WEBVTT 00:00:07.500 --> 00:00:12.320 [Kiki Smith: The Fabric Workshop] 00:00:19.616 --> 00:00:21.518 I made this blanket... 00:00:23.537 --> 00:00:26.083 I guess about two years ago now, 00:00:26.083 --> 00:00:27.793 at The Fabric Workshop. 00:00:27.977 --> 00:00:30.244 This one's backwards, also, but... 00:00:30.395 --> 00:00:31.883 It's just the way it goes. 00:00:31.883 --> 00:00:34.547 But, it was a big... 00:00:35.307 --> 00:00:36.836 They’re on a Jacquard-- 00:00:36.836 --> 00:00:39.036 made on a Jacquard loom. 00:00:39.036 --> 00:00:41.191 And then fulled, 00:00:41.191 --> 00:00:43.743 which means they rip the surface like that, 00:00:43.743 --> 00:00:46.998 so it's fuzzy like a Canadian blanket, kind of. 00:00:46.998 --> 00:00:49.053 I'm making a show at The Fabric Workshop 00:00:49.053 --> 00:00:50.983 of housewares, or, 00:00:50.983 --> 00:00:53.246 rather than make art with it in a certain sense, 00:00:53.246 --> 00:00:55.076 make objects-- 00:00:55.076 --> 00:00:57.170 make daily life things. 00:00:57.513 --> 00:00:59.422 I have lots of ideas of things to make, 00:00:59.422 --> 00:01:00.509 but I'm not good at... 00:01:00.509 --> 00:01:01.784 I realize I'm good at doing 00:01:01.784 --> 00:01:03.717 what I can do in my own power, 00:01:03.717 --> 00:01:05.668 out of my own physicality. 00:01:05.668 --> 00:01:07.915 And then, like, a little extension out from that. 00:01:07.915 --> 00:01:10.547 But, I'm not good at, um... 00:01:10.547 --> 00:01:12.553 you know, to manufacture things. 00:01:12.553 --> 00:01:14.122 [SMITH, OFF-SCREEN] Yeah. No, here's my list. 00:01:15.074 --> 00:01:18.508 [The Fabric Workshop and Museum, Philadelphia, PA] 00:01:22.600 --> 00:01:23.399 [SMITH] Okay... 00:01:23.544 --> 00:01:24.667 [WOMAN, SUE PATTERSON, LAUGHS OFF-SCREEN] 00:01:24.667 --> 00:01:26.831 [SMITH] These are the things that are done. 00:01:27.330 --> 00:01:29.760 [PATTERSON OFF-SCREEN CONTINUES LAUGHING] Nothing like a mega-sized list! 00:01:30.674 --> 00:01:32.183 [PATTERSON] This is not the 'tuck in your shirt pocket' thing... 00:01:32.183 --> 00:01:34.508 [SMITH] I have twenty years of these. 00:01:34.969 --> 00:01:38.129 Okay, I have this big silver finger bowls. 00:01:38.129 --> 00:01:39.476 [PATTERSON] Mmm hmm. 00:01:39.476 --> 00:01:40.790 [SMITH] I have the packing blankets I made 00:01:40.790 --> 00:01:41.988 at The Mattress Factory. 00:01:41.988 --> 00:01:43.608 [PATTERSON] Yup, with the birds on them... 00:01:43.608 --> 00:01:45.176 [SMITH] "Tailbone A.D." 00:01:46.436 --> 00:01:49.604 Skull...the skull sculpture which is a doorstop. 00:01:49.604 --> 00:01:50.327 [PATTERSON] Yup. 00:01:50.715 --> 00:01:52.551 [PATTERSON] I've worked with Kiki 00:01:52.551 --> 00:01:54.425 probably over the last two-and-a-half years. 00:01:54.425 --> 00:01:56.993 I've worked at The Fabric Workshop for thirteen. 00:01:56.993 --> 00:01:58.174 So, to put that in context, 00:01:58.174 --> 00:01:59.435 I've worked with a lot of different people, 00:01:59.435 --> 00:02:00.107 So, it's sort of... 00:02:00.107 --> 00:02:01.999 You get a new experience each time. 00:02:01.999 --> 00:02:05.442 And she's primarily doing, with us, textile-related things. 00:02:05.582 --> 00:02:06.412 [Sue Patterson, Project Manager] 00:02:06.412 --> 00:02:08.874 Anything fabric-related, we can whip it up faster, 00:02:08.874 --> 00:02:10.305 and knock a screen of something off. 00:02:10.305 --> 00:02:12.395 So, she loves that facility. 00:02:13.079 --> 00:02:15.274 She appreciates working with people that have other skills 00:02:15.274 --> 00:02:17.199 that aren't available at her house. 00:02:17.756 --> 00:02:18.787 [MAN] Kiki? 00:02:19.505 --> 00:02:21.443 On the fabric, do you want them, like, 00:02:21.443 --> 00:02:22.905 straight up and down? 00:02:23.367 --> 00:02:24.683 [SMITH] Oh, I thought they were sort of 00:02:24.683 --> 00:02:26.735 going on an angle, aren't they? 00:02:26.735 --> 00:02:27.936 [MAN] Is that what you want? 00:02:27.936 --> 00:02:28.503 [SMITH] Yeah. 00:02:28.503 --> 00:02:29.148 [MAN] Okay. 00:02:29.148 --> 00:02:29.674 [SMITH] Yeah. 00:02:29.674 --> 00:02:30.873 [MAN] So assume, like, this... 00:02:30.873 --> 00:02:31.837 [SMITH] Let's see if you straighten it, 00:02:31.837 --> 00:02:33.156 what it looks like. 00:02:34.218 --> 00:02:37.156 No. It should go at an angle 00:02:37.156 --> 00:02:37.870 [MAN] Like that. 00:02:37.870 --> 00:02:38.520 [SMITH] Yeah. 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:39.168 [MAN] Okay. 00:02:43.184 --> 00:02:45.578 [PATTERSON] Kiki will be making a mixed bag of things. 00:02:46.551 --> 00:02:48.319 And some of those she's working on today. 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:49.411 The wallpaper is one. 00:02:49.411 --> 00:02:50.750 The coverlet... 00:02:50.750 --> 00:02:51.857 Another blanket is one. 00:02:51.857 --> 00:02:53.487 The little flip doll-- 00:02:53.487 --> 00:02:55.412 the owl-cat doll--is one. 00:02:55.412 --> 00:02:56.813 She's doing a bunch of 00:02:56.813 --> 00:02:59.442 cast-silver jewelry objects. 00:02:59.442 --> 00:03:02.350 A colander that has a constellation. 00:03:02.350 --> 00:03:04.689 And the wonderful thing about Kiki that I love 00:03:04.689 --> 00:03:08.413 is that she's making art twenty-four hours a day. 00:03:08.413 --> 00:03:09.813 It's like you go to her house, 00:03:09.813 --> 00:03:11.718 and there's everything all over the place. 00:03:11.718 --> 00:03:13.583 People are, you know, calling on the phone, 00:03:13.583 --> 00:03:15.610 and there's a pot of glue under the table, and... 00:03:15.610 --> 00:03:20.550 It's this really seamless experience for her-- 00:03:20.550 --> 00:03:22.487 That there's no border between 00:03:22.487 --> 00:03:25.211 going to the studio and making artwork. 00:03:25.211 --> 00:03:26.288 And that's really great, 00:03:26.288 --> 00:03:28.395 because it's just natural. 00:03:39.508 --> 00:03:42.444 [SMITH] It'll be a queen-sized bed blanket, so, 00:03:42.754 --> 00:03:45.842 it has the hands with the flowers there, 00:03:45.842 --> 00:03:47.350 and then the hands with the candles 00:03:47.350 --> 00:03:48.581 and the bird. 00:03:48.581 --> 00:03:50.888 And then the bottom part are the heads. 00:03:52.102 --> 00:03:56.393 The back side will be the weeping willows there. 00:04:01.416 --> 00:04:02.469 [SMITH] Perfect! 00:04:05.671 --> 00:04:07.087 It looks alright... 00:04:07.576 --> 00:04:10.435 I mean, it looks like wallpaper in... 00:04:10.435 --> 00:04:11.511 the kitchen. 00:04:11.511 --> 00:04:12.348 [LAUGHS] 00:04:13.838 --> 00:04:15.034 1960-something. 00:04:15.034 --> 00:04:16.350 [MAN] In the drawing room. In the drawing room. 00:04:16.350 --> 00:04:17.720 [SMITH] A la 1960s. 00:04:18.550 --> 00:04:19.958 It's just what I wanted... 00:04:19.958 --> 00:04:20.650 [MAN] Just what you need! 00:04:20.650 --> 00:04:23.326 [SMITH] Just what I wanted it to look like.