0:00:09.459,0:00:14.751 I chose a profession that allows me[br]to go places you can't go. 0:00:14.763,0:00:17.503 I am a photojournalist. 0:00:17.504,0:00:20.266 My job is also sometimes to show you 0:00:20.267,0:00:24.262 things you don't want to see. 0:00:24.263,0:00:29.261 Ironically, my job is[br]to show you the gray areas. 0:00:29.262,0:00:33.018 For me, it all started[br]in Afghanistan in 2004. 0:00:33.019,0:00:38.036 I showed up very biased,[br]full of preconceived ideas, 0:00:38.037,0:00:41.261 and honestly, that worked well for me. 0:00:41.262,0:00:45.761 The next year, I got caught[br]in a suicide bombing. 0:00:45.762,0:00:49.993 Miraculously I came out uninjured, 0:00:49.994,0:00:52.802 but I got a tough reality check. 0:00:53.722,0:00:59.248 In 2006 I was embedded with U.S. soldiers. 0:00:59.249,0:01:00.770 I didn't know them, 0:01:00.771,0:01:03.776 but I couldn't stand them, I hated them. 0:01:03.777,0:01:09.541 For me they were brutes[br]who were mistreating the Afghans. 0:01:09.542,0:01:13.253 Stuck there together, we waited. 0:01:13.254,0:01:15.965 We waited for something to happen, 0:01:15.966,0:01:20.528 and eventually, I started[br]to think they were nice, funny, 0:01:20.529,0:01:23.760 I started to become attached to them. 0:01:23.761,0:01:29.033 But one evening Mike, at only 19,[br]burst out laughing and told me: 0:01:29.034,0:01:32.511 "Once I fired a missile at a guy. 0:01:32.512,0:01:34.629 I thought he was a member of the Taliban. 0:01:34.630,0:01:38.264 He turned into a flaming torch[br]and ran around like a crazy chicken." 0:01:38.265,0:01:40.735 Everyone laughed, 0:01:40.736,0:01:44.510 but it didn't make me laugh. 0:01:44.511,0:01:49.261 Yet, I came to realize that with time,[br]war dehumanizes the enemy 0:01:49.271,0:01:53.253 and makes the person[br]on the other mean nothing. 0:01:53.254,0:01:58.500 And yet, I met that person[br]on the other side. 0:01:58.501,0:02:03.668 Eric de la Varenne, Claire Billet, and I[br]were the first westerners 0:02:03.686,0:02:06.273 to meet members of the Taliban. 0:02:06.292,0:02:10.264 Claire and I had to wear our burkas. 0:02:10.265,0:02:13.275 Here's my secret to make[br]the fenced-in vision more bearable, 0:02:13.276,0:02:15.023 I have a little trick. 0:02:15.024,0:02:18.522 I crank my iPod up the whole way[br]with Madonna's "Like a virgin." 0:02:18.523,0:02:21.771 That's my little revenge. 0:02:21.772,0:02:25.030 After a long road traveled in silence 0:02:25.031,0:02:27.783 and in sweltering heat, 0:02:27.784,0:02:33.505 finally, there they were,[br]it was really them. 0:02:33.506,0:02:36.268 The young soldiers come towards us 0:02:36.269,0:02:39.750 and welcome us with cakes and juice, 0:02:39.751,0:02:43.491 and then start taking selfies[br]with us and laughing. 0:02:43.492,0:02:47.000 They used their limited[br]supply of English words, 0:02:47.001,0:02:49.520 we all ended up relaxing,[br]and all of a sudden 0:02:49.521,0:02:53.249 (Music) 0:02:53.250,0:02:55.791 one of their ringtones. 0:02:55.792,0:02:57.041 (Laughter) 0:02:57.042,0:02:59.512 These were the Taliban? 0:02:59.513,0:03:03.082 In reality, I was most shocked 0:03:03.083,0:03:09.458 by the things the young American GIs[br]and the young insurgents had in common. 0:03:09.473,0:03:15.504 So I made a choice that may be offensive[br]or unsettling, but that I find relevant 0:03:15.505,0:03:19.496 to highlight the similarities[br]of these enemies, 0:03:19.497,0:03:24.499 even though these enemies[br]don't think of each other as people. 0:03:24.500,0:03:30.523 But it's a war,[br]and in a war, there are victims. 0:03:30.524,0:03:32.526 August 18, 2008, 0:03:32.542,0:03:38.280 ten French soldiers and their fixer[br]were killed in an ambush in Uzbin. 0:03:38.281,0:03:42.766 I was sent to cover the Afghan side. 0:03:42.767,0:03:46.011 Experience has taught me[br]that after every attack, 0:03:46.012,0:03:48.508 there is an air strike retaliation. 0:03:48.509,0:03:53.273 Three villages near where[br]the ambush took place were bombed. 0:03:53.274,0:03:58.125 There were casualties,[br]civilian casualties. 0:03:59.755,0:04:04.797 I had to go to the site, but the zone[br]was controlled by the Taliban, 0:04:04.798,0:04:08.509 so I had to request their permission. 0:04:08.510,0:04:10.500 And it starts all over again: 0:04:10.501,0:04:14.252 a burka, a long road, an escort, 0:04:14.258,0:04:17.761 and anxiety, I'm scared. 0:04:17.762,0:04:20.764 And all of a sudden, there are[br]silhouettes descending the hill. 0:04:20.765,0:04:22.812 It's them. 0:04:24.242,0:04:28.260 I explain my plan to the leader,[br]but he refuses. 0:04:28.261,0:04:33.513 I insist, and then I notice[br]that one of them 0:04:33.514,0:04:36.754 is carrying a weapon[br]that seems really modern. 0:04:36.755,0:04:39.262 I ask him what it is. 0:04:39.263,0:04:45.279 He replies that it's one of the weapons[br]taken from the body of a slain soldier. 0:04:47.246,0:04:49.498 In fact, without knowing it, 0:04:49.499,0:04:55.020 I had come face to face with[br]the insurgents responsible for the ambush. 0:04:57.780,0:05:01.764 So, for taking the photos you just saw, 0:05:01.765,0:05:04.239 I received death threats. 0:05:04.240,0:05:07.255 My parents received terrible letters, 0:05:07.256,0:05:09.752 and they even lost friends. 0:05:09.753,0:05:14.764 I was accused of having paid[br]the Taliban 50,000 euros 0:05:14.765,0:05:18.221 which of course is stupid[br]and completely unrealistic. 0:05:18.222,0:05:22.530 For one thing, for ethical reasons[br]we never pay the people we photograph. 0:05:22.531,0:05:27.773 Secondly, our reporters never walk around[br]with that much money on them. 0:05:27.774,0:05:32.278 I have also been accused[br]of spreading their propaganda. 0:05:32.279,0:05:34.508 On that point, let's be clear. 0:05:34.509,0:05:39.007 Whenever a group,[br]whether it's the Taliban or even the army, 0:05:39.008,0:05:41.752 decides to give a journalist[br]some of their time, 0:05:41.753,0:05:45.251 you can be sure they have[br]a message to get across. 0:05:45.252,0:05:48.257 I have also been accused[br]of being unpatriotic 0:05:48.258,0:05:50.775 or of betraying my country. 0:05:50.776,0:05:56.270 Why? Because I dared[br]to show the enemy's face? 0:05:56.271,0:05:59.769 Well, I don't believe I disrespected[br]the lives of the fallen soldiers, 0:05:59.770,0:06:03.779 although I understand that it[br]could be difficult for their families, 0:06:03.780,0:06:06.049 yet some parents thanked me 0:06:06.050,0:06:09.749 because they were longing[br]for the truth even if it hurt. 0:06:11.249,0:06:13.738 In no way do I seek to justify 0:06:13.739,0:06:16.764 the horrible acts[br]committed by the Taliban. 0:06:16.765,0:06:20.270 I just want to give you[br]as much information as I can 0:06:20.271,0:06:24.046 so you can have the facts[br]to come to your own conclusions. 0:06:25.242,0:06:27.510 It's true it would be simpler 0:06:27.511,0:06:30.513 if everyone in the world[br]was either a good guy or a bad guy, 0:06:30.514,0:06:35.263 but this is war, and in war,[br]that's rarely the case. 0:06:35.264,0:06:38.250 War is neither black nor white, 0:06:38.251,0:06:41.272 it's dirty, it's gray. 0:06:42.247,0:06:47.496 In fact, I've seen these gray areas[br]in many other countries. 0:06:47.497,0:06:50.784 In particular in the Niger delta, 0:06:50.785,0:06:53.495 an area ruined by oil. 0:06:53.496,0:06:56.759 Nothing grows there,[br]and there's nothing to fish. 0:06:56.760,0:07:01.504 Meanwhile, the local rulers[br]fill their pockets. 0:07:01.505,0:07:07.495 That's when MEND came along: the Movement[br]for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta. 0:07:07.496,0:07:12.334 They hide out in the mangrove swamp,[br]and their thing is kidnapping, 0:07:12.335,0:07:17.077 attacking oil rigs, and controlling[br]the black market for oil. 0:07:19.000,0:07:23.209 Both Manon Quérouil,[br]the journalist I work with, and I 0:07:23.209,0:07:26.501 really wanted to meet Ateke, 0:07:26.508,0:07:30.260 one of the big leaders of these[br]modern day so-called Robin Hoods. 0:07:30.261,0:07:34.081 So, as you can see, the Robin Hood[br]we ended up meeting 0:07:34.082,0:07:37.763 was short, chubby, and uninspiring. 0:07:39.042,0:07:44.167 He welcomed us sprawled out on his sofa[br]with a lukewarm bottle of Veuve Clicquot. 0:07:45.278,0:07:48.790 In fact, for some time now,[br]things are much easier for them 0:07:48.791,0:07:52.008 because they are paid directly[br]by the oil companies 0:07:52.009,0:07:53.511 so they won't attack them. 0:07:53.512,0:07:58.760 So they have lots of cash,[br]and they're just bored. 0:07:58.761,0:08:02.003 Girls from the area, drawn by[br]the goose with the golden eggs, 0:08:02.004,0:08:04.259 come to entertain these men. 0:08:04.260,0:08:09.776 Incidentally, this little chubby man[br]fell for my friend. 0:08:09.777,0:08:12.082 I had to be the big sister,[br]and explain to him 0:08:12.083,0:08:14.756 that in France we get married[br]before we sleep together. 0:08:14.757,0:08:17.481 Well, he seemed a little doubtful, 0:08:17.482,0:08:19.755 but he finally accepted[br]to send us back to town 0:08:19.756,0:08:22.219 so we could have a girls' shopping trip. 0:08:22.220,0:08:26.418 Needless to say, Ateke is still[br]waiting for his runaway fiancee. 0:08:27.508,0:08:31.750 Ateke, who was[br]long public enemy number one, 0:08:31.751,0:08:36.748 today is a close friend[br]of the new president, Jonathan Goodluck, 0:08:36.749,0:08:41.260 and, apparently, one[br]of the country's wealthiest men. 0:08:41.261,0:08:45.849 So in fact these Robin Hoods,[br]are just regular thugs? 0:08:47.250,0:08:51.542 Black and white is for fairy tales,[br]real life comes in color. 0:08:51.566,0:08:55.986 It's more troubling, more complicated,[br]but it's more interesting. 0:08:57.265,0:09:02.246 And Nigeria is very familiar[br]with these complex situations. 0:09:02.250,0:09:07.667 I was able to see this again working[br]on a report in the north on Boko Haram. 0:09:09.238,0:09:12.999 Manon and I were not able to meet them, 0:09:13.000,0:09:17.453 but we came to realize[br]that Boko Haram's roots 0:09:17.454,0:09:21.508 were much more complex[br]and much older than they seemed. 0:09:21.509,0:09:26.965 In fact, for over ten years now,[br]a real war is being waged 0:09:26.966,0:09:31.291 between the Nigerian army[br]and Boko Haram. 0:09:31.292,0:09:34.782 And it's a war without mercy;[br]an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. 0:09:34.783,0:09:39.798 The Nigerian army burns madrassas,[br]Boko Haram burns schools. 0:09:39.799,0:09:42.756 The Nigerian army abducts[br]women and children 0:09:42.757,0:09:45.525 suspected to have ties[br]with members of the sect, 0:09:45.526,0:09:48.511 Boko Haram abducts young girls. 0:09:49.751,0:09:51.947 The truth is that the north of the country 0:09:51.948,0:09:56.285 was completely abandoned[br]by the government in the south. 0:09:56.286,0:10:00.515 The northerners, left to their[br]own defenses, naturally, became resentful. 0:10:00.516,0:10:06.044 Boko Haram took advantage[br]of this resentment to draw in the youth; 0:10:06.045,0:10:10.508 and the near criminal behavior[br]of this corrupt army 0:10:10.509,0:10:15.586 led to a series of abominations[br]each one more tragic than the last, 0:10:15.587,0:10:20.256 until, as we all remember,[br]the abduction of 219 high school girls 0:10:20.257,0:10:24.237 that finally managed to get our attention. 0:10:24.238,0:10:28.764 So, let us be clear:[br]nothing we were able to discover 0:10:28.765,0:10:33.520 justified the abduction[br]and enslavement of young girls. 0:10:33.521,0:10:38.335 Seeking out the enemy[br]does not mean defending them, 0:10:38.336,0:10:43.512 and I do not want to become a spokesperson[br]for the Taliban, MEND, or Boko Haram. 0:10:43.513,0:10:48.635 I am in no way trying to justify[br]or defend their revolting actions, 0:10:48.636,0:10:51.551 I just want to allow you[br]to understand them better, 0:10:51.552,0:10:57.275 so you might have the knowledge,[br]to think in an informed manner. 0:10:57.276,0:10:59.251 Because I believe that sometimes, 0:10:59.252,0:11:03.788 knowing more, understanding better,[br]helps in finding the solution, 0:11:03.789,0:11:06.513 and that many errors[br]could have been avoided 0:11:06.514,0:11:10.233 with a better understanding[br]of the people and the territory. 0:11:10.234,0:11:13.522 So we clearly see that black[br]and white doesn't work 0:11:13.523,0:11:19.519 because in Afghanistan, the youth fighting[br]on both sides are not that different. 0:11:20.705,0:11:25.775 Because MEND and other Robin Hoods[br]are thugs like any other, 0:11:25.776,0:11:30.522 because the roots of Boko Haram[br]are very complex. 0:11:30.523,0:11:35.909 So, it's true that black and white[br]is nicer, it's more elegant, 0:11:35.910,0:11:38.514 but it's simplistic,[br]and most of all, it's false. 0:11:38.515,0:11:44.631 Color is not an absolute, it's[br]more blurred, but it's closer to reality. 0:11:44.632,0:11:48.525 So I want to continue[br]to introduce you to these insurgents, 0:11:48.526,0:11:51.759 these revolutionaries, these terrorists, 0:11:51.760,0:11:56.785 so that you can come[br]to informed conclusions. 0:11:58.775,0:12:02.761 That is why we reporters are there, 0:12:02.762,0:12:05.515 and sometimes risk our lives. 0:12:05.516,0:12:08.772 We go where you cannot go, 0:12:08.773,0:12:13.417 show you what, sometimes,[br]you don't want to see. 0:12:13.418,0:12:17.261 You have a right to know[br]the truth, so demand it. 0:12:17.262,0:12:18.854 (Applause)