[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.17,0:00:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We begin with new information tonight about just how extensively Canada is spying for the United States. Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.75,0:00:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How Canada has even gone so far as to set up secret spy posts Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.08,0:00:15.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the world for the National Security Agency. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.03,0:00:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The explosive revelations are contained in a document leaked by Edward Snowden. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.32,0:00:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it reveals this Canadian co-operation has been going on for decades. Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.75,0:00:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our Greg Weston has the exclusive details from Ottawa tonight. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.26,0:00:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Greg? Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.50,0:00:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wendy, most people probably don't think of Canada as a world player in espionage. Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.67,0:00:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But according to this American document, marked 'Top Secret', Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.98,0:00:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's exactly what the US is counting on. Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.08,0:00:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Canada is not only spying around the world, Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.89,0:00:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it often does so at the request of the US National Security Agency. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.24,0:00:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It essentially means it is a close to a working relationship with the NSA as it can possible have. Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.90,0:00:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word 'close' does not begin to tell this story. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.96,0:01:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The secret document reveals Canada and the US have been running joint spying operations Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.12,0:01:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in about 20 countries the NSA calls 'high priority'. Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.09,0:01:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of those countries are Canada's own trading partners. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.30,0:01:16.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A super-secretive agency called the Communications Security Establishment Canada, Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.76,0:01:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or CSEC, Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.22,0:01:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gathers intelligence by intercepting phone calls and hacking into data systems. Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.09,0:01:27.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CSEC has been eavesdropping with the NSA for more than 60 years. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.00,0:01:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, for the first time, this document reveals just how deep and far and wide that relationship has become. Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.92,0:01:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The two agencies even swap personnel. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.80,0:01:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to the secret memo... Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.26,0:01:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CSEC has even... Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.16,0:01:55.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this should probably be read as a reference to monitoring sites, Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.67,0:01:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developed largely in embassies and councillor missions abroad. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.96,0:02:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the document goes on. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.75,0:02:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CSEC runs operations in places the NSA can't. Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.18,0:02:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And under the cover of those relationships that Canada enjoys, and the United States doesn't, Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.36,0:02:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guess what you can conduct. Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.92,0:02:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These secret surveillance or collection efforts. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.21,0:02:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Greg) Wark has a different take. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.83,0:02:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I still think we trade on a degree of an international brand, Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.25,0:02:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an innocent partner in the international sphere. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.76,0:02:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's not that much known really about Canadian intelligence, Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.92,0:02:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in that sense, Canadian operations might escape at least the same degree of notice and surveillance Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.14,0:02:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the operations of the United States or Britain in certain foreign countries would bound to attract. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.70,0:02:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Canada has already been caught. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.76,0:02:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I cannot comment on national security operations... Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.40,0:03:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was Harper in October, after another Snowden document revealed that CSEC was spying on Brazil. Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.69,0:03:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That raised howls of protest in that country. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.79,0:03:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here, there were questions about who's minding the spies. Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.38,0:03:13.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The latest revelations of Canada's global espionage operations are bound to fuel that debate, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.29,0:03:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this former NSA executive says that's a good thing. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.38,0:03:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot have this amount of secret operations outside the purview of proper oversight, Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.60,0:03:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which there's little or none of that, even within Canada. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.44,0:03:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wendy, as revealing as this document surely is, it is also packed with operational details, Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.82,0:03:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that CBC News has decided it will not make public. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.66,0:03:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there any reaction to this? Big story, Greg. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.13,0:03:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well Wendy, we heard from both governments. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.56,0:03:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Canada's defence minister, Rob Nicholson, who is responsible for CSEC, Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.42,0:03:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pointed out the agency is subject to review by an independent commissioner. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.21,0:03:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the United States, a spokesman for the government there, said, Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.71,0:04:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"NSA collects intelligence, the same as every other nation." Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.34,0:04:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanks so much, Greg. Greg Weston tonight in Ottawa.