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Health care should be a team sport

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    I want to share some personal friends and stories with you
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    that I've actually never talked about in public before
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    to help illustrate the idea
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    and the need and the hope
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    for us to reinvent our health care system around the world.
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    Twenty-four years ago, I had -- a sophomore in college,
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    I had a series of fainting spells. No alcohol was involved.
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    And I ended up in student health,
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    and they ran some labwork and came back right away,
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    and said, "Kidney problems."
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    And before I knew it, I was involved and thrown into
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    this six months of tests and trials and tribulations
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    with six doctors across two hospitals
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    in this clash of medical titans
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    to figure out which one of them was right
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    about what was wrong with me.
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    And I'm sitting in a waiting room some time later for an ultrasound,
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    and all six of these doctors actually show up in the room at once,
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    and I'm like, "Uh oh, this is bad news."
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    And their diagnosis was this:
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    They said, "You have two rare kidney diseases
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    that are going to actually destroy your kidneys eventually,
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    you have cancer-like cells in your immune system
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    that we need to start treatment right away,
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    and you'll never be eligible for a kidney transplant,
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    and you're not likely to live more than two or three years."
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    Now, with the gravity of this doomsday diagnosis,
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    it just sucked me in immediately,
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    as if I began preparing myself as a patient
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    to die according to the schedule that they had just given to me,
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    until I met a patient named Verna in a waiting room,
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    who became a dear friend, and she grabbed me one day
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    and took me off to the medical library
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    and did a bunch of research on these diagnoses and these diseases,
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    and said, "Eric, these people who get this
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    are normally in their '70s and '80s.
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    They don't know anything about you. Wake up.
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    Take control of your health and get on with your life."
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    And I did.
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    Now, these people making these proclamations to me
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    were not bad people.
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    In fact, these professionals were miracle workers,
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    but they're working in a flawed, expensive system that's set up the wrong way.
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    It's dependent on hospitals and clinics for our every care need.
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    It's dependent on specialists who just look at parts of us.
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    It's dependent on guesswork of diagnoses and drug cocktails,
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    and so something either works or you die.
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    And it's dependent on passive patients
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    who just take it and don't ask any questions.
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    Now the problem with this model
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    is that it's unsustainable globally.
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    It's unaffordable globally.
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    We need to invent what I call a personal health system.
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    So what does this personal health system look like,
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    and what new technologies and roles is it going to entail?
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    Now, I'm going to start by actually sharing with you
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    a new friend of mine, Libby,
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    somebody I've become quite attached to over the last six months.
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    This is Libby, or actually, this is an ultrasound image of Libby.
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    This is the kidney transplant I was never supposed to have.
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    Now, this is an image that we shot a couple of weeks ago for today,
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    and you'll notice, on the edge of this image,
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    there's some dark spots there, which was really concerning to me.
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    So we're going to actually do a live exam
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    to sort of see how Libby's doing.
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    This is not a wardrobe malfunction. I have to take my belt off here.
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    Don't you in the front row worry or anything.
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    (Laughter)
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    I'm going to use a device from a company called Mobisante.
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    This is a portable ultrasound.
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    It can plug into a smartphone. It can plug into a tablet.
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    Mobisante is up in Redmond, Washington,
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    and they kindly trained me to actually do this on myself.
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    They're not approved to do this. Patients are not approved to do this.
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    This is a concept demo, so I want to make that clear.
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    All right, I gotta gel up.
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    Now the people in the front row are very nervous. (Laughter)
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    And I want to actually introduce you to Dr. Batiuk,
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    who's another friend of mine.
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    He's up in Legacy Good Samaritan Hospital in Portland, Oregon.
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    So let me just make sure. Hey, Dr. Batiuk. Can you hear me okay?
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    And actually, can you see Libby?
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    Thomas Batuik: Hi there, Eric.
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    You look busy. How are you?
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    Eric Dishman: I'm good. I'm just taking my clothes off
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    in front of a few hundred people. It's wonderful.
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    So I just wanted to see, is this the image you need to get?
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    And I know you want to look and see if those spots are still there.
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    TB: Okay. Well let's scan around a little bit here,
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    give me a lay of the land.
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    ED: All right.TB: Okay. Turn it a little bit inside,
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    a little bit toward the middle for me.
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    Okay, that's good. How about up a little bit?
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    Okay, freeze that image. That's a good one for me.
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    ED: All right. Now last week, when I did this,
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    you had me measure that spot to the right.
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    Should I do that again?
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    TB: Yeah, let's do that.
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    ED: All right. This is kind of hard to do
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    with one hand on your belly and one hand on measuring,
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    but I've got it, I think,
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    and I'll save that image and send it to you.
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    So tell me a little bit about what this dark spot means.
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    It's not something I was very happy about.
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    TB: Many people after a kidney transplant
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    will develop a little fluid collection around the kidney.
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    Most of the time it doesn't create any kind of mischief,
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    but it does warrant looking at,
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    so I'm happy we've got an opportunity to look at it today,
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    make sure that it's not growing, it's not creating any problems.
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    Based on the other images we have,
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    I'm really happy how it looks today.
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    ED: All right. Well, I guess we'll double check it when I come in.
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    I've got my six month biopsy in a couple of weeks,
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    and I'm going to let you do that in the clinic,
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    because I don't think I can do that one on myself.
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    TB: Good choice.ED: All right, thanks, Dr. Batiuk.
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    All right. So what you're sort of seeing here
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    is an example of disruptive technologies,
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    of mobile, social and analytic technologies.
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    These are the foundations of what's going to make personal health possible.
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    Now there's really three pillars
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    of this personal health I want to talk to you about now,
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    and it's care anywhere, care networking and care customization.
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    And you just saw a little bit of the first two
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    with my interaction with Dr. Batiuk.
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    So let's start with care anywhere.
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    Humans invented the idea of hospitals and clinics
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    in the 1780s. It is time to update our thinking.
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    We have got to untether clinicians and patients
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    from the notion of traveling to a special
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    bricks-and-mortar place for all of our care,
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    because these places are often the wrong tool,
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    and the most expensive tool, for the job.
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    And these are sometimes unsafe places to send our sickest patients,
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    especially in an era of superbugs
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    and hospital-acquired infections.
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    And many countries are going to go brickless from the start
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    because they're never going to be able to afford
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    the mega-medicalplexes that a lot of the rest of the world has built.
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    Now I personally learned that hospitals
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    can be a very dangerous place at a young age.
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    This was me in third grade.
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    I broke my elbow very seriously, had to have surgery,
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    worried that they were going to actually lose the arm.
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    Recovering from the surgery in the hospital, I get bedsores.
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    Those bedsores become infected,
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    and they give me an antibiotic which I end up being allergic to,
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    and now my whole body breaks out,
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    and now all of those become infected.
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    The longer I stayed in the hospital, the sicker I became,
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    and the more expensive it became,
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    and this happens to millions of people around the world every year.
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    The future of personal health that I'm talking about
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    says care must occur at home as the default model,
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    not in a hospital or clinic.
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    You have to earn your way into those places
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    by being sick enough to use that tool for the job.
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    Now the smartphones that we're already carrying
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    can clearly have diagnostic devices like ultrasounds plugged into them,
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    and a whole array of others, today,
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    and as sensing is built into these,
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    we'll be able to do vital signs monitor
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    and behavioral monitoring like we've never had before.
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    Many of us will have implantables that will actually look
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    real-time at what's going on with our blood chemistry
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    and in our proteins right now.
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    Now the software is also getting smarter, right?
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    Think about a coach, an agent online,
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    that's going to help me do safe self-care.
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    That same interaction that we just did with the ultrasound
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    will likely have real-time image processing,
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    and the device will say, "Up, down, left, right,
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    ah, Eric, that's the perfect spot to send that image
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    off to your doctor."
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    Now, if we've got all these networked devices
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    that are helping us to do care anywhere,
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    it stands to reason that we also need a team
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    to be able to interact with all of that stuff,
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    and that leads to the second pillar I want to talk about,
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    care networking.
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    We have got to go beyond this paradigm
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    of isolated specialists doing parts care
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    to multidisciplinary teams doing person care.
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    Uncoordinated care today is expensive at best,
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    and it is deadly at worst.
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    Eighty percent of medical errors are actually caused
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    by communication and coordination problems
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    amongst medical team members.
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    I had my own heart scare years ago in graduate school,
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    when we're under treatment for the kidney,
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    and suddenly, they're like, "Oh, we think you have a heart problem."
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    And I have these palpitations that are showing up.
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    They put me through five weeks of tests --
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    very expensive, very scary -- before the nurse finally notices
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    the piece of the paper, my meds list
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    that I've been carrying to every single appointment,
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    and says, "Oh my gosh."
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    Three different specialists had prescribed
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    three different versions of the same drug to me.
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    I did not have a heart problem. I had an overdose problem.
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    I had a care coordination problem.
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    And this happens to millions of people every year.
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    I want to use technology that we're all working on and making happen
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    to make health care a coordinated team sport.
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    Now this is the most frightening thing to me.
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    Out of all the care I've had in hospitals and clinics around the world,
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    the first time I've ever had a true team-based care experience
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    was at Legacy Good Sam these last six months
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    for me to go get this.
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    And this is a picture of my graduation team from Legacy.
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    There's a couple of the folks here. You'll recognize Dr. Batiuk.
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    We just talked to him. Here's Jenny, one of the nurses,
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    Allison, who helped manage the transplant list,
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    and a dozen other people who aren't pictured,
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    a pharmacist, a psychologist, a nutritionist,
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    even a financial counselor, Lisa,
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    who helped us deal with all the insurance hassles.
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    I wept the day I graduated.
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    I should have been happy, because I was so well
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    that I could go back to my normal doctors,
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    but I wept because I was so actually connected to this team.
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    And here's the most important part.
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    The other people in this picture are me and my wife, Ashley.
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    Legacy trained us on how to do care for me at home
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    so that they could offload the hospitals and clinics.
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    That's the only way that the model works.
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    My team is actually working in China
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    on one of these self-care models
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    for a project we called Age-Friendly Cities.
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    We're trying to help build a social network
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    that can help track and train the care of seniors
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    caring for themselves
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    as well as the care provided by their family members
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    or volunteer community health workers,
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    as well as have an exchange network online,
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    where, for example, I can donate three hours of care a day to your mom,
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    if somebody else can help me with transportation to meals,
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    and we exchange all of that online.
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    The most important point I want to make to you about this
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    is the sacred and somewhat over-romanticized
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    doctor-patient one-on-one
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    is a relic of the past.
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    The future of health care is smart teams,
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    and you'd better be on that team for yourself.
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    Now, the last thing that I want to talk to you about
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    is care customization,
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    because if you've got care anywhere and you've got care networking,
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    those are going to go a long way towards improving our health care system,
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    but there's still too much guesswork.
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    Randomized clinical trials were actually invented in 1948
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    to help invent the drugs that cured tuberculosis,
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    and those are important things, don't get me wrong.
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    These population studies that we've done have created
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    tons of miracle drugs that have saved millions of lives,
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    but the problem is that health care
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    is treating us as averages, not unique individuals,
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    because at the end of the day,
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    the patient is not the same thing as the population
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    who are studied. That's what's leading to the guesswork.
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    The technologies that are coming,
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    high-performance computing, analytics,
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    big data that everyone's talking about,
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    will allow us to build predictive models for each of us
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    as individual patients.
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    And the magic here is, experiment on my avatar
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    in software, not my body in suffering.
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    Now, I've had two examples I want to quickly share with you
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    of this kind of care customization on my own journey.
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    The first was quite simple. I finally realized some years ago
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    that all my medical teams were optimizing my treatment for longevity.
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    It's like a badge of honor to see how long they can get the patient to live.
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    I was optimizing my life for quality of life,
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    and quality of life for me means time in snow.
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    So on my chart, I forced them to put, "Patient goal:
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    low doses of drugs over longer periods of time,
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    side effects friendly to skiing."
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    And I think that's why I achieved longevity.
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    I think that time-in-snow therapy was as important
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    as the pharmaceuticals that I had.
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    Now the second example of customization -- and by the way,
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    you can't customize care if you don't know your own goals,
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    so health care can't know those until you know your own health care goals.
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    But the second example I want to give you is,
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    I happened to be an early guinea pig,
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    and I got very lucky to have my whole genome sequenced.
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    Now it took about two weeks of processing
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    on Intel's highest-end servers to make this happen,
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    and another six months of human and computing labor
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    to make sense of all of that data.
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    And at the end of all of that, they said, "Yes,
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    those diagnoses of that clash of medical titans
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    all of those years ago were wrong,
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    and we have a better path forward."
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    The future that Intel's working on now is to figure out
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    how to make that computing for personalized medicine
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    go from months and weeks to even hours,
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    and make this kind of tool available,
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    not just in the mainframes of tier-one research hospitals around the world,
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    but in the mainstream -- every patient, every clinic
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    with access to whole genome sequencing.
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    And I tell you, this kind of care customization
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    for everything from your goals to your genetics
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    will be the most game-changing transformation
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    that we witness in health care during our lifetime.
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    So these three pillars of personal health,
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    care anywhere, care networking, care customization,
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    are happening in pieces now,
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    but this vision will completely fail if we don't step up
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    as caregivers and as patients to take on new roles.
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    It's what my friend Verna said:
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    Wake up and take control of your health.
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    Because at the end of the day these technologies
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    are simply about people caring for other people
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    and ourselves in some powerful new ways.
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    And it's in that spirit that I want to introduce you
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    to one last friend, very quickly.
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    Tracey Gamley stepped up to give me the impossible kidney
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    that I was never supposed to have.
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    (Applause)
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    So Tracey, just tell us a little bit quickly about what the donor experience was like with you.
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    Tracey Gamley: For me, it was really easy.
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    I only had one night in the hospital.
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    The surgery was done laparoscopically,
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    so I have just five very small scars on my abdomen,
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    and I had four weeks away from work
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    and went back to doing everything I'd done before
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    without any changes.
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    ED: Well, I probably will never get a chance to say this to you
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    in such a large audience ever again.
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    So "thank you" feel likes a really trite word,
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    but thank you from the bottom of my heart for saving my life.
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    (Applause)
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    This TED stage and all of the TED stages
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    are often about celebrating innovation
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    and celebrating new technologies,
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    and I've done that here today,
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    and I've seen amazing things coming from TED speakers,
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    I mean, my gosh, artificial kidneys, even printable kidneys, that are coming.
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    But until such time that these amazing technologies
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    are available to all of us, and even when they are,
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    it's up to us to care for, and even save, one another.
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    I hope you will go out and make personal health happen
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    for yourselves and for everyone. Thanks so much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Health care should be a team sport
Speaker:
Eric Dishman
Description:

When Eric Dishman was in college, doctors told him he had 2 to 3 years to live. That was a long time ago. One rectified diagnosis and a transplant later, Dishman puts his personal experience and his expertise as a leading medical tech specialist together to suggest some bold ideas for reinventing healthcare -- by putting the patient at the center of a treatment team. (Filmed at TED@Intel)

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
15:59

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