Return to Video

Toward a new understanding of mental illness

  • 0:01 - 0:03
    So let's start with some good news,
  • 0:03 - 0:06
    and the good news has to do with what do we know
  • 0:06 - 0:08
    based on biomedical research
  • 0:08 - 0:12
    that actually has changed the outcomes
  • 0:12 - 0:15
    for many very serious diseases?
  • 0:15 - 0:17
    Let's start with leukemia,
  • 0:17 - 0:19
    acute lymphoblastic leukemia, ALL,
  • 0:19 - 0:22
    the most common cancer of children.
  • 0:22 - 0:24
    When I was a student,
  • 0:24 - 0:28
    the mortality rate was about 95 percent.
  • 0:28 - 0:31
    Today, some 25, 30 years later, we're talking about
  • 0:31 - 0:34
    a mortality rate that's reduced by 85 percent.
  • 0:34 - 0:37
    Six thousand children each year
  • 0:37 - 0:41
    who would have previously died of this disease are cured.
  • 0:41 - 0:43
    If you want the really big numbers,
  • 0:43 - 0:46
    look at these numbers for heart disease.
  • 0:46 - 0:48
    Heart disease used to be the biggest killer,
  • 0:48 - 0:49
    particularly for men in their 40s.
  • 0:49 - 0:53
    Today, we've seen a 63-percent reduction in mortality
  • 0:53 - 0:55
    from heart disease --
  • 0:55 - 1:00
    remarkably, 1.1 million deaths averted every year.
  • 1:00 - 1:02
    AIDS, incredibly, has just been named,
  • 1:02 - 1:05
    in the past month, a chronic disease,
  • 1:05 - 1:08
    meaning that a 20-year-old who becomes infected with HIV
  • 1:08 - 1:12
    is expected not to live weeks, months, or a couple of years,
  • 1:12 - 1:14
    as we said only a decade ago,
  • 1:14 - 1:16
    but is thought to live decades,
  • 1:16 - 1:21
    probably to die in his '60s or '70s from other causes altogether.
  • 1:21 - 1:24
    These are just remarkable, remarkable changes
  • 1:24 - 1:26
    in the outlook for some of the biggest killers.
  • 1:26 - 1:28
    And one in particular
  • 1:28 - 1:30
    that you probably wouldn't know about, stroke,
  • 1:30 - 1:32
    which has been, along with heart disease,
  • 1:32 - 1:34
    one of the biggest killers in this country,
  • 1:34 - 1:36
    is a disease in which now we know
  • 1:36 - 1:39
    that if you can get people into the emergency room
  • 1:39 - 1:41
    within three hours of the onset,
  • 1:41 - 1:44
    some 30 percent of them will be able to leave the hospital
  • 1:44 - 1:47
    without any disability whatsoever.
  • 1:47 - 1:49
    Remarkable stories,
  • 1:49 - 1:51
    good-news stories,
  • 1:51 - 1:54
    all of which boil down to understanding
  • 1:54 - 1:58
    something about the diseases that has allowed us
  • 1:58 - 2:01
    to detect early and intervene early.
  • 2:01 - 2:03
    Early detection, early intervention,
  • 2:03 - 2:06
    that's the story for these successes.
  • 2:06 - 2:09
    Unfortunately, the news is not all good.
  • 2:09 - 2:11
    Let's talk about one other story
  • 2:11 - 2:13
    which has to do with suicide.
  • 2:13 - 2:16
    Now this is, of course, not a disease, per se.
  • 2:16 - 2:19
    It's a condition, or it's a situation
  • 2:19 - 2:20
    that leads to mortality.
  • 2:20 - 2:23
    What you may not realize is just how prevalent it is.
  • 2:23 - 2:28
    There are 38,000 suicides each year in the United States.
  • 2:28 - 2:30
    That means one about every 15 minutes.
  • 2:30 - 2:33
    Third most common cause of death amongst people
  • 2:33 - 2:36
    between the ages of 15 and 25.
  • 2:36 - 2:38
    It's kind of an extraordinary story when you realize
  • 2:38 - 2:41
    that this is twice as common as homicide
  • 2:41 - 2:43
    and actually more common as a source of death
  • 2:43 - 2:47
    than traffic fatalities in this country.
  • 2:47 - 2:49
    Now, when we talk about suicide,
  • 2:49 - 2:53
    there is also a medical contribution here,
  • 2:53 - 2:55
    because 90 percent of suicides
  • 2:55 - 2:57
    are related to a mental illness:
  • 2:57 - 3:00
    depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia,
  • 3:00 - 3:03
    anorexia, borderline personality. There's a long list
  • 3:03 - 3:05
    of disorders that contribute,
  • 3:05 - 3:09
    and as I mentioned before, often early in life.
  • 3:09 - 3:12
    But it's not just the mortality from these disorders.
  • 3:12 - 3:14
    It's also morbidity.
  • 3:14 - 3:16
    If you look at disability,
  • 3:16 - 3:18
    as measured by the World Health Organization
  • 3:18 - 3:22
    with something they call the Disability Adjusted Life Years,
  • 3:22 - 3:24
    it's kind of a metric that nobody would think of
  • 3:24 - 3:25
    except an economist,
  • 3:25 - 3:29
    except it's one way of trying to capture what is lost
  • 3:29 - 3:32
    in terms of disability from medical causes,
  • 3:32 - 3:35
    and as you can see, virtually 30 percent
  • 3:35 - 3:37
    of all disability from all medical causes
  • 3:37 - 3:39
    can be attributed to mental disorders,
  • 3:39 - 3:42
    neuropsychiatric syndromes.
  • 3:42 - 3:44
    You're probably thinking that doesn't make any sense.
  • 3:44 - 3:47
    I mean, cancer seems far more serious.
  • 3:47 - 3:50
    Heart disease seems far more serious.
  • 3:50 - 3:53
    But you can see actually they are further down this list,
  • 3:53 - 3:55
    and that's because we're talking here about disability.
  • 3:55 - 3:58
    What drives the disability for these disorders
  • 3:58 - 4:02
    like schizophrenia and bipolar and depression?
  • 4:02 - 4:05
    Why are they number one here?
  • 4:05 - 4:06
    Well, there are probably three reasons.
  • 4:06 - 4:08
    One is that they're highly prevalent.
  • 4:08 - 4:11
    About one in five people will suffer from one of these disorders
  • 4:11 - 4:14
    in the course of their lifetime.
  • 4:14 - 4:16
    A second, of course, is that, for some people,
  • 4:16 - 4:18
    these become truly disabling,
  • 4:18 - 4:21
    and it's about four to five percent, perhaps one in 20.
  • 4:21 - 4:25
    But what really drives these numbers, this high morbidity,
  • 4:25 - 4:28
    and to some extent the high mortality,
  • 4:28 - 4:32
    is the fact that these start very early in life.
  • 4:32 - 4:35
    Fifty percent will have onset by age 14,
  • 4:35 - 4:38
    75 percent by age 24,
  • 4:38 - 4:41
    a picture that is very different than what one would see
  • 4:41 - 4:44
    if you're talking about cancer or heart disease,
  • 4:44 - 4:47
    diabetes, hypertension -- most of the major illnesses
  • 4:47 - 4:51
    that we think about as being sources of morbidity and mortality.
  • 4:51 - 4:57
    These are, indeed, the chronic disorders of young people.
  • 4:57 - 5:00
    Now, I started by telling you that there were some good-news stories.
  • 5:00 - 5:02
    This is obviously not one of them.
  • 5:02 - 5:05
    This is the part of it that is perhaps most difficult,
  • 5:05 - 5:07
    and in a sense this is a kind of confession for me.
  • 5:07 - 5:13
    My job is to actually make sure that we make progress
  • 5:13 - 5:15
    on all of these disorders.
  • 5:15 - 5:17
    I work for the federal government.
  • 5:17 - 5:19
    Actually, I work for you. You pay my salary.
  • 5:19 - 5:21
    And maybe at this point, when you know what I do,
  • 5:21 - 5:23
    or maybe what I've failed to do,
  • 5:23 - 5:25
    you'll think that I probably ought to be fired,
  • 5:25 - 5:28
    and I could certainly understand that.
  • 5:28 - 5:30
    But what I want to suggest, and the reason I'm here
  • 5:30 - 5:33
    is to tell you that I think we're about to be
  • 5:33 - 5:38
    in a very different world as we think about these illnesses.
  • 5:38 - 5:41
    What I've been talking to you about so far is mental disorders,
  • 5:41 - 5:43
    diseases of the mind.
  • 5:43 - 5:46
    That's actually becoming a rather unpopular term these days,
  • 5:46 - 5:48
    and people feel that, for whatever reason,
  • 5:48 - 5:52
    it's politically better to use the term behavioral disorders
  • 5:52 - 5:56
    and to talk about these as disorders of behavior.
  • 5:56 - 5:58
    Fair enough. They are disorders of behavior,
  • 5:58 - 6:00
    and they are disorders of the mind.
  • 6:00 - 6:02
    But what I want to suggest to you
  • 6:02 - 6:04
    is that both of those terms,
  • 6:04 - 6:07
    which have been in play for a century or more,
  • 6:07 - 6:10
    are actually now impediments to progress,
  • 6:10 - 6:14
    that what we need conceptually to make progress here
  • 6:14 - 6:19
    is to rethink these disorders as brain disorders.
  • 6:19 - 6:21
    Now, for some of you, you're going to say,
  • 6:21 - 6:23
    "Oh my goodness, here we go again.
  • 6:23 - 6:26
    We're going to hear about a biochemical imbalance
  • 6:26 - 6:28
    or we're going to hear about drugs
  • 6:28 - 6:33
    or we're going to hear about some very simplistic notion
  • 6:33 - 6:36
    that will take our subjective experience
  • 6:36 - 6:42
    and turn it into molecules, or maybe into some sort of
  • 6:42 - 6:45
    very flat, unidimensional understanding
  • 6:45 - 6:49
    of what it is to have depression or schizophrenia.
  • 6:49 - 6:53
    When we talk about the brain, it is anything but
  • 6:53 - 6:57
    unidimensional or simplistic or reductionistic.
  • 6:57 - 7:00
    It depends, of course, on what scale
  • 7:00 - 7:02
    or what scope you want to think about,
  • 7:02 - 7:08
    but this is an organ of surreal complexity,
  • 7:08 - 7:12
    and we are just beginning to understand
  • 7:12 - 7:14
    how to even study it, whether you're thinking about
  • 7:14 - 7:16
    the 100 billion neurons that are in the cortex
  • 7:16 - 7:19
    or the 100 trillion synapses
  • 7:19 - 7:21
    that make up all the connections.
  • 7:21 - 7:25
    We have just begun to try to figure out
  • 7:25 - 7:28
    how do we take this very complex machine
  • 7:28 - 7:31
    that does extraordinary kinds of information processing
  • 7:31 - 7:34
    and use our own minds to understand
  • 7:34 - 7:37
    this very complex brain that supports our own minds.
  • 7:37 - 7:40
    It's actually a kind of cruel trick of evolution
  • 7:40 - 7:43
    that we simply don't have a brain
  • 7:43 - 7:46
    that seems to be wired well enough to understand itself.
  • 7:46 - 7:49
    In a sense, it actually makes you feel that
  • 7:49 - 7:51
    when you're in the safe zone of studying behavior or cognition,
  • 7:51 - 7:53
    something you can observe,
  • 7:53 - 7:56
    that in a way feels more simplistic and reductionistic
  • 7:56 - 8:01
    than trying to engage this very complex, mysterious organ
  • 8:01 - 8:03
    that we're beginning to try to understand.
  • 8:03 - 8:07
    Now, already in the case of the brain disorders
  • 8:07 - 8:09
    that I've been talking to you about,
  • 8:09 - 8:11
    depression, obsessive compulsive disorder,
  • 8:11 - 8:13
    post-traumatic stress disorder,
  • 8:13 - 8:16
    while we don't have an in-depth understanding
  • 8:16 - 8:20
    of how they are abnormally processed
  • 8:20 - 8:22
    or what the brain is doing in these illnesses,
  • 8:22 - 8:25
    we have been able to already identify
  • 8:25 - 8:27
    some of the connectional differences, or some of the ways
  • 8:27 - 8:30
    in which the circuitry is different
  • 8:30 - 8:32
    for people who have these disorders.
  • 8:32 - 8:34
    We call this the human connectome,
  • 8:34 - 8:36
    and you can think about the connectome
  • 8:36 - 8:38
    sort of as the wiring diagram of the brain.
  • 8:38 - 8:40
    You'll hear more about this in a few minutes.
  • 8:40 - 8:43
    The important piece here is that as you begin to look
  • 8:43 - 8:47
    at people who have these disorders, the one in five of us
  • 8:47 - 8:49
    who struggle in some way,
  • 8:49 - 8:51
    you find that there's a lot of variation
  • 8:51 - 8:54
    in the way that the brain is wired,
  • 8:54 - 8:57
    but there are some predictable patterns, and those patterns
  • 8:57 - 9:01
    are risk factors for developing one of these disorders.
  • 9:01 - 9:04
    It's a little different than the way we think about brain disorders
  • 9:04 - 9:06
    like Huntington's or Parkinson's or Alzheimer's disease
  • 9:06 - 9:09
    where you have a bombed-out part of your cortex.
  • 9:09 - 9:12
    Here we're talking about traffic jams, or sometimes detours,
  • 9:12 - 9:15
    or sometimes problems with just the way that things are connected
  • 9:15 - 9:16
    and the way that the brain functions.
  • 9:16 - 9:19
    You could, if you want, compare this to,
  • 9:19 - 9:22
    on the one hand, a myocardial infarction, a heart attack,
  • 9:22 - 9:24
    where you have dead tissue in the heart,
  • 9:24 - 9:28
    versus an arrhythmia, where the organ simply isn't functioning
  • 9:28 - 9:30
    because of the communication problems within it.
  • 9:30 - 9:32
    Either one would kill you; in only one of them
  • 9:32 - 9:34
    will you find a major lesion.
  • 9:34 - 9:37
    As we think about this, probably it's better to actually go
  • 9:37 - 9:40
    a little deeper into one particular disorder, and that would be schizophrenia,
  • 9:40 - 9:43
    because I think that's a good case
  • 9:43 - 9:46
    for helping to understand why thinking of this as a brain disorder matters.
  • 9:46 - 9:50
    These are scans from Judy Rapoport and her colleagues
  • 9:50 - 9:52
    at the National Institute of Mental Health
  • 9:52 - 9:56
    in which they studied children with very early onset schizophrenia,
  • 9:56 - 9:57
    and you can see already in the top
  • 9:57 - 10:00
    there's areas that are red or orange, yellow,
  • 10:00 - 10:02
    are places where there's less gray matter,
  • 10:02 - 10:04
    and as they followed them over five years,
  • 10:04 - 10:06
    comparing them to age match controls,
  • 10:06 - 10:08
    you can see that, particularly in areas like
  • 10:08 - 10:10
    the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex
  • 10:10 - 10:14
    or the superior temporal gyrus, there's a profound loss of gray matter.
  • 10:14 - 10:16
    And it's important, if you try to model this,
  • 10:16 - 10:18
    you can think about normal development
  • 10:18 - 10:21
    as a loss of cortical mass, loss of cortical gray matter,
  • 10:21 - 10:25
    and what's happening in schizophrenia is that you overshoot that mark,
  • 10:25 - 10:26
    and at some point, when you overshoot,
  • 10:26 - 10:29
    you cross a threshold, and it's that threshold
  • 10:29 - 10:33
    where we say, this is a person who has this disease,
  • 10:33 - 10:35
    because they have the behavioral symptoms
  • 10:35 - 10:37
    of hallucinations and delusions.
  • 10:37 - 10:39
    That's something we can observe.
  • 10:39 - 10:44
    But look at this closely and you can see that actually they've crossed a different threshold.
  • 10:44 - 10:47
    They've crossed a brain threshold much earlier,
  • 10:47 - 10:50
    that perhaps not at age 22 or 20,
  • 10:50 - 10:53
    but even by age 15 or 16 you can begin to see
  • 10:53 - 10:56
    the trajectory for development is quite different
  • 10:56 - 10:59
    at the level of the brain, not at the level of behavior.
  • 10:59 - 11:01
    Why does this matter? Well first because,
  • 11:01 - 11:04
    for brain disorders, behavior is the last thing to change.
  • 11:04 - 11:07
    We know that for Alzheimer's, for Parkinson's, for Huntington's.
  • 11:07 - 11:10
    There are changes in the brain a decade or more
  • 11:10 - 11:15
    before you see the first signs of a behavioral change.
  • 11:15 - 11:18
    The tools that we have now allow us to detect
  • 11:18 - 11:22
    these brain changes much earlier, long before the symptoms emerge.
  • 11:22 - 11:25
    But most important, go back to where we started.
  • 11:25 - 11:29
    The good-news stories in medicine
  • 11:29 - 11:32
    are early detection, early intervention.
  • 11:32 - 11:35
    If we waited until the heart attack,
  • 11:35 - 11:39
    we would be sacrificing 1.1 million lives
  • 11:39 - 11:42
    every year in this country to heart disease.
  • 11:42 - 11:44
    That is precisely what we do today
  • 11:44 - 11:49
    when we decide that everybody with one of these brain disorders,
  • 11:49 - 11:52
    brain circuit disorders, has a behavioral disorder.
  • 11:52 - 11:55
    We wait until the behavior becomes manifest.
  • 11:55 - 12:00
    That's not early detection. That's not early intervention.
  • 12:00 - 12:01
    Now to be clear, we're not quite ready to do this.
  • 12:01 - 12:04
    We don't have all the facts. We don't actually even know
  • 12:04 - 12:07
    what the tools will be,
  • 12:07 - 12:11
    nor what to precisely look for in every case to be able
  • 12:11 - 12:15
    to get there before the behavior emerges as different.
  • 12:15 - 12:18
    But this tells us how we need to think about it,
  • 12:18 - 12:20
    and where we need to go.
  • 12:20 - 12:21
    Are we going to be there soon?
  • 12:21 - 12:24
    I think that this is something that will happen
  • 12:24 - 12:27
    over the course of the next few years, but I'd like to finish
  • 12:27 - 12:29
    with a quote about trying to predict how this will happen
  • 12:29 - 12:32
    by somebody who's thought a lot about changes
  • 12:32 - 12:34
    in concepts and changes in technology.
  • 12:34 - 12:36
    "We always overestimate the change that will occur
  • 12:36 - 12:38
    in the next two years and underestimate
  • 12:38 - 12:42
    the change that will occur in the next 10." -- Bill Gates.
  • 12:42 - 12:44
    Thanks very much.
  • 12:44 - 12:46
    (Applause)
Title:
Toward a new understanding of mental illness
Speaker:
Thomas Insel
Description:

Today, thanks to better early detection, there are 63% fewer deaths from heart disease than there were just a few decades ago. Thomas Insel, Director of the National Institute of Mental Health, wonders: Could we do the same for depression and schizophrenia? The first step in this new avenue of research, he says, is a crucial reframing: for us to stop thinking about “mental disorders” and start understanding them as “brain disorders.” (Filmed at TEDxCaltech.)

more » « less
Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
13:03

English subtitles

Revisions Compare revisions