WEBVTT 00:00:24.831 --> 00:00:28.895 My students often ask me, "What is sociology?" 00:00:29.458 --> 00:00:33.810 And I tell them it's the study of the way in which human beings are shaped 00:00:33.834 --> 00:00:35.587 by things that they don't see. 00:00:36.401 --> 00:00:39.725 And they say, "So, how can I be a sociologist? 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:42.678 How can I understand those invisible forces?" 00:00:42.702 --> 00:00:44.230 And I say, "Empathy. 00:00:44.254 --> 00:00:46.354 Start with empathy. 00:00:46.378 --> 00:00:49.160 It all begins with empathy. 00:00:49.184 --> 00:00:50.940 Take yourself out of your shoes, 00:00:50.964 --> 00:00:53.608 put yourself into the shoes of another person." 00:00:53.632 --> 00:00:55.262 Here, I'll give you an example. 00:00:56.163 --> 00:00:59.567 So I imagine my life if, a hundred years ago, 00:00:59.591 --> 00:01:02.441 China had been the most powerful nation in the world 00:01:02.465 --> 00:01:05.952 and they came to the United States in search of coal. 00:01:05.976 --> 00:01:09.167 And they found it, and, in fact, they found lots of it right here. 00:01:09.191 --> 00:01:12.717 And pretty soon, they began shipping that coal, 00:01:12.741 --> 00:01:14.517 ton by ton, 00:01:14.541 --> 00:01:17.979 railcar by railcar, boatload by boatload, 00:01:18.003 --> 00:01:21.088 back to China and elsewhere around the world. 00:01:21.969 --> 00:01:24.219 And they got fabulously wealthy in doing so. 00:01:24.243 --> 00:01:26.576 And they built beautiful cities 00:01:26.600 --> 00:01:29.700 all powered on that coal. 00:01:31.512 --> 00:01:34.933 And back here in the United States, 00:01:36.314 --> 00:01:37.314 back here 00:01:37.357 --> 00:01:39.504 we saw economic despair, deprivation. 00:01:39.528 --> 00:01:40.976 This is what I saw. 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:43.631 I saw people struggling to get by, 00:01:43.655 --> 00:01:46.750 not knowing what was what and what was next. 00:01:48.074 --> 00:01:50.341 And I asked myself the question: 00:01:50.365 --> 00:01:53.695 How is it possible that we could be so poor here in the United States, 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.424 because coal is such a wealthy resource; it's so much money? 00:01:57.448 --> 00:01:58.608 And I realize: 00:01:58.632 --> 00:02:02.037 because the Chinese ingratiated themselves 00:02:02.061 --> 00:02:04.820 with a small ruling class here in the United States, 00:02:04.844 --> 00:02:08.382 who stole all of that money and all of that wealth for themselves. 00:02:09.030 --> 00:02:11.196 And the rest of us, the vast majority of us, 00:02:11.220 --> 00:02:12.485 struggle to get by. 00:02:12.989 --> 00:02:16.093 And the Chinese gave this small ruling elite 00:02:16.117 --> 00:02:19.486 loads of military weapons and sophisticated technology 00:02:19.510 --> 00:02:22.276 in order to ensure that people like me 00:02:22.300 --> 00:02:25.300 would not speak out against this relationship. 00:02:26.173 --> 00:02:27.609 Does this sound familiar? 00:02:29.045 --> 00:02:32.406 And they did things like train Americans to help protect the coal. 00:02:34.056 --> 00:02:37.294 And everywhere, there were symbols of the Chinese -- 00:02:37.318 --> 00:02:40.294 everywhere, a constant reminder. 00:02:40.831 --> 00:02:42.974 And back in China, 00:02:42.998 --> 00:02:44.324 what do they say in China? 00:02:44.348 --> 00:02:47.947 Nothing! They don't talk about us. They don't talk about the coal. 00:02:47.971 --> 00:02:49.161 If you ask them, 00:02:49.185 --> 00:02:51.576 they'll say, "Well, you know, we need the coal. 00:02:51.600 --> 00:02:54.798 I mean, come on, I'm not going to turn down my thermostat. 00:02:55.322 --> 00:02:56.727 You can't expect that." 00:02:58.074 --> 00:03:01.249 And so, I get angry, and I get pissed, 00:03:01.273 --> 00:03:03.586 as do lots of average people. 00:03:03.610 --> 00:03:06.152 And we fight back, and it gets really ugly. 00:03:06.176 --> 00:03:09.105 And the Chinese respond in a very ugly way. 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:13.515 And before we know it, they send in the tanks 00:03:13.539 --> 00:03:15.236 and they send in the troops. 00:03:15.882 --> 00:03:17.530 And lots of people are dying. 00:03:18.200 --> 00:03:21.951 And it's a very, very difficult situation. 00:03:24.641 --> 00:03:25.707 Can you feel me? 00:03:26.176 --> 00:03:29.223 Can you imagine what you would feel 00:03:29.247 --> 00:03:31.412 if you were in my shoes? 00:03:31.436 --> 00:03:33.761 Can you imagine walking out of this building 00:03:33.785 --> 00:03:35.603 and seeing a tank sitting out there, 00:03:35.627 --> 00:03:37.954 or a truck full of soldiers? 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:42.620 Just imagine what you would feel, because you know why they're here; 00:03:42.644 --> 00:03:44.290 you know what they're doing here. 00:03:44.314 --> 00:03:46.933 And you just feel the anger and you feel the fear. 00:03:47.874 --> 00:03:50.640 If you can, that's empathy. That's empathy. 00:03:50.664 --> 00:03:53.843 You've left your shoes, and you've stood in mine. 00:03:54.638 --> 00:03:56.453 And you've got to feel that. 00:03:56.477 --> 00:03:58.176 OK, so that's the warm-up. 00:03:58.556 --> 00:03:59.728 That's the warm-up. 00:03:59.752 --> 00:04:03.486 Now we're going to have the real radical experiment. 00:04:03.510 --> 00:04:07.176 So, for the remainder of my talk, what I want you to do 00:04:07.200 --> 00:04:11.788 is put yourselves in the shoes of an ordinary Arab Muslim 00:04:11.812 --> 00:04:13.541 living in the Middle East -- 00:04:13.565 --> 00:04:15.691 in particular, in Iraq. 00:04:17.843 --> 00:04:19.125 And so to help you, 00:04:19.771 --> 00:04:23.747 perhaps you're a member of this middle-class family in Baghdad. 00:04:24.104 --> 00:04:26.798 What you want is the best for your kids. 00:04:26.822 --> 00:04:28.799 You want your kids to have a better life. 00:04:28.823 --> 00:04:30.910 And you watch the news, you pay attention. 00:04:30.934 --> 00:04:34.488 You read the newspaper, you go down to the coffee shop with your friends, 00:04:34.512 --> 00:04:36.733 you read the newspapers from around the world. 00:04:36.757 --> 00:04:39.793 Sometimes you even watch satellite, CNN, from the United States. 00:04:39.817 --> 00:04:42.304 You have a sense of what the Americans are thinking. 00:04:42.328 --> 00:04:45.376 But really, you just want a better life for yourself. 00:04:45.400 --> 00:04:46.588 That's what you want. 00:04:46.945 --> 00:04:50.009 You're Arab Muslim living in Iraq. 00:04:50.033 --> 00:04:51.780 You want a better life for yourself. 00:04:51.804 --> 00:04:53.018 So here, let me help you. 00:04:53.042 --> 00:04:56.533 Let me help you with some things that you might be thinking. 00:04:56.557 --> 00:04:57.826 Number one: 00:04:57.850 --> 00:05:02.176 this incursion into your land these past 20 years and before -- 00:05:02.200 --> 00:05:04.319 the reason anyone is interested in your land, 00:05:04.343 --> 00:05:06.487 and particularly the United States, is oil. 00:05:06.511 --> 00:05:09.620 It's all about oil; you know that, everybody knows that. 00:05:09.644 --> 00:05:12.744 People back in the United States know it's about oil. 00:05:13.359 --> 00:05:18.457 It's because somebody else has a design for your resource. 00:05:18.481 --> 00:05:21.034 It's your resource -- it's not somebody else's. 00:05:21.058 --> 00:05:24.036 It's your land; it's your resource. 00:05:24.060 --> 00:05:25.733 Somebody else has a design for it. 00:05:26.378 --> 00:05:28.231 And you know why they have a design? 00:05:28.255 --> 00:05:30.352 You know why they have their eyes set on it? 00:05:30.376 --> 00:05:32.450 Because they have an entire economic system 00:05:32.474 --> 00:05:35.683 that's dependent on that oil -- foreign oil, 00:05:35.707 --> 00:05:38.333 oil from other parts of the world that they don't own. 00:05:39.347 --> 00:05:41.914 And what else do you think about these people? 00:05:41.938 --> 00:05:43.545 The Americans, they're rich. 00:05:43.570 --> 00:05:46.091 Come on, they live in big houses, they have big cars. 00:05:46.115 --> 00:05:48.515 They all have blond hair, blue eyes. They're happy. 00:05:48.539 --> 00:05:52.048 You think that. It's not true, of course, but that's the media impression. 00:05:52.072 --> 00:05:53.268 And that's what you get. 00:05:53.592 --> 00:05:54.800 And they have big cities, 00:05:54.824 --> 00:05:58.184 and the cities are all dependent on oil. 00:06:00.200 --> 00:06:02.176 And back home, what do you see? 00:06:02.200 --> 00:06:04.224 Poverty, despair, struggle. 00:06:04.716 --> 00:06:07.108 Look, you don't live in a wealthy country. 00:06:07.132 --> 00:06:09.704 I mean -- this is Iraq. 00:06:11.975 --> 00:06:13.267 This is what you see. 00:06:13.312 --> 00:06:15.626 You see people struggling to get by. 00:06:15.973 --> 00:06:18.042 It's not easy; you see a lot of poverty. 00:06:18.066 --> 00:06:19.733 And you feel something about this. 00:06:19.757 --> 00:06:21.854 These people have designs for your resource, 00:06:21.878 --> 00:06:23.183 and this is what you see? 00:06:23.818 --> 00:06:25.218 It doesn't feel good. 00:06:25.501 --> 00:06:28.326 But here, couple other things. 00:06:29.882 --> 00:06:31.994 Something else you see that you talk about -- 00:06:32.018 --> 00:06:34.228 Americans don't talk about this, but you do -- 00:06:34.252 --> 00:06:36.779 there's this thing, this militarization of the world, 00:06:36.803 --> 00:06:38.947 and it's centered right in the United States. 00:06:38.971 --> 00:06:40.845 And the United States is responsible 00:06:40.869 --> 00:06:45.524 for almost one half of the world's military spending. 00:06:46.364 --> 00:06:48.356 Four percent of the world's population! 00:06:48.380 --> 00:06:50.924 And you feel it; you see it every day. 00:06:50.948 --> 00:06:52.270 It's part of your life. 00:06:52.294 --> 00:06:55.072 And you talk about it with your friends. 00:06:55.096 --> 00:06:56.684 You read about it. 00:06:56.708 --> 00:06:59.939 And back when Saddam Hussein was in power, 00:07:00.586 --> 00:07:03.487 the Americans didn't care about his crimes. 00:07:03.511 --> 00:07:05.928 When he was gassing the Kurds and gassing Iran, 00:07:05.952 --> 00:07:07.427 they didn't care about it. 00:07:07.451 --> 00:07:09.530 When oil was at stake, 00:07:09.554 --> 00:07:13.014 somehow, suddenly, things mattered. 00:07:14.585 --> 00:07:16.987 And what you see, something else: 00:07:17.011 --> 00:07:18.797 the United States, 00:07:18.821 --> 00:07:20.930 the hub of democracy around the world -- 00:07:20.954 --> 00:07:24.593 they don't seem to really be supporting democratic countries 00:07:24.617 --> 00:07:26.504 all around the world. 00:07:26.528 --> 00:07:29.247 There are a lot of countries, oil-producing countries, 00:07:29.271 --> 00:07:32.499 that aren't very democratic, but supported by the United States. 00:07:33.230 --> 00:07:34.393 That's odd. 00:07:34.417 --> 00:07:38.117 Oh -- these incursions - here, let me help you 00:07:39.042 --> 00:07:42.054 these two wars, the 10 years of sanctions, 00:07:42.378 --> 00:07:46.196 the eight years of occupation, 00:07:46.473 --> 00:07:50.127 the insurgency that's been unleashed on your people, 00:07:50.151 --> 00:07:52.976 the tens of thousands, the hundreds of thousands 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:55.464 of civilian deaths? 00:07:58.214 --> 00:08:00.060 All because of oil. 00:08:00.928 --> 00:08:02.444 You can't help but think that. 00:08:02.888 --> 00:08:04.269 You talk about it. 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:07.476 It's in the forefront of your mind, always. 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:10.015 You say, "How is that possible?" 00:08:10.324 --> 00:08:11.324 Come on. 00:08:14.207 --> 00:08:16.628 And this man, he's everyman -- 00:08:17.700 --> 00:08:19.751 your grandfather, your uncle, 00:08:19.775 --> 00:08:21.838 your father, your son, your neighbor, 00:08:21.862 --> 00:08:23.507 your professor, your student. 00:08:24.092 --> 00:08:26.971 Once a life of happiness and joy 00:08:27.295 --> 00:08:29.312 and suddenly, pain and sorrow. 00:08:31.400 --> 00:08:37.614 Everyone in your country has been touched by the violence, 00:08:37.638 --> 00:08:40.722 the bloodshed, the pain, the horror -- everybody. 00:08:40.746 --> 00:08:45.920 Not a single person in your country has not been touched. 00:08:46.424 --> 00:08:47.976 But there's something else. 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.976 There's something else about these people, these Americans who are there. 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.201 There's something else about them that you see 00:08:54.225 --> 00:08:55.799 that they don't see themselves. 00:08:55.823 --> 00:08:58.310 And what do you see? They're Christians! 00:08:58.599 --> 00:09:00.067 They're Christians. 00:09:00.091 --> 00:09:03.592 They worship the Christian God, they have crosses, they carry Bibles. 00:09:03.616 --> 00:09:05.774 Their Bibles have a little insignia 00:09:05.798 --> 00:09:08.573 that says "US Army" on them. 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.696 And their leaders, their leaders: 00:09:13.100 --> 00:09:17.393 before they send their sons and daughters off to war in your country -- 00:09:17.417 --> 00:09:18.755 and you know the reason -- 00:09:18.779 --> 00:09:20.346 before they send them off, 00:09:20.370 --> 00:09:23.672 they go to a Christian church, and they pray to their Christian God, 00:09:23.696 --> 00:09:26.480 and they ask for protection and guidance from that god. 00:09:26.504 --> 00:09:27.681 Why? 00:09:27.705 --> 00:09:31.758 Well, obviously, when people die in the war, 00:09:31.782 --> 00:09:36.361 they are Muslims, they are Iraqis -- they're not Americans. 00:09:36.385 --> 00:09:39.205 You don't want Americans to die -- "Protect Our Troops." 00:09:39.229 --> 00:09:41.560 And you feel something about that -- 00:09:41.584 --> 00:09:42.787 of course you do. 00:09:42.811 --> 00:09:44.738 And they do wonderful things, 00:09:45.173 --> 00:09:46.863 beautiful humanitarian things. 00:09:46.887 --> 00:09:50.196 But these humanitarians, I mean these people, they're there - 00:09:50.862 --> 00:09:52.676 You read about it, you hear about it. 00:09:52.700 --> 00:09:54.918 They're there to build schools and help people. 00:09:54.942 --> 00:09:56.311 That's what they want to do. 00:09:56.335 --> 00:09:59.103 They do wonderful things, but they also do the bad things, 00:09:59.127 --> 00:10:00.762 and you can't tell the difference. 00:10:00.786 --> 00:10:04.045 And this guy, you get a guy like Lt. Gen. William Boykin. 00:10:04.277 --> 00:10:07.373 Here's a guy who says that your god is a false god. 00:10:07.398 --> 00:10:09.476 Your god's an idol; his god is the true god. 00:10:09.500 --> 00:10:12.596 The solution to the problem in the Middle East, according to him, 00:10:12.620 --> 00:10:14.554 is to convert you all to Christianity -- 00:10:14.578 --> 00:10:16.034 just get rid of your religion. 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:19.311 And you know that. Americans don't read about this guy. 00:10:19.335 --> 00:10:21.576 They don't know anything about him, but you do. 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:23.791 You pass it around. You pass his words around. 00:10:23.815 --> 00:10:26.387 I mean, this is serious. You're afraid. 00:10:26.411 --> 00:10:29.651 He was one of the leading commanders in the second invasion of Iraq. 00:10:29.675 --> 00:10:32.389 And you're thinking, "My God, if this guy is saying that, 00:10:32.413 --> 00:10:34.520 then all the soldiers must be saying that." 00:10:35.012 --> 00:10:36.497 And this word here -- 00:10:36.521 --> 00:10:38.434 George Bush called this war a crusade. 00:10:38.458 --> 00:10:40.936 Man, the Americans, they're just like, "Ah, crusade. 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:42.906 Whatever. I don't know what that means." 00:10:42.930 --> 00:10:45.955 You know what it means -- it's a holy war against Muslims. 00:10:45.979 --> 00:10:49.808 Look, invade, subdue them, take their resources. 00:10:49.832 --> 00:10:51.809 If they won't submit, kill them. 00:10:52.405 --> 00:10:53.756 That's what this is about. 00:10:53.780 --> 00:10:57.408 And you're thinking, "My God, these Christians are coming to kill us." 00:10:57.432 --> 00:10:58.876 This is frightening. 00:10:58.900 --> 00:11:01.654 You feel frightened. Of course you feel frightened. 00:11:02.804 --> 00:11:04.804 Of course you feel frightened. 00:11:08.291 --> 00:11:10.491 Why wouldn't you feel frightened. 00:11:10.678 --> 00:11:13.375 And this man, Terry Jones: 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:16.146 I mean here's a guy who wants to burn Qurans, right? 00:11:16.170 --> 00:11:18.823 And the Americans: "Ah, he's a knucklehead. 00:11:18.847 --> 00:11:22.476 He's a former hotel manager; he's got three dozen members of his church ..." 00:11:22.500 --> 00:11:23.667 They laugh him off. 00:11:23.691 --> 00:11:26.877 You don't laugh him off, because in the context of everything else, 00:11:26.901 --> 00:11:28.052 all the pieces fit. 00:11:28.076 --> 00:11:29.960 Of course this is how Americans think. 00:11:29.984 --> 00:11:32.987 So people all over the Middle East, not just in your country, 00:11:33.011 --> 00:11:34.167 are protesting. 00:11:34.191 --> 00:11:36.122 "He wants to burn Qurans, our holy book. 00:11:36.146 --> 00:11:38.274 These Christians -- who are these Christians? 00:11:38.298 --> 00:11:41.713 They're so evil, they're so mean -- this is what they're about?" 00:11:41.737 --> 00:11:44.352 This is what you're thinking as an Arab Muslim, 00:11:44.376 --> 00:11:45.785 as an Iraqi. 00:11:45.809 --> 00:11:47.786 Of course you're going to think this. 00:11:47.811 --> 00:11:49.545 How can you not think this? 00:11:49.610 --> 00:11:53.534 And then your cousin says, "Hey coz, check out this website. 00:11:53.558 --> 00:11:56.131 You've got to see this -- Bible Boot Camp. 00:11:56.156 --> 00:11:57.434 These Christians are nuts! 00:11:57.458 --> 00:12:00.325 They're training their little kids to be soldiers for Jesus. 00:12:00.749 --> 00:12:03.334 They take little kids and run them through these things 00:12:03.358 --> 00:12:05.660 till they teach them how to say, 'Sir! Yes, sir!' 00:12:05.684 --> 00:12:08.796 and things like 'grenade toss' and 'weapons care and maintenance.' 00:12:08.820 --> 00:12:11.852 And go to the website -- it says 'US Army' right on it. 00:12:11.876 --> 00:12:13.786 I mean, these Christians, they're nuts. 00:12:13.810 --> 00:12:15.820 How can they do this to their little kids?" 00:12:15.844 --> 00:12:17.375 And you're reading this website. 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:20.220 And of course, Christians in the United States, or anybody, 00:12:20.244 --> 00:12:23.125 says, "This is some little church in the middle of nowhere." 00:12:23.149 --> 00:12:24.300 You don't know that. 00:12:24.324 --> 00:12:26.733 For you, this is like, all Christians. 00:12:26.757 --> 00:12:29.059 It's all over the Web: "Bible Boot Camp." 00:12:29.083 --> 00:12:30.412 And look at this. 00:12:30.657 --> 00:12:32.052 They even teach their kids -- 00:12:32.076 --> 00:12:34.889 they train them in the same way the US Marines train. 00:12:35.307 --> 00:12:36.774 Isn't that interesting. 00:12:36.798 --> 00:12:39.076 And it scares you, and it frightens you. 00:12:39.100 --> 00:12:41.076 So these guys, you see them. 00:12:41.100 --> 00:12:44.284 You see, I, Sam Richards -- I know who these guys are. 00:12:44.308 --> 00:12:47.241 They're my students, my friends; I know what they're thinking. 00:12:47.265 --> 00:12:48.473 You don't know. 00:12:48.497 --> 00:12:51.042 When you see them, they're something else. 00:12:52.426 --> 00:12:53.700 They're something else. 00:12:54.130 --> 00:12:55.866 That's what they are to you. 00:12:56.908 --> 00:12:59.375 We don't see it that way in the United States, 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:00.835 but you see it that way. 00:13:04.700 --> 00:13:05.867 So here. 00:13:06.501 --> 00:13:08.533 Of course, you've got it wrong. 00:13:08.557 --> 00:13:11.040 You're generalizing. It's wrong. 00:13:11.064 --> 00:13:13.351 You don't understand the Americans. 00:13:13.375 --> 00:13:15.055 It's not a Christian invasion. 00:13:15.079 --> 00:13:18.052 We're not just there for oil; we're there for lots of reasons. 00:13:18.076 --> 00:13:20.089 You have it wrong. You've missed it. 00:13:20.113 --> 00:13:22.890 And of course, most of you don't support the insurgency; 00:13:22.914 --> 00:13:24.672 you don't support killing Americans; 00:13:24.696 --> 00:13:26.676 you don't support the terrorists. 00:13:26.700 --> 00:13:28.676 Of course you don't. Very few people do. 00:13:28.700 --> 00:13:30.964 But -- some of you do. 00:13:31.972 --> 00:13:33.394 And this is a perspective. 00:13:33.781 --> 00:13:36.513 OK. So now, here's what we're going to do. 00:13:36.537 --> 00:13:40.498 Step outside of your shoes that you're in right now, 00:13:40.522 --> 00:13:42.312 and step back into your normal shoes. 00:13:42.336 --> 00:13:44.311 So everyone's back in the room. OK? 00:13:45.265 --> 00:13:47.166 Now here comes the radical experiment. 00:13:47.190 --> 00:13:48.547 So we're all back home. 00:13:51.116 --> 00:13:53.208 This photo: this woman -- 00:13:53.232 --> 00:13:55.105 man, I feel her. 00:13:55.129 --> 00:13:56.702 I feel her. 00:13:56.726 --> 00:13:58.206 She's my sister, 00:13:58.230 --> 00:14:01.414 my wife, my cousin, my neighbor. 00:14:01.438 --> 00:14:02.834 She's anybody to me. 00:14:02.858 --> 00:14:05.565 These guys standing there, everybody in the photo -- 00:14:05.589 --> 00:14:07.306 I feel this photo, man. 00:14:08.732 --> 00:14:10.367 So here's what I want you to do. 00:14:10.391 --> 00:14:13.443 Let's go back to my first example, of the Chinese. 00:14:14.400 --> 00:14:16.222 I want you to go there. 00:14:16.246 --> 00:14:19.476 It's all about coal, and the Chinese are here in the United States. 00:14:19.500 --> 00:14:21.246 What I want you to do is picture her 00:14:21.270 --> 00:14:24.198 as a Chinese woman receiving a Chinese flag 00:14:24.222 --> 00:14:28.891 because her loved one has died in America in the coal uprising. 00:14:29.512 --> 00:14:31.141 And the soldiers are Chinese, 00:14:31.165 --> 00:14:33.040 and everybody else is Chinese. 00:14:33.520 --> 00:14:36.520 As an American, how do you feel about this picture? 00:14:38.830 --> 00:14:40.726 What do you think about that scene? 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.122 OK, try this. Bring it back. 00:14:46.146 --> 00:14:47.576 This is the scene here. 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:49.466 It's an American, American soldiers, 00:14:49.490 --> 00:14:52.545 American woman who lost her loved one in the Middle East, 00:14:52.569 --> 00:14:54.772 in Iraq or Afghanistan. 00:14:54.796 --> 00:14:56.772 Now, put yourself in the shoes, 00:14:56.796 --> 00:15:00.651 go back to the shoes of an Arab Muslim living in Iraq. 00:15:02.905 --> 00:15:07.703 What are you feeling and thinking about this photo, 00:15:07.727 --> 00:15:09.540 about this woman? 00:15:17.901 --> 00:15:19.576 OK, 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:21.576 now follow me on this, 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:23.731 because I'm taking a big risk here. 00:15:23.755 --> 00:15:26.494 And so I'm going to invite you to take a risk with me. 00:15:27.040 --> 00:15:28.040 Okay? 00:15:31.318 --> 00:15:33.295 These gentlemen here, they're insurgents. 00:15:33.319 --> 00:15:37.328 They were caught by the American soldiers, trying to kill Americans. 00:15:37.352 --> 00:15:40.762 And maybe they succeeded. Maybe they succeeded. 00:15:42.086 --> 00:15:46.460 Put yourself in the shoes of the Americans who caught them. 00:15:47.207 --> 00:15:49.287 Can you feel the rage? 00:15:49.311 --> 00:15:51.693 Can you feel that you just want to take these guys 00:15:51.717 --> 00:15:53.167 and wring their necks? 00:15:53.191 --> 00:15:54.441 Can you go there? 00:15:55.335 --> 00:15:57.010 It shouldn't be that difficult. 00:15:57.389 --> 00:16:00.081 You just -- oh, man. 00:16:02.474 --> 00:16:07.645 Now, put yourself in their shoes. 00:16:11.671 --> 00:16:13.648 Are they brutal killers 00:16:13.672 --> 00:16:15.625 or patriotic defenders? 00:16:17.601 --> 00:16:18.754 Which one? 00:16:19.391 --> 00:16:22.576 Can you feel their anger, 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:24.031 their fear, 00:16:24.055 --> 00:16:26.031 their rage 00:16:26.724 --> 00:16:28.921 at what has happened in their country? 00:16:28.945 --> 00:16:33.348 Can you imagine that maybe one of them, in the morning, 00:16:33.372 --> 00:16:36.504 bent down to their child and hugged their child 00:16:36.528 --> 00:16:40.505 and said, "Dear, I'll be back later. 00:16:40.529 --> 00:16:43.858 I'm going out to defend your freedom, your lives. 00:16:43.882 --> 00:16:46.355 I'm going out to look out for us, 00:16:47.369 --> 00:16:48.893 the future of our country." 00:16:49.980 --> 00:16:51.277 Can you imagine that? 00:16:51.301 --> 00:16:52.804 Can you imagine saying that? 00:16:54.028 --> 00:16:55.444 Can you go there? 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:00.335 What do you think they're feeling? 00:17:08.623 --> 00:17:10.028 You see, that's empathy. 00:17:11.281 --> 00:17:12.726 It's also understanding. 00:17:12.750 --> 00:17:14.377 [understand] 00:17:14.402 --> 00:17:15.710 Now, you might ask, 00:17:15.733 --> 00:17:19.001 "OK, Sam, so why do you do this sort of thing? 00:17:19.025 --> 00:17:21.385 Why would you use this example of all examples?" 00:17:21.409 --> 00:17:24.076 And I say, because. 00:17:25.800 --> 00:17:27.601 You're allowed to hate these people. 00:17:27.625 --> 00:17:32.776 You're allowed to just hate them with every fiber of your being. 00:17:32.800 --> 00:17:36.577 And if I can get you to step into their shoes 00:17:36.601 --> 00:17:40.158 and walk an inch -- one tiny inch -- 00:17:40.980 --> 00:17:43.694 then imagine the kind of sociological analysis 00:17:43.718 --> 00:17:47.336 that you can do in all other aspects of your life. 00:17:48.368 --> 00:17:49.776 You can walk a mile 00:17:49.800 --> 00:17:54.871 when it comes to understanding why that person's driving 40 miles per hour 00:17:54.895 --> 00:17:56.292 in the passing lane; 00:17:57.093 --> 00:17:58.764 or your teenage son; 00:17:59.474 --> 00:18:03.117 or your neighbor who annoys you by cutting his lawn on Sunday mornings. 00:18:03.141 --> 00:18:05.997 Whatever it is, you can go so far. 00:18:06.601 --> 00:18:08.696 And this is what I tell my students: 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:12.212 step outside of your tiny, little world. 00:18:12.236 --> 00:18:16.748 Step inside of the tiny, little world of somebody else. 00:18:16.989 --> 00:18:18.430 And then do it again 00:18:18.454 --> 00:18:20.153 and do it again and do it again. 00:18:20.177 --> 00:18:22.286 And suddenly, all these tiny, little worlds, 00:18:22.310 --> 00:18:24.562 they come together in this complex web. 00:18:24.586 --> 00:18:27.656 And they build a big, complex world. 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:30.059 And suddenly, without realizing it, 00:18:30.083 --> 00:18:32.260 you're seeing the world differently. 00:18:32.284 --> 00:18:34.047 Everything has changed. 00:18:34.071 --> 00:18:35.814 Everything in your life has changed. 00:18:36.921 --> 00:18:39.994 And that's, of course, what this is about. 00:18:40.018 --> 00:18:43.140 Attend to other lives, 00:18:43.164 --> 00:18:44.522 other visions. 00:18:44.546 --> 00:18:46.971 Listen to other people, 00:18:47.011 --> 00:18:48.856 enlighten ourselves. 00:18:48.915 --> 00:18:51.048 Abd so, what I will say here is, 00:18:53.909 --> 00:18:57.536 I'm not saying that I support the terrorists in Iraq. 00:18:58.179 --> 00:19:01.410 But as a sociologist, what I am saying is: 00:19:02.100 --> 00:19:04.849 I understand. 00:19:06.100 --> 00:19:10.328 And now perhaps -- perhaps -- you do, too. 00:19:10.352 --> 00:19:11.504 Thank you. 00:19:11.528 --> 00:19:14.896 (Applause)