimes\Nway more interesting Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.05,0:00:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than what people want you to see. Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.14,0:01:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like looking at a construction site-- Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.89,0:01:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are the things you don't see. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.88,0:01:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are the bones. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.81,0:01:07.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can be beautiful. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.88,0:01:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of these molds have been made in my studio\Nupstate. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.19,0:01:24.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what they are is they're molds of things\Nthat have happened in my studio Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.11,0:01:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I'm working with the clay. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.95,0:01:31.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, here. These are just my fingers in the\Nclay. Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.58,0:01:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I happened to have a brick that had glaze\Non it, Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.64,0:01:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this actually the surface of glaze. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.65,0:01:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, that is the fire brick. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.96,0:01:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of the paper pieces actually have a record\Nof this clay process. Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.02,0:01:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the end of the day, I'll say, Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.04,0:01:59.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, this looks really scenic," Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.85,0:02:03.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, "I like that way that tool makes that\Nmark." Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.51,0:02:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they're actually pentimenti of my sculpture-making\Nprocess. Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.10,0:02:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really love the idea of color and form being\None thing. Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.68,0:02:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not that I've painted on the paper, Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.98,0:02:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's that the color is the paper Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.61,0:02:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it goes pretty deep into that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.00,0:02:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[SHECHET] We could do yellow mush. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.94,0:02:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[ASSISTANT] This, with a little yellow in\Nit. Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.48,0:02:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[SHECHET] Or just... Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.44,0:02:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[ASSISTANT] Or just yellow. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.50,0:02:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[SHECHET] ...that bright... Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.33,0:02:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SHECHET] In that way, it's very similar to\Nworking with the clay, Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.45,0:02:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the glaze and the clay become one thing-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.30,0:02:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one structure--a surface and form. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.42,0:03:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[SHECHET] So fun. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.80,0:03:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SHECHET] The thing about working with paper\Nis the immediacy of that entire process. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.90,0:03:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love--I love--seeing the thing and responding. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.11,0:03:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--I think it throws it off a little, so... Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.98,0:03:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SHECHET] My assistants say that I make decisions\Nreally quicky. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.52,0:03:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Chelsea, I think we should just press the\Ncotton on this. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.32,0:03:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love that feeling, Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.26,0:03:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for me, maybe that's being in the zone, Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.92,0:03:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, "Oh, let's let it rip." Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.43,0:03:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, just take this chance because there's\Nanother one right over there. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.45,0:03:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why I work on five or six pieces at\Nthe same time. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.25,0:03:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--I still would like to see if we can get\Nsome of that mojo going Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.27,0:03:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--that was happening with this, Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.49,0:04:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--of making the sculpture and tearing away. Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.16,0:04:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Here, check it out. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.98,0:04:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always talk about this like it's an athletic\Nevent Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.84,0:04:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's just, like, really thinking about\Nit a lot the day before. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.00,0:04:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's basically a month of preparation before\Ncoming in. Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.38,0:04:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--24-karat gold! Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.24,0:04:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's expensive to do this. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.86,0:04:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Very expensive! Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.87,0:04:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we really need to consolidate our time\Nand use it. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.76,0:04:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fun of it is that you were prepared, but\Nthen you don't know anything. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.26,0:04:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Oh, and then we have some holes. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.64,0:04:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Natural holes. Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.52,0:04:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes, the work that we do on a given\Nlayer never shows up. Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.50,0:04:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You never know it's there. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.39,0:05:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although, I believe in the energy of it underneath. Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.36,0:05:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a certain physicality to it that is\Nexciting to me. Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.36,0:05:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[SHECHET] It might be better this way. Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.16,0:05:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[ASSISTANT] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.36,0:05:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[SHECHET] The terracotta is beautiful! Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.42,0:05:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One other way that this is similar to working\Nin ceramics Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.67,0:05:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it never looks as good as it looks\Nwhen it's wet. Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.26,0:05:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This color is so good, Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.48,0:05:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you mix it, and you love it, Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.02,0:05:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it dries, and it's lighter. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.64,0:06:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm always pining for is the wet. Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.25,0:06:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's closer to the aliveness of the actual\Nexperience. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.40,0:06:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in ceramics, you make it, it's wet, you\Nlove it; Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.12,0:06:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's dry, it looks horrible. Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.72,0:06:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You fire the first firing, it looks horrible. Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.98,0:06:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you have to bring it back to life\Nwith the glaze. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.84,0:06:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Institute of Contemporary Art, Boston] Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.12,0:06:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got a letter saying, "Show up here and we'll\Nteach you how to make paper." Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.89,0:06:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a situation. Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.76,0:06:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't have any answers, it just provides\Na forum. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.30,0:06:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It provides a way to create that lateral expansion\Nof the practice Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.53,0:06:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without knowing where it's going to go-- Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.10,0:06:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm hungry for that. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.61,0:07:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm in awe of people who do the same thing\Nfor their whole lives; Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.96,0:07:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, it would not fit, in any way, my restlessness Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.90,0:07:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my desire to investigate on a much broader\Nscale.