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>> Nermin Selimic: During the Webinar[br]today, we will have several presenters.

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It will be Robert Felgar,[br]the CEO of RAZ Mobility.

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It will be myself, Nermin Selimic,[br]I'm the COO at RAZ Mobility.

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And I am especially glad [br]to have Jerry Jicha, on our call,

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who is the accessibility specialist[br]at RAZ Mobility

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and who will be covering[br]a significant part of the demo today,

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in particular about Android accessibility[br]for blind users.

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I would like to extend my thanks to[br]two people

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who are making this call possible[br]on the support side.

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It is Gayl Hardeman,

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who is the interpreter[br]and is providing the CART services,

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and it is also Emil, one of our technical[br]support specialists from RAZ Mobility,

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who is staying in the background

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and making sure that all the technology[br]is running as smooth as possible.

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I would like to mention, at any time,[br]please feel free to interrupt,

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either for questions – although[br]we will have two Q&A sessions

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throughout the Webinar – but also,[br]if you believe that your questions

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are extremely relevant and important[br]to be asked at that moment,

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please feel free to interrupt.

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Or, in case there are[br]major technical difficulties

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and you are not able[br]to participate in the Webinar

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so that we can address that[br]as well as possible.

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Quick introduction about RAZ Mobility.

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RAZ Mobility was founded in 2015[br]to offer

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States equipment and distribution programs[br]and other government agencies,

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as well as senior[br]and assisted living providers,

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schools, nonprofit organizations[br]and for-profit companies,

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as well as consumers, the very latest[br]in mobile assistive technology.

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We at RAZ Mobility view ourselves[br]as an agent for change

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dedicated to ensuring that its customers

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benefit from the dramatic progress[br]and evolution in mobile technology.

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And many of you were able to witness,[br]especially over the last five years,

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and overall, over the last ten years,[br]with the advent of mobile technology,

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many, many aspects of assistive technology[br]have changed significantly

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and have allowed for a significant[br]improvement in assistive technology

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and have added many components that[br]were unthinkable just several years ago.

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And that's exactly our focus[br]at RAZ Mobility.

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We are searching for unique solutions[br]and cutting edge solutions.

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Sometimes it is purely the device[br]which is exceptional and different.

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Many times, it is also a combination[br]of the device and the software,

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or simply a third-party solution.

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We have not limited ourselves to work[br]only with the specific providers

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or hardware manufacturers but[br]are rather interacting with providers

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around the globe[br]in order to accomplish this.

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And, many of our solutions[br]are provided by companies

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from the United States,[br]from Europe,

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and from other parts of the world.

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The preferred approach of RAZ Mobility [br]is via making these solutions available

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as Android's operating system[br]mobile devices, smartphones and tablets.

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And we are making[br]these solutions available

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in combination[br]with some third-party applications.

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Android and smartphones and tablets[br]differ a little bit

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compared to other technology[br]in the marketplace.

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In particular,[br]if we are talking about iOS,

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and it is simply that there are[br]two dominant operating systems,

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one being iOS, and the other one Android.

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iOS being purely available[br]on Apple devices

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and on the other hand, we have Android[br]that is an open-source operating system,

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and it is available to[br]any hardware manufacturers

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who are interested in using Android[br]as the operating system.

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Hence, you know,[br]all of you have for sure noticed

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that devices using[br]the Android operating systems

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are available from manufacturers[br]such as LG, Samsung, Motorola,

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and so on, and so on.

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So at this time,[br]Robert joins the Webinar as well,

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and I am here on video,[br]so I will ask Robert to

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-- it will be easier[br]if you can join us on this side.

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We will just need to ask Robert[br]to grab a chair.

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Here you are, we'll be sharing this

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I hope that the video experience[br]will be optimal.

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So moving to the next section,

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and that is actually about Android[br]smartphones and tablets,

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so what is the difference between[br]the Android operating system and iOS?

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The Android operating system[br]has developed over the years

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as the most popular operating system[br]for all mobile devices,

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including tablets and smartphones;

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in particular,[br]if you are talking about tablets,

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it has been the best-selling[br]operating system for tablets since 2013.

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And for smartphones, it is also dominant[br]by any metrics.

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So to illustrate several comparisons[br]and several data points,

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if you are looking in particular[br]in the United States

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and if you are looking at market share[br]as of early 2016,

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nearly 60% of sold devices in early 2016[br]were devices using

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the Android operating system.

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Close to 40% were iOS, so Apple devices.

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And the very, very minimum market share[br]of other operating systems

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that are still out there,[br]such as Blackberry and Windows.

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So there is a clear trend over the time

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that more and more consumers[br]are selecting Android devices,

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and also if you are looking[br]into the overall

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-- (Noise interference) –[br]installed base

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I think someone is -- someone didn't mute[br]his or her phone, so if you can please --

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and if you are looking

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into the overall base[br]of installed devices

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or devices[br]that are in the hands of consumers,

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we have 52% running on Android[br]in the United States

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and 43.5% are running on iOS,[br]as of 2016.

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So what are[br]the Android operating system advantages?

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So Robert, if you maybe would like[br]to mention a couple of things about that.

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>> Robert Felgar: Well I think that[br]the major advantage

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of the Android operating system,[br]first of all, is its openness.

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So there's a lot more flexibility[br]for third-party applications on Android

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than compared to iOS, and you'll see that[br]in some of the third-party apps

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that we will demonstrate to everyone[br]later in the presentation.

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You can also have custom rounds -- (check)

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>> Nermin Selimic: I think we might[br]have an issue here

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that we didn't hear you well.[br](Adjusting audio.)

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>> Robert Felgar: The major advantage,[br]I think, of the Android operating system

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compared to iOS is its openness.

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So the -- what this does is, it allows[br]third-party application developers

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to develop applications[br]which are not available on the iOS side.

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And you will see some of that.

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We'lll see an example of that[br]later on in the presentation

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when we show you, we'll see a solution[br]for people with low vision.

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You'll also see that on the Android side,[br]you could develop custom ROMs.

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There are widgets,[br]you've got a higher-res screen,

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and there is also multi-window support[br]which is unique to Android.

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And in some devices like the Moto Z Play,

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there is much longer battery life[br]as compared to the iPhone, for example.

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>> Nermin Selimic: So that being said,[br]this, you know --

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we are moving really to the most important[br]part of today's Webinar,

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and these are the specifics[br]of the Android accessibility and --

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resulting in the Android advantage.

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So Robert, would you like[br]to cover this part?

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>> Jerry Jicha (check): Sure.

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There are some significant advantages[br]and some great applications

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that are a part[br]of the Android operating system.

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These are functionalities that are[br]native to the operating system.

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They are not third-party applications.

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They are in your settings in most cases,[br]or on other parts of the devices.

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An example is TalkBack,[br]similar to Voiceover,

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which all of you know and[br]we'll be demonstrating that in detail.

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You can turn on and off captions[br]in your accessibility settings.

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There is a great way[br]to increase font size.

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>> (check) Similar to iOS, but with[br]some differences on the Android side,

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you can actually,[br]when you increase your font size,

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you can actually increase everything[br]on your screen, not just font size.

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So the size of the icons, the size[br]of the notifications, et cetera.

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You've got OK Google, similar to Siri,

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which some people find better[br]on the Android side than the iOS side,

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although that is fairly personal.

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Text to speech, magnification gestures[br]which you initiate through triple passing,

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Color inversion for people who have[br]low vision.

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And mono audio also is for people[br]who have issues

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hearing out a particular ear,[br]or color correction.

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>> Nermin Selimic: It is important[br]to mention that

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when you are talking about[br]the Android advantage,

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that obviously the fact that there are[br]multiple manufacturers

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of mobile phones and tablets,

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it does provide to consumers[br]better device options.

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Whereas, if you are looking[br]on the Apple side, it is more

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-- you can get from the Android side[br]as well as on the iOS side,

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you can get a Cadillac solution[br]a Cadillac side solution.

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However, on the Apple side,[br]it is purely --

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you can purchase only a Cadillac.

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On the Android side,[br]options are really significant.

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There are entry-level models.

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There are great mid-range models[br]of smartphones and tablets,

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as well as top of the range.

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And all of that allows also[br]for the significant competition

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in the marketplace,

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and as consumers, we always know,[br]as long as there is competition,

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typically consumers benefit from that.

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So that being said, I would like to[br]just provide a brief introduction.

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The intention today was not[br]to talk about hardware.

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However, during the demo,

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as we are presenting[br]the accessibility options,

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the built-in accessibility features

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as well as the third-party[br]accessibility application,

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we will be using a specific Android phone.

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In this case, it will be[br]the Motorola Moto Z Play.

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This is a truly great smartphone[br]that was introduced to the marketplace

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in 2016, I believe;[br]to be exact, in October of 2016.

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So you are looking[br]into the Android space

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which is truly almost[br]the top of the range device that offers

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an exceptional high-quality display,[br]in 5.5 inch size, so a big display,

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as big as it can get on a smartphone.

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It is running on the newest Android[br]operating system,

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Android 7, called Nougat.

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It does include an exceptional camera,[br]very strong processor

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and there are two more items[br]that are very, very specific,

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and very beneficial if you are talking[br]about the smartphone.

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And one of them is[br]the very powerful battery.

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So with this smartphone, even users[br]who have significant usage

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throughout the day, they can use the phone[br]easily for more than 50 hours,

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and that's not typical[br]for many smartphones as we know.

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And the other unique option is really

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that this phone is the first[br]modular phone in the world.

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Actually, you can take the back[br]off very easily,

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it’s just attached by a magnet.

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And there are some additional,[br]as Motoracall them, Moto Mods,

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which are actually gadgets

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one of them, we have seen, it is also very[br]popular among hard-of-hearing users,

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it is actually a loud speaker that is[br]an additional 80 decibel speaker.

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And there are additional[br]Moto Mods, such as

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you know, almost a professional camera,[br]additional batteries,

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smartphone holders for the car,[br]I believe as well.

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So it makes this phone[br]really very, very attractive

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and it is significantly more affordable[br]than the top of the range

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iPhone or Samsung phones[br]that are out there.

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So that is the phone that we will be[br]using during the demos today.

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And one more very interesting phone[br]from Motorola

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that I would like just to mention briefly[br]is the newest Motorola phone.

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It is the Moto G5 Plus, that was just[br]released in April.

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So it is, I would say, most likely, the[br]best midrange phone in the marketplace.

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So it is -- it uses (check) for a fact[br]the same processor as the Motor Z play.

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It has many of the great features[br]including a 5.2 inch display.

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>> Robert Felgar: Two quick points[br]about the Moto Z Play as well.

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First of all it's unlocked,[br]which is very nice,

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this GSM also can work with either AT&T[br]or T-Mobile

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or with any of their .... (check)

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Also, with respect to the speaker,[br]the Moto Mod speaker,

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it also works with TalkBack.

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So to the extent that your consumer[br]is hard of hearing,

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you can put that speaker[br]on the back of the device

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and it will significantly amplify

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the TalkBack sound[br]that comes from the device.

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>> Nermin Selimic: OK, so we are moving[br]to the next section,

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and again, just as a reminder:

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I believe we do have some participants[br]who are not on mute.

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So we are moving to the next part[br]of our Webinar today,

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and that is actually[br]the accessibility for blind users.

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As mentioned, I am extremely glad[br]to have Jerry on our team,

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who is[br]one of our accessibility specialists.

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So Jerry will be covering[br]this part of the Webinar today,

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including a demo of Android TalkBack

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and his experience with[br]the accessibility feature for blind users.

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This part, this demo, will be done[br]in the following fashion.

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So we will be sharing video[br]with all of you.

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So we will[br]-- you will have the opportunity --

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I see here a request[br]for a bigger CART window,

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so I just apologize[br]for the short interruption.

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We will increase the size[br]of the CART window,

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and we have increased also the font size.

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So I hope that that is working out[br]for everyone.

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So we will be adding two more components[br]now to the screen-sharing,

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and you will be able to see Jerry on video.

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That is one part.

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And the other part[br]that is very significant,

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so as Jerry is running the demo[br]on the Moto Z Play phone using TalkBack,

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we will be sharing with you[br]the exact screen of Jerry's smartphone.

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So please allow us[br]for just a couple of minutes

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in order to make sure[br]that the setup is okay

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and that everyone has[br]the optimal experience.

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>> Jerry, are you ready?[br]>> Yes, I'm here. I'm ready.

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>> Okay. Just we are not seeing[br]your video,

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so we need to confirm that.

0:20:40.866,0:20:43.418
Emil, can you please check Jerry's video?

0:21:16.617,0:21:18.500
Just a little bit of patience

0:21:19.321,0:21:25.093
Trying to make sure that everyone[br]is able to see Jerry.

0:21:25.099,0:21:29.440
So I will mute myself and, Jerry,[br]if you can please start talking,

0:21:29.448,0:21:32.640
and that should trigger[br]your video streaming.

0:21:33.634,0:21:36.631
>> Jerry Jicha: Oh that's .... (check)[br]Good afternoon, everyone.

0:21:36.631,0:21:38.807
My name here is Jerry Jicha

0:21:38.807,0:21:42.099
I do go by "Jerry."[br]I prefer "Jerry," actually.

0:21:43.372,0:21:52.433
I have been using Android since 2011,[br]so I have seen a lot of the, you know,

0:21:52.694,0:21:55.635
enhancements[br]that have come through to TalkBack,

0:21:56.166,0:21:59.102
including the very latest version[br]in TalkBack,

0:21:59.648,0:22:06.640
some of the benefits[br]that have been put into TalkBack itself,

0:22:06.640,0:22:10.902
some of which are through the fact

0:22:10.902,0:22:15.706
that some of us who help[br]with beta testing offer input,

0:22:15.706,0:22:19.234
and Google does listen,

0:22:19.736,0:22:25.628
and some of the things[br]we've suggested or asked for

0:22:25.628,0:22:27.509
have actually been put into place.

0:22:28.569,0:22:31.225
>> Nermin Selimic: Jerry, listen[br]I apologize for interrupting.

0:22:31.406,0:22:39.751
So we lost you on video,[br]so you will need to reenter the PIN.

0:23:10.863,0:23:17.767
So, Jerry, the PIN is £1022£[br]>> Jerry Jicha: Okay.

0:23:17.782,0:23:20.050
It's telling me that the pin is invalid.

0:23:22.516,0:23:28.776
>> Nermin Selimic: DId you try the [br]£1022£?

0:23:29.746,0:23:33.181
>> Jerry Jicha: That's not the one[br]he gave me before but I can try that.

0:23:34.361,0:23:36.422
>> Nermin Selimic: Yes,[br]please try this one.

0:23:46.643,0:23:49.058
>> Jerry Jicha: Okay, it said "Thank you".

0:23:50.854,0:23:54.886
>> Nermin Selimic: Okay, So yes,[br]we can see you now. Excellent.

0:22:40.277,0:22:44.139
>> Jerry Jicha: Okay, standby.[br]>> Nermin Selimic: Okay.[br]

0:23:55.428,0:23:57.212
>> Jerry Jicha: There we go.

0:23:58.806,0:24:02.536
>> Nermin Selimic: The wonderful world[br]of technology from time to time.

0:24:05.555,0:24:08.382
>> Jerry Jicha: So as Nermin stated,

0:24:08.382,0:24:12.190
I'm going to be demonstrating[br]a lot of different things on TalkBack.

0:24:12.190,0:24:15.881
One of the things I do want to stress[br]to people

0:24:16.291,0:24:18.572
When I have helped with Android[br]in the past,

0:24:20.605,0:24:23.469
several of the people have come[br]from iPhone.

0:24:24.098,0:24:28.458
And they would get really frustrated[br]really quickly saying,

0:24:28.458,0:24:30.635
I can't use the Android,[br]I can't use the Android.

0:24:31.047,0:24:33.055
One of the things[br]that you will notice today,

0:24:33.055,0:24:37.148
if you are familiar with iOS[br]and Voiceover,

0:24:37.643,0:24:41.754
is that there are some gestures[br]that are the exact same

0:24:41.754,0:24:45.306
as what they are on iOS.

0:24:45.306,0:24:48.105
For example, flicking left, flicking right

0:24:48.105,0:24:49.544
-- and that's with one finger;

0:24:50.761,0:24:54.181
using Explore By Touch, which that is

0:24:54.181,0:24:56.519
when you just put your finger[br]on the screen

0:24:56.519,0:24:58.499
and move your finger around.

0:24:59.295,0:25:02.934
That's the exact same,[br]also, double tapping is the exact same.

0:25:03.522,0:25:06.080
So just in that, alone,

0:25:06.080,0:25:08.904
you have the very basics to[br]at least move around a bit.

0:25:09.378,0:25:12.849
There are some gestures>>[br]that are very similar,

0:25:13.436,0:25:15.948
but with maybe one less finger.

0:25:15.948,0:25:19.715
For example, when you want to move[br]from page 1 to page 2,

0:25:21.245,0:25:26.303
on iOS, as you know, you use a straight[br]finger-swipe from left to right

0:25:26.303,0:25:28.805
or right to left in pages.

0:25:28.805,0:25:33.065
Whereas in Android, it is two finger swipe[br]from left to right or right to left.

0:25:33.368,0:25:37.301
So never tell yourself[br]that you can't do it.

0:25:37.301,0:25:42.563
Because if you have used Voiceover,[br]then you can use Android.

0:25:44.873,0:25:47.973
That being said, Nermin,[br]where do we want to start?

0:25:58.191,0:25:59.572
Nermin?

0:26:01.148,0:26:02.740
>> Nermin Selimic: I apologize.

0:26:04.290,0:26:06.879
The mute button is sometimes a mystery.

0:26:07.165,0:26:12.987
So your screen is already turned on.[br](check)

0:26:12.987,0:26:17.186
So if you can just show some basic[br]home screen navigation,

0:26:17.601,0:26:21.950
and then let's move into Settings[br]after that

0:26:22.086,0:26:24.006
>> Jerry Jicha: It's all right, because[br]it is very important

0:26:24.006,0:26:27.813
to be able to manage the settings[br]such as the ring tone and so on.

0:26:27.836,0:26:35.626
>> Nermin Selimic: OK[br](Crosstalk about Jerry's screen) (check)

0:26:35.626,0:26:37.733
And let's navigate over the screen

0:26:37.733,0:26:43.441
so we will have that visual experience[br]into TalkBack.

0:26:47.227,0:26:48.968
>> Nermin Selimic: And just[br]as a quick reminder,

0:26:48.968,0:26:52.240
I think we have someone who joined[br]who may not have heard before:

0:26:52.856,0:26:58.996
Please make sure phones are muted[br]for optimal audio for everybody.

0:26:59.843,0:27:02.468
>> Jerry Jicha: So we're going[br]to demonstrate now

0:27:02.468,0:27:06.049
the very basic gestures[br]of getting around in TalkBack.

0:27:06.747,0:27:11.450
Hopefully, you guys can see[br]most of the screen, if not all.

0:27:12.913,0:27:15.501
So I will go ahead[br]and turn the phone on,

0:27:15.501,0:27:17.439
and I will just use my fingerprint[br]to do it.

0:27:17.439,0:27:18.967
I'm not even going[br]to push the power button.

0:27:20.789,0:27:21.630
Okay

0:27:21.630,0:27:24.488
>> VOICE: ... Device unlocked. [br]There we go.

0:27:24.488,0:27:26.106
1:34 p.m.[br]>> Jerry Jicha: It was already on

0:27:26.106,0:27:27.307
>> VOICE: Google now launching.

0:27:27.770,0:27:31.320
>> Jerry Jicha: All right,[br]so I'm going to put my finger up here.

0:27:31.324,0:27:34.154
>> VOICE: Google search. [br]Double press to activate.

0:27:35.025,0:27:38.127
>> Jerry Jicha: I'm just going to show you[br]the Explore by Touch first.

0:27:38.686,0:27:42.700
So as I've stated,[br]if I move my finger across the screen --

0:27:42.969,0:27:46.155
>> VOICE: Google search,[br]Double tap to activate Google Apps (check).

0:27:46.457,0:27:48.175
(unclear) ... 553 bars

0:27:48.577,0:27:50.770
Google Apps[br]Voice search button.

0:27:51.042,0:27:52.983
Google search, rescue.

0:27:53.079,0:27:54.646
(unclear) .... Chrome

0:27:54.840,0:27:56.984
... RAZ Mobility installer.

0:27:57.277,0:28:01.013
Actions: remove, uninstall move ...[br]double press to activate

0:28:01.013,0:28:03.202
Double pass ..... press.

0:28:03.202,0:28:05.170
>> Jerry Jicha: So as you see,[br]it actually reads everything

0:28:05.170,0:28:08.389
that I was moving my finger across.

0:28:08.832,0:28:13.531
Now, again, flicking forward and backward,[br]meaning left and right.

0:28:13.531,0:28:15.890
Again, it's the same thing.

0:28:15.890,0:28:17.456
Find an icon.

0:28:17.456,0:28:19.765
>> VOICE: Working at Google app,[br]working....

0:28:21.070,0:28:22.632
>> Nermin Selimic: Sorry, listen,[br]just a second.

0:28:22.632,0:28:25.867
I believe we are experiencing[br]some technical difficulty.

0:28:26.888,0:28:31.344
There are some participants[br]who cannot see you on video.

0:28:32.292,0:28:33.691
>> Jerry Jicha: Okay.

0:28:34.519,0:28:39.699
>> VOICE: Charging battery level 100%.[br]Dual power charged to 100%.

0:28:40.724,0:28:42.968
Power charged to 100%.

0:28:44.470,0:28:45.767
>> Nermin Selimic: Ehm.

0:28:57.559,0:29:00.637
-- are there participants who can[br]see Jerry on video?

0:29:03.780,0:29:11.098
>> Yes, I can see him. I can see him.

0:29:11.370,0:29:12.670
>> Now, we can.

0:29:12.670,0:29:14.403
>> I have never seen his video screen

0:29:14.403,0:29:16.863
but the ScreenMeet window[br]is simply closed.

0:29:16.863,0:29:18.845
There is no video from his phone.

0:29:18.845,0:29:22.640
>> Nermin Selimic:[br]Yes, we will try to reinitiate that

0:29:22.646,0:29:27.318
And just for Jerry's video, it will only[br]be present when he is talking.

0:29:27.318,0:29:31.187
So now, when I am talking, obviously,[br]you won't be seeing Jerry,

0:29:31.187,0:29:37.219
but during the time when he is talking,[br]you should be able to see Jerry.

0:29:41.370,0:29:52.947
Just a little bit of patience[br]until we reinitiate the Screen Meet.

0:29:55.265,0:29:58.309
So Jerry, the Screen Meet is closed.

0:30:06.323,0:30:07.586
>> VOICE: (incmprehensible)

0:30:07.586,0:30:10.707
Double tap to activate ... searches.

0:30:18.791,0:30:21.516
>> Nermin Selimic: OK, no worries.

0:14:59.818,0:15:02.818
>> Nermin Selimic:if there's a means to reactivate it

0:30:01.458,0:30:03.933
>> VOICE: New button, over (incomprehensible)

0:30:03.933,0:30:06.313
>> Nermin Selimic: ....if there is a means (unclear)[br]to reactivate it.

0:30:10.707,0:30:13.702
>> Nermin Selimic: Sorry, Jerry --[br]>> Jerry Jicha: Nermin --

0:30:14.208,0:30:18.171
Nermin, Nermin, there is a reason why:[br]it says I have to purchase it.

0:30:22.334,0:30:27.108
I will actually initiate it here[br]from a different location

0:30:27.108,0:30:30.030
and we will be following[br]as your making progress.

0:30:30.030,0:30:31.401
So just a second.

0:30:31.819,0:30:35.405
We will have here another session.

0:30:54.139,0:30:59.945
Okay. So, Jerry, please continue,[br]and I will try to follow your text. (check)

0:31:01.244,0:31:05.457
>> Jerry Jicha: Okay. So basically,[br]as I was going to say earlier --

0:31:05.457,0:31:07.119
let me get back to the home screen here.

0:31:07.865,0:31:11.626
So basically, I will find an icon[br]on my screen.

0:31:12.301,0:31:15.144
>> VOICE (Incomprehensible) MPM[br]Google Now! launcher

0:31:15.918,0:31:18.217
>> Jerry Jicha: And so now[br]I'm going to flick to the right.

0:31:18.620,0:31:26.403
>> VOICE: (incomprehensible) RAZ Mobility[br]Installer, (incomp) Play Store.

0:31:26.743,0:31:30.913
>> Jerry Jicha: So as you see[br]I am actually moving forward

0:31:30.913,0:31:34.332
and if I flick backwards[br]-- in other words, flick to the left --

0:31:34.577,0:31:40.549
>> VOICE: ... Google.RAZ Mobility ....[br]Action

0:31:40.549,0:31:42.595
>> Jerry Jicha: It moves backwards through[br][br]

0:31:42.808,0:31:46.592
and real quick you see me waving[br]my hand over the top of the screen

0:31:46.592,0:31:49.458
and then all of a sudden TalkBack stops.

0:31:49.883,0:31:53.086
Let's think of it as the control key,

0:31:53.442,0:31:56.810
if you are using a Windows computer[br]with JAWS or Window-Eyes,

0:31:57.441,0:32:02.886
Waving your hand in front of the proximity[br]sensor is the same, it's the equivalent.

0:32:03.561,0:32:05.545
Alright, so now that we've done[br]all of that,

0:32:05.545,0:32:07.494
I'll go ahead and go into settings.

0:32:07.506,0:32:13.426
And that's a very important area,[br]so I'm going to go to the app drawer.

0:32:16.543,0:32:20.565
And because I've gone to settings[br]rather frequently,

0:32:20.565,0:32:25.111
up above the top of the app drawer[br]is going to be four icons

0:32:25.111,0:32:27.312
that you've used rather frequently,

0:32:29.798,0:32:31.858
and for menu settings, it's right there.

0:32:31.858,0:32:35.844
>> VOICE: ... double pass to activate[br]double pass and hold ..... press

0:32:36.343,0:32:39.965
Settings settings[br]Showing items 1 to 9 of 36.

0:32:40.644,0:32:43.501
>> Jerry Jicha: All right.[br]So now we are in settings.

0:32:43.852,0:32:47.542
And here we can show you that[br]Explore By Touch works just as well.

0:32:48.075,0:32:50.497
Again if you put your finger[br]on the screen,

0:32:50.895,0:32:54.397
>> VOICE: ....[br]list 36 items.

0:32:54.397,0:32:56.217
>> Jerry Jicha: So I'm just going to move[br]my finger down.

0:32:56.217,0:33:00.974
>> VOICE: ... WiFi ... [br]Bluetooth disconnected

0:33:00.974,0:33:06.135
..... Double press to activate.

0:33:06.135,0:33:07.608
>> Jerry Jicha: Now I am down[br]to the bottom of the screen,

0:33:07.608,0:33:09.679
you are probably wondering[br]how do you get

0:33:09.679,0:33:11.825
more items on the screen?

0:33:12.129,0:33:14.803
Take two fingers[br]and slide them up the screen

0:33:14.803,0:33:16.624
as if you are pulling a page up.

0:33:17.259,0:33:22.146
(Ascending beeps)[br]>> VOICE: Showing items 7 to 14 of 36.

0:33:22.146,0:33:24.136
>> Jerry Jicha: And as you know, TalkBack[br]does this sound,

0:33:24.136,0:33:25.828
letting you know[br]you are doing it correctly.

0:33:26.490,0:33:29.935
And also when you stop,[br]TalkBack will tell you now

0:33:29.935,0:33:32.921
how many of the items are on the screen[br]and where you are at.

0:33:33.653,0:33:37.215
>> VOICE: Data usage ...

0:33:37.229,0:33:42.281
Notifications, sound ringer volume[br]at 100%... Press to activate.

0:33:42.281,0:33:44.297
>> Jerry Jicha: We want to show you[br]how to go in and change,

0:33:44.297,0:33:48.173
let's say, like, your ringer.

0:33:48.496,0:33:50.881
So, going here, in the sound –

0:33:50.881,0:33:53.130
>> VOICE: Sound. Showing items 1[br]through 8 of 12.

0:33:53.973,0:33:58.875
Ring volume in list 12 item[br]-- also vibrate for calls off switch.

0:33:59.121,0:34:01.179
>> Jerry Jicha: And you can just[br]flick through the settings.

0:34:01.447,0:34:07.102
>> VOICE: Do not disturb. Phone ring tone[br]Digital phone. Double tap to activate.

0:34:07.439,0:34:09.047
>> Jerry Jicha: Simply double tap on it.

0:34:09.881,0:34:14.205
>> VOICE: Media storage. Showing items[br]52 to 60 of 191.

0:34:14.906,0:34:16.856
>> Jerry Jicha: Telling me[br]how many ringers I've got.

0:34:17.743,0:34:22.751
>> VOICE: ... in list of 191 items.[br]Double tap to toggle.

0:34:22.842,0:34:25.991
>> Jerry Jicha: So it's actually not[br]not a double tap, double tap to toggle.

0:34:25.991,0:34:28.170
What it is is If you want to hear[br]a ring tone,

0:34:29.303,0:34:31.701
you just simply double tap it.

0:34:32.374,0:34:36.923
(Music plays.)

0:34:36.923,0:34:39.195
And as you see, it plays it.

0:34:39.196,0:34:41.189
If you want to accept it --

0:34:42.142,0:34:46.941
>> VOICE: ... Okay Button.[br]Down, showing items 1...

0:34:46.941,0:34:48.146
>> Jerry Jicha: -- down at the bottom,

0:34:48.146,0:34:51.618
right above where[br]your home and overview buttons are,

0:34:51.618,0:34:53.352
you've got OK and Cancel.

0:34:53.352,0:34:55.855
And I hit the OK button so it would stop.

0:34:56.436,0:35:00.512
So now I have changed my ringtone to –[br]some of you may have noticed

0:35:00.512,0:35:02.308
the Night Rider theme song.

0:35:02.569,0:35:08.640
And as you also noticed, you can hear[br]TalkBack over the top of the ringtone

0:35:08.640,0:35:11.489
rather well,[br]without doing any type of ducking.

0:35:13.306,0:35:16.047
Display, or let's some --

0:35:16.047,0:35:20.090
Volume is another good one[br]that we really need to look at,

0:35:20.539,0:35:23.147
because whether you need[br]to turn it up or down,

0:35:23.865,0:35:26.045
well, there's a couple different ways[br]you can do it.

0:35:26.045,0:35:27.860
The easiest at least for me --

0:35:27.870,0:35:33.164
>> VOICE: Media volume, double tap[br]to activate, 100% seek control.

0:35:33.616,0:35:37.558
>> Jerry Jicha: Now here's[br]one of the enhancements in Android.

0:35:37.558,0:35:39.122
It's a seek control.

0:35:39.520,0:35:46.481
And back in older days, you had to double[br]tap and hold your finger on the screen

0:35:46.481,0:35:49.092
and slide your finger to move the slider.

0:35:49.378,0:35:50.625
Not anymore.

0:35:50.829,0:35:54.201
I can simply use my volume up[br]and volume down keys

0:35:54.643,0:35:58.057
to change the volume level.

0:35:58.396,0:36:00.555
So if I press volume down a couple times.

0:36:01.432,0:36:07.523
>> VOICE: 93% seek control.[br]86 % seek control. 80% seek control.

0:36:08.073,0:36:10.642
73% seek control. ...

0:36:10.642,0:36:12.667
>> Jerry Jicha: And as you notice,[br]it is getting quieter.

0:36:13.493,0:36:16.004
So I can turn it back on, [br]just by pressing Volume Up.

0:36:16.016,0:36:20.273
>> VOICE: 73% seek control[br]100% seek control

0:36:20.281,0:36:23.270
>> Jerry Jicha: And there you go![br]So that is how you can use sliders now.

0:36:26.200,0:36:28.052
Real quick, the display.

0:36:28.480,0:36:31.853
>> VOICE: Back button, settings, display.

0:36:31.853,0:36:35.536
Adaptive brightness is off[br]in list of Display,

0:36:36.657,0:36:39.267
Brightness level, in list, eleven items.

0:36:47.843,0:36:49.213
>> Jerry Jicha: If you are totally blind,

0:36:40.387,0:36:45.683
Brightness -- brightness, 0 percent[br]Display brightness

0:36:45.683,0:36:47.843
Seek control out of list Brightness.

0:36:49.213,0:36:52.382
this is one of the things[br]I suggest you do,

0:36:52.382,0:36:55.527
is turning your level,[br]your brightness level down to 0%.

0:36:55.945,0:36:59.916
Again, we are on a slider,[br]so if I want to turn my display up

0:37:00.186,0:37:01.783
I'll just do it quickly here.

0:37:02.225,0:37:08.123
5% display brightness seek control.[br]41% display brightness seek control.

0:37:08.123,0:37:09.730
>> Jerry Jicha: And hopefully,[br]in the video you can tell

0:37:09.730,0:37:11.603
my display has gotten brighter.

0:37:12.770,0:37:14.379
So I'll turn it back down to 0.

0:37:14.647,0:37:18.040
>> VOICE: 36% display brightness[br]seek control

0:37:18.486,0:37:20.756
0% display brightness seek control.

0:37:20.756,0:37:23.707
>> Jerry Jicha: And then when you are[br]done, you don't have to hit OK;

0:37:23.707,0:37:24.604
you just hit back.

0:37:24.644,0:37:26.940
>> VOICE: Back button, display.

0:37:26.940,0:37:29.534
>> Jerry Jicha: One of the things we[br]probably should have told you

0:37:29.534,0:37:32.660
is, in Android,[br]or at least on the Moto Z Play,

0:37:32.987,0:37:37.794
down at the bottom, you've got 3 buttons:[br]you've got Back, Home, and Overview.

0:37:50.573,0:37:54.718
>> Jerry Jicha: Nermin, is everything OK?[br]>> Nermin Selimic: Yes, we can hear you.

0:37:55.314,0:37:58.158
>> Jerry Jicha: OK.[br]So where should we go after that?

0:37:37.794,0:37:45.367
>> Hello >> Yes? >> Oh no. [br]>> Hello. Hello?

0:37:58.158,0:38:01.281
I mean, what about if someone, or what?

0:38:01.671,0:38:04.337
The speed of TalkBack[br]or where do you want me to go?

0:38:05.553,0:38:08.389
>> Nermin Selimic: Just before we move[br]to that one,

0:38:08.389,0:38:10.083
I think it is always very interesting,

0:38:10.083,0:38:13.083
let's see the activation and deactivation[br]of Bluetooth.

0:38:15.786,0:38:17.867
>> Jerry Jicha: Okay. Well,

0:38:17.867,0:38:20.956
I don't have anything[br]in Bluetooth on here,

0:38:20.956,0:38:22.599
but it's real simple to do.

0:38:22.836,0:38:27.587
>> VOICE: ... mode ....[br].... Settings

0:38:27.587,0:38:31.559
More. In list data usage,[br]Bluetooth disconnected.

0:38:31.589,0:38:35.283
>> Jerry Jicha: ... I can go[br]into the Bluetooth window.

0:38:36.388,0:38:41.200
>> VOICE: Bluetooth, navigate.... [br]Bluetooth. More options button,

0:38:41.453,0:38:44.088
On switch. Double tap to toggle.

0:38:44.092,0:38:49.576
>> Jerry Jicha: Bluetooth is on,[br]and notice it does say it is on,

0:38:50.233,0:38:55.673
if I simply double tap that, now it's off.[br]>> VOICE: Off.

0:38:56.539,0:39:01.191
>> Jerry Jicha: So if you have something[br]that is Bluetooth capable

0:39:01.191,0:39:02.927
and you want to connect it[br]to your Android,

0:39:02.927,0:39:03.927
you do it through from within..

0:39:04.491,0:39:07.639
I don't have anything connected to it[br]at the moment,

0:39:08.014,0:39:09.856
but in here is where you would do it.

0:39:11.476,0:39:18.102
As you can see, it is showing[br]the items that are available.

0:39:18.403,0:39:22.154
>> VOICE: On switch; input the results[br]...wireless keyboard.

0:39:22.612,0:39:32.696
Available Bluetooth one through 9.[br]Key 6133 – (indiscernible).

0:39:33.449,0:39:36.247
>> So it's showing what is available.

0:39:37.928,0:39:39.857
>> Nermin Selimic: Let's spend[br]a little bit more time

0:39:39.857,0:39:42.928
looking into the software settings.[br]Voice Bridge, Speak, et cetera.

0:39:42.928,0:39:44.270
>> Jerry Jicha: All right.

0:39:51.516,0:39:56.419
You can get the stuff for TalkBack through the accessibility,

0:39:59.249,0:40:02.029
so we will go to -- we will have to scroll.

0:40:06.068,0:40:18.787
>> VOICE: (Talking).

0:40:19.729,0:40:22.910
>> Jerry Jicha: One moment here.

0:40:25.338,0:40:29.080
>> VOICE: Back button, back up and reset.

0:40:30.430,0:40:31.730
Motorola, showing items...[br]Paragraph. Printing, 0 print jobs.

0:40:32.976,0:40:34.480
Accessibility.

0:40:37.250,0:40:39.361
>> Jerry Jicha: So we go there.

0:40:40.536,0:40:41.320
>> VOICE: Accessibility, services,[br]TalkBack on.

0:40:42.802,0:40:48.211
Double tap to activate. TalkBack.

0:40:50.560,0:40:52.365
>> Jerry Jicha: And the settings button,[br]it's up there in the top right corner.

0:40:53.953,0:40:56.582
>> VOICE: TalkBack settings.[br]Speech speech, volume.

0:40:59.528,0:41:00.145
Text-to-speech settings.[br]Double tap to activate.

0:41:02.213,0:41:04.591
>> Jerry Jicha: Text-to-speech settings[br]is what Nermin was talking about,

0:41:05.096,0:41:08.447
so let's go there.

0:41:08.447,0:41:10.987
Now, if you are able to see my screen,

0:41:10.987,0:41:16.443
here is where you might see[br]something different.

0:41:16.443,0:41:18.247
When you get your Moto Z play,

0:41:18.247,0:41:21.288
you only have[br]the Google text-to-speech engine.

0:41:21.288,0:41:24.147
However, those of you[br]who can see my screen

0:41:24.147,0:41:26.982
can see I actually have a couple others.

0:41:26.982,0:41:35.244
This is one thing you cannot do on iOS[br]as far as buying synthesizers

0:41:35.244,0:41:38.098
and using them with voiceover.

0:41:38.098,0:41:44.185
For example, and I will use[br]a particular synthesizer real quick

0:41:44.185,0:41:49.708
just to show you that it is there, and[br]it is one that a lot of blind people like.

0:41:49.708,0:41:51.855
They find it very easy to understand,

0:41:51.855,0:41:53.467
and we're not going to spend[br]a lot of time on it,

0:41:53.467,0:41:55.818
but I will just show you it is there.

0:41:55.818,0:42:00.429
>> VOICE: (Talking).

0:42:00.429,0:42:03.320
>> Jerry Jicha: All of us know "Eloquence."

0:42:03.662,0:42:06.674
And the phone is just basically telling me

0:42:06.674,0:42:13.505
what this software synthesizer[br]might have the capability of doing.

0:42:13.505,0:42:16.274
So I just have to hit OK.

0:42:19.234,0:42:21.556
So if any of you[br]can hear that pretty well,

0:42:23.579,0:42:28.151
there is the voice[br]you should be familiar with.

0:42:30.261,0:42:30.770
Now, it does cost more[br]but one of the benefits

0:42:34.806,0:42:38.197
is that it is a lot more responsive[br]than the Google GPS.

0:42:38.197,0:42:40.395
I will go ahead[br]and switch back to Google,

0:42:42.395,0:42:45.177
and one of the things[br]you wanted us to demonstrate

0:42:45.177,0:42:48.237
was the pitch and the speed.

0:42:49.187,0:42:51.721
>> VOICE: 15% speech rate.[br]Double tap to activate.

0:42:52.107,0:42:56.917
>> Jerry Jicha: So below your engines,[br]you will find your pitch and your speed.

0:42:56.917,0:42:58.367
Speed is the first one.

0:42:58.367,0:43:00.897
>> VOICE: 15% speed control.[br]Press volume speech to adjust.

0:43:02.627,0:43:06.449
>> Jerry Jicha: It is telling us[br]what to do.

0:43:07.370,0:43:11.921
So use your down key whenever[br]you have your slider highlighted.

0:43:13.720,0:43:16.890
>> VOICE: 10% speed control.[br]5% speed control (slower).

0:43:19.171,0:43:22.763
>> Jerry Jicha: Or if you want it faster.

0:43:23.361,0:43:24.481
>> VOICE: (Talking faster).

0:43:24.481,0:43:27.062
>> Jerry Jicha: You can see[br]it does it on the fly,

0:43:27.062,0:43:31.392
so you can hear how fast[br]it is going to talking when you do it.

0:43:32.242,0:43:37.012
>> VOICE: 15% speed control.

0:43:37.821,0:43:42.812
>> Jerry Jicha: And as far as pitch[br]-- there is pitch right there.

0:43:44.596,0:43:49.104
>> VOICE: 20% speed control. [br]Pitch volume keys to adjust.

0:43:50.830,0:43:55.335
>> Jerry Jicha: If I want[br]to lower its pitch,

0:43:56.343,0:43:57.373
5% speed control, 10% speed control.

0:44:01.355,0:44:05.263
>> Jerry Jicha: I just use the volume keys[br]to raise or lower the pitch.

0:44:07.484,0:44:08.563
And there you go!

0:44:09.165,0:44:13.845
So there again, the very basics[br]of setting your settings – the speech

0:44:13.845,0:44:16.265
the way you want it[br]and what is comfortable for you.

0:44:19.610,0:44:22.725
>> Nermin Selimic: That was great, Jerry.[br]Thanks a lot.

0:44:23.417,0:44:26.305
Are there any tips[br]you can provide to users with,

0:44:26.305,0:44:32.477
it's not for switching permanently[br]on or off TalkBack,

0:44:33.436,0:44:37.485
but just to provide everyone[br]the opportunity to understand

0:44:37.485,0:44:44.057
how easy it is to suspend[br]and reactivate TalkBack?

0:44:44.057,0:44:45.087
>> Jerry Jicha: All right.

0:44:45.087,0:44:46.755
So let's say that you've got someone[br]next to you

0:44:46.755,0:44:48.977
who wants to borrow your phone,[br]they are sighted

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Obviously, (A),[br]they won't know how to use TalkBack.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
(B), it might get in the way.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So it is really easy to suspend TalkBack.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
All you have to do is go back here.[br]And what I will do --

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: TalkBack, back, accessibility.[br]Items 1 through 8 of 22.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Back button, settings.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: So I wanted[br]to get somewhere.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
At any rate, what I will do[br]is press and hold

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the volume up and volume down keys[br]for about a second to two seconds.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Suspend TalkBack, TalkBack.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: All right.[br]So if I flip through this screen here.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Are you sure you want to[br]suspend TalkBack?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You can resume TalkBack[br]from the notification

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
by returning to the lock screen.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Only show this warning, check box.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: It will always have[br]this dialogue every time

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
unless you change this check box,[br]which is what I am going to do.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I don't want to see that check box.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Cancel button.[br]>> Jerry Jicha: I will hit OK.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: TalkBack suspended.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: And now,[br]I don't want to go touching my phone,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but if I did, now another person[br]can use it

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
because TalkBack is suspended.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
See, I am touching my screen,[br]and there's nothing.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So to bring TalkBack back,[br]it's real simple.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Go ahead and turn your phone off

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
-- well, push the power button,[br]so that the screen is off.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And then simply turn the screen back on.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: TalkBack resumed.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: And notice it's back.[br]Go ahead and unblock.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Unblock. Settings.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: And as you see,[br]TalkBack is back up and running

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the way it used to be.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And now -- I want to show you real quick[br]because I checked that check box.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Now, when I suspend TalkBack[br]using the two volume keys --

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: TalkBack suspended.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: -- it just[br]immediately suspends it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You don't have to hit the OK button[br]if you uncheck that check box.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: TalkBack resumed.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: And there you go!

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Excellent.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
In your experience, Jerry,[br]how much are you relying on the device?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Are you using the OK Google?[br]How is it working out for you?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: I use it[br]from time to time.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I don't use it all the time.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But there are some things you can do[br]that is rather nice.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You can tell it to call people.[br]You can use it to send a text message.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You can also ask a general question,[br]just like Siri, you know,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
what is the temperature, things like that.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And it's just as responsive as, you know,[br]Siri would be on the iPhone.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You can even use it to open apps.[br]Playing music.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Possibly even going to websites.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I just personally don't use it[br]all the time,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but, you know, for example,[br]if I am just out and about,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and I want to know[br]what the temperature is,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I could just say, OK, Google,[br]what is the temperature?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: it is 62 degrees,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: So it's 62 degrees.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And on the screen it shows[br]the weather for where I'm at.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You probably can't see it very well[br]just because of my screen is dimmed,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and I don't know how good[br]a webcam will show it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But if I were to touch the screen --

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Menu button.[br]Select today, tomorrow.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: So it does have[br]a weather card up on the screen

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
right at the moment.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Back button, home screen.[br]>> Jerry Jicha: Go ahead.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: I think[br]what is important to mention

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is that in my experience, as a user[br]you are talking about voice commands

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
available to Google on Android devices,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and if you are talking about Siri,[br]it is worth it to mention that

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on the Android side, for voice command,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it is not only about[br]the fewer voice commands,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but it is also about the fact that

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the whole power of Google[br]stands behind that.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Correct? So there are[br]additional algorithms,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
there are additional options,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that a certain command is being given[br]to voice command and so on,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that there is significantly more going on

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and significantly more being available[br]in the background

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in order to determine if the voice command[br]wasn't 100% clear.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
What is it actually that[br]the user is trying to accomplish?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So at least in my user experience,[br]this was significant.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Sometimes I will be struggling with Siri,[br]because what am I supposed to do?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
What commands on Google that

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
-- that doesn't happen with Google[br]too frequently.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
With that being said, Jerry,[br]we are talking about the smartphone.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So smartphones are doing many things[br]that at the end of the day

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it is being used for phone communication.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So I would like to show participants[br]how to manage phone calls

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
when dealing with Android accessibility.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So as the first part of that,[br]I will be actually placing a call,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and I will be calling you,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and just to illustrate to everyone[br]how you will be answering the call.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: Okay.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
One of the things you do have to do,[br]unfortunately,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
there is no gesture[br]for answering the phone.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You have to find the answer button.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
– found the answer button,[br]double tapped it,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and now I am on the phone call.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
One thing I do find in TalkBack is

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
you do have the ability to set[br]the power button as a hang-up button.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So trying to find the end button[br]on the screen,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
you can actually just[br]push the power button

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and it will actually[br]just hang up the call.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
What do you want to do[br]at this point, Nermin?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Jerry,[br]let's place a call, please.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: Okay.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So a couple different ways[br]we could do it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We could cheat[br]and use Google to do it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But we will do it [br]he old-fashioned way

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and go to the phone app.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Home screen one.[br]Phone. Showing item one of one.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: And we will choose[br]the dial pad button.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Dial pad button.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: Which is pretty much[br]below the home button.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We will call a screen -- we will call[br]local time and temperature.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It is not local to me,[br]but it is local by about 20 miles.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: By the way, Jerry,[br]excellent presentation.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Phone dial pad.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: All right!

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There is something else that[br]we were going to be bringing up soon.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
As you saw, I just got a text message[br]and you just heard what it said.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You talk back,[br]read the notification as it came in.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So we will show you how to respond to that[br]and look at it here in just a moment.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So we will really quickly dial[br]a phone number here.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Selection -- --[br]>> Jerry Jicha: You just lift your \finger.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: 4 (speaking numbers.)

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: 4-1-9-6-7-3-4-7-0-1.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I could double-check that[br]by looking at the edit box.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I dialed that number.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Right below the 0 is your dial button,[br]and there you go. And ... [ Pause ].

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: I'm sorry --

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: Oops. Hang on.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: I'm sorry.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: I was trying[br]to hang up the call. (Laughing).

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Also[br]one of the very frequent scenarios

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is obviously users browsing a website.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So let's just -- browse a website.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Let's go to CNN.com or something like that[br]and see how that is working out.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Unlocked. 2:01 p.m.[br]Home screen one of three.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Overview, Google now launching.[br]Overview button. Double tap.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: So we can open Chrome.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: 70%, 100%.[br]Http:(),

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
click notification, message pending.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Http Section:// –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: Now,[br]one of the nice things you can do –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as you can see,[br]I am using my volume keys.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Slash, equal files …

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: I can use the volume keys[br]to move through the edit field.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So there's a lot to the voice,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think there was a Clear All,[br]but I don't think there is.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Delete, delete,[br]delete, delete.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: It looks like[br]I have done a –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I have a lot here to delete.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Key delete. Delete.[br]Delete. Key delete.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: Unfortunately,[br]you can't just hold down the delete key.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Progress 70 percent.[br]End rescue.comment delete.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Key deleted 90%. Delete, delete.[br]Key delete. Deleted.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Key delete, delete.[br]Key deleted.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: I wonder[br]if I could get out

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and just use Google.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Let's try it.[br]Let's do that.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: 2:03 p.m.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: Okay. OK Google,[br]open www.CNN.com.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Open Web page.[br]Progress bar, 26%. 77%. 81%.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
CNN bringing you the latest news[br]and video.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
98%. Link.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Former United States First Lady[br]Michelle Obama's

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
file on architecture speech[br]in Orlando, Florida.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: If you wanted[br]to read that,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
you would simply double tap on it

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
because it did say "link"[br]at the very end.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Excellent.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think that was very, very helpful.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Jerry, do you believe it's interesting[br]just to show installing new apps?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's always very, very relevant,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so could you just illustrate the process[br]how to install a new app?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: All right.[br]So it's actually pretty easy.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We will go to the home screen.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Home button. Home button.[br]Home screen one of three.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha:[br]And we need the Play Store.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Chrome. Play Store.[br]Play Store, apps and games.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: So we can[br]do a voice search

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
or we could just type it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Search button.[br]>> Jerry Jicha: Weather Bug.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Play Store.[br]Weather Bug widget, star rating 0.703.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Weather by Weather Bug everyone.[br]Star rating -- 18,405 reviews.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: All right.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So if I wanted to install weather bug,[br]first thing I have to do

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is actually select the app.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Showing items[br]4 and 5 of 16.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Weather Bug. Search Google Play.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Weather Bug.[br]Weather by Weather Bug.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Installed button.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: I will double tap[br]the install button

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: Play Store,[br]showing items 1 to 4 of 17.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Weather by Weather Bug.[br]Cancel by hitting button.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: It's still downloading[br]the Weather Bug.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Notice I am using Explore By Touch.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
That's how I noticed I could go ahead[br]and open it if I want to.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I can open it right from here[br]if I want to,[br]but that is how you install an app.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's done. It's already done.[br]It's that simple to do.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Excellent.[br]Thanks, Jerry.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So it does illustrate text messages,[br]you received one.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think just in the interest of time,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
because there are[br]several other categories

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that we would like to cover today,[br]I think it is very intuitive,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
how it works, for people[br]to send text messages and –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to receive text messages,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and for sending text messages,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
there is the option to utilize[br]either voice commands

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
or just to type using TalkBack.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So I think this is also a good Segway[br]into the third-party application.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You I believe we will not have[br]sufficient time to demo

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
all of the applications,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but we can briefly touch on them[br]and I will be pulling up

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
some of these applications for everyone.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And, Jerry, if you can share[br]some of your experience

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
about several \apps.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
The first one that comes to my mind is,[br]Tap Tap See.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: Actually,[br]I was going to say that

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
there are two of them that come to mind[br]that are my biggest favorites.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Tap Tap See is one of them.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
How many times have you gone[br]into your refrigerator?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You have bought frozen pizzas[br]or even lasagna.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
My girlfriend and I[br]have been buying lasagnas lately.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
She likes the five-cheese.[br]I like the meat lovers.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
The boxes are the exact same size.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
No way to know which is which.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Let's use Tap Tap See.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You can take a picture of an item

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and it may actually tell you[br]what it is in most cases.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Now, there are times depending[br]on lighting and things like that

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that it may not work right away.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Try to change the angle,[br]try taking the picture a second time,[br]and it usually does work.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I use that app almost on a daily basis.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
One of the other big apps that I use[br]when I am out traveling,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
especially here in Marian, and I just[br]moved here a couple months ago.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I don't know Marion at all.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So when the cab drivers[br]are taking us places,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
one of the apps that I love to use[br]is nearby explore:

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Nearby explorer allows you to hear[br]what streets are coming up,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
if the street is on your left[br]or your right, places of interest.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You can even bus drivers[br]-- the drivers that you are in –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
one of the things that you can[br]get it to tell you

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is the speed you are driving at.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You can also get it to tell you[br]when you are turning on a street

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
what direction you are heading,[br]so you can learn the area

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
just by using that.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You can start walking the area[br]and using it as well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Great, Jerry.[br]Thanks a lot.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I believe when you and I were talking[br]about the third-party applications,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I believe that you mentioned also[br]the Get There app.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
That can be also very helpful[br]for the navigation.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
As far as I recall,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
you are a big fan[br]of the third-party application

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that allows you to voice-control[br]your camera.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: Well, actually, it's not[br]just the voice control part that I like;

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it's the fact that the actual app[br]is perfectly accessible.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
One of the drawbacks[br]on the Moto Z Play

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is the camera app that comes[br]with it by default is zero accessible.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
However, if you download a program[br]called Open Camera,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
not only can you find the shutter button[br]and the zoom controls and everything else,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
just about everything is accessible –[br]switching it from photo to video,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
accessing the settings, which is huge,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
being able to, as Nermin said,[br]saying the word "cheese," such as that,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and you can have it[br]take the picture automatically.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
One of the other big programs that I[br]-- and I totally forget until just now –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that I actually strongly suggest[br]people get

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
-- is KNFB Reader.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
This actually came in handy[br]the other day

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
when I went to cook a lasagna[br]in the oven.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I didn't know the directions, and –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
all I had to do was take a picture[br]out of the correct side of the box,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and when it found text[br]that was readable, it read it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So, you know, the O.C.R. capability[br]of KNFB Reader is really good.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I have actually used it when my computer[br]has all of a sudden stopped talking.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I have used KNFB Reader,[br]have taken a picture of the screen

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and tried to figure out what the error is.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And figure out what the error is.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You can even use it for that.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Great![br]Well, Jerry, thanks a lot.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think it was[br]a very impressive presentation,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and also confirmation

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
how the Android accessibility features[br]and options can be used.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Again, thank you very much.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We apologize[br]for the small technical difficulty.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So our original idea was[br]that you would be able

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to see literally Jerry's smartphone.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
That didn't happen.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But I was trying to “shadow”[br]Jerry as good as possible,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so I was emulating

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
whatever he was performing[br]on his smartphone.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I must admit Jerry was sometimes[br]moving much faster using TalkBack

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
than I did, looking at the display.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But I think it was still an experience[br]that was representative

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
for the use of TalkBack.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So there are two additional features

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
when we are talking about Android[br]and third-party accessibility

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that I would like Robert to talk about,[br]and one of them is actually Braille.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And the other one is the newest[br]Android accessibility feature,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Select to Speak.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: Just a quick word[br]about Braille.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
An Android device can be used[br]with a Braille display.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It is used with an app called BrailleBack[br]which has been around a number of years.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We won't be demonstrating it but,[br]like I said,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it's been around for a long time.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
One of the new test accessibility features[br]that was added in TalkBack 5.2.0,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
which was just released this past week,[br]is an option called Select to Speak.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Select to Speak is a great function[br]for people with low vision.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Select to Speak.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So say the user wants to use[br]their limited vision to call,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it works for that purpose.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Their eyes work sufficiently[br]for that purpose.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But let's say they can't read[br]a news article or e-mail with small fonts.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
They can simply press a little button[br]that appears

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in the right bottom edge of the screen[br]and then pass the part of the screen

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that they want spoken,[br]and then the device will start speaking.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So I will just show you on the screen[br]how that works.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Let's first go to CNN as an example.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So we have pulled up CNN.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Let's say we want the device[br]to read the article.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Simply press the button on the right:[br]>> VOICE: Dallas firefighter shot,[br]authorities say.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: So there you go.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
That's how you can get the device[br]on any portion of the screen

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that the user cannot see.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It is a good option for people[br]with low vision

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
or with any print disability.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: What about Braille[br]and Braille possibility?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: That's what I mentioned,[br]there is an app for that called BrailleBack.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Very good.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So the next part of our Webinar[br]is dedicated to accessibility option

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
for low vision users.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But before we move to that part[br]of the Webinar,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
clearly the accessibility for people[br]who are blind,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it is a very significant topic,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and I think we went through[br]so many options.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So at this time I would like[br]to open the floor,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
if there are any questions, before we move[br]on to the next item on the agenda.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So please feel free to ask questions[br]and don't forget to unmute yourself.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
(Pause).

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It appears there are no questions[br]at this time.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So we will move to the next section,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but please keep in mind[br]that we will have at the end,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as I said before, an opportunity for you[br]to ask questions,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in case you have some questions by then,[br]to make sure that there is an opportunity

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
for you to ask questions

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and also an opportunity[br]for such questions to be answered.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So we will be moving to the next part,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
which is the accessibility[br]for low-vision users.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Before I will just read along here[br]to complete.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
As previously, you will be able to see[br]the screen of the smartphone

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that I will be utilizing.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Okay. So if you are talking about[br]the accessibility feature

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
for low-vision users, clearly,[br]whatever we have seen so far,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
what was presented by Jerry,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that is obviously a great option[br]for many low-vision users.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
However, you know, on the other hand,[br]there are many low-vision users

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
who have no need to use TalkBack[br]all the time,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but it was a good solution for them as well. So the Select to Speak that

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Robert showed just minutes ago,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think that is a great addition[br]to the accessibility features on Android.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
For a low-vision user[br]who can easily navigate

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
either to place a phone call,[br]to open the dial pad and things like that,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
they might be struggling

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
if they are reading something[br]that is smaller on the display,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and in that case, they can easily[br]keep the select to talk activated

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
all the time and it is available to them,[br]as you can see here, in the corner.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Correct?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So I will press this now,[br]and I will capture the mail app,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and I will try to demo this one more time,[br]so hopefully you can hear it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> VOICE: E-mail.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: And very, very – [br]a tool that is very easy to access

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
at any time.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So in addition to that, there are many,[br]many other built-in options

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
for low-vision users.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
As always, they can be accessed[br]through settings,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and then moving down to accessibility.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So some of the most interesting ones[br]would be,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that I would like to mention here,[br]is the magnification gesture.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So in this case, it is over the switched on.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So what happens is,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
basically I will go back now[br]to the home screen.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
If I triple tap, you will see that anything[br]that is on the display or screen

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
will be increased.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And then, again, triple tapping[br]will deactivate it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I have heard feedback from some users[br]that if they are typing something

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
very quickly or deleting something[br]and they hit the delete button

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
three times very quickly

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it will actually activate[br]the magnification gesture

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so that is something people[br]should be aware of

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
when they are using it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So it is just a nice feature,[br]although I must admit,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
if someone is using that[br]in order to read an optical, let's say,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on Chrome or something like that,[br]it has a significant disadvantage;

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it will increase the text that is there.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But it will be running out of space

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so maybe you will start[br]scrolling to the left or right

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in order to read that.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But I think it is very, very helpful option.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Going back into accessibility[br]and all the different options that we have,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
we have also the font size[br]that can be adjusted, correct?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So the current setting on this device[br]is default.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I will start changing this now to large,[br]and you can see already

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in the upper part on the screen,[br]what is the change

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and what is the increase in font

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that such change in settings[br]would result in.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So very helpful.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Again, it is helpful for low-vision users[br]but only to a certain extent.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Additionally, there are options also[br]to manage the display size,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so how things are being displayed,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in particular if we are talking about[br]the call wall, text messages, so on.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
As you can see here, this is currently on default. I will change that to large, and, you know, it is also changing. It is very helpful.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: One point difference[br]between the display size and font size,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the display size,[br]not only is the text enlarged,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but all other aspects of the font[br]are enlarged –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so the notification, applications,[br]not just the text,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as is the case with font size.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Okay.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
The additional option[br]also for low-vision users

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is the text-to-speech output.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You know, we have seen that,[br]and it's not only navigate

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the home screen or just the settings[br]but also to receive text messages

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
or e-mails and so on and so on.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Additional option is also[br]the color inversion.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
This one, unfortunately,[br]when I'm sharing my smartphone screen,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
this one is not being transmitted[br]using the sharing technology.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But basically, what happens,[br]everything is inverted

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so whatever was white,[br]the background becomes black.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: Instead of[br]black on white, it is white on black.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Exactly.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And there are many options also[br]for the color correction.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It can be activated, and there are[br]different corrections and modes.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There is the red-green, blue-yellow,[br]so on, so on,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
depending on the challenges the user[br]is facing and also

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the type of the vision impairment,[br]that can be adjusted.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
When talking about low-vision users,[br]the very interesting part is actually

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
-- and I just realized I had[br]the color correction on. I apologize.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I will switch that off

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
-- there are very, very powerful[br]third-party applications.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There is one third-party application[br]in particular

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that I wanted to share[br]with everyone today.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And something that is very specific[br]about the application,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the application called Claria Zoom.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Actually very specific.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
The application is free.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It only exists on the Android.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
If you recall, I did mention[br]at the beginning of this session

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that Android is an open source[br]operating system,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so Android does allow developers,[br]application developers,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as well as hardware manufacturers,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to have more access

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to the operating system and to customize[br]it a little bit more,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and the Claria Zoom developers[br]clearly utilized that option,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that benefit

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and they have come up with the[br]Claria Zoom solution for low vision users.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So rather than continue to talk[br]about Claria Zoom

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I will show you a couple of things[br]about Claria Zoom

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
which I believe are very, very illustrative[br]of the power of Claria Zoom

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and the benefits it generates for low vision users.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So Claria Zoom can be used in order[br]to create an additional home page.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And in this case,[br]we have adjusted the size of the icons

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on the home screen[br]for the most relevant icons.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So you can see literally[br]that the whole home screen

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on this large 5.5 inch display[br]was utilized to show only four icons.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We have seen in many cases

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that the users[br]with significantly impaired vision

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
were able to continue to use[br]the smartphone

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
exactly because of this solution.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: And to be clear,[br]you can actually customize

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the number of icons[br]that appear on your screen.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So if you didn't want four –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
you wanted ten[br]or something of that nature,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
you can do that as well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Yes, and you can[br]select the ones you want.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: Yes.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: In addition to that,[br]as we had seen also

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
for the built-in feature,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Claria can also support color inversion[br]as well as color correction.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
The approach is exactly the same,[br]only that in this case,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it deals with the larger magnification[br]but that can be supported as well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think what is also very, very interesting[br]in the case of Claria, typically,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the built-in accessibility features,[br]on Android as well as on Apple,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
they do provide if somebody is typing[br]a text message, for the keyboard,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the key pad, as well as the text message,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
they will be only increased[br]to a certain extent.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But not really as much as is needed[br]for low vision user.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So in the case of Claria,[br]that's actually quite different,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and I will try to show that here.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So as you can see, correct,[br]the key pad is really very, very big.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Correct?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And then, even when you are typing[br]a text message,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it is very easy to use that.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Additional options that are built in,[br]you can see here the blue button?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
That is actually speech-to-text,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so a text message or e-mail[br]can be dictated as well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
An additional option that is very,[br]very exciting here

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is the ability for users to have[br]easy access to certain content

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on certain websites.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's good to know based on[br]the magnification gesture

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
you are increasing the display sizes

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
-- (voice interruption) –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it is increasing,[br]but it is running out of space.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It is impossible to see.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So the benefits that are available[br]to Claria is actually

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that it will pick up the content,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and then process it.[br]>> VOICE: New text found[br]at that location --

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: So in this case,[br]I'm using the Claria browser,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in order to access a website.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So just like any other regular browser.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But then it has the ability to process[br]the content from that website

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and present it as a pure text file[br]where the font is significantly increased,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and it's not running out of the display,[br]but rather, it was simply on the screen

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and users can process it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
That was a video, so I am trying to.[br]-- trying to …

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as you can see here, so we have[br]a specific article.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And now, that can be converted.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And you can see here how large it is

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and there is nothing[br]that is running out of the display,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and the user can continue to scroll down[br]very conveniently.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And all of this, the extracted text,[br]can be also increased even further,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and on top of that, all the color inversion[br]and color correction

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
can be applied to it as well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So I think that was really[br]a very significant benefit.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: You can change[br]the colors

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
by simply tapping on the screen[br]with three fingers.[br]You can see how that works.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Excellent.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So Claria Zoom has many,[br]many other options

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as you can see here on the top.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There is also the pull-down display[br]for the other options

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and you can see how big that appears.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I wanted to provide you[br]with some initial experience

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
into Claria's zoom and how it can help[br]a low vision user.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So other great applications[br]that we have seen

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and received great feedback[br]from low vision users

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
are applications such as the[br]Dragon Mobile Assistant

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
for voice command.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It works very well and is very popular.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There is also the IDEAL magnifier[br]that can be used literally for anything;

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
correct?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We have the phone built-in camera[br]that is actually picking up

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
whatever the user would like to see.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Magnified is a part of the --

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I don't know, from a magazine[br]or something like that,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
or some instructions on a product[br]or a packaging, and so on.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Moving to great applications[br]such as the Giganticon,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that one is actually very interesting.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It is somehow like only one part[br]of Claria Zoom,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so the only thing, in quotes,[br]that it does is actually, all the –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
all the application icons[br]that we have seen are here

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on the home screen.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Selected icons can then be included[br]into Giganticon will show up

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on the screen making it much easier[br]for users to navigate.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I am trying to accelerate the pace[br]in order to make sure

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
we have enough time[br]for the remaining sections

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and also for questions and answers.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But I believe between Jerry's[br]very detailed presentation of Talkback,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and some of the specific options[br]for low vision users,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think the overall accessibility for users[br]who are blind or low vision

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is very, very helpful.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So moving to the next part

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is the accessibility[br]for Deaf and hard of hearing users.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There are multiple built-in options[br]such as captions.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We see text messages are very popular[br]among users.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There are options for users[br]who are deaf in one ear,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so there is an adjustment for the audio

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so that purely mono audio[br]is being streamed.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And then also, when you are talking[br]about notifications

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
there are great notifications

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that can be utilized[br]as pop-up notifications

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and there is incoming e-mail or[br]text messages notifications

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as well as vibration.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So when you are talking about captions,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think that it is something that is[br]very easy to show here.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And you can see here,[br]it can be accessed as always.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And you have multiple options[br]to adjust the language settings

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as well as the text size.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Currently the text size is very large.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And the text size can be changed[br]to normal.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And you can see it is[br]significantly smaller,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so it does show right away[br]what the text size will be

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as well as the caption style.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So many options that are available[br]on the captions.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Mono audio I mentioned.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
That is also very, very helpful.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Then we are looking into

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
a significant selection[br]of third-party applications

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
such as closed-caption players.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
The Pro Deaf translator is really a very,[br]very interesting application

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that can help individuals who are deaf[br]for an in-person communication

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
if they are trying to communicate[br]to someone who doesn't know ASL.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I hope it will work now here[br]with screen sharing.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But this is actually very, very nice.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So basically users can type in[br]a certain word,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and the solution will convert that[br]into ASL.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: Cool.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: So it just illustrates[br]how many options are out there,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that there are many, many developers[br]who are trying to come up

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
with some great solutions.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Now, I think what is most relevant

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
for individuals who are deaf[br]or hard-of-hearing,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
if we are talking about smartphones[br]and tablets

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and if we are talking about[br]communication,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that is all the tools that are available[br]related to relay services.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So if you are talking about[br]Hamilton CapTel, solutions like that,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
or clear caption,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
those will work very well[br]on Android devices.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And I think, Robert, you wanted[br]to mention something

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that is also new applications[br]on the development?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: Yes.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There's a couple of exciting[br]new applications

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that are being developed[br]that aren't quite available yet

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but are worth mentioning[br]and teasing a little bit about.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
First of all, there's an application[br]available

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
-- or that will be available soon –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that will allow the user[br]of an Android phone –

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it won't be available at least initially[br]on iPhone -

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it will allow the person to take[br]an audiogram with their device

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and then all the output that comes[br]from the device will be adjusted,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so the pitch will be adjusted[br]based on the audiogram.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So basically the phone will be acting[br]to a significant extent like a hearing aid.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So when a person speaks on the phone,[br]they won't be hearing that normal tone;

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the pitch and so forth will be adjusted[br]based on that audiogram.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So in a sense, the need for hearing aids[br]when people speak on the phone

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
will be significantly reduced.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And we are expecting that to come out[br]within the next two months,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
which is really, really exciting.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Another app that is being developed,[br]and we just tested it the other day,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is a service that captions[br]ongoing phone calls.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So the calling party and the called party,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
if they have this app on their device,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
whatever either party says[br]will be transcribed visibly

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on the device using the regular dialer,[br]without a communications assistant.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So basically they will be using[br]speech-to-text.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
The speech-to-text engine of Google –[br]to provide the transcription,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
instead of the CA in the middle.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And we actually tested this this last week[br]and it works amazingly well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And like I said, one of the amazing things[br]about it,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
if you simply use your regular dialer,[br]you don't need to download

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
any sort of fancy app[br]or anything like that.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
These are things which are coming,[br]both of which will be unique to Android.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: Thank you, Robert.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There is one more application[br]that is very, very interesting.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I found this very, very helpful.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
This is actually the application[br]called TextHear,[br]which is an application that provides[br]speech-to-text transcription.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Text Hear. It can be installed[br]on any Android device,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and it will actually be providing[br]a live text-to-speech transcription.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So it works very well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
The device needs to be online[br]so that it can be supported.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
As mentioned, I have used it[br]on multiple occasions

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
when there was no interpreter available,[br]and it did work very well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Robert Felgar: And one last point[br]about 3rd party apps.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
All the major VRS and caption apps[br]that are available for iOS

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
are also available for Android,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so all the large VRS companies[br]like Sorenson and Purple and so on,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
they both have both Android[br]and iOS applications.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Nermin Selimic: So we were talking

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so much about[br]different 3rd party applications,

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and there are literally tens of thousands[br]of accessibility applications out there.

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Many are truly exceptional,[br]they work very well.

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Others are rather disappointing;

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they don't work at all[br]or they are not reliable, so on.

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So here at RAZ Mobility in order to make[br]things easier for consumers,

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we did initiate an effort

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that resulted in the RAZ[br]Mobility application installer app.

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Can you share, Robert, some info[br]about RAZ Mobility's application?

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>> Robert Felgar: Yes.

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The application is essentially[br]a list and description

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of all the applications that we felt

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were helpful to people[br]with various types of disabilities.

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So we just turned on the application.

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You can see that there are[br]a number of categories such as

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hearing, vision, speech and cognition.

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And let's say you have a –[br]you are hard of hearing or you are deaf.

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You click or tap on the hearing category,[br]and then you can see

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a number of the suggested applications

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for people that are[br]hard of hearing or deaf.

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And we've gone through all of those

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and kind of separated the wheat[br]from the chaff, if you know what I mean,[br]and tested the ones we think[br]are really good

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and gotten rid of those apps that[br]we did not think are actually helpful.

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Then you can see with vision,

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there's a similar list of applications[br]that we recommend.

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And then, if you tap on[br]one of these applications,[br]let's say Braille --

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>> Nermin Selimic: That has[br]to be installed.

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That one has not been installed.

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>> Robert Felgar: Okay. I will tap on[br]Giganticon –

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it takes you to the Play Store[br]where the app can be downloaded

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and the app will be installed.

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It is available on the Google Play Store.

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You can download it or try it simply[br]by typing in RAZ Mobility, and it's free.

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>> Nermin Selimic: So it's on Google Play,

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just to search for RAZ Mobility[br]on Google Play and it will show up.

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So it provides a great selection,[br]as mentioned,

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and it makes the installation very easy.

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If users have the RAZ Mobility app,[br]open the app, select the category,

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find one of the recommended apps,

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and the next step is just to install[br]the app, and they are actually done.

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And we are also updating[br]the list of applications,

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adding some new applications.

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We have seen in some cases,[br]in some applications we have,

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because they stopped performing[br]as well as they did in the past.

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But we are adding more applications.

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Also a disclaimer.

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Most of the applications[br]that we have selected

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in the RAZ Mobility store[br]are free applications.

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There are some applications[br]that do require a payment.

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And we did label such applications[br]accordingly.

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So just before we move[br]to the Q&A part of our Webinar today,

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Robert, any closing remarks[br]related to Android methods

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that you would like to provide?

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>> Robert Felgar: I just want to say[br]that Android accessibility

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has really come a long way[br]over the years.

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There was a perception for a long time[br]that Android was behind iOS,

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and TalkBack wasn't as good[br]as Voiceover.

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But I think you see –[br]saw from Jerry's presentation

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that you can do pretty much everything[br]on Android using TalkBack

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as you can with Voiceover in the iOS

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and they are really quick[br]and comparable in many respects.

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Furthermore there is a Google team[br]that is working on TalkBack constantly.

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Like I said, the next version, 5.2.0,[br]came out last week,

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and I am sure they already started[br]working on the next version.

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So for six months or so

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there are important updates[br]or improvements

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so we are expecting[br]continued improvements,

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and Google is constantly investing[br]in new accessibility features

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with each release.

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>> Nermin Selimic: Thanks, Robert.

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So we are moving now to[br]questions and answers.

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Please feel free to ask[br]any type of questions.

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In case there are questions[br]that we cannot answer immediately,

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we will be more than glad to follow up

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with you and either reach out to you[br]or provide answers via e-mail.

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I know that some questions[br]were coming into the chat option[br]in the conferencing tool.

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So I don't have access to all of them[br]at this time.

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It's just a little bit challenging[br]to formulate all of that.

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So please feel free to ask[br]such questions now.

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So hit the mute button[br]and unmute yourself,[br]or we will be following up with you[br]by e-mail

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and answer all of your questions.

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>> Hi, this is Sarah from[br]the Minnesota TED program.

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I have a question.[br]>> Sure, Sarah.

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>> I was just wondering,[br]you guys have the

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-- let's see here -- you called it[br]the RAZ Mobility installer app,

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or installer.

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How do you determine[br]if a specific accessible app

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is good for that person with disability?

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Do you have people with disabilities[br]test the devices?

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Like what is your criteria?

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>> Nermin Selimic: So, here is[br]the following process, Sarah,

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that we have.

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Yes, people with disabilities,[br]it is relevant, and they do ask –

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we do ask people in focus groups[br]to provide feedback.

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We also ask does it work,[br]and is it relevant and helpful for them?

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Even before that,[br]and what we have seen is necessary,

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is to test apps for their functionality[br]and reliability.

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There have been certain apps[br]which really have some issues.

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I would say the concept is great.[br]They can be very helpful.

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But, you know, in real life, they don't –[br]they simply don't perform,

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from a technical standpoint.

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Their reliability is not there,[br]or their performance is a little bit –

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it works on Mondays[br]but not on Tuesdays,

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for whatever reason.

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So these are the two most important[br]avenues that we look at

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when we are trying to come up[br]with the recommendation.

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>> Robert Felgar: Also, Sarah,[br]and there is a flexibility app.

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Let's say for your program

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you want add different app[br]to be installed

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or an additional app

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and we have the flexibility to do that[br]for individual programs.

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>> Sarah: Okay. Thank you.

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>> Nermin Selimic: I think there was[br]a question here asked in the chat room.

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What about features for people[br]with learning disabilities?

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That is an excellent question.

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Yes, there are features and especially[br]there are 3rd party applications

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for people with specific[br]cognitive disabilities.

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And if you take a look[br]at the RAZ Mobility installer application,

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you can see here that our category[br]does exist for cognition,

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and its application such as[br]the autism express or ACSE for autism

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so there are applications for people[br]with learning disabilities as well.

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(Pause).

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>> Sorry. It's Sally.

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With iOS, they have the rotor capability

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where if you are surfing the web,[br]for example,

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you can select [br]what your swipes would do.

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For example, going by heading or link.

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Does the feature exist with TalkBack?

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>> Nermin Selimic: Let's see if we still[br]have Jerry on the phone,

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I think if he is, he is the best person[br]to answer that question.

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Jerry, are you still on the call?

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>> Robert Felgar: Okay, looks like[br]he's not there.

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But I am virtually positive –[br]although I am not --

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>> Jerry Jicha: I am here.

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>> Robert Felgar: Oh, you are, Jerry.[br]Could you answer that question, please?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: In my case, yes,[br]there actually is a gesture

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that will do things like paragraph,[br]line, character.

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And when you are in the web browser,[br]it will do things like heading.

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And all you have to do to that gesture[br]is -- give me one moment here –

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you just do like a swipe down.[br]>> VOICE: Words, line. Paragraph.[br]Default.

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>> Jerry Jicha: See? So default is[br]the default action.

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But let's say I were to highlight[br]an item -- real quick -- work me MDM.

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>> VOICE: Actions reduced, characters.

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>> Jerry Jicha: So if I swiped it[br]right right now --

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>> VOICE: W O R K –

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>> Jerry Jicha: As you see,

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it will actually read it[br]character by character,

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because I changed what the swipe does.

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I hope that answers that question.

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>> It does. Thank you.

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>> Robert Felgar: It's not rotor, is it?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
>> Jerry Jicha: It is a rotor in the sense[br]that when you do a down gesture –

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because the up gesture does[br]the opposite way –

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then you go through a list of options.

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Then you check the one you want.

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So it is a rotor sort of,

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but you don't have to like[br]turn your fingers on the screen[br]to access it.

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You can just do like a swipe up[br]or a swipe down.

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As you saw me do earlier –[br]maybe you saw it -- I was flipping down. And if I flick up --

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>> VOICE: Paragraph right word[br]paragraph

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>> Jerry Jicha: See, it is actually going[br]backwards through the list,

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so it is actually a rotor in that sense.

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>> Robert Felgar: Thank you, Jerry.

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>> Jerry Jicha: And Sally, if you like,

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we can summarize and provide[br]the exact response via e-mail.

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>> Sally: Thank you very much.

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>> Nermin Selimic: Are there[br]any other questions at this time?

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>> What about specifically[br]for deaf-blind?

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Are there -- sorry.

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Do you have things that are specifically[br]for deaf-blind?

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>> Robert Felgar: Well, we don't have[br]any applications

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that are specifically for deaf-blind.

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They are either for one or the other.

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You know, obviously Braille,[br]a Braille display can be used

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
by individuals who are deaf-blind[br]and you've got BrailleBack.

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But we don't have anything that is[br]unique that is intended for both,

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that I am aware of, on Android.

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>> Nermin Selimic: And I assume[br]you are referring to a scenario of –

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yes, I think your answer is all right.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There is nothing that has been[br]developed specifically for the deaf-blind

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other than the BrailleBack.

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>> Robert Felgar:Right.

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>> And what about answering[br]telephones,

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if you have a physical disability[br]where you can't actually –

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you know, somebody who has –[br]is a quadriplegic.

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How could they answer a phone call?

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>> Nermin Selimic: Excellent question.

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Today we were focused around[br]vision and hearing

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as the backdrop of disability.

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There are additional products[br]offered by RAZ Mobility.

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In particular, I would mention[br]two other types of disabilities.

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There's actually speech impairment

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and also individuals[br]with mobility disabilities.

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And going back to your question,[br]there is a solution that we are offering

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which is called Sesame solution.

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That provides the opportunity to people[br]who cannot control their hands for,

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you know, typical reasons[br]we have seen,

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like connected with the service,[br]the VA, in the area of amputees,

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for instance; amputees, so on,[br]returning from the Armed Services.

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So controlling any smartphone or tablet,[br]any Android smartphone or tablet,

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they can control them[br]either by their head movement

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or through an extended range[br]of voice commands.

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So they can easily answer[br]an incoming call by simply saying

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"Sesame, answer the call."[br]Or "End call."

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They can open up applications,[br]they can type text messages,

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by using this specific solution that[br]consists of an Android mobile device,

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a selected Android mobile device,

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and special software[br]that is installed on it.

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No other equipment is needed

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and it actually uses the device[br]that is built in camera

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in order to track the user's[br]head movement.

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And it worked very well[br]even in scenarios

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where users had limited[br]head movement.

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>> Robert Felgar: And that's[br]an example of a solution, again,

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that is only available[br]on the Android platform.

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It can't be built for iOS.

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>> Nermin Selimic: Does that[br]answer your question?

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>> Yes. Thank you very much.

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>> Robert Felgar: Any other questions?

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>> Nermin Selimic: Please feel free[br]at any time

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to reach out to RAZ Mobility.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
You can reach out through our –

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many of you have Robert's[br]or my contact.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Now you can reach out to us also[br]info@RAZmobility.com.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So please feel free to reach out to us[br]for additional questions via e-mail

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
or just give us a call at any time.

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We would be more than glad to answer[br]any additional questions.

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>> May I make a real quick comment?

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>> Nermin Selimic: Yes, please.

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>> Jerry Jicha: It's Jerry.

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One thing also, because I know[br]someone had asked something

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
a while back[br]and I couldn't say anything at the time.

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They had asked, let's just use blind,[br]for example,

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do blind people test the apps[br]that are for blind people?

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I think Robert can even tell you,[br]Nermin is still getting used to me,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but Robert can definitely tell you,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
there have been several times[br]where I have gotten ahold of him

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because I am actually totally blind,[br]I have no sight whatsoever,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and if an app comes out,[br]either he'll tell me to test it

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or I have gotten ahold of him to say[br]hey, Robert, this app is junk,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
or hey, Robert, this app is cool,[br]it's something we should look into.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But to kind of help put[br]some people's minds at ease, yes

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People like me do test apps to see,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
do they work, do they do the job[br]they are supposed to do?

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And is it easy to use?

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>> Robert Felgar: Yes. Thank you, Jerry,[br]and also, as Jerry can say,

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if you want to look up a particular app[br]and its accessibility,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
a great place for people who are blind[br]is the eyes-free Google group

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
which has a huge number of users

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and there is constant conversation[br]about the best apps and alternatives

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and so forth.

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So that is a great avenue to learn[br]about accessible apps.

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>> Nermin Selimic: So we are now[br]at 3:01 p.m. Eastern.

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We did exhaust the full 120 minutes.

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I was hoping that we would be able[br]to complete it in 90 minutes.

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It was a very lengthy session.

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But I hope that it was at least[br]interesting, if it was long.

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Thanks again for the great interest

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in the RAZ Mobility Webinar[br]about Android accessibility.

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Thanks for dialing in,[br]for joining the session.

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We truly appreciate your time.

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We hope that you were able to learn[br]many new things

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or to get answers to some[br]of your questions

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and expand your knowledge[br]about Android accessibility.

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As mentioned, the Webinar will be[br]available as a recorded session.

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We will be sending out an info[br]with the appropriate links.

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We are also excited about[br]additional Webinars that will be hosted

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over the next period of time[br]related to some of our new products

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or some additional accessibility features.

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So we hope to have you[br]as a participant

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on some of the next[br]RAZ Mobility Webinars as well.

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Thank you very much for your time[br]and have a great rest of the week.

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>> Robert Felgar: Thank you, everybody.