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Modelling Ecosystem Services under Uncertainty with ARIES: Gary Johnson at TEDxUVM

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    We all know that we receive
    benefits from nature,
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    but have you ever tried
    to list them out?
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    To identify them,
    assign values to them
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    or actually trace them back, to particular
    landscapes that give rise to them.
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    Most of us probably don't go
    through this exercise
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    on a regular basis if ever.
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    But the answer to these questions
    is fundamental to our ability
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    to manage our landscapes,
    for both sustainability
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    and for improved quality of life.
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    But to answer these questions,
    I need to know,
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    what values you assign
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    to wetlands,
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    streams, forests, fields?
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    And this question isn't particularly
    easy to answer,
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    if you think about it.
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    We all have familiarity with assigning
    a value to a pint of maple syrup
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    or a glass of water.
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    But, what's the value of the maple trees
    that produced that syrup,
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    or the forest
    where maple trees grow?
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    Is the value of the forest equal
    to the value of the maple syrup?
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    Probably not.
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    Forests produce
    a lot of other services,
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    and we could sit and think
    about them for a minute.
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    We can think whether it is –
    board field lumber it produces,
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    or they generate other food,
    fuel-fiber type resources, firewood –
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    These all have market values,
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    so, again, it's relatively easy
    to look up at the values
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    or think about them,
    or think about trading them.
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    But what about the elements,

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    the services that we get
    from this ecosystems
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    that aren't necessarily material,
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    that aren't part or the structure,
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    but rather functions
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    of the greater structural complexity
    of these systems?
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    That is – what is the value
    of a forest as a forest
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    as opposed to the value
    as a piece of lumber?
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    So, that's an important question
    to think about.
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    So if we can think about things like,
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    forests absorb carbon dioxide
    from the air,
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    thereby medicating greenhouse
    gas emissions and climate change –
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    they produce oxygen
    that we can breathe,
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    they retain nutrients,
    like phosphorus and nitrogen,
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    as well as sediment,
    keeping them out from water ways
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    to keep them clear.
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    They provide habitat for biodiversity
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    and they provide endless recreation
    opportunities for us.
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    We can think of all
    these kinds of things.
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    So, maybe we can get
    at a lower bound for value
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    for a given forest,
    if we try to add up
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    the individual contributions
    of each of these different elements
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    to our well being.
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    So we can try and do that.
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    But now we are still faced
    with a more fundamental problem,
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    which is that – we're talking
    about questions of value,
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    and we're talking about value,
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    we're talking about
    people's perceptions of worth,
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    which, been held subjectively,
    vary widely across populations,
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    culture, generation, ethnicity,
    any number of things,
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    we can think about these axes.
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    So, that means extremely,
    extremely difficult to assign
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    blanket values, generalized values
    to a given landscape,
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    because the services
    that they generate are valued
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    by different people in different places
    at different times.
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    So, that's the problem space
    that we want to play with here.
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    So, if we're thinking
    about this localization of the problem,
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    maybe a more important question,
    or a different way to phrase this,
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    is not to ask ourselves,
    or is not to try and say,
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    "The value of a service
    from forest is x,"
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    but rather to say,
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    "The value of this service from this forest
    is x to these people,"
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    and to get specific.
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    So, in that spirit,
    for the last few decades,
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    our researchers
    in ecosystems services area
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    have been traveling
    around the world
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    and surveying people
    about the values
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    they assign to the services of nature.
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    But, obviously these things
    are time consuming
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    and they are expensive.
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    So it's extremely difficult
    to get very much data here.
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    There are databases built up
    on these things,
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    specially in the last decade –
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    we've started to see some
    databases emerging that you can query
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    and try to get an idea
    of what the literature says
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    about some of these
    different kinds of values –
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    these, again, socio-economic values
    that we're playing with.
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    But, we don't think even
    remotely close to global coverage,
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    nowhere near.
    And at the same time,
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    especially in the last five to six years,
    we've seen a major upswell
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    in institutions of both
    the public and the private sector,
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    begging for global coverage
    of ecosystems service information
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    that they can use
    for their land management decisions,
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    and run scenarios against.
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    So, as we've already seen, we do have
    a lot of [due] a spatial data now.
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    That's kind of a new big fun thing
    in ecosystems services world –
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    we're not just limited to doing
    these one off surveys,
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    because we can actually do
    these secondary
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    meta-level evaluations of the data.
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    And what we get to do with this –
    we get all this geospatial data,
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    we put it together, and now
    what we can do in filling these gaps,
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    is we can actually try
    and create functions
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    that go in and study the structure
    in the data
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    of the landscapes and the people,
    the cities, the community centers,
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    the roads,
    all these kinds of structures,
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    and try to pull out
    with these signature functions,
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    where services are likely
    to be produced,
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    and where there's probably
    demand for them.
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    But, once you've applied
    these kinds of functions,
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    you still don't necessarily know –
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    if you know where
    the supply might be,
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    and you know where
    the demand might be
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    in any given landscape,
    once you've run these functions –
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    you still don't know
    if any service is being delivered.
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    So, what we have to do there –
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    is we take the landscapes,
    we project this information
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    about likelihood of supply and demand
    up on to a network,
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    and then we start flowing around,
    we simulate in our computers
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    across all this geospatial data.
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    We simulate the flow of,
    what we call "service carriers",
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    so things like bees
    for pollination services,
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    or carbon dioxide moving around,
    water moving for flooding
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    and wild-fire, water supply,
    water quality, any number of things.
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    You move it across the landscape
    and you try actually see –
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    given any particular
    topographic variables,
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    what is the service flow topology,
    any given area,
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    and thereby, you can finally answer
    the question:
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    Who receives services from where
    in any given landscape?
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    And that's extremely powerful,
    if you have that kind of information.
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    So, the kinds of things
    you can answer with that, now –
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    – that's not too bad –
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    So, for example, you can finally
    show maps like this,
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    where the green areas here are like
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    [repeated sound of] on the top,
    and over here you have a mountaineer,
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    and we're looking at scenic views –
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    So the impact of scenic views
    on different properties –
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    for the red, on the top there,
    is the city of Kent.
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    And so you can try and see:
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    Who receives services from where,
    and to what degree?
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    And the yellow stuff is visual blight –
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    You can actually look at the degree
    to which individual properties
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    are being impacted in terms
    of their service,
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    because of the way
    landscapes configure.
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    And you can run scenarios against this
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    to try and actually, really answer
    questions about
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    who wins and who looses
    on different management scenarios?
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    So you say,
    on a development scenario one,
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    this group of people gained something,
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    a different group of people gains
    a little bit more,
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    and this third group of people
    gets hurt.
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    Whereas under development scenario two,
    if I develop in this area,
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    well, it turns out that everybody
    gets hurt a little bit,
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    but if I develop in the third area,
    everyone benefits.
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    This is really becoming
    very interesting
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    in the US, in particular,
    the EPA has this entire research divisions
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    entirely turned around
    to ecosystem service research these days;
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    the US GS has a very
    big program in that;
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    the US GA has an office
    of ecosystem services and market –
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    just started off a few years ago
    under this administration,
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    and so on and so forth.
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    So, our government's all into it.
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    We're seeing a lot of
    ecosystem service work,
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    starting to find its way
    into public policy in the EU.
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    And I'm participating in some projects
    in Africa as well,
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    for the Gund Institute right now,
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    where this stuff is also
    coming into play.
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    So, we're hoping that taking this kind
    of technology
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    to finally connect people
    to the landscapes,
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    the actual landscapes,
    which generate their services,
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    will really help us to better inform,
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    better land management
    in the future for all of us.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Modelling Ecosystem Services under Uncertainty with ARIES: Gary Johnson at TEDxUVM
Description:

Gary Johnson models the spatial flow of services from ecosystems to people and changes to these services by different management scenarios. His research interests include ecosystem service modelling and simulation, network flow optimization and substitutability, hierarchical modelling, stochastic processes and uncertainty propagation, decision and game theory, functional programming, and machine learning.

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  • Hi,
    There is a mistake in the English subtitle between 6:13 and 6:16. The subtitle says,
    "[repeated sound of] on the top,
    and over here you have a mountaineer"

    The speaker is actually saying,
    "Puget Sound up on the top
    and over here, you have, uh, Mount Rainier"
    I used to live the American Northwest near Washington State, so I am 99% sure that is what he talking about based on the context. It would be great if you could correct this. Thank you.

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