Mehran Keshe Interview by Shahriar Mazandi 30th January 2013 Part 2

Then any speed is possible.

And this has been tested. "You've already...

from what I gather, created some craft

which has the ability to travel at very high speeds,

and I gather that you said that Mach 35 travel

within the earth's atmosphere even is conceivable now.

Is that correct?" The thing is, if you go over Mach 35, you fall out

of the atmosphere, due to the curvature and the speed of control.

Let me explain to you something

very simple. Speed is

the restriction of the state of mind. I don't know

if you can see this magnet? I can bring it very close... "Sure, we can see it."

This magnet is exactly how

spherical conditions are...

This is like Earth, this is like Sun.

We have a state of mind of the magnet as a bar...

This is a bar. If you bring our mentality

and understanding to the magnet as a sphere, like the universe is,

like the stars...We don't see any rectangular objects in the universe.

All the objects are spherical...Sun is spherical,

Atom is spherical...every shape.

The Earth is spherical. Due to the motion

of the magnetic fields, as they come out of one end,

they reduce the strength to the gravitational-magnetic field of

the center of the system, pulls the field in

so they go back into it, and absorb more, and they come back. If this

is say, the Moon, and I have a craft

let's say...If you can see this little magnet? "Sure."

If you can see when I come close for you to see,

you don't need to burn fuel to get attracted.

You see this is all it is. That is why the space agency has its space programs

changed. Up to now, we were used to burning fuels

to attain position and spend fuel

for speed. Now we can create the same situation.

If that was very hard for you to see, I'll show this with another magnet,

which is very easy for you to observe,

is you play with the magnets all the time, but we

never considered it. You create the magnetic field of the gravitational

position of the destination. There is no controlling the speed anymore.

This is what NASA has just recently come to understand;

that the game is over.

So, you can go at any speed to Mars, to Moon, as long as you can create

a system which can create two things:

gravity, and a magnetic field.

One of the things which has been the biggest problem with the Keshe Foundation,

and what we proposed is, up to now we never understood

the concept behind gravity. Now we understand.

And actually gravity is the one that comes from the English language...

gravitation, to gravitate, to go closer.

When you have two dissimilar points, they gravitate, one pulls the other

one in, and they gravitate.

When you have two dissimilar points, this is the magnetic field, this is

the space of protection. If you really find in a simple English language,

the concept why that gravity has become, up to now,

the Holy Grail of physics, has been that

due to our ancestors, we take everything as North and South.

but, if you re-defined polarity

as an exit and entry, not North and South,

why do we have two sides which are dissimmilar

attracting. One magnetic field comes out of one, has to go

to the other one. So, it's easy, its continuity.

If you have two dissimilar poles, let's say you have two exit poles, it's like having a traffic jam.

The fields, they both come out, they have to find a position that

the fields can move. So, they create that distance.

That accommodates their motion of the fields.

It doesn't matter which end you do, two entries the same, two exits the same.

Two exits create a slightly bigger gap

between them than the two entries, because the two entries

have already lost some of the magnetic field strength. This is

why we see higher temperature on the Northern section of

the earth, or on the North pole of the Sun.

Because when the fields come out of the entity, they are

much stronger, and by the time they interact with other fields within their environment

around the matter, by the time they move, they have lost some of their strength.

So now for the first time, we can even explain why the temperature on the North poles

are slightly higher than the South pole, because the

magnetic field coming out are stronger, slightly, than when they go in.

So, if we put this and this,

what I call Grandfather's Stories aside, in the science and physics

the way they are, we haven't discovered, in so many ways,

anything new. The people around

me continuosly telling me, you keep on saying this. Because all we've done, now we

understand. Gravity and the magnetic field,

is created by the interaction of the same fields.

So, gravity is the interaction of

entry and exit, and magnetic, what we call

atmosphere, is the repulsion, or the gap that fields need

to protect themselves. In a way, if now

we understand that the gravity and magnetic fields are of the interaction of two different fields,

upon each other, and now that we understand plasmas

are a creation of the dynamic

magnetic fields, we create two separate environments,

and in two separate environments we create gravitational-magnetic fields in the plasma

level, and then when they interact, we create the atmosphere

and create the gravitational field, and we know exactly what the Earth does or whether

or what the Sun does. So, there is nothing new, we live with it

but we never understood it.

Now for the first time we know that gravity is the interaction, the attraction of two opposite forms

in a plasma level, not in a matter level. "So basically,

with the old system, if I can just

quickly just paraphrase, one would need huge amounts of

fuel to carry a very small payload,

but with the new understanding, a very tiny amount of fuel can carry a much larger payload.

Is that correct?" ...Yes, look at the Earth!

Earth's central core is a very tiny amount of the mass which it is carrying.

Because now, the payload

is become irrelevant. Once you create a field,

which can cross the boundary of your system,

whatever is in that system is irrelevant how much it weighs and how big it is,

and how small it is. You can have in that environment

water, or you can put mercury, you can put lead,

or you can put fresh air! The whole thing is,

the mass becomes irrelevant in respect to its outside environment

What the field can hold and what the field can protect,

what we call atmosphere, within the structure

what is plasma, this is what it can carry, so

payloads become irrelevant, and this is one of the interesting things we see.

And in so many ways, we

restricted our only intelligence to fit our grandfather's

knowledge of physics. Now, we have freed the mind from

restrictions of what we have forced to accept.

And we see the things we do. We brought the knowledge into Space,

and we brought the knowledge into energy, and we have

brought the knowledge into seeds production, and into medicals,

and as where I am giving the presentations at the Keshe Foundation Center,

where we run them, with a license from the Belgium authorities, because they have seen how we operate

and they have seen all the work of our health

for the past four or five years. They offered us the organization who are responsible

to license to carry on further, and we've received invitations from all over the world.

Literally from all four corners of the world...people walk into this office,

every Monday. So, it's nothing new...

it's just understanding the process

the way the universe works. Not the way

our great grandfathers, our ancestors, when they came out of the

the caves, they looked at the birds, and

that was their ambition, to fly like the bird. We got that bird. We call it airplanes.

We stuck two jets on it, and we called it jet planes, and then

we had our Chinese friends who came up with fireworks, and that fireworks

in a bigger scale now is known as the propulsion game. It's the same thing,

as Chinese were induating Iran hundreds of years ago, using

the fireworks to break through the barriers. Now we understand

the process of the motion of the universe. And our system is a copy

of that. So we've gone in intelligence one level higher.

Then you understand, as you create stronger

magnetic field interactions, between

the different layers of plasma, or different parts of the reactor.

Then you match to the environment which you are travelling in.

So you can go by a factor of 2, 3 times the speed of light...

The beauty of this technology, as we see now,

is that because you create a same situation,

same condition as Earth, you can create a 1G,

the natural way. So,

in your environment of the reactor, within the space of the system,

you can create 1 G the way we have on Earth. On Earth

we have a center position which is 1G and we walk comfortably.

And this 1G can be created in any

system as long as it can control it's gravitational and magnetic field.

So, when this game of astronauts

getting into spaceship, going for training for years, and

being in weightlessness, it's over, it's finished, it's done with!

Because we do not get trained

to go to Heathrow Airport, to go to New York, to get on a jetliner.

Because gravitational-magnetic field of 1G

is created by pressure, in the cabin. Now,

we have learned to create 1G naturally, the way our planet does for ourselves.

So, from now on, all of you now on the tutorial, you are all astronauts!

The thing is, we always let ourselves doubt.

We let ourselves down. I did a presentation interview last December...

a month ago. and I put

a picture of the Sun. and I said, "At this moment,

let's consider...", and I have a picture in 3-dimensions of the Earth,

I say, "Look. This is the Sun, and this is the Earth.

Now we are in winter time, we are here, and we look across the Space, and

we say, "That is Space, and we would like to be in Space."

Take the Sun, another 6 months, you are here. So the Space was there, where you were 6 months ago.

So we've all been astronauts, we've all been in Space!

We ignore our own creation.

Now we've learned to do the same thing, and we replicate the same technology as the Universe.

And the one thing is, we are just at the beginning

of this ladder, and this ladder has a thousand

steps to get to the end of it, and as I always say,

we are just crawling to get our hands on the first, ah,

first battle, In the scientists,

to stop the dogma of what they are to talk about, to protect

the PHD's of professorships, and work

the way we are working, with the time of scientists in a very rapid way, and you will see

what is coming out. I, as you know, we are well known

in what and which government is collaborating.

"How many countries now have you given your USB stick,

as you say?" At the moment,

there are fifteen, but there is a plan through the governments

who have received it, within the next two months there will be

at least double that, but the fifteen nations which have received it,

covers 65% of the world's populations.

"Wow!" As you know,

on the 21st of April last year,

we had the first ambassadorial presentation, here

in our center, where I am talking to you from.

And a number of ambassadors came, and after the 21st,

I received a direct decree by his excellency President Obama

against my Foundation, for what we showed to the ambassador, this technology is going to do.

It was, I wrote an open letter, email, on my Forum,

and since the President of the United States made a damning order

for scientists. And as you know, it's written up

on our Forum, on the 6th of November,

on American election day, after 3:45 when the

American presidential office knew they had won the election, they were

about to win, we received the request from American Government ambassador

that they would like to meet and have the access to the technology, on the USB key.

And we met with them on the 15th of December by the request of

the American government, and we handed over the technology

to the American Government, and we know it was immediately transferred

to NASA for further analysis. But,

something very interesting...NASA, I have communication,

hard copied documents, we have been negotiating with NASA since

1985.

NASA always told me, the boys at the top aways told me,

"The problem we have, Mehran, is, how are we going to write off

7000 jobs in the Propulsion Lab?"

This is the problem. Now the problem is, the technology is available to

a few nations, and as you know, a few scientists are duplicating through the patents.

So, the cat is out of the bag, we are out.

It doesn't come by nations, as you know certain nations

have already shown the power of the technology.

And we have shown this operation through health here. People who come here paralyzed,

for 5, 10 years in a wheelchair. If you came

to the presentation of the opening day of the Foundation,

people who have been in a wheelchair for 5 years with MSI, now they walk.

Now they can help themselves, and they start living a normal life.

So, it's not just...

We are not just an energy organization.

Keshe Foundation is a Space Ship Program organization.

"Space Program" is with rocket propulsion and weightlessness.

"Space Ship Program" is a magnetic-gravitational system, with

full control of gravity, and the normal life as we live on Earth.

So, as a Space Ship Program organization,

like NASA, when you put people into Space,

they are worse than babies, so we have to look after their food, their health,

their energy and everything else. So, like any other

space ship program, that's what we do. But, we have enough confidence

that we put our findings in the open, and our people

to come from all over to test our medical systems.

And if our system doesn't work, it doesn't mean it is wrong, it means we haven't found

a gravitational-magnetic field which has created that disease. So,

in Space, when I have a new disease, I don't need to come back all the way

to the Pharmaceuticals, "Can you find out what it is?"...For ten thousand,

God knows, volunteers to do the clinical trial? You find the

gravitational-magnetic field strength of the disease, and you find out what it has done

to the body and you reverse it. That's all we do here. It's a new way of thinking.

A new way of working. And this adds assets to Pharmaceuticals.

If the Pharmaceuticals realize what we have developed,

they will jump on it like mad, because we got used to

taking tablets, we got used to taking injections, this is only 50 - 60 years old.

Now Pharmaceuticals understand the gravitational-magnetic

fields of the plasma of the disease, the way we do, the way

we operate, and then you make a system to

to reverse it, or to allow the body

to reverse itself, according to the strength. So, in a way,

the new health technology is setting a self-care program,

that is given to the system which is in the hospital, or a chair in the house,

we don't have a hospital, we allow patients to treat themselves at home.

So, you sell software, data according to the gravitational-magnetic fields,

you make more money, you sell more data, you sell more,

what do you call it?...Systems. So, Pharmaceuticals make more money

out of it, if they have understood what they are doing.

By the way, Imperial College has a beautiful biochemistry lab; I spent a lot of time

with my friends, my house flatmates,

which pursued their PHD, I don't know if you still have that rolling

what do you call it, lift, which used to be in the building. You had to jump in.

Because it goes back quite a few years, I don't know if that lift is still is in the building.

"Yup, I've heard about...

You said that people were out of wheelchairs, and also people with MS,

and someone who remembered a language.

Do you have any, sort of, evidence of that? You've had a lot of opposition..."

It's all videotaped. It's all on the videos on our website...

Nobody has ever erased videos. You know, you go on my website, you see

a guy who hasn't walked for twenty years, and he does bicycling,

And strange enough, the father of this gentleman,

is the accountant of the Foundation now, and somebody called and said,

"Oh, he was a very good actor, where did you get him from?"

Doesn't matter...we've passed the point of...you know we put the MS...

the people who come, you see the woman who has been paralyzed with the brain surgery,

who can walk, who has been paralyzed in bed, nobody puts

their research videos on the internet, or in public.

We are so confident, and we see people who come to us. And bookings

for our health section, into the end

of the year, and we can take more, it's just we don't have time.

So, people who have been there, and most of the people

we get on our health, come from referral from doctors around the world.

Who, I don't even know them, they say, "Our doctor has sent us here.

And you are our only hope." And they walk back, we have files,

from MS, we have cases with this one,

we have found solutions to epilepsy, through the same process,

We have without a doubt, have finished,

with fibromyalgia. Parkinson's

still has different characteristics we have to understand. MS we

have to understand more of. We

are running about 100 different fields of research at the moment,

in different diseases. "You've reversed the effects of Cheomotherapy?"

We don't reverse Chemotherapy. Chemotherapy... (Continued in Part 3)