Mehran Keshe Interview by Shahriar Mazandi 30th January 2013 Part 3

Chemotherapy is a different field, you have to understand what it does to the body,

I have doctors here,

who have cancers themselves, and they say, "We will not allow chemotherapy

to be used on our own body." And they are doctors themselves, medical doctors!

Because chemotherapy, for example,

we note from the Canadian research, is that

if you have chemo after, over the age of fifty,

fifty-five, sixty, then average to stay alive

is about 5 to 7 years. 85% of the patients die,

due to the chemotherapy, because it decreases the immune

system and most of them die of, what do you call it,

the smallest infections.

And this is what is in the public domain by the research by the Canadian scientists.

We understand very easily what research was done by the French scientists.

They monitored a large number of thousands of people who came

from Haiti to France, and they lived in France

for a bit of time, and they went back to Haiti, and in that

population, MS was exactly as the European level. But the Haitians

did not have that kind of MS level of

percentage in them.

We understand what causes part of the MS, what causes it,

But this is what the research universe is, like you lot.

Professors and doctors to put this tattoo on their doors, and look at their

physics the way it is, I'm sure the breakthrough will be more than what it is now.

"So, you think by now the

opposition you've had on the internet, some of that and elsewhere,

where people have tried to discredit what you are doing..."

I'm not the only scientist. Any scientist who's come up with

anything now, we have the internet to criticize.

The guy who said the Earth is not round, and is not the center of the universe,

we know what happened to him. At least I'm still alive...he got hung!

So, the opposition is normal.

If people, the minute anybody says "Yes" and everyone says, "Yes, yes",

then it's not correct. But on the other hand

a lot of people who make opposition about the Keshe Foundation are paid

to do so. We know so much how they are operating.

We know who pays them.

This isn't... we have to be opposed.

We have to be asked to explain ourselves, and we do

that to the scientists. We do that to the scientists who

understand they are not there to protect

their name on the door as a professor, or a doctor or a senior scientist.

We collaborated with

scientists in universities, and now we have even

started in a new direction totally in Europe. Most of the opposition

in Belgium to us, comes from the people who understood how much money

this technology can make, and they wanted it. And then we refused. We said,

"This technology belongs to everybody, not to two or three men in this country."

So, everything is started by them. We are very open, we started releasing their names,

and in past week, I come across a document

that actually brings the whole thing down,

who is behind all these things. We, we were...

We did not ask... we were

asked to, we were asked by, companies

in Canada, and in Germany to set up the first

factory in Belgium in 2009. They offered us

the factory because they knew what we do.

And everything is documented. The only problem is,

this technology is devastating. This technology

will bring short-term rapid unemployment,

but on the other hand it will bring a long term, large number of employments.

And this technological revolution,

as I was told by an American diplomat, we can not take such revolution at hand,

it would be total chaos, but on the other hand the chaos is out now,

People are replicating it, and they are building it.

I'm sure very soon, in a matter of a few weeks, you will see

European scientists will deliver the first energy and space reactors,

the same as the Iranian government has done.

It's in a position...I have seen some systems, because I get asked to look at them,

and the European scientists are not very far to do the

first, what do you call it, Mag-grav systems. "Could you talk about...

the fusion reactors that allegedly Iran has?"

I'm not in that business..."Okay, how about

nuclear, with all the technologies that you have,

does Iran need nuclear energy?" Of course! Of course!

We don't even understand two percent of the nuclear,

at the heavy level. Who, since when,

since when, we are dictated what we are supposed

to understand. Why nuclear has to become exclusive to certain nations?

Why are the French are doing it? Why French have

access to...they are spending millions in fusion. Why are Americans doing it?

Why other countries are doing it? Because something is

very simple...I wrote on my Forum, "Are we enemies

or friends? How come America, with the help of the Israeli's,

are killing Iranian nuclear physicists

on the heavy scale, on the heavy metals, and

they ask for finance and help from the Iranian scientists

in the plasma level? Because, we developed

a plasma technology much more advanced. According to the United Nations,

the Iranian nuclear physicists in plasma have been the top leading...

for 15 years have been the top nation

in that field. So, why not? Because we don't understand,

even the British don't understand. I worked in the nuclear industry in England.

Why did we close all the gas power stations in England?

Why is there more research now in England about

how to shut down the reactors, than it was actually to develop them?

So, nuclear industry is a spectrum... we have

to understand everything. It's not exclusive to nations.

the nations who make countries like Iran, "Axis Of Evil' because

they are producing nuclear technology

which we try to understand, is because they see competition.

That's all it is! "Could you talk about the nuclear

reprocessing industry, and..." No. It's not my field.

I'm only the plasma section. "Ok, sorry. I apologize"

Nuclear processing, I understand it, I was told, I understand the process,

I understand what we need to do it. Don't forget my

speciality or my degree

is in reactor technology from Queen Mary College, so

I know from the beginning to the end how to design a nuclear

reactor, and not theoretically, and this is one of the problems

which even the Americans told me, when you say something

you show it. So, I can build things to show.

And processing is part of trying to safeguard.

And this process of Iran, re-processing,

is something which you do in England.

The only problem is at the moment, the nuclear industry

during Mrs Thatcher, was cut into 3 pieces,

production of material, production of

the stations, and re-processing.

The material went partially or mainly to France, making the systems

went to America with Westinghouse and the rest of it.

And reprocessing was given to England, and anybody who comes to this area

to cut into this market, becomes "Axis Of Evil".

Because they cut into the economy of what they are planning to do for business.

Once the nuclear, once the oiliness refinishes, or we run short of

oil, they presume that we come to nuclear. Nobody ever assumes

that the technology like we have developed will ever come to the market.

I have seen signed documents and agreements when I was with the nuclear

and then I found out, and I left immediately, was that

even in that agreement, gas-powered stations

in England were shut down, they were literally brought down, because from

now on you only can buy PWR's from America. You remember

the deal Mrs Thatcher made with Reagan?

And that's why you don't have. Any nuclear power stations built in England will be PWR.

In turn, the processing of material as we see now

from Japan, comes to England to be re-processed.

So, Iran becomes Axis Of Evil, due to breaking into this

trail of processing and manufacturing,

and assembling of the fuel. So Iran has every right

as every other nation, as are the Russians and Chinese.

So, yes you have to reprocess otherwise the material stays dangerous.

But with the new technology, you don't need heavy materials,

but at the end, we need the heavy materials, because, if you understand

the process of re-processing, our own human body

can not function without,

what do you call it, caesium, or cobalt.

You live, you divide, the whole function of our body,

works on the interaction of nuclear materials, otherwise

it cannot divide. If you don't understand it, I tell you something very simple.

I see ladies in your audience. If you had a child,

if you are pregnant, the first thing

the doctor see you are pregnant, is what? Folic acid.

Go in the books, go on internet, see what is Folic Acid.

It's a nuclear material, to speed up the division

of the cells, so that a child can have a full process. You go and buy them,

eat it. You buy B-12. Go on the internet...

what is B-12? It's a radioactive material.

You buy it to increase the division of the cells in your body.

Nuclear Science...we don't even understand one percent of it.

We focus on the heavy elements, all the plasma.

re-processing is needed, heavy industry, nuclear needed..

plasma needed, and this is a way of collectively,

as a human being in the world of science, we are developing, and going ahead.

It cannot become exclusive. There are three nations, and that's the

only reason Iran is "Axis Of Evil", is because Iran now doesn't need

a supply, because it has it's own mines, now they can process their own material,

and now they have learned the technique from the Russians and the Americans,

which they brought at the beginning of the process during the Shah regime,

how to make a system. So, now they are cutting into them,

to all three nations that tie up the nuclear industry.

"I only asked you that question because I

read about it on your blog, and you mentioned that."

Let's talk about something very easy...

Nuclear industry is

part of own lives, part of our own existence.

We have "re-processing" in our body!

How do we process nuclear materials to make them safe?

If you don't understand it, I explain to you in a very simple way...

Our body has a re-processing of nuclear material.

We eat B-12, cobalt. We have

radioactive material in our body, and the radioactive material

in our body, is like a knife; it cuts to slices to the strength you need.

When the knife gets too weak, when the radioactive material is

is not strong enough to do its function, our body rejects it.

There is a point in our intestine,

before this few micron, the body absorbs B-12.

After this few micron in your intestine, the body rejects B-12.

These are the B-12's which are there, but they are not strong enough

to create division. So what do you do, when you go to big toilet,

you pass it out. and then in the olden days, in our...

because people just used excrement as fertilizer and there was no hygiene,

that they used their hand, wash their hand, they used to eat this B-12

as part of cleaning themselves, so they used to re-supply themselves.

So, our body works on the same essence as a nuclear reactor....

If you understand it, it's the process we need to do.

You have to understand the whole structure. If you say there is

exclusivity, and you don't see why the cobalt is used, and

it's used in your own body, so, what's going to happen to the vegetarians

who don't take B-12? Now, we understand at this place in our research,

why a lot of diseases come with a shortage of B-12.

And that's how we can stop a lot of diseases. And then

you tell me re-processing and the rest,

our body is re-processing nuclear material for us to live...

If you stop for one second, you always saw the material.

"Also, I gather that from your blogs, Iran is a world leader

in isotopes in the medical industry in this respect."

Yes. Yes, we didn't...we haven't planned it.

This, if you read my website, this happened by accident.

This reactor was built for Iran

during the Shaw's regime, as a prototype reactor.

at the University. Don't forget, we, in

Queen Mary College, when I was a student, we had our own reactor in

the basement of the University. In Iran,

it is the same thing. They took

when I was finished at the University, they took the reactor to my land,

it was too dangerous by then at the center of London, then they

dismantled it, because it was too dangerous. It was in the basement of the

nuclear engineering department in Queen Mary College.

These are the same reactor which a car has. It was put in there

for beginning of teaching of nuclear physics during the Shaw regime,

and this reactor was used, and it has been used for prototyping.

What happened about 4 or 5 years ago, where the majority of isotopes

for medical purposes were getting manufactured

in Canada, the reactor ran into problems, they could not keep

up with supply, so Iran took over the supply, the gap in the market.

So, that's how Iran came into the reactor which they got years ago.

So Iran produces isotopes from the systems which

was built for us by the British and the Americans

and now, it's such a lucrative market, that the Europeans are building a

system in SEK in Belgium, financed by the German government,

to cut into this market again. Because, you cannot imagine

how lucrative the isotope business is in medical.

And that's the reason, Iran just happened to be there by accident.

"OK, fantastic! Let's move on to...

a few other things. When are we going to see more Keshe technologies

for the home? Such as... I gather, that your...

Sorry, carry on." ...As you know,