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Art must be beautiful. Artist must be beautiful.

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Art must be beautiful... [Mumbles]

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Art must be beautiful. Artist must be beautiful...

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In the 70's, when artist had red lipstick and nailpolish, and any kind of relation to fashion,

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It was discussed like being a really bad artist, that's how you want to approve yourself,

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Because you cannot do it with your work. It was a big "No, no, no, no."

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I was presenting myself only in one way, very austere, very monastic.

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You know, in the old days, the performance clothes was always the same,

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All naked, or dirty black, or dirty white. That was it, you know.

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Never lipstick, never nailpolish, never high heeled shoes, very kind of strict.

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Almost masculine view of myself. And when I started working on my own in the begging of 70's,

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My work was really going to the, pushing physical limits to the point

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I'll probably have an accident or some terrible ending.

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[Man and woman] Ahh..... Ahh.....

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Ahh...

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Ulay, how I see now, he was really this new solution that we can put to invent this together,

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Create something like a third identity.

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And so Ulay came like a blessing to me.

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And it really worked.

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Ahh...Ahh...Ahh...

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And as a relationship works, it comes to an end, which was very difficult for me,

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Because I hate failures, and I didn't want to somehow admit that it actually didn't work anymore.

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But, it really came to the end, and this was why such a perfect form of ending was the Chinese wall.

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I finished walking on the Chinese wall and said goodbye to my partner, Ulay.

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And it was the most painful moments of my life and everything crashed with me.

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My work and my private life. And I was a kind of zero.

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I just wanted to laugh. I wanted laughter, I wanted to be alive again. I wanted to be happy again.

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I just wanted to be female again.

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After I finished the Chinese wall, I didn't need to prove to anybody anything anymore.

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That was really the turning point for me,

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When I said,"Okay, I think I am okay artist. I can really enjoy myself and embrace fashion."

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And that was another liberating thing. And I really think it's okay. I'm not ashamed of this.

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That is totally vanity. And it just shows the contradiction.

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Because, yes, I can sit 736 days in a museum in MoMA, an extremely hard performance.

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And then the day after had Givenchy organizing the fashion dinner, in which I had this amazing dress,

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Created by Riccardo Tisci, and the jacket was made from 101 snakes.

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At least, I'm sure they died natural deaths, but nevermind.

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You see, getting all this fashion attention at 65 is very different.

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When you are doing with 20, twenty somehow is natural.

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But now I'm sixty-five. And I was on the cover of V magazine, in fashion.

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That's much more fun, because it somehow boosts my confidence in myself,

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Which I never had that much, as a woman. As an artist, yes.